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Zap!
08-05-2009, 03:40 AM
Was this old Sega Master System game the very first video game cartridge ever to use the password system (at least in the US)? I have reason to believe that it is, and no one ever gives it credit for it's huge landmark. While I don't know exactly when in 1987 it was released, I bought it in April/May of that year. Metroid and Kid Icarus, the first password NES games, didn't come out until late in 1987.

Blitzwing256
08-05-2009, 09:07 AM
you forget goonies 2 came out before metroid or kid icarus

jb143
08-05-2009, 11:38 AM
you forget goonies 2 came out before metroid or kid icarus

:? Metroid/Kid Icarus was released August 1987 in the States. Goonies 2 was released November 1987 in the states. As far as Ghostbusters, I guess it all depends on what month it was released.

j_factor
08-05-2009, 01:57 PM
Did the other versions of Ghostbusters use password save as well?

SparTonberry
08-05-2009, 02:36 PM
I don't know about the US, but there were definitely Famicom games released in 1986 that used passwords. The earliest I know of is the original Dragon Quest, released in May 1986. (DQ1 and 2 used password systems that were replaced with backup memory for the English releases)

Zap!
08-05-2009, 03:13 PM
you forget goonies 2 came out before metroid or kid icarus

Goonies II come out in November, 1987 if I remember right. Long after Ghostbusters.


Did the other versions of Ghostbusters use password save as well?

Not sure, but the NES version was released much later.

rbudrick
08-05-2009, 03:45 PM
Maybe my trivia is wrong, but I always thought Metroid and Kid Icarus were the first password games. I knowthey came out in the US in 87, but the copyright on screen says 1986.

-Rob

jb143
08-05-2009, 04:04 PM
Maybe my trivia is wrong, but I always thought Metroid and Kid Icarus were the first password games. I knowthey came out in the US in 87, but the copyright on screen says 1986.

-Rob

That's what I always heard too. I think the only place it gets tricky is for the Japanese release since the FDS saved to disk and didn't need a password. So the game was released earlier but the password system wasn't used till later.

I don't know about the Japanese Dragon Quest, but if it did use a password and was released after Metroid there but before here, then it could be the first. I don't really know.

Zap!
08-05-2009, 04:13 PM
Maybe my trivia is wrong, but I always thought Metroid and Kid Icarus were the first password games. I knowthey came out in the US in 87, but the copyright on screen says 1986.

That's why I said "in the US." :)


That's what I always heard too. I think the only place it gets tricky is for the Japanese release since the FDS saved to disk and didn't need a password. So the game was released earlier but the password system wasn't used till later.

I don't know about the Japanese Dragon Quest, but if it did use a password and was released after Metroid there but before here, then it could be the first. I don't really know.

DQ did indeed use a password in 1986, but I'm talking strictly US only.

jb143
08-05-2009, 04:28 PM
This is actually kind of frustrating. All the sites that list the actual release dates for SMS games just say 1987 for Ghost Busters.

Zap!
08-05-2009, 04:35 PM
This is actually kind of frustrating. All the sites that list the actual release dates for SMS games just say 1987 for Ghost Busters.

Take my word for it, I am superb with dates. Ghostbusters was not released after the Summer, 1987. At the latest, July 1987. More like May 1987 I'm thinking.

tom
08-05-2009, 05:49 PM
I remember an Apple ][ game from 1983/84? with password, but I forgot the title.

j_factor
08-06-2009, 02:23 AM
Not sure, but the NES version was released much later.

But I'm pretty sure the Atari 8-bit version came much earlier.

Zap!
08-06-2009, 05:51 AM
But I'm pretty sure the Atari 8-bit version came much earlier.

I should have been more specific in the OP, but I am talking about console versions only, in the US. My fault.

Kid Fenris
08-06-2009, 04:07 PM
Two other early password-using games come to mind: Deadly Towers and the NES port of Gauntlet. Deadly Towers came out in September of 1987 (and the year before in Japan). Gauntlet was released the same year, but I can't pin down a month.


I should have been more specific in the OP, but I am talking about console versions only, in the US. My fault.

As long as you're backpedaling, why not narrow down your range to movie-based games that were released on Sega systems and start with the letter G? In that case, Ghostbusters was indeed the first U.S.-released game with a password feature.

tomaitheous
08-06-2009, 07:43 PM
Was this old Sega Master System game the very first video game cartridge ever to use the password system (at least in the US)? I have reason to believe that it is, and no one ever gives it credit for it's huge landmark.

If it's just a localization of the a Japanese cart, and other Japanese carts (FC or Mark III) did it before hand, then how is that a "landmark"? Especially if other games using a password system also came out with in a couple of months (i.e. weren't influenced by this great landmark/password system)?

j_factor
08-07-2009, 12:54 AM
I should have been more specific in the OP, but I am talking about console versions only, in the US. My fault.

The Atari 8-bit practically is a console. I mean you could play it on the XEGS. Although I guess technically, the XEGS wasn't quite out yet. But still, the XE "Game System" and the computer aren't really any different in practical terms.

Zap!
08-07-2009, 03:49 AM
As long as you're backpedaling, why not narrow down your range to movie-based games that were released on Sega systems and start with the letter G? In that case, Ghostbusters was indeed the first U.S.-released game with a password feature.

I only backpedaled in one thing, console releases. In my OP, I did say US only. Since GB SMS came out no later than May/June, it is indeed the first US console PW game until further notice. Gauntlet was later on.

grolt
08-07-2009, 03:26 PM
If it's just a localization of the a Japanese cart, and other Japanese carts (FC or Mark III) did it before hand, then how is that a "landmark"? Especially if other games using a password system also came out with in a couple of months (i.e. weren't influenced by this great landmark/password system)?

There was no Mark III release for Ghostbusters, so the US release would certainly stand on its own.