Does Capcom have a hate mail address?

[kupomogli]

I just got to C. Vipers third hard trial and it's obvious that this trial is going to be impossible without a fight stick. I just want to email them how bullshit of a company they've turned into and that they should pay for the $100+ fight stick since they feel the need to put an impossible to do combo without it.

*edit*

I meant email address. I also got to C. Vipers third hard trial around three hours ago, and yeah, that's how long I've been attempting it using a PS3 controller.

[Kid Fenris]

They do indeed. The address is whinypointlesscomplaints@capcom.com.

[unwinddesign]

The real question is why anyone would play the hard trials in SFIV without an arcade stick.

[G-Boobie]

Digital Aspergers Syndrome.

[ryborg]

Play Capcom's Soccer Shootout (greatest game ever) for a while and you'll never have negative thoughts about Capcom again.

[heybtbm]

Digital Aspergers Syndrome.

...lol.

[Kid Ice]

Next time they should just bundle the stick with the game, charge $200 and call it a day.

I agree that it's impossible to play well with the PS3 pad. Not Capcom's fault IMO.

It's also well known that to play at a superior level you need to play with a stick. And that doesn't just apply to SFIV.

[Clownzilla]

Try playing Killer Instinct 2 with the N64 pad and SF3 won't seem as bad.

[XYXZYZ]

Why is it impossible to do without a joystick?

[kupomogli]

Because the last part of the combo you have to press down to duck while rolling forward in a fireball motion doing an LP and then another down forward to up motion within a split second and pressing PPP once you move to up. Basically you'll pull off the Ultra before she does the high jump but it'll think you did the high jump.

Something that you'll never use and also something you'll never need to use. Why the fuck even have high jump there except to frusturate people as it does nothing to that specific combo? There are other combos that high jump would be useful if you're good enough to pull it off, but the way they have it in this combo it's pretty much useless and they just want you to pull it off at the same time as using the Ultra.

I've currently gotten all the other trials for over half the other characters finished and from what Nirvana said, I already did alot of the harder ones except for C. Viper and Gen.

And besides, yes you "can" play a game like SF4 at a competitive level. However, even though I'm fairly good, I've never been interested at playing it at a competitive level. Bullshit trials like this are just Capcoms way of getting people who want to get the trophy to spend the $150 on their joystick. The majority of people aren't going to even attempt at a competitive level so something like this shouldn't even be in the fucking game. Even with a fight pad this one seems impossible. I actually tried setting my PS3 controller on a table and then doing the combo by using the analog stick like a joystick which ended up failing.

It's not just SF4 though. That's the main thing though.

*edit*

Anyone have a PS3 joystick I can use to complete these trials easier?

[exit]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people who were able to do the trial with a PS3/360 controller, so there's really no need to get all pissy over not being able to do a move. Now Green Eye in Lost Planet is something to bitch about, quite possibly one of the most frustrating boss fight I have ever experienced in a game, I've yet to be able to kill him.

[Snapple]

I don't know anyone who has the platinum in SF4, mostly because of those stupid trials. Anyone would get frustrated.

[kupomogli]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people who were able to do the trial with a PS3/360 controller

I didn't know Jesus Christ was still on earth.

But no. I'm sure there may be people who completed it with a PS360 controller. Plenty though? No.

[Kid Ice]

Anyone have a PS3 joystick I can use to complete these trials easier?

I bought a Logitech PS3 controller for $15 that has a much better d-pad than the DS3/6A. I was able to play through the game on normal without losing a round for the first time.

I stopped using it because a couple weeks later I lucked into a tourney stick. Well worth the investment IMO (both controllers).

[kupomogli]

Not to be rude, but that really doesn't say much. I beat the game on Very Hard without dying the first time I played arcade mode on a friends 360 before I had the game. That's with the piece of crap 360 controller.

It's not that the PS3 controller is bad as I'd prefer that when playing as I usually only play with a character like Ryu or Sagat which you'll NEVER have to do that even if you could happen to use their fifth hard trials regularly. It's just that attacks like C. Vipers are near impossible unless you have godlike dexterity and mental dexterity when using a controller due to limitations on how the controller is setup in comparison to a fight stick.

Everyone should go finish C. Vipers second hard trial if you haven't and you'll see what I'm talking about when you attempt the third(the second hard trial is hard enough though so that's if everyone can actually finish it.) Hitting up after the LP will do the High Jump. You either have to hit DF DFU with PPP the moment you hit up or DFU DF PPP. The DFU DF PPP is actually easier due to the fact that you know you're going to pull the high jump off, just that the high jump is set off the instant you hit up so you need a joystick to be able to hit df PPP as soon after.

[onReload]

These trials don't exist for Capcom to make money - no other SF game has even had these kind of challenges/tutorials. It clearly took effort and research to come up with them.

Yes, they are hard with a pad. I'm a pad player, I was never really an arcade kid, but have always wanted to be as fighting games were designed for a stick - hell, take a look at Guile and Vega's super inputs.

You don't need to buy a stick, and if you're not used to using one, you're only going to have more trouble; I have trouble doing basic fighting game motions on one.

In short, they didn't make these so that you would buy a stick, but instead, to show the options their game engine allows. Other Street Fighter ports don't have these additions.

It's really in-depth stuff for a fighting game that's supposed to be marketed for beginners and casual users, which is one thing I find odd about SFIV, but at least it's in there for you. It's not like Prototype or a lot of modern games that say "Runs best on [sponsored hardware]"; if you can do it on pad, then bravo; but Capcom isn't telling you to go buy a stick.

I just finished some hard trials with pad last night. I have friends who have done hard trials using the X360's analog stick. It's possible, and stick might not be the answer to all your problems, especially if you're this quick to get frustrated. When a challenge is really getting me worked up, I shut off the game and play something else.

Not to mention, these challenges are not vital to the game. They're for personal achievement, or colors/taunts. Again, what other Street Fighter game has 10 colors and multiple taunts and winning poses?

As a final note, C. Viper's high jump is useful all over the place, and not just in combos. Example: You can do her Seismic Hammer, have it be blocked, then jump cancel it for safety. The added benefit is that if the move hits, you'll be in prime position to do an air followup.

Yes, the trials are hard.

[Kid Ice]

Not to be rude, but that really doesn't say much.

I'm not trying to "say much". Frankly I have better things to brag about than my performance in a video game. The point was that I played better using the controller(s) which in turn I am recommending to you.

The answer to your original query, given you would apparently rather pursue this route than the logical solution every other decent player arrived at 4 months ago....

CAPCOM ENTERTAINMENT INC.
800 Concar Drive, Suite 300
San Mateo, CA 94402-2649

[Iron Draggon]

what I wanna know is, will a 360 stick work on a PC the same way a 360 pad works on a PC? or does somebody make a high quality 6 button stick for PC?

[ProgrammingAce]

So what you're saying is that the "Hard Trials" are hard? I'm not sure i see the issue here.

[exit]

I didn't know Jesus Christ was still on earth.

I'm sure even Jesus would tell you to stop acting like a little baby. Just because you can't do something doesn't mean it isn't possible, I'm sure you aren't the only one to have problems with this, but I'm damn sure there are plenty of other people who have done it. I highly doubt that this was an evil scheme by Capcom to get everyone's money, so just man up already.

[chicnstu]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people who were able to do the trial with a PS3/360 controller, so there's really no need to get all pissy over not being able to do a move. Now Green Eye in Lost Planet is something to bitch about, quite possibly one of the most frustrating boss fight I have ever experienced in a game, I've yet to be able to kill him.

It's actually pretty easy. Start out by getting the T-Eng in the barrels on the middle section, grab the grenade launcher, rush over to the other ledge with T-Eng barrels and absorb that. Then wait for Green Eye's weakness bubbles on his sides to be in view and stay around the edges (and middle) of the arena (while dodging it's attacks) so you can pop those. After those are taken care of, get down from the ledges and boost dash to stay directly in front of Green Eye while blasting his face bubbles with the Grenade Launcher. Grab as much of the T-Eng that comes out of the monster as you can and you should be fine.

[scooterb23]

I guess now we know why Nintendo came up with that Autoplay feature for games... they don't want angry e-mails from upset gamers.

[SegaAges]

Green Eye is not bad in Lost Planet.

As for controller vs joystick, I dominate with a controller. Maybe I missed something, but can't you use the joystick on the pad?

I thought u could.

[Vinnysdad]

So many "elite" gamers talking down to this guy who only seemed to be venting and didnt really come across as serious.

[Ed Oscuro]

what I wanna know is, will a 360 stick work on a PC the same way a 360 pad works on a PC? or does somebody make a high quality 6 button stick for PC?
Yes to both (PS3 or 360 compatible too, on the second, see Hori Real Arcade Pro series sticks).

[Kid Ice]

So many "elite" gamers talking down to this guy who only seemed to be venting and didnt really come across as serious.

Who couldn't vent in the already existing SFIV thread because....????

[SegaAges]

Yeah, it sounds like the vent was because, obviously, the stage was difficult.

And then because the person is better with a joystick, the rant was also against using the d-pad.

What I am still confused about, is if the d-pad is difficult to use, why not use the joystick on the controller?

[BHvrd]

Who couldn't vent in the already existing SFIV thread because....????

He was too busy riding Falkor?

http://www.watcherswatch.com/pics/never_ending_story.jpg

[Kid Ice]

He was too busy riding Falkor?

http://www.watcherswatch.com/pics/never_ending_story.jpg

But logically, if he was so busy, theoretically it would have been easier to post in the existing thread.

[SegaAges]

He was too busy riding Falkor?

http://www.watcherswatch.com/pics/never_ending_story.jpg

Damnit, who the hell keeps leaking pictures of my adventures with Falkor?!?

[G-Boobie]

Damnit, who the hell keeps leaking pictures of my adventures with Falkor?!?

Button up your shirt, S.A. Protect that magical bling.

[kupomogli]

Resident Evil 5 makes you pay for additional modes like versus and Mercenary that came standard with RE4 and should have came standard as RE5. That's another thing I'll bitch about if I ever email or mail them. Also the fact that they already made RE4, why make another RE with shitty wannabe first person controls that don't even do it remotely as good.

If you're going to be a survival horror, then that's fine. If you're going to be a blow shit up first person shooter game, then make the damn game like Left 4 Dead or something where you actually have "control."

Also. Outbreak 3, Capcom. No load times either. I don't feel like waiting 20 seconds a room again.

[onReload]

So many "elite" gamers talking down to this guy who only seemed to be venting and didnt really come across as serious.

If it were just the originating post, it might just be venting, but when he keeps arguing the point...it sounds more like he really believes it.

And nobody is being elite here, just realistic.

[Emuaust]

Yeah, I cant do it, but if we are going to complain about shit like this, Lets ring up activision and complain, Ive been trying to beat expert mode on GH3 with a controller and boy is it fucking impossible, activision should pay to give me a guitar so I can play this bullshit properly!

[G-Boobie]

I don't mean to be an ass, here, but I'm getting tired of your constant SF4 foolishness.

Every single one of your posts in the Street Fighter 4 thread, (minus three or four where Ubersaurus, myself and Nirvana got involved), are nothing but whining, bitching, and moaning. You contribute nothing of value to the conversation, fail to adequately defend your positions, and overall make yourself look like a complete GameFAQs tool. And now, it's spilled over into an entirely different thread. Awesome.

I like you Kupo, but for the love of God, think before you post. this is getting older than rick rolls and lolwuts.

[Nirvana]

http://profile.mygamercard.net/d/Cannon%20Spook

Kupo knows this already, but I'm 1000/1000 in Street Fighter IV. And I did it with a fightpad.

Anyway Kupo, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2NPTv0V97A&feature=related

The high jump is pretty much a cancel. Get that high jump motion in right as you do that light punch, then Burst Time immediately after that.

[cityside75]

The title of this thread makes me laugh every time I see it.

[ScourDX]

If you think D-pad is hard, maybe you should try the keyboard.

[Nirvana]

If you think D-pad is hard, maybe you should try the keyboard.

Man, screw that o_O I would just plug in my PS3 TE stick into the USB slot. I can't believe people actually play with the keyboard though >_>

[ScourDX]

Man, screw that o_O I would just plug in my PS3 TE stick into the USB slot. I can't believe people actually play with the keyboard though >_>

I did and I ain't complaining. :D

[Nirvana]

Can you do the hard trials with the keyboard? That'd make a sick youtube video for idiots like me to watch >_>

[slip81]

I beat the whole game on mega expert with a pair of scissors, two thumb tacks and a rubber band. beat that bitches.

[scooterb23]

I beat the whole game on mega expert with a pair of scissors, two thumb tacks and a rubber band. beat that bitches.

Two thumb tacks? Amateur.

[SegaAges]

I beat the whole game on mega expert with a pair of scissors, two thumb tacks and a rubber band. beat that bitches.

So edward scissorhands and McGuyver had a kid, and he is badass at Street Fighter 4. Nice.

Also, I kept my shirt unbuttoned during my adventures with falkor to show off "the goods" to the ladies.

[ScourDX]

Can you do the hard trials with the keyboard? That'd make a sick youtube video for idiots like me to watch >_>

Well I wish I was that good hard trial, but I am only mediocre. One of my friend already pass 2 survivor mode on hard difficulty and had hard time with 3rd. He is just using only keyboard. I'll ask him if he can record it. It is possible to win with keyboard, but requires lots of patience & practice.

[Nirvana]

Heh heh. That's insane. I can't imagine having a fast-paced match on a keyboard.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Heh heh. That's insane. I can't imagine having a fast-paced match on a keyboard.

Those people who still use Mugen would like to have a word with you.

[Kroogah]

Those people who still use Mugen would like to have a word with you.

Unfortunately he won't be able to understand them unless he speaks Portuguese.

[Nirvana]

Unfortunately he won't be able to understand them unless he speaks Portuguese.

I was going to make a similar comment XD

[kupomogli]

I mailed them my broken copy of SF4 with that letter. They mailed me a new copy of SF4.

[rbudrick]

Hey guys, what's the hate mail address for Konami? This game Track & Filed is bullshit! They make you buy an NES Advantage controller just for the rapid fire!

-Rob

[Overbite]

Man why the hell do I need to buy a PS3/360 to play SF4? Just another way to get money from us I bought the damn game that should be enough.

[exit]

I mailed them my broken copy of SF4 with that letter. They mailed me a new copy of SF4.

Pics or it didn't happen!

[kupomogli]

It didn't.

I just wanted to see if anyone believed that I actually broke it and really did send it to them.

[Therealqtip]

What I am still confused about, is if the d-pad is difficult to use, why not use the joystick on the controller?

The dpad as shitty as it is, it's better then the analog stick.

[8-bitNesMan]

The dpad as shitty as it is, it's better then the analog stick.

DISAGREE! I'm way better with the joystick on the 360 controller than I am with that horrid excuse for a D-pad...

[kupomogli]

DISAGREE! I'm way better with the joystick on the 360 controller than I am with that horrid excuse for a D-pad...

Well. It's a known fact that the digital buttons on the 360 blow. Not as bad as the DS Lite, but stll pretty bad.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Kupo, is nothing ever right in your little corner of the world? Shit's mostly fine over here, usually... Maybe it's not where you are, but... Naw, that makes too much sense. You wouldn't relate.

Capcom, Nintendo and Raidou hate you too! There, balance restored...

[JohnnyBlaze]

Yeah, I'm pissed at Capcom too. I bought Bionic Commando Rearmed for the PC and no matter how much I updated my drivers and all that, THE DAMN THING STILL MOVES SLOW! The menus move fine but when actually playing, it's like the character is underwater. Mind you, this is even on a NEW laptop with Core 2 Duo, 4GB Memory, and ATI Radeon HD 256MB. To give you an idea, BIOSHOCK works without a hitch and Street Fighter IV after I set the frame rate to fixed, but a budget game won't work. DAMN YOU CAPCOM!

[kupomogli]

Capcom, Nintendo and Raidou hate you too! There, balance restored...

What about NIS? They haven't made a single good game aside from Prinny: Can I Really Be the Hero.

[Daria]

Kupo: You know you didn't seem like so much of a troll when you first joined the site. Did you feel as though you just weren't getting the attention you deserved? Are you acting out for attention? Do you just need a shoulder to cry on?

[kupomogli]

I wouldn't say I'm trolling. Because I sometimes bash certain games and then I bring this topic up. Last time I've actually thrown a bash in was on the SF4 thread and before that it was about Disgaea. The Disgaea bash was also during contributing to the topic at hand.

Atleast 99.8% of my posts are contributing to the topic without bashing it even on this thread which I'm more or less posting about how crappy of a company Capcom has become lately.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Look man, pull your act together... It's alright to not like something, but you don't have to be such a little bitch about it. It's annoying and it detracts from the quality of discussion and relative peace that many of us around here really value about these boards. If you got a gripe, spit it out and skip the hysterics and BS. If you don't present your ideas/reasons in a rational fashion and with a little more thought than "___ sucks!" then no one is going to take you seriously. Put your best foot forward, or at least, make an attempt.

/intervention

I just got Prinny... Only thing I don't like about it is the DLC packages. The number of them, what they each contain and how much they cost for basic modular expansions to a $40 handheld game.