Good games that are frustratingly difficult. [Archive]

Kevincal

07-26-2009, 04:13 PM

There are some games I love on one hand, but hate on another.

I love the original Road Rash on the Genesis, but I've never beaten it. It starts getting extremely difficult in the 4th level and starts pissing me off.

Resident Evil was great but I never actually beat it. Seemed to get really hard toward the end.

Same thing with RE: Code Veronica. I got stuck in the airship with the big ugly monster and saved with little life. Basically ruined the game.

Tempest 2000 is AWESOME but I've never beaten it without using a level skip cheat for several NASTY levels that are near impossible

Alien vs Predator is great fun but the Marine and Alien scenarios are extremely difficult. The Alien scenario really isn't that fun. The Marine is but damn, a lot of walking around mazes. Need a lot of patience for the game and even then, I'v never really come close to beating it without cheating.

final Fantasy X - Great game but I got owned toward the end over and over and gave up on beating it.

Grand Theft Auto 3 and Vice City - Fun games but they are so massive. Never beat either.

Zelda 1 NES, Link to the past, Ocarina and Majora's. All fun games, but never beat any of them. Just such massive games with so many puzzles. I get toward the end and it gets to the point where I'm more annoyed than having fun.

Rayman - great game but too darn difficult in later stages

Banjo Kazooie - great game but too massive

Cybermorph, actually is a good game but is hard and massive. I finally beat it after playing it off and on for over 10 years...

Then of course there are a ton of crappy games that are insanely hard and aren't fun at all. The games I listed are fun, but really hard to beat imo.

j1e

07-26-2009, 04:30 PM

Ninja Gaiden III comes to my mind. Enjoyed the hell out of it but never could beat it. I beat the first two, though.

Therealqtip

07-26-2009, 04:36 PM

Ocarina of Time took 8 years to beat, with a damn strategy guide book. The water temple and the shadow temple both got me stuck. But it was probably cause I was 7 or so when I was in the shadow temple and honestly...I was stuck on one of the dumbest places ever. I should l2shadowlense moar.

That was also my ONLY zelda game outta like 30 I have that I beat.

BetaWolf47

07-26-2009, 04:40 PM

LOL, only Zelda games I ever beat were Twilight Princess, Wind Waker, and Ocarina of Time. I always used to use Gameshark and goof off in my games when I was young. Now I take them quite seriously... on Ganon's Castle on LttP.

Besides that, I'd say the Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog games. Either Sonic the Hedgehog 3 is ridiculously difficult, or I suck at Sonic games.

MissingNo_1231

07-26-2009, 05:01 PM

I think I might not be very good at video games, cause there are a lot of games I love, but that I just cannot beat.

Twisted Metal for example is very hard for me. But then again I only started playing it recently.

Abadox.

Strato Fighter or something like that. I have it on a Techmo Anthology game for Xbox.

Maybe it's just cause I don't play a lot of these very seriously. It's just something to kill time.

TurboGenesis

07-26-2009, 05:26 PM

Some games I love, but have not conquered…

Battle Garegga (Saturn/Arcade)- Love this game… everything about it is amazing and I am always improving, but I doubt I will ever complete this game… There is so much depth to this game and multiple characters make for interesting.

Parasol Stars (TG-16)- The best in the Bubble Bobble series. So many secrets, bonuses, and scoring tricks… I don't mind if I never finish it… every play is as good as the last!

Alex Kidd in Miracle World (SMS)- I don't know how long this game is… but its a fun and engaging platformer and great fun every time.

Rush 'n Attack (NES)- Tough as nails, and extremely challenging, I can only get to stage 5 on my best days and can falter as early as stage 3. I love the music, atmosphere, and game play, but I just am not great at it. But I always come back for more punishment!

Ghost 'n Goblins (NES)- This game is ridiculous tough, but I still try… I am ok with never finishing this game the legit way :embarrassed:

Gran Turismo franchise (PSX/PS2)- I really do not know if there is proper conclusion (closest I get is with GT2 and it was glitched) but its fun just for the playing of the game. I can live with never getting 100% or finishing the endurance races. Rest of game is fantastic!

Fatal Rewind (Genesis)- This game is crazy hard, but I enjoy what I can get out of it…

those are some I can think of now…

Sonicwolf

07-26-2009, 05:35 PM

The Super Star Wars trilogy on the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. All three games are ridiculously hard with the first being the hardest due to its lack of passcode level return.

Nebagram

07-26-2009, 05:43 PM

Surprised Super Maio Bros 1 hasn't been mentioned yet. Consider I was a Master System lad so I never put in the marathon sessions on the game, but that game really is unforgiving in places.

Also F-Zero GX, and some of the Ridge Racers.

Chemdawg

07-26-2009, 05:51 PM

i agree with sonicwolf that super star wars gets pretty hard
also
contra even with the konami code
contra 3 for snes
castlevania 1 2 and 3

Therealqtip

07-26-2009, 05:55 PM

Oh I know now, FUCKING STREET FIGHTER. any of them, My record on XBLA is like 8 wins 165 loses I just can't beat anyone I suck so much. Maybe cause I need a joystick, but that's where I cross the line I'm not paying 150 bucks to play one game. Well maybe once it gets cheap it could be fun to use it for arcade games that suck with the analog stick.

megasdkirby

07-26-2009, 06:22 PM

Ninja Gaiden III comes to my mind. Enjoyed the hell out of it but never could beat it. I beat the first two, though.

The game can be conquered only after repeated playthroughs. After you know where everything is, it's a piece of cake. :)

For me it's Battletoads. I really want to give the game a chance, but it's insane difficulty puts me off.

jb143

07-26-2009, 06:49 PM

For me it's Battletoads. I really want to give the game a chance, but it's insane difficulty puts me off.

Same here. It's a pretty fun and cool game until the hover bike level. Then it's just crazy hard.

exit

07-26-2009, 07:17 PM

I have never been able to beat Castlevania 1 and 3 for NES. I've tried several times in the past to beat the first Castlevania and just get my ass handed to me by Death and I simply just suck at 3.

BetaWolf47

07-26-2009, 07:44 PM

thom_m

07-26-2009, 08:38 PM

Double Dragon 3 (NES) - at least, I think it's good. I can't remember the last time I went past the first level of that damn thing. But I just keep playing.

The 1 2 P

07-26-2009, 08:53 PM

The first two Ninja Gaidens on Nes come to mind. I have a love-hate relationship with them.

ryborg

07-26-2009, 08:53 PM

I can't believe there are people here who haven't beaten Legend of Zelda. It's really not that hard and it's an absolute classic.

garagesaleking!!

07-26-2009, 09:24 PM

i will admit to have never beaten oot either, also ninja gaiden on xbox is extremely difficult even on the first boss.

Sonicwolf

07-26-2009, 09:41 PM

Super Mario Bros.? I find that game ridiculously easy nowadays. Likewise, I find the Sonic games dreadfully difficult.

Exactly the same for me. SMB is pretty easy but I have yet to beat a single one of the classic Sonic games. They are ruthless at times.

garagesaleking!!

07-26-2009, 10:16 PM

what mario for me was hard, and sonic was incredibly easy, i beat sonic 1 and 2 on genesis i dont know how many times.

cyberfluxor

07-26-2009, 10:49 PM

ButtonMasher123

07-26-2009, 11:09 PM

I have a love/hate relationship with Castlevania 1 for the NES. It is a great game, but half way through it starts to get ridiculously hard especially the boss fights.

The boss fights wouldn't even be too bad if they didn't put the hardest part of the level right before you get there. That hallway of hell that you have to walk through full of medusa heads and those knights that take like 8 hits to kill leading up to the fight with the grim reaper still gives me chills.

Azraelscross

07-26-2009, 11:28 PM

i agree with sonicwolf that super star wars gets pretty hard
also
contra even with the konami code
contra 3 for snes
castlevania 1 2 and 3

Contra in general is a game 98% of people who play it suck at. me included.

farthest i ever made it in a contra game was the 4th level in 3. and that was only after many tries with a second player

Zelda links awakening DX. i've been stuck at turtle rock for 5 years now. I even managed to finish OoT a year after i got it*Yay GC pack in so i could finally play it* But Turtle rock just isn't going well

PresidentLeever

07-26-2009, 11:30 PM

The way I see it a game isn't really good if it has only frustrating difficulty, meaning to me that it has most or all of these ingredients:
- extensive trial & error/memorization (2D shooters, Ninja Gaiden 1-2, Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts, Abe's Odyssey)
- plain cheap hits (Blaster Master)
- simple enemies that take forever to kill
- having to master all the mechanics to get anywhere (some 2D fighters, Alien Soldier)
- requires you to level up constantly or having to stock up on healing/go back to town over and over (PS2) -_-
- bad camera (all Virgin 16-bitters, Mario 64, Resident Evil 1-3)
- poor control - unresponsive, slippery, or just not fit for the game. One game that fits the latter is TMNT1 because your turtle is way too slow and clunky to deal with the late level enemies in an efficient way. Another is Castlevania.
- poorly thought out checkpoint/weapon systems (Gaiares, Gradius, R-Type, Ninja Gaiden)
- extensive lag/slowdown

Zelda 2 is a game that I find has mostly frustrating difficulty, but I still like it quite a bit. I'm just a sucker for 2D platform/rpg hybrids I guess.

I used to enjoy all the old Ninja Gaiden games but when replaying them recently I could only stomach the third game...

PresidentLeever

07-26-2009, 11:36 PM

Exactly the same for me. SMB is pretty easy but I have yet to beat a single one of the classic Sonic games. They are ruthless at times.

What the...? and you call yourself Sonicwolf. :/

kupomogli

07-27-2009, 12:05 AM

Castlevania 3. I've beaten it a couple of times, once in a single continue, but it gets extremely hard at the end of the game. I don't play it nearly as much as I play the first game though so that's probably the main reason(which the first I can almost regularly one life the game.)

Contra 3. I love the game, but I don't think I've ever passed the fourth stage.

Contra Hard Corps. I like it, but I've only passed the first stage one time. That's it. Once.

Mega Man Zero. It's a pretty good series, though it's slightly difficult for all the wrong reasons. I'm not a fan of cheap deaths because they offer no option of viewing what you're going to jump down into. So alot of these deaths are cheap deaths because forced trial and error. If it's been over a year since you've played it, then you're most likely not going to remember that you're supposed to jump exactly in the middle to not jump down into spikes. It's that way on pretty much every game. Series that's built on cheap deaths.

Mirror's Edge. Just started playing it earlier and beaten it. The game is extremely difficult though, yet you do have infinite lives. I can guarantee that the entire time I played it on both time trials and the game itself I've died well over 300 times.

placebo

07-27-2009, 12:25 AM

Bart vs. the space mutants. Never beat it. But maybe it's not exactly a good game.
Out of this World.
More recently, Ninja Gaiden for Xbox (which I never beat until Dog mode) and Devil May Cry.

Kevincal

07-27-2009, 12:40 AM

Nice feedback. :) I guess it's a dirty little secret a lot of us have. We love certain games but never actually beat them. :P

And then there are those games that you hate so much that you can't stand to play them for more than 5 or 10 minutes! Like some NES games, I wonder how people have the courage to actually beat the game. :o

sebastiankirchoff

07-27-2009, 12:49 AM

The Sonic games can get pretty hard at times, though they are pretty fun and I keep coming back for more.

The 1 2 P

07-27-2009, 03:19 AM

I beat Super Castlevania 4 but I hated playing thru it. There were so many annoyingly difficult parts. Lately I've been stuck on Castlevania 1. Death is a cheap ass bastard. I'm about to move on to Castlevania 2.

Pezcore343

07-27-2009, 03:43 AM

jperryss

07-27-2009, 08:51 AM

Lately I've been stuck on Castlevania 1. Death is a cheap ass bastard.

To everyone who said this, the Holy Water is your friend. You can nail him before he even gets a chance to move, just gotta be prepared when he first appears. Once you do this once, you'll wonder why you ever struggled with him.

I have gotten all the way to Dracula on one life with only the Holy Water + triple shot. Of course, I then proceed to burn through 20 continues trying to beat Dracula. I couldn't count how many times I've lost to Dracula's 2nd form either simultaneously as I get the final hit on him or when he only had 1 stick left. Frustrating!

placebo

07-27-2009, 10:11 AM

Diddy Kong Racing for the 64 (and DS). Love everything about it except the difficulty. A game that hard ceases to be fun for me. I was hoping they'd fine-tune the difficulty for the DS release, but no such luck.

kaedesdisciple

07-27-2009, 11:09 AM

Shadow Dancer on the Genesis was one that I recently re-discovered. The game is great fun but I painfully remembered a few controller-throwing moments:

-The statue of liberty elevator level (tons of ninjas and nowhere to run)
-The "Room"s of level 5 (stupid black ninjas)
-The final boss (stupid black ninjas again)

AB Positive

07-27-2009, 11:12 AM

Rick Dangerous, Treasure Island Dizzy, Solstice, and Jet Set Willy.

Beat all four and... well in the last one's case you're f'ing lying. :D

Kevincal

07-27-2009, 11:30 AM

I think that a lot of the games being mentioned, especially by the OP, aren't exactly hard. I wouldn't consider a single one of the Zelda games to be difficult, they just take a little time and dedication. Same with Final Fantasy X, which is to date my favorite in the series. I don't mean to make fun of you or anything, but I think you could probably make it through a lot of the games on your list with some time, patience, and practice. I know how you feel with some of the longer games that you may get stuck on for hours or days, the first time I play Ocarina of Time I was 10(?) I think and I got stuck in the Deku Tree. Talk about embarassing. I gave up on it for a year, then one day went back to it and now I've beaten it half a dozen times. Even games like the Mega Mans, Castlevanias, Ninja Gaidens, Marios, while they do have a good amount of difficulty, if you spend a day or two practicing you can get through a good portion of them usually.

Again, I really don't mean to make fun of anyone or make anyone feel bad for not having finished something or not being good at particular games, but especially with the Zelda games I think you're really missing out by not just sticking through it and giving it a good shot. Then again if you're not having fun while playing then what's the point right? Just some advice.

Yes many of the games mentioned just take a lot of time and dedication. The problem I have with games like this, is if I take a break and try to go back to it, I forget what in the hell I was supposed to be doing! So the game just feels lost if you give it a break for months at a time. I kind of feel it is a flaw if a game is too drawn out... I don't have much patience though. If a game takes over 20 or 30 hours to beat, I'm usually bored with it by then. Especially since these type of games get more difficult toward the end. It's like a freaking marathon and then at the end is the hardest part. :P

But we are all different gamers. For instance I totally own all of the Mario and Sonic games, and don't find them difficult at all. I've played them so much. And I think it boils down to that, we all have our favorites and obviously the games we've played the most we are the best at.

Diddy Kong Racing for the 64 (and DS). Love everything about it except the difficulty. A game that hard ceases to be fun for me. I was hoping they'd fine-tune the difficulty for the DS release, but no such luck.

I loved / love Diddy Kong Racing on the N64. I got it close to its release and it is a pretty big game with difficult parts. WizPig in particular and also racing that octopuss stand out as being annoyingly difficult. Especially the last race with WizPig, holy crap you have to be PERFECT...

Kroogah

07-27-2009, 11:39 AM

DEAD RISING. Oh my God. It was one of the first 360 games I bought, I hated it so much I traded my 360. Can't complain about that now, as Radiant Silvergun and a DS flashcart were part of the trade....but after watching a few Youtube videos and reading a few FAQs I picked it up again, and now it's one of my all-time favorites. Once you learn how the game works and Frank West turns into a one-man killing machine it becomes fun as hell.

Pezcore343

07-27-2009, 02:11 PM

Yes many of the games mentioned just take a lot of time and dedication. The problem I have with games like this, is if I take a break and try to go back to it, I forget what in the hell I was supposed to be doing! So the game just feels lost if you give it a break for months at a time.

I know exactly how you feel with this. Forget months at a time. Sometime I'll put down a game for a few days, go back to it, and completely forget where I'm supposed to go/what I'm supposed to do. Especially with RPGs. And of course none of the characters want to helpful and give me a hint!

Kevincal

07-27-2009, 05:32 PM

Yep I really hate that. :) Happened to me a lot with Ocarina of Time..

Sonicwolf

07-27-2009, 05:36 PM

Another game that was frustratingly difficult but good was Super Mario RPG. Had some really irritating spots like the final boss and that Final Fantasy whore.

Kevincal

07-27-2009, 06:36 PM

Always wanted to try out Mario RPG... I'm guessing it still goes for a lot on ePay though...

kedawa

07-27-2009, 06:54 PM

GodHand is easily one of the best brawlers ever, but it's hard as hell. It took me about 30 tries to beat Fat Elvis and I never did get past that witch that turns you into a chihuahua.

Shadow of the Beast II for Amiga is also ball-bustingly difficult. After years of struggling with it, I picked up the Sega CD and Genesis versions and breezed through them. I still can't beat the Amiga version though.

Super Street Fighter II Turbo has to have the most infuriatingly cheap CPU opponents in the entire series, with massive damage handicap, no-charge specials, automatic throw escape, instant dizzy recovery, absurd multi-hit throws, input reading, and every other cheesy shortcut that Capcom uses to buff it's laughably simple AI.

cheesystick

07-27-2009, 07:05 PM

I always didn't have the dedication to beat any of the Turok games without cheating, even with guides. Super R-Type can be really frustrating with that whole "one shot, you're dead, start the entire level over" thing. I've never been able to get past the level 3 boss in Ikaruga, but most can't beat level two, so I don't feel so bad about it.

Also, I love most all of the metal slugs, but Metal Slug 4 is just too damn unforgiving. They included a lot of cool gameplay devices in the game, (such as the monkey transformation), but I can never play it without thinking that I am "sucking" more at it than I am actually playing it. Anything past level two is just too brutal.

One of my greatest gaming achievements was beating Metal Slug 3 for Xbox. You only get four lives - period, which wouldn't be so hard if it wasn't for the last level, which is about as long as all the other levels combined. Now I admit in the alien starship, I had to hit the 2nd player controller and start anew mid-game, but even with 8 lives (or 7, depending on how you look at it), beating that last level is extremely difficult. I flipped shit when I beat the last boss with only one life remaining.

Also, Thunder Spirits for SNES is tits-hard.

Zing

07-27-2009, 08:21 PM

The Super Star Wars trilogy on the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. All three games are ridiculously hard with the first being the hardest due to its lack of passcode level return.

Are you kidding? My largest complaint about the SNES Star Wars games was the total lack of challenge. I distinctly remember buying and completing the first game within a day, then returning it to the store (back when Kmart accepted open video game returns) since it was a waste of money. Empire Strikes Back was the same way. I gave up after that.

Zing

07-27-2009, 08:25 PM

Always wanted to try out Mario RPG... I'm guessing it still goes for a lot on ePay though...

It's what... $6... on the Wii Virtual Console? :)

Azraelscross

07-27-2009, 08:47 PM

GodHand is easily one of the best brawlers ever, but it's hard as hell. It took me about 30 tries to beat Fat Elvis and I never did get past that witch that turns you into a chihuahua.
.
made it farther than i have. i haven't even got close to beating the second stage yet

Sonicwolf

07-27-2009, 08:49 PM

Are you kidding? My largest complaint about the SNES Star Wars games was the total lack of challenge. I distinctly remember buying and completing the first game within a day, then returning it to the store (back when Kmart accepted open video game returns) since it was a waste of money. Empire Strikes Back was the same way. I gave up after that.

I guess your just much better at those style games than I. I find them to be irritatingly difficult.

Also, I miss Kmart. All Canadian Kmart stores were closed back in 2001.

Leo_A

07-27-2009, 08:54 PM

Zing is the first person I've ever seen in a decade of visting videogame forums to state that the Super Star Wars series is too easy.

You should post YouTube videos of run throughs on the three games to give tips and such, since most everyone else finds them very difficult.

Tron 2.0

07-27-2009, 10:19 PM

i agree with sonicwolf that super star wars gets pretty hard
also
castlevania 1 2 and 3
Castlevania II simon's quest you gota be kidding me.That one is the easy one of the,bunch long as you know where to go etc it's simple.While i think (CV1&3) offer the most challenge far as gameplay go's.

Ed Oscuro

07-27-2009, 10:27 PM

To me, a good game can hand my butt to me ten times in as many minutes but you still feel compelled to play on. If I'm being frustrated it's likely because I make the same mistake over and over...and when that happens it's likely due to poor controls or something that, in my mind, disqualifies it from truly being a good game.

Castlevania II simon's quest you gota be kidding me.That one is the easy one of the,bunch long as you know where to go etc it's simple.While i think (CV1&3) offer the most challenge far as gameplay go's.
CV II has its good moments, but level design (invisible blocks in the manors? not good) certainly holds it back - at times. Other times it's quite nicely done. But I would say that it's frustrating with many difficult jumps. Good controls inherited from Castlevania but you gotta back that up with good design.

The Castlevania Adventure (on the Game Boy) usually gets picked as the most frustrating CV, but I can still breeze through it easily. Can't say that about a lot of games. I actually have fun with that one, although the pace is amongst the slowest of all Konami's games (not a good thing).

NoahsMyBro

07-27-2009, 10:34 PM

GRAVITAR

I've come close, but never successfully blown up the reactor (and escaped) to complete the first galaxy.

TurboGenesis

07-27-2009, 11:13 PM

I absolutely love Galactic Attack for the Saturn. Regardless of how many hours I've played it I've yet to get past the armored suite boss in the planet's core. I always do stupid mistakes burning through ships on my way there and then it's a complete pain to avoid the onslaught of attacks so it's a death trap. I hope one day I'll get by and beat the game.

Last year I spotted and played RayStorm at a convention which was a real treat, now I need to check out RayCrisis.

I enjoy Galactic Attack (was playing recently until frustration set in and went back to Garegga) and I really love RayStorm as the second ship is awesome, but I could not get into RayCrisis. The game is really demanding with its encroachment thing and I guess I cannot be bothered to delve deep into its scoring mechanic *shrug*

Now if they put the second ship from RayStorm in Galactic Attack that would have made it amazing!

and a few others that I enjoy but cannot complete:

Legendary Axe (TG-16)- I really like this game alot, but I cannot get pass the stage 5. I always return to it though, maybe someday I'll progress further, but if not, I have fun anyways.

Space Harrier (SMS and TG-16)- I love Space Harrier, but I have never finished it. Its a fun ride on every play however and the music is great too.

Cobra Triangle (NES)- A great game with many challenges and with progress it becomes much harder, to the point where I will fail, but I come back for more!

Ultimate Qix (Genesis)- I am not sure if there is a final level to this game, but playing for score and trying to get as high as percentage is fun enough. Qix is like drugs� I am addicted to Ultimate Qix (and Qix Neo on PSX too)

R-Type (TG-16)- I buy R-Type new in 1990 for $69.99 and I think I got my moneys worth. I have only finished stage 6 a couple of times and usually my game ends there� but 19 years later, I come back for more and enjoy it the same now as back then.

JohnnyBlaze

07-27-2009, 11:30 PM

Not sure if this was said but how about Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers and it's sequel? They're a challenge and can sap away lives like water, but it is DAMN good.

kupomogli

07-28-2009, 12:31 AM

To everyone who said this, the Holy Water is your friend. You can nail him before he even gets a chance to move, just gotta be prepared when he first appears. Once you do this once, you'll wonder why you ever struggled with him.

I have gotten all the way to Dracula on one life with only the Holy Water + triple shot. Of course, I then proceed to burn through 20 continues trying to beat Dracula. I couldn't count how many times I've lost to Dracula's 2nd form either simultaneously as I get the final hit on him or when he only had 1 stick left. Frustrating!

Yeah. I can one life the original CV regularly. Holy Water is what I usually use but I sometimes use the Axe, or rarely, the Cross against Death.

If you loop CV, then you'll want to use either the Axe of Cross. Death is still stunned by Holy Water, however his scythes will still appear on the loop even while he's being damaged. Holy Water doesn't last that long to attack or dodge a scythe and then jump to hit him with Holy Water again.

Dracula is actually easy. There's a trick with his first form. Duck when he appears he'll shoot the fireballs downward, allowing you to jump over them and attack his head easier. His second form is simple, so that if you have atleast double shot, then once he hits the ground, throw Holy Water, jump and attack, jump and throw Holy Water, jump attack, repeat. The reason why you jump when you throw Holy Water is so you can hit his face as well for extra damage. If you don't have double shot it won't be too hard, as long as you didn't get hit much on his first form as you'll atleast get hit once if you can't get under a high jump on his second form(which are almost impossible because you don't know when he'll do them.)

kedawa

07-28-2009, 12:42 AM

I didn't find Super Star Wars particularly difficult, but Super Empire Strikes Back kicks my ass all over the place. I remember Super Return of the Jedi being somewhere in between.

Baloo

07-28-2009, 08:13 AM

It seems like most Star Wars games of the time are really just flat-out frustrating:

Super Star Wars
Super Empire Strikes Back
Super Return of the Jedi
Star Wars Arcade

jperryss

07-28-2009, 09:07 AM

Dracula is actually easy...

I didn't remember any part of Drac's 2nd form being vulnerable except for his head. I'll have to give the holy water a shot next time (it's one of those games I play through at least 1-2x a year).

jperryss

07-28-2009, 09:10 AM

It seems like most Star Wars games of the time are really just flat-out frustrating:

Super Star Wars
Super Empire Strikes Back
Super Return of the Jedi
Star Wars Arcade

As far as the 3 SNES ones go, I remember the first one being REALLY hard on the highest difficulty setting. I've finished the game, but I can't remember if I ever did it on the highest difficulty.

I actually own all three, but have not played through ESB or RotJ. Yet.

YoshiM

07-28-2009, 02:41 PM

It seems like most Star Wars games of the time are really just flat-out frustrating

I know Zing touched on how these games were easy for them but I think Baloo hit it here. From my experience with them (some play with SSW and SRotJ and I beat SESB) they were hard per se (at least on normal difficulty) but just very cheap. I died a LOT in SESB and not so much by gamer error (back when I was decent at side scroll platformers) but just how cheap the hits and the insta-death drops were. I could get past where I had problems but damn I got pissed off in the process.

Here's my wall of shame:

Castlevania: I don't think I ever got to Death as I didn't dedicate time to get there. I think Castlevania 2 came out and I didn't really go back after that. Funny thing-I actually BEAT CV2.

Sonic 1: I got as far as the water level and that was that. I couldn't get past that level and just moved on.

Super Mario Bros. 3: This one hurts. Back in the day I was able to get to the last levels via warp whistles and such and I couldn't finish it. Once the 16 bit revolution got going and I started to get more of a social life, I just left this sit. I still think of playing it from time to time.

Star Voyager: Maybe not a good game to many but it's got potential. I loved the concept and how Acclaim put it together but when you actually fight things, it's a pain in the ass to play. I never could shoot down one ship as every enemy hit I took my vessel slowed and stopped.

Milon's Secret Castle: I loved this when I was a teen but I could never, ever beat the first "world". Got to the boss, got my butt handed to me, and that was that. This is one of those "cheap hit" games.

Phantasy Star II: I could never finish this game and I look at it with scorn. I don't know if it's just because I didn't put the time into it or if it really did get difficult as it's been too long.