Overrated Games

[houstonlibrarian]

This is a close cousin to my other thread, but slightly different.
What game did everyone else on earth think was fun as crap, but you never got it?

Pitfall for Intellivision...or probably any other console for that matter.
I really did not get the allure of this game. Gimme Poker and Blackjack all day. Gimme any other game for the Intellivision for that metter. Pitfall just had a guy running constantly, monotonously from left to right and occasionally jumping on a rope.

Pitfall 3 for Commodore 64 was just as bad. In that one he went down into some caverns I believe, butit was equally as pointless. Just kept going from screen to screen, climbing up and down ladders til it was time to go to bed so you shut off the Commodore 64.

[Lostdwarf]

silent hill: homecoming

i was sooo siked about when this game came out, i bought it the minute it went on the shelf, took it home and since then maybe played it 3 times. i like the silent hill series but this one was a miss in my opinion

mike

[CelticJobber]

"Skate" was touted as the best thing since sliced bread, but as a long-time player of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater series, I just hated that game. The controls are so unforgiving that its honestly easier for me to ride a real skateboard than play that game. Most of my friends also hate it, but I've never seen anything but positive reviews for it.

As a series I think Tekken is highly over-rated, especially when games like Virtua Fighter and Soul Calibuer are so much better, but seem to sell alot less.

[Cloud121]

As a series I think Tekken and Soul Calibur are highly over-rated, especially when Virtua Fighter is so much better, but seems to sell a lot less.
Fixed. I hate 'em both, but I give Tekken a slight edge. Soul Edge was okay though.

[Flack]

I think the topic of your post may not match the question you are asking. Not only was Pitfall NOT overrated, it was groundbreaking. It established platform games, and was an amazing feat of programming on the Atari 2600 (go read Racing the Beam for more information). According to the book, the level design for all 255 rooms was stored in 50 bytes (less than your post above).

[Snapple]

This topic gets done a lot, and it usually brings up Final Fantasy. I am not going to go down that road.

About Disgaea, I think the dialogue and characters are funny, but the game is a total grindfest and the mechanics are otherwise shallow. It is an overrated series. There, I said it.

EDIT: also, I agree with Flack. Without Pitfall, there's no Mario, no Sonic, no Metroid, video games as we know them would be totally different.

[jacrough]

The original Legend of Zelda. It wasn't that it was a bad game, and it did basically spur the open world action adventure, but it wasn't until LTTP that the series actually seemed polished.

[PentiumMMX]

Mortal Kombat. I'll admit, it was enjoyable in multiplayer, though outside of the blood and gore, I don't really see why it was so popular in the first place.

[sebastiankirchoff]

World of Warcraft- I played for about 6 months, got to level 46, got bored and quit. Its a good game, but after a while it gets old and isn't very rewarding. In the time I spent playing it, I could have played way better games and had a lot more fun.

[houstonlibrarian]

I think the topic of your post may not match the question you are asking. Not only was Pitfall NOT overrated, it was groundbreaking. It established platform games, and was an amazing feat of programming on the Atari 2600 (go read Racing the Beam for more information). According to the book, the level design for all 255 rooms was stored in 50 bytes (less than your post above).

Except that it was the most boring Intellivision game that I had out of about 35 or 40. I did not find it fun in the least.

[betamax001]

The original Legend of Zelda. It wasn't that it was a bad game, and it did basically spur the open world action adventure, but it wasn't until LTTP that the series actually seemed polished.

I agree fully.

In my opinion the original Sonic game for Genesis are tad overrated. They are fun, yes, and the graphics pretty awesome for a 16 bit system, but you go by the levels so fast you cant enjoy the levels. But it is still fun. In short bursts. After awhile all the scrolling and zooming Sonic does gives me a headache.

[Atari 5200]

Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VII.

[Soviet Conscript]

yhea this topic does come up alot


World of Warcraft- I played for about 6 months, got to level 46, got bored and quit. Its a good game, but after a while it gets old and isn't very rewarding. In the time I spent playing it, I could have played way better games and had a lot more fun.

agreed. my biggest problem with WOW was the lack of the fear of death. maybe why i enjoyed everquest and ff online alot more. you were always fearful of death because of the ep hit. it made play alot more thrilling and made achomplishments more meaningful.

Halo - always thought it was a OK FPS but never understood what everyone raved about. only thing i can figure is maybe it was the first game to do console multiplay right? as a long time PC gamer that kinda thing was "been there and done" years ago for me.

[todesengel]

Halo and Final Fantasy 7.

[ryborg]

Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VII.


Halo and Final Fantasy 7.

quotin' these posts.

[Kid Ice]

15 posts in, I have not yet seen a game I agree is overrated (I've played all except the Silent Hill game).

Whenever I see FF7 in these things I laugh. It's not even my kind of game....still the production values are through the roof (I mean do you really not recognize that?), and it was such an important game in that generation.

Pitfall? When I think Pitfall I think VCS, so the point about the Intellivision version is lost on me.

Halo's another one. It was a launch game and imo it's still one of the best games on that system. I think there's this "I'm sick of Halo so it's overrated" mentality out there.

[Pezcore343]

Halo's another one. It was a launch game and imo it's still one of the best games on that system. I think there's this "I'm sick of Halo so it's overrated" mentality out there.

I have to agree here. It seems that once Halo got into the sequels (especially the 3rd one) it became cool to hate on it. I'm not saying it's the best thing ever, but it was certainly a great game, and very important for console gaming. Then again a lot of you PC gamers are quite jaded. :P

[betamax001]

I generally scoff at when people say that FFVII is overrated. I have fond memories of the game (maybe that clouts my judgement?) and had a blast playing it. And no I didn't play it when it came out. I played it when I got it around Xmas 2005/2006. Though I probably would have played FFVII when it came out or closer to when it did if i had a PSone back in the day. I think it deserved the hype. Now Advent Children on the other hand was overhyped and didn't live up to that. All it was was CGI eyecandy.

[ryborg]

Whenever I see FF7 in these things I laugh. It's not even my kind of game....still the production values are through the roof (I mean do you really not recognize that?)

Woah, production values. That's why you see Waterworld and the King Kong remake on every top movie list.

[Kid Ice]

Woah, production values. That's why you see Waterworld and the King Kong remake on every top movie list.

Woah, irrelevant. What does this even mean? I didn't think either of those movies had significantly greater production values than, say, at least 10 other movies that came out the same year.

It would help a little if some of you would let us into your thought process rather than just typing "Halo". Or worse, just quoting someone else's response.

[todesengel]

It would help a little if some of you would let us into your thought process rather than just typing "Halo". Or worse, just quoting someone else's response.
With Halo I just found the game to be boring and not that fun plus I don't feel that it did anything special that other shooter's hadn't done before it. Now FF7 I just don't see what the big deal is with it honestly, everybody that defends it usually just goes on about the graphics which I think aren't that amazing really(and didn't find them that good when it came out either). Maybe because I'm not an RPG fan though might be why I feel that way about FF7.

[Ed Oscuro]

Without Pitfall, there's no Mario, no Sonic, no Metroid, video games as we know them would be totally different.
We would have had platformers regardless of whether any of those particular games showed up. It's simply a straightforward, obvious application of early game hardware. I'm not swayed by the argument.

I don't really like Pitfall, but it does impress me - graphically. I've always felt that graphics were the major reason games get overrated, and when we're focused on the graphics...eh.


Then again a lot of you PC gamers are quite jaded. :P
A lot of PC FPSers could focus on how broken and uninventive Halo was. But, despite the broken and uninventive parts, it was still - just as you say - a very good game. It certainly looked ahead of its time (then again, only having to squeeze a picture into 640x480 lets games feel that way).

Some additions off the top of my head -

Counter-Strike: There's much better and more modern complete FREEWARE games than the original CS, yet some people are still going back for more a decade and more out - even the Source engine remake is getting dated)

Painkiller: Fun but meh at points, also what were they thinking with those jumps and physics puzzles for secrets. Lots of fun when it's fun, not so fun when it's not.

SSI's AD&D Pools of Radiance: Almost certainly overrated, but groundbreaking for its day, and, if you can get over the horrible obvious gamebreaking issues and bugs, it's a lot of fun. If only my second fighter character wasn't hitting a fake level cap - and if only multi-class characters levelled up more quickly.

The MMO genre: 'nuff said. Supposedly I played one of the best ones (Star Wars Galaxies) during its heyday (pre-creature handler nerf and during, pre-"combat upgrade") and it was incredibly tedious.

[ryborg]

Woah, irrelevant. What does this even mean? I didn't think either of those movies had significantly greater production values than, say, at least 10 other movies that came out the same year.

Wrong. Waterworld and the King Kong remake are infamous for being in the top 10 of most expensive movies of all time, yet are completely unwatchable. Please tell me you're just being snarky and you really don't understand that production values != quality.


It would help a little if some of you would let us into your thought process rather than just typing "Halo". Or worse, just quoting someone else's response.

What more can you really say about these games? Either you're the kind of person who likes simple RPGs with shallow, one-dimensional characters or you're not.

[Soviet Conscript]

With Halo I just found the game to be boring and not that fun plus I don't feel that it did anything special that other shooter's hadn't done before it. .

i agree completely. i felt it was overrated before any sequels were ever mentioned. i agree with Ice when he says its one of the better games for the system but overall in the history of games i really don't see it as anything as special as people make it out to be.

[Pezcore343]

Lots of fun when it's fun, not so fun when it's not.

I'll writing that one down for later. Quite deep.

As for Halo, I know it's not the best shooter out there, especially compared to a lot of the PC shooters of the time, but it did do a lot of console FPS games, and I think for first person 3D games in general on consoles. By the by, the quip about jaded PC games was just a joke...mostly. XD

[Jehusephat]

I can't stand Grand Theft Auto games. Everyone I know loves them, but for some reason I got bored after the first few missions of GTA3 and did something more exciting, like the dishes. Oddly enough, I thoroughly enjoyed Mafia, which I know was just a GTA3 clone.

I also don't like Starcraft, but I think that's mostly because I just suck at it.

I used to really love Mortal Kombat games when they first came out, but playing them now as an adult I see that they're all clearly inferior to Street Fighter 2, the fighting game I should've spent all of my time playing back then. I think the MK games sold based on the violence factor, and now that violence is a video gaming staple for the most part, the shock factor wore off. That, and I don't have a mom to piss off by playing games like that anymore :P.

...well, I have a mom. I just don't live with her.

[RASK1904]

Resident Evil 5. I will not go into it again. If you'd like look at the thread in the modern gaming.

As for Classics I've never really liked the games everyone loves way to much. That kinda turns me off. I don't want to be told how the game is going to make me feel? Yes alot of them are very good. But some like FFVII is so over blown that I boycot them. Now FFIII on the Snes is amazing. Probably the best looking game on the Snes.

N64 Paper Mario
Snes Mario RPG
Both are very simple games for little kids. I do not understand why people want these. Sure you're not going to run into them even once a month but who cares. They SUCK!

I realy don't know what you meen by over hyped nether. To me this would come down to $. So, alot of people like/want a game so the price goes up. Right, then I'm like sure I'd like that game. So I break down and pay........ 30$. Then I don't like the game. Now that sucks. I usually don't care how much someone hypes a game. Alot of the time I can have just as much fun with a 1$ game. Becuase I get so many games each week that even a very good game gets played once or twice then it's on to the games I just got today. Me or my girlfriend have to like the game for me to actually beat it.

[StetsonGraves]

I can't think of any classic ones at the moment because in the last year I played Far Cry 2, Assassin's Creed, and Mirror's Edge and thought they were all average at best. Mirror's Edge had a cool (though monotonous) style, Assassin's had some great animations and Far Cry's world was breathtaking--but as it was already mentioned, production values don't make it more fun.

[nhm]

I remember that Eternal Champions for Genesis got HUGE ratings from most magazines, but everyone I know that played said it sucked. It was clearly a case of writers succuming to "outside influence."

[Snapple]

A lot of people hate Mirror's Edge and Assassin's Creed. I don't think either of them are highly rated enough in the first place to be overrated.

[Baloo]

I remember that Eternal Champions for Genesis got HUGE ratings from most magazines, but everyone I know that played said it sucked. It was clearly a case of writers succuming to "outside influence."

No way, IMHO I love Eternal Champions, probably my favorite 2D fighter. That game is awesome.

@EdOscuro I find Counter-Strike to be a very enjoyable game. It's fun, fast, and it's not hardware intensive. And noting the amount of people online playing for such an old game is pretty remarkable. CS: Source was pretty fun as well, although my computer couldn't run it without lagging very badly unless there were less than 5 people on the server. The only problem I have with it is that people don't like to play the different maps, and most play on De_Dust2 alone.

Now these are some games that I don't think are bad, but aren't good enough for the hype that surrounds them (note that I'm not a fan of RPGs at all, frankly I think the whole genre is boring):

Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy Series (especially VII)
Guitar Hero
Rock Band
MMO Genre (It gets boring doing the same thing over and over again after a while)

[fahlim003]

i agree completely. i felt it was overrated before any sequels were ever mentioned. i agree with Ice when he says its one of the better games for the system but overall in the history of games i really don't see it as anything as special as people make it out to be.

The good in Halo is online multiplayer, which while limited to the slightly worse PC version, it still loads of fun all these years on. I won't argue the fact Halo was hyped to shit for several years but looking back it's not a bad game. The single player campaign was... ok, certainly not the worst nor the best I've tried but like most FPS that stand the test of time, the goods are found online.

[IcBlUsCrN]

Panzer dragoon saga , Holy crap how much did i spend on this? so i played it for the first time few months after looking for it for a while. I got to the 2nd disc and sort of gave up cant keep my attention.
Yet i also played mario rpg for the first time and liked it a lot. I by no means am a rpg but like looking for and playing these so called lost classics.

[Ed Oscuro]

@EdOscuro I find Counter-Strike to be a very enjoyable game. It's fun, fast, and it's not hardware intensive.
The genre is deep (and old) enough by now that even the average PC owner should be able to play some of the derivatives by now. It's gone beyond addition to...I dunno, a religion or something. :?

I can't guarantee it's as good, but Tactical Operations: Crossfire (http://www.to-crossfire.net/) seemed like a good take on the genre to me.

And heck, lots of people should be able to play Counter-Strike: Source on a laptop by now, let alone a gaming PC.

It's funny to think that DOOM has only been around about 50% longer than CS (DOOM from winter '93, CS beta from sometime in '99).

[j_factor]

Diablo is a big one for me; I have no idea why it's so popular. When I played it, it just about put me to sleep.

[kupomogli]

This topic gets done a lot, and it usually brings up Final Fantasy. I am not going to go down that road.

About Disgaea, I think the dialogue and characters are funny, but the game is a total grindfest and the mechanics are otherwise shallow. It is an overrated series. There, I said it.

I agree on both fronts. While FF10, 11, and 12 are crap, there's no doubt that there is a lot of work put into each game. Nearly all the FF games are good as is Final Fantasy 7. FF7 gets stated it's the best RPG alot though because A, the majority of gamers haven't played it and it's what they hear, B, they were shown the game and they haven't played many other RPG titles, or C, all the FF games or major RPGs last gen weren't as good as FF7(some good unnoticed games were better.)

Given that. FF7 would make it on a top 100 RPG list. Though I doubt it'd make a top 50. I've played alot.

--

Anyways. For the second agreement. Disgaea sucks ass. I've never seen a shittier series in my life get such praise. It was decent to play through the first time solely because of the humor in the story(what can I say, I loved Flonne,) however the game has no gameplay. It has the most basic substance of being a tactical RPG with hardly any variation towards making characters different, making any sortof difficulty, anything. The game is a piece of shit.

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*edit*

Someone save that long list of images as a single picture and color all of the white to black. I might quote that. I would add every variation of Phantom Brave and La Pucelle in there too, but the other ones are sortof obscure(in comparison to Disgaea because PB isn't really obscure at all) and thankfully the fanboys/girls don't mention those games every half second.

[The 1 2 P]

I'll also give FFVII a nod. I tried playing both the demo and actual game and could never get into it. I still don't see what the big fuss about it is.

The other one is the first Metal Gear Solid. I really wanted to like this game but just wasn't feeling it. I never even finished playing it because I lost interest not long after I started playing it. Perhaps I was a little jaded from playing Syphon Filter first(which at the time I was comparing this game to) but Metal Gear Solid did not do it for me.

[Chainsaw_Charlie]

Final Fantasy 7 as others have said but my reason is the characters(Vincent Valentine aside) look like crap and the story was kinda boring. As for Sepiroth, I still say Kefka was way better a villian.

While I love Suikoden 2 imo Suikoden is better

I also just couldnt get into Tales of destiny 1/2 yet love the ps2/psp/gc games

[Jisho23]

Wow, the hate on FF7 and Halo...

For me it will be Silent Hill 2. Granted, I totally understand why people love it (mostly for writing and aesthetics) but if a game doesn't play good, than I feel everything else that may be good about the game can be thrown out the window. I'm yet to find someone who likes the game and disagrees that "the controls were a little clunky."

[Jisho23]

Panzer dragoon saga , Holy crap how much did i spend on this? so i played it for the first time few months after looking for it for a while. I got to the 2nd disc and sort of gave up cant keep my attention.
Yet i also played mario rpg for the first time and liked it a lot. I by no means am a rpg but like looking for and playing these so called lost classics.

Also, I might take that statement seriously if I could understand what you are trying to say.

[kaedesdisciple]

For all the FFVII hate, are we looking at this through 2009 eyes or through 1997 eyes? Sure the models look bad now, but back in '97 I thought this game looked great. I played through the whole thing twice when it was released and I loved it. The sprawling map, the active time battle system, levelling up the spells and summons, chocobo raising, taking on the Weapons, I had a grand old time with all of it. Not sure I'd play it with the same kind of fervor now, but it was great then. Maybe it just doesn't stand the test of time as well as some other games.

GTA whatever, for me, is the prime example of overrated. I've tried the game in many incarnations and none of them have ever spoken to me. I've never had fun playing any of them.

[j_factor]

For all the FFVII hate, are we looking at this through 2009 eyes or through 1997 eyes? Sure the models look bad now, but back in '97 I thought this game looked great. I played through the whole thing twice when it was released and I loved it. The sprawling map, the active time battle system, levelling up the spells and summons, chocobo raising, taking on the Weapons, I had a grand old time with all of it. Not sure I'd play it with the same kind of fervor now, but it was great then. Maybe it just doesn't stand the test of time as well as some other games.

I thought the squat character models with squares instead of hands looked bad at the time. And I never understood why they had three different versions of the character models -- the main ones in town, the battle models, and the ones at the end of the game. Why couldn't they have used the best of the three at all times? It's not like there are ever tons of characters on screen at once, and the Playstation would've had a hard time with it or anything. But I still enjoyed the game.

[obesolete]

silent hill: homecoming
i was sooo siked about when this game came out, i bought it the minute it went on the shelf, took it home and since then maybe played it 3 times. i like the silent hill series but this one was a miss in my opinion


ew, yes. I wasn't too keen on this either. And i'm an avid SH fan.
Origins wasn't very good either. Silent Hill metals must be made out of silly putty for iron poles to break after 1.5 enemies.


I also agree on ff7. it was the beginning of the end. A part of me died inside when it first came out and a friend of mine at the time asked me why it was "7" and if there were anymore in the series. =(

I don't get WoW either. I left an ex because of it. I'm pretty sure he's still playing and hasn't noticed i've left yet. @_@

[Swamperon]

World of Warcraft. There doesn't seem to be anything to amazingly standout-ish about it. It appears to be the MMO that everyone, including "casuals" latched on to. Much like...

Halo. Meh, decent game. Fun in multiplayer but nothing amazing. Golden Eye before it already showed FPS's on consoles could be done.

GTA IV. I enjoyed the previous entries, bu this one was a bit cack in comparison. How it got so many 10/10's from reviewers is beyond me. I recall quite a few saying that they got caught up in the hype and scored it too highly.

Final Fantasy Tactics. It annoys me to no end how many people seem to suggest that this started off the whole SRPG genre in the west and that it brought it into the mainstream. The only reason it did that was due to having the words 'Final' and 'Fantasy' in the title. Knaffers to it! Huzzah I say for Shining Force, Tactic's Ogre, Fire Emblem etc

[Solertia]

This thread is just a flamewar waiting to happen... Some of the posts so far have filled me with rage, and I don't even wanna say what I think is overrated o__o;;

[Baloo]

You know what I just realized is a really overrated game:

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

They really dropped the ball with this one, I got it six months ago along with my Wii and I can't find a reason to play it, I've been playing Super Smash Bros. on 64 instead!

[StetsonGraves]

I've never played Brawl but I've invested enough time in Melee that I could have probably cured cancer.

[Swamperon]

Oooh, and I'll also add Championship Manager, how this series gets the fans/love/positive attention it does is beyond me. Granted I don't like football, but still, you don't even get to see them play! I've seen people fall asleep whilst playing! Asleep!

[Kid Fenris]

Final Fantasy Tactics. It annoys me to no end how many people seem to suggest that this started off the whole SRPG genre in the west and that it brought it into the mainstream. The only reason it did that was due to having the words 'Final' and 'Fantasy' in the title. Knaffers to it! Huzzah I say for Shining Force, Tactic's Ogre, Fire Emblem etc

So it annoys you when people suggest something that's completely true?

Final Fantasy Tactics is also better than any of the other games you mentioned, so there you go.

[Jisho23]

SSI's AD&D Pools of Radiance: Almost certainly overrated, but groundbreaking for its day, and, if you can get over the horrible obvious gamebreaking issues and bugs, it's a lot of fun. If only my second fighter character wasn't hitting a fake level cap - and if only multi-class characters levelled up more quickly.



Agreed... somewhat. Props have to be given because (as you say) it was groundbreaking and managed to pretty faithfully adapt the 2nd edition rules into a game. Personally, I don't thinks it's overrated... I almost never hear it being rated.

Also "Curse of the Azure Bonds" is better.

[tom]

Pong.

[CelticJobber]

The Super Smash Bros. games. I love Nintendo but I could never get into that series.

[kupomogli]

Final Fantasy Tactics is also better than any of the other games you mentioned, so there you go.

He also listed Tactics Ogre. FFTactics can't even compare to how badass TO: LUCT is. Though the SNES version was only released in Japan so we didn't see it until PSX.

FFT is better than the rest of those, though. Especially Fire Emblem which never launched in the US until the GBA and sucks except for the pretty attacks and great storyline.

[Ed Oscuro]

Agreed... somewhat. Props have to be given because (as you say) it was groundbreaking and managed to pretty faithfully adapt the 2nd edition rules into a game. Personally, I don't thinks it's overrated... I almost never hear it being rated.

Also "Curse of the Azure Bonds" is better.
That's good to hear. Actually, GameSpy did a Hall of Fame entry for the game and they said the later Gold Box games got weaker...I disbelieve that, just look at how awesome some of the later SSI games look, at least.

It's pretty darn hard to beat how awesome Phlan is on account of clearing out the old city and for random bar sayings and brawls that you magically survive being trapped in the middle of (also waiting in the bar for the town watch is pretty lol).

Another thing that's great about Pool of Radiance is that they had to go off of original Monster Manual artwork, but they ended up making some of the missions distinct from each other. The graveyard quest seems to predate all the "okay this is the spooky one" missions from other games - and that one is still pretty spooky with zombies and skeletons rushing at you from the mist, and zombies, and crazy voices that tell you not to enter towers. Good times.

The pyramid is another of those very awesome areas from a game - the map is pretty outrageous though, especially with the rock-throw-changes-destination teleporters.

So...hmm, I'd probably say that one's underrated.

[CDiablo]

Generally I fell all the top rated games are usually overrated.

Mario Galaxy: I actually liked Sunshine better. I beat %100 this game but was pretty bored by the end
Metal Gear Solid 2/4: Got bored with them. I can see why people like them but its not for me
Halo\Killzone\Resistance: Average FPS on a console with a lively multiplayer community. Done 1000x over on the PC before the 1st one came out
God Of War: repetitive button masher. Mostly masturbation material for blood hungry teens. Great art direction though. I shouldnt talke about button mashers since I like playing Rampage and most multiplayer beat em ups.
Little Big Planet: Boring platformer with no actual bad guys. Great level editor though. Most online maps suck. Multiplayer is supposed to be fun, but I dont see it.
GTA 4: I dont like GTA's past 2 but 4 was a clear step back from SA.

Probably more, only games that warrant praise are Metroid and (A LOT of people will not agree) Gears Of War.

[kupomogli]

Oh yeah, here's another.

Super Mario 64.

Any Nintendo fanboy you see will praise this awful pos game. This is one of the worst 3d action/adventure games I've played. The levels are small boring as hell collectathons where you run around a small as hell stage exhausting your options on where another star might be until you find them all.

This is the first game I bought for my DS because I only played it on a friends N64 one time(very first world) back when he owned one as I've never owned an N64. This game literally put my to sleep. I had to force myself to play through this game. First time I played I actually quit about halfway through the first set of stages stars for a couple months because of how boring it was.

At the time I hated the DS because I wasted my money on the only game for the system I had except the ability to play GBA games(which I did.) A day or two later I bought Advance Wars and loved it. I played the game to the end later on and haven't touched it since(Mario.) Mario 64 sucks balls.

[Jisho23]

That's good to hear. Actually, GameSpy did a Hall of Fame entry for the game and they said the later Gold Box games got weaker...I disbelieve that, just look at how awesome some of the later SSI games look, at least.

It's pretty darn hard to beat how awesome Phlan is on account of clearing out the old city and for random bar sayings and brawls that you magically survive being trapped in the middle of (also waiting in the bar for the town watch is pretty lol).

Another thing that's great about Pool of Radiance is that they had to go off of original Monster Manual artwork, but they ended up making some of the missions distinct from each other. The graveyard quest seems to predate all the "okay this is the spooky one" missions from other games - and that one is still pretty spooky with zombies and skeletons rushing at you from the mist, and zombies, and crazy voices that tell you not to enter towers. Good times.

The pyramid is another of those very awesome areas from a game - the map is pretty outrageous though, especially with the rock-throw-changes-destination teleporters.

So...hmm, I'd probably say that one's underrated.

Man we could gush all day about goldbox in general... If we made an "underrated" games thread I'd put the whole series on. Its surprising how many rpg gamers are totally unfamiliar with the series (to be fair, I only discovered it a little over 2 years ago... factor I was born in '88).

[j_factor]

Oh yeah, here's another.

Super Mario 64.

Any Nintendo fanboy you see will praise this awful pos game. This is one of the worst 3d action/adventure games I've played. The levels are small boring as hell collectathons where you run around a small as hell stage exhausting your options on where another star might be until you find them all.

This is the first game I bought for my DS because I only played it on a friends N64 one time(very first world) back when he owned one as I've never owned an N64. This game literally put my to sleep. I had to force myself to play through this game. First time I played I actually quit about halfway through the first set of stages stars for a couple months because of how boring it was.

Agreed. It was only popular because it came out at the right time, and had Mario in it.

[Kid Ice]

Don't forget:

Space Invaders
Pac-Man
Ms. Pac-Man
Defender
Robotron
Super Mario Brothers
Super Mario Brothers 3
Metroid
Super Metroid
Metroid Prime
Tetris
Gunstar Heroes
R-Type
Street Fighter 2
Doom
Quake
Quake II
Quake III
Bomberman
Nights Into Dreams
Gran Turismo
Ridge Racer 4
Einhander
Super Monkey Ball

Someone complete this list of every game that someone likes and we can go ahead and wrap up this thread.

[kupomogli]

Don't forget:

Space Invaders

This. Starting a genre does not make it a good game. I remember I specifically mentioned how this game was no good in an early arcade thread. Forgot about this because it's not praised out loud on a regular basis like other games are.

Some later upgraded revisions were released that use the same concept, but don't suck. Space Invaders Extreme for example.

I know your post was naming alot of games that were extremely good and worthy of the praise, but Space Invaders is not one of them.

[77punk]

halo for sure. cant beleive they made that many already and there is no stopping them..

[Cobra Commander]

Don't forget:

Space Invaders
Pac-Man
Ms. Pac-Man
Defender
Robotron
Super Mario Brothers
Super Mario Brothers 3
Metroid
Super Metroid
Metroid Prime
Tetris
Gunstar Heroes
R-Type
Street Fighter 2
Doom
Quake
Quake II
Quake III
Bomberman
Nights Into Dreams
Gran Turismo
Ridge Racer 4
Einhander
Super Monkey Ball

Someone complete this list of every game that someone likes and we can go ahead and wrap up this thread.
Thank you for saying this so that I didn't have to.

[Kid Ice]

halo for sure. cant beleive they made that many already and there is no stopping them..

From Wikipedia:

"Halo 2's sales generated US$125 million on its premiere day, making it the fastest selling United States media product in history up to that time."

The fastest selling MEDIA PRODUCT IN HISTORY.

That's a heavy stat right there.

[Jisho23]

From Wikipedia:

"Halo 2's sales generated US$125 million on its premiere day, making it the fastest selling United States media product in history up to that time."

The fastest selling MEDIA PRODUCT IN HISTORY.

That's a heavy stat right there.

And that somehow means Halo 2 isn't overrated how?

Personally I love Halo (not 2) but I can at least understand why some (many) people despise the game.

[fahlim003]

This. Starting a genre does not make it a good game. I remember I specifically mentioned how this game was no good in an early arcade thread. Forgot about this because it's not praised out loud on a regular basis like other games are.

Some later upgraded revisions were released that use the same concept, but don't suck. Space Invaders Extreme for example.

I know your post was naming alot of games that were extremely good and worthy of the praise, but Space Invaders is not one of them.

This is quotable simply since I'm at complete loss of understanding. Different strokes I guess. The way I interpret this would be without Space Invaders the video game landscape (Atari and western developers aside) is a vastly different place than it is today. Hindsight is always 20/20 and of course why speculate on what never happened. Space Invaders is a highly influential game, but good? Comparing it to other games in the modern day makes it look very archaic and not much fun however, at the time (albeit a year or so after it made it's debut in Japan) it was all there was until the clones showed up, basically making the entire Game Centre/Parlor market in Japan SI'ed. I think it has some charm but it's not my favourite game, nor do I worship it in private, I do however have a great deal of respect for what it (and it's creator Tomohiro Nishikado) did for the industry.


From Wikipedia:

"Halo 2's sales generated US$125 million on its premiere day, making it the fastest selling United States media product in history up to that time."

The fastest selling MEDIA PRODUCT IN HISTORY.

That's a heavy stat right there.

What a shame Halo is more fun than Halo 2 eh. However, again, the popularity is mostly found thanks to online multi-player and that's it.

[Kid Ice]

And that somehow means Halo 2 isn't overrated how?


I didn't say it wasn't overrated. The poster I quoted was wondering why they make so many Halo games.

[Nirvana]

Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Beaten it once, never really went back to it. Great game, but I always hear about it being the greatest game of all time. I think nostalgia plays a big part in this for people.