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CaptainKicker

07-09-2009, 04:15 AM

Hi there,

First.. i live in Denmark, so there are much differences, between the outlet power, which is 220v in Denmark, and 110 in the US. But i've bought a converter, that works perfect.

So, I've bought a US NES, which works great. I can connect it to my TV, with no problems..

BUT, my Genesis on the other hand... well, it aint working, because i cant connect it to my TV. The antenna is american and that really dont fit in a danish TV.

And the Genesis does'nt have thoose 3 .. uhm... i dont know what you call it on english.. but thoose 3 wires that goes to the TV.. red, yellow and white.

I bought this piece of shit; http://www.consolesandgadgets.co.uk/catalog/video-system-converter-ntsc-p-2280.html

But that dont work for the old consoles.

So my question is, where can i find a converter that works? I dont care if its from ebay, a store, a private person or even jesus. I just want to play Genesis, since i've bought for over 400 dollars of stuffs.

Kindest regards

Mike

breedseeds

07-09-2009, 05:05 AM

Hey fellow dane :)

is it a model 1 or 2 genesis, the model 1 has a volume knob, the model 2 dont. if iits model 1 u just need this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Megadrive-1-Master-System-1-Neo-Geo-TV-lead-AV-cable_W0QQitemZ160344270923QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_V intageComputing_RL?hash=item255543684b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1687|293%3A1| 294%3A50

hope it helps you out..

if not i might have a RF switch u can use

CaptainKicker

07-09-2009, 05:13 AM

I actually have both, but i prefer the modol 1 with the volume button

I'll buy it and hope for the best, that it works! :-)

TheDomesticInstitution

07-09-2009, 06:42 AM

Well if you're US NES works on your TV, it must mean that you have a multisystem TV. Good. I also assume that you are running the yellow and red RCA type cables from the side of your NES, into the back of your TV.

Now since you have an American Model 1 Genesis, you'll need a set of RCA cables that you plug into that strange round connector on the back of your Genesis.

Here is what the connector looks like on the back of your Genesis

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/DIN-8_Diagram.svg/455px-DIN-8_Diagram.svg.png

Here is the type of cable you'll need.

http://www.estarland.com/product14497.html

If you do a search for Genesis Model 1 AV cable, you'll be able to find a retailer that ships to you. They are very common and ebay has a ton of them. This cable is mono though, much like the way you have your NES hooked up. They make a stereo version of this cable, that has yellow, red, and white plugs- but it's more expensive and harder to find. Hope this helps you out.

AB Positive

07-09-2009, 07:38 AM

Model 2 also has AV (red/yellow/white) cables available - I believe they're a bit easier to find but it shouldn't be too hard to find either system's cable.

Now - if you find something that can easily convert PAL to NTSC for us north american types let us know. I really want a ZX Spectrum but getting it to work here is another story all together. :)

breedseeds

07-09-2009, 07:50 AM

gokugohandave

07-09-2009, 10:08 AM

CaptainKicker: They make ntsc to pal converters, you just need an av cable to use it with like TheDomesticInstitution mentioned.
AB Positive: you can pretty much to get anything to work on anything, you just have to do your homework on adapter types and signal converters for video and power.

SamuraiSmurfette

07-09-2009, 09:26 PM

I connect PAL systems to my computer and play them on my monitor. With a capture card, you can manual set the signal standard/refresh rate/etc. Works like a charm.

ooXxXoo

07-09-2009, 09:36 PM

@Captainkicker: is you have already tried all, including the Genesis AV cables + NTSC to PAL converter and didn't work....Does your tv supports scart/RGB?....or in any other case, I can convert any Sega NTSC system to PAL or any PAL-I, PAL-N, PAL-M Sega system to NTSC for that matter, just let me know..
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CaptainKicker

07-10-2009, 05:17 AM

TheDomesticInstitution

07-10-2009, 05:48 AM

Well i just bought this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Megadrive-1-Master-System-1-Neo-Geo-TV-lead-AV-cable_W0QQitemZ160344270923QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_V intageComputing_RL?hash=item255543684b&_trksid=p32 86.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A168 7|293%3A1|294%3A50

Should'nt it work too?

That's the one. It'll work with your Genesis model 1.

@Captainkicker: is you have already tried all, including the Genesis AV cables + NTSC to PAL converter and didn't work....Does your tv supports scart/RGB?....or in any other case, I can convert any Sega NTSC system to PAL or any PAL-I, PAL-N, PAL-M Sega system to NTSC for that matter, just let me know..
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If you read his very first post you'll see he has a standard US NES connected to his current TV. He just needs an AV cable for his Genesis, because his television doesn't have a coax connector. He implies that his current TV is multisystem. No need to complicate his problem by trying to sell him a modded console.

ooXxXoo

07-10-2009, 04:29 PM

That's the one. It'll work with your Genesis model 1.

If you read his very first post you'll see he has a standard US NES connected to his current TV. He just needs an AV cable for his Genesis, because his television doesn't have a coax connector. He implies that his current TV is multisystem. No need to complicate his problem by trying to sell him a modded console.

Don't really know what you are trying to say, but not all of the newer tv's are multisystem...And no coax?...Well, he could always try it using a VCR (Genesis coax to VCR antenna in and from there, VCR AV outputs to tv).... Besides, the Genesis video signal can be picky due to its low native resolution specially with newer HDTV's..He even bought what appears to be a (Chinese made) NTSC to PAL converter, I have seen those, and they aren't always reliable...Again, I wasn't trying to sell him a modded system, but instead mod his current NTSC Genesis to PAL so it can be used without any converters...This includes changing the CTS frequencies and the video encoding, Something that you probably don't have a clue in how to do...
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TheDomesticInstitution

07-10-2009, 05:24 PM

Don't really know what you are trying to say, but not all of the newer tv's are multisystem...And no coax?...Well, he could always try it using a VCR (Genesis coax to VCR antenna in and from there, VCR AV outputs to tv).... Besides, the Genesis video signal can be picky due to its low native resolution specially with newer HDTV's..He even bought what appears to be a (Chinese made) NTSC to PAL converter, I have seen those, and they aren't always reliable...Again, I wasn't trying to sell him a modded system, but instead mod his current NTSC Genesis to PAL so it can be used without any converters...This includes changing the CTS frequencies and the video encoding, Something that you probably don't have a clue in how to do...
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What I do know how to do, is read. Let's look again at his post below, and I'll take on the same snide tone you gave me with your last line there.

Hi there,

First.. i live in Denmark, so there are much differences, between the outlet power, which is 220v in Denmark, and 110 in the US. But i've bought a converter, that works perfect.

Ok, he lives in Denmark and has bought a voltage converter for his games. Also Denmark is is Europe. With him so far?

So, I've bought a US NES, which works great. I can connect it to my TV, with no problems..

He has a US NES. A lot of Europeans own TV's with built in PAL/SECAM/NTSC converters so they can use equipment from a variety of places. While the gentleman doesn't say if it's or modded or not, he says he can connect it to his TV with "no problems." Also it seems to "work great."

BUT, my Genesis on the other hand... well, it aint working, because i cant connect it to my TV. The antenna is american and that really dont fit in a danish TV.

The "antenna is American" is the key group of words here, and it helps identify why he can't hook up his Genesis. When he is saying "antenna" he's most likely referring to the 75ohm screw on F-connector, common to most US NTSC televisions since cable's been in our homes. Apparently Danish TV's don't use this connector. Who knew?

And the Genesis does'nt have thoose 3 .. uhm... i dont know what you call it on english.. but thoose 3 wires that goes to the TV.. red, yellow and white.

These must be RCA-type connector cables. And while I'm no electronic genius like yourself, I do know that the yellow carries the picture signal and the red and white carry each a channel audio.

I bought this piece of shit; http://www.consolesandgadgets.co.uk/catalog/video-system-converter-ntsc-p-2280.html

But that dont work for the old consoles.

This gadget doesn't work because his console doesn't have RCA cables! Just like he said above! It's a cool picture, go ahead and click on it. Also he warns that it's a piece of shit, so don't buy one yourself, for Christ's sake.

So my question is, where can i find a converter that works? I dont care if its from ebay, a store, a private person or even jesus. I just want to play Genesis, since i've bought for over 400 dollars of stuffs.

Kindest regards

Mike

Now he says converter, so I admit I'll take a little liberty here, and assume since the "converter" above didn't work, he doesn't actually need a converter. But instead, just a set of plain old fucking Genesis AV cables.

And if you've kept up, he went ahead and ordered the cable, because what I said (and others did) seemed to make sense to him as a solution to his problem. So when he receives it, I hope he comes here and lets it know it worked, so you can be 100% sure his problem was properly addressed by those who have "no clue."

It doesn't really matter if you'd mod his system versus sending him a modded one, it'll still cost him way more than the cable (with shipping). And I'm fairly confident I've addressed his problem.

Spazmonkey

07-11-2009, 01:50 AM

Just get scart cables for the model one. They work fine, even in 60hz NTSC.

CaptainKicker

07-17-2009, 03:24 AM

TheDomesticInstitution

07-17-2009, 05:29 AM

Make sure you are using the correct sega model 1 power supply. The supply should be a Sega branded model 1602, which should be stamped on the power supply. If you are using any other power supply this may damage your Sega Model 1. Also never use the NES power supply for the Genesis because it will fry it. Also check that the yellow red and white plugs are attached to the correct plugs on your television. If you have an audio and video signal crossed it may cause the buzzing sound you are hearing.

Natural_High

07-17-2009, 09:12 AM

I wasn't the only one having problems with the power supply, which was causing a buzzing sound and some waves going down on the image (but i'm using an RF adapter and this probably just happens in this case). I currently use a generic power adapter (1000mA) set to 9V center negative, on my model 1. Never had any problems.

I'm wondering if he could plug a european power adapter, correctly set, into his US model 1 console. There's no problem at all, or is there?

TheDomesticInstitution

07-17-2009, 01:20 PM

I can't answer that question correctly, because I'm not that familiar with non-US power sources. Maybe someone else overseas could help with that one?

thunderkid

07-17-2009, 01:37 PM

Okay, i received it today, plugged it in, and yes... it still does'nt work.

OK, i have 2 SEGA Genesis Model one i guess.. plugged it in the first one + i plugged in the power, which comes from an adapter (220v->110v).. The first one, made a high buzzing sounds and went out. Cant turn it on now. The second one just keep making a high buzzing sound, and no picture.

What am i doing wrong?

Try reversing the leads. Plug the white lead into the yellow input on your TV. I think the Neo Geo cables have these pinouts reversed. You will get a buzzing sound if you plug the video lead into the audio port on your TV which is why I believe that the leads on your cable are reversed.