9 new NES Prototypes NOW with VIDS and PICS !

[EndingBeginning]

HI at all !

First of all: My Name is Francesco and i am from Germany !
I am not a big NES Fan (maybe because i played with the master System back in the days/sorry ), but i really like this system !

Last week i just found some new Prototypes !

Here the List:

- Captain America & the Avenengers
- Ikari Warriors II
- Caveman Ninja
- Castelian
- Alpha Mission
- Zombie Assault
- Fighting Golf
- RamPart
- Solomon´s Key 2
- TV Game Cartridge (Mario Bros game with different Levels, no titel) Pirate ???

My Question to you:

I am thinking of selling the Prototypes ! Does anyone know how much they are worth ?

EDIT:

Here the Link of the first Game VIDEO (TV Game Cartridge; Mario Bros, different Stages )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMkmx-JyyDE&feature=PlayList&p=FC3C550D077839BA&index=0

EDIT:

last 2 protos on ebay !!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180442184887&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180442187339&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

[coreys429]

Pictures?

[BeaglePuss]

Are you sure these are prototypes? From the sound of the last game mentioned, they might just be pirates. It's hard to tell without seeing pictures of the carts. Also, are the games NTSC or PAL? Have you play tested all the games?

[EndingBeginning]

Of course these are Prototypes ! I already opened some of them ! The only one (last one mentioned) should be a pirated game !

[img=http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6086/sdc18112.th.jpg] (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/sdc18112.jpg/)

At the moment i am in spain for holiday .. but i will send you more detailed pictures and videos asap

Best Regards !

[BeaglePuss]

Of course these are Prototypes ! I already opened some of them ! The only one (last one mentioned) should be a pirated game !

[img=http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6086/sdc18112.th.jpg] (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/sdc18112.jpg/)

At the moment i am in spain for holiday .. but i will send you more detailed pictures and videos asap

Best Regards !

One of the games you have listed is "Zombie Assault." In your picture there is a game labeled "Zombie" with the company name "Meldac." Meldac released a game called "Zombie Nation." Does your title screen say Zombie Nation, or Zombie Assault?

Those games are most certainly prototypes. Excellent find. I notice some games are PAL and some are NTSC. Can you list which games are PAL and which are NTSC?

[DreamTR]

Yay Protos

[EndingBeginning]

sure !

Sorry, it was my mistake ! The cartridge says "ZOMBIE " the game is Zombie nation ! Sorry !

Pal games:

Captain america & the avenengers
Fighting Golf

NTSC Games:

- Ikari Warriors II
- Caveman Ninja
- Castelian
- Alpha Mission
- Zombie Nation
- RamPart
- Solomon´s Key 2

I played all of those ! And they are working perfectly ! I am going to make some vids if you are interested ! I am also going to open all cartridges to show you some pics ! As soon as i am back in germany ( at the moment i am on holiday)

How much are they worth ?

[Ryaan1234]

How much are they worth ?
I think it depends on where you plan on selling them. If you try eBay then the games could be potentially removed before you sell them. Selling them here or on another forum could net you more money, and it would be easier to do.

I really have no idea of their value, but they are definitely worth something.

I do know that the sports games, like Fighting Golf, are a lot less desireable than the other games, and are worth much less.

And the burning question:

Where did you find all these prototypes?

[TRM]

And the burning question:

Where did you find all these prototypes?

Haha, I second that question, I am also curious. If you found them in Germany, I might cry.

[mrmark0673]

I think it depends on where you plan on selling them. If you try eBay then the games could be potentially removed before you sell them.

Most proto auctions have been running full term without issue lately, I don't think he'd have much of a problem if he went the EBay route. There are several on there now that have been on for some time.

As far as price, I'd figure between $75-$200 for everything aside from the Solomon's key 2 NTSC proto which should net you significantly more depending on who was interested.

I recently purchased a less than desirable proto in Tiger Heli for less than $80 shipped in a well advertised auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130324344403&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

And I also recently won a higher profile proto in the form of the this Ducktales 2 for $275 shipped in a well publicized auction that ran full term: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110415073681&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

And this Super Spike V'Ball proto has had several price reductions and is still sitting on EBay for $159 BO just to give you an idea of what to expect on low profile protos: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110412079219&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Those are just to give a context to my estimates as my numbers are based around sales of NES protos for the last 2 years. Sometimes you'll see released games go for higher, but unreleased game prices (as in unreleased in a certain format but released elsewhere) can be dependent on who is looking and when. I just recently purchased a Super Turrican NTSC proto for $325 shipped, but that is the only recent sale that I can think of that is similar to your Solomon's Key 2 proto.

You sure the Caveman Ninja cart is NTSC? That's the PAL name and it says "Euro" on the cart.

Very nice finds, cool to see so many protos from so many different companies end up in one place at one time. Likely from a reviewer or magazine maybe?

[Ryaan1234]

Most proto auctions have been running full term without issue lately, I don't think he'd have much of a problem if he went the EBay route. There are several on there now that have been on for some time.

As far as price, I'd figure between $75-$200 for everything aside from the Solomon's key 2 NTSC proto which should net you significantly more depending on who was interested.

I recently purchased a less than desirable proto in Tiger Heli for less than $80 shipped in a well advertised auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130324344403&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

And I also recently won a higher profile proto in the form of the this Ducktales 2 for $275 shipped in a well publicized auction that ran full term: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110415073681&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

And this Super Spike V'Ball proto has had several price reductions and is still sitting on EBay for $159 BO just to give you an idea of what to expect on low profile protos: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110412079219&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Those are just to give a context to my estimates as my numbers are based around sales of NES protos for the last 2 years. Sometimes you'll see released games go for higher, but unreleased game prices (as in unreleased in a certain format but released elsewhere) can be dependent on who is looking and when. I just recently purchased a Super Turrican NTSC proto for $325 shipped, but that is the only recent sale that I can think of that is similar to your Solomon's Key 2 proto.

You sure the Caveman Ninja cart is NTSC? That's the PAL name and it says "Euro" on the cart.

Very nice finds, cool to see so many protos from so many different companies end up in one place at one time. Likely from a reviewer or magazine maybe?
I didn't say they would be removed, I said they could potentially be removed from eBay.

It's been a while since I've been searching eBay for protos so I didn't know if eBay's become more lenient with that.

I actually got a Black Bass proto on the Bay for $12 a few months ago, but it wasn't advertised as a prototype game and the seller didn't know that it was that. eBay used to remove auctions of prototype games

Anyways, I did check out the warp zone and examples of all of his prototypes including, Caveman Ninja (Joe & Mac in the US), Soloman's Key 2 have been found before.
I'm not saying that that makes them less valuable, but there's definitely more than one of them in existance.

[mrmark0673]

They definitely have the potential of getting pulled, but it has occurred much less frequently as of late.

As far as other protos of Caveman Ninja and Solomon's Key 2 NTSC showing up, it shouldn't have a real effect on the value. I would personally pay the same price for a proto regardless of if others were floating around. It could effect value though as whoever owns one would no longer be in the running to purchase another copy, so you'd have less interested parties and possibly a lower sale price because of that.

[EndingBeginning]

hi !

Thanks for all your answers ! I think i am going to sell them on ebay ! But before doing that, i will open the cartridge and take some photos ! I am also going to make some vids !

Caveman NInja is definately the NTSC Version, because its not working on my PAL NES ! So, i had to buy a NTSC NES !!!

[mrmark0673]

You may be better off fielding offers on the forums before you EBay them, save yourself 15% fees. If you don't get an offer you like on some of them, toss them on EBay on hope for the best.

Very cool (and weird) to hear about the Caveman Ninja cart, I definitely didn't see that one coming!

Anyway, again great find and good luck on the sales!

[BeaglePuss]

How much are they worth ?

PM sent.

[DreamTR]

It's funny I am watching "The Wizard" and reading this thread at the same time, LOL

[mrmark0673]

It's funny I am watching "The Wizard" and reading this thread at the same time, LOL

Speaking of The Wizard, when are you going to pull some strings with your contacts and find that lefty power glove? ;)

[DreamTR]

Speaking of The Wizard, when are you going to pull some strings with your contacts and find that lefty power glove? ;)

Heh, all they have are protos, but not even something like that...I'm sure that was only a mail order request or something...I did pick up some stuff lately that was very good, but nothing like that...

LUCAS IS AWESOME WITH THE GLOVE, THAT IS ALL.

[Guy Bramsworth]

This has gotta be like the 3rd time I've seen someone come into the possession of that Caveman Ninja cart. They all have that same label.

[EndingBeginning]

HI from Spain !
At the moment i am on holiday ! THanks for all your pms ! i will answer you as soon as i am back in germany !

Best Regards EB

[TheRedEye]

This has gotta be like the 3rd time I've seen someone come into the possession of that Caveman Ninja cart. They all have that same label.

Yeah, and that's the second or third NTSC Solomon's Key 2 I've seen with that label. If it's the same build that I had at one point, it has some really bad Engrish.

[mrmark0673]

With that same label? I've seen at least 2 Solomon's Key 2 protos with similar labels and several other Tecmo protos with similar labels, but not one exactly like this. I remember a Solomon's Key 2 with full artwork with some color and I've seen another with the same art but in black and white but never one with just the text.

[mrmark0673]

Pictures of the 2 I was referring to:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n223/mrmark0673/UV%20Eraser/SolomonsKey2color.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n223/mrmark0673/UV%20Eraser/SolomonsKey2BandW.jpg

Do you have a picture of the one you had Frank?

[TheRedEye]

Do you have a picture of the one you had Frank?

Maybe on an old hard drive somewhere, but mine looked exactly like the one the OP has, and I have vague memories of another just like it. 90% positive I/we sold it to DreamTR, don't know if he still has it.

[DreamTR]

Yes, I have that same Solomon's Key 2 proto cart...

[EndingBeginning]

you all got PM

Best Regards from spain

[EndingBeginning]

HI from spain again !

i received all zour PMs .. and i will answer as soon as possible!

Thanks again!

[DreamTR]

I was told people are offering $200+ on each proto...who are these people? I need some my way!

[Ryaan1234]

I was told people are offering $200+ on each proto...who are these people? I need some my way!
Especially the Fighting Golf proto. Who in their right mind would offer $200+ for that?
(Maybe a hardcore Lee Trevino fan)

And EndingBeginning, you never told us where you got these game...

[greedostick]

Hey, can you post pictures of the Solomans Key 2? I am curious to see what this game looks like, and may be willing to purchase it if you still have it. DreamTR, is it any fun? I really like the first one.

[EndingBeginning]

HI!

yes .. as soon as i am back at home, i am going to take some pics and vids of all the games !

I bought the games at a used market (dont know how to tell this in english)

and: I received more offers then i expectet ! so i decided to post the protos on ebay, as soon as possible !

i will be back in germany on thursday, so the first vids and pics will be posted !


Hey, can you post pictures of the Solomans Key 2? I am curious to see what this game looks like, and may be willing to purchase it if you still have it. DreamTR, is it any fun? I really like the first one.

[BeaglePuss]

Hey, can you post pictures of the Solomans Key 2? I am curious to see what this game looks like, and may be willing to purchase it if you still have it. DreamTR, is it any fun? I really like the first one.
It's the exact same game as Fire and Ice. Buy that and save yourself $400.

[BeaglePuss]

I was told people are offering $200+ on each proto...who are these people? I need some my way!
I'm interested in buying whatever NTSC prototypes he has for sale. If there are games that you're particularly interested in (Ikair II for example) let me know and I'll back off. It could save you and I some cash in the long run.

[DreamTR]

Beaglepuss, I sent you a PM...

I really should start selling some of mine if they are going to get to $200 apiece from people...

[BeaglePuss]

Beaglepuss, I sent you a PM...

I really should start selling some of mine if they are going to get to $200 apiece from people...
PMs replied to.

I'm always in the market, so if someone has descent titles for $200 apiece, I'm down.

[EndingBeginning]

Here the Link of the first Game VIDEO (TV Game Cartridge; Mario Bros, different Stages )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMkmx-JyyDE&feature=PlayList&p=FC3C550D077839BA&index=0


Sorry for the very bad Quality ...

Enjoy it !!!

[MatthewCallis]

Here the Link of the first Game VIDEO (TV Game Cartridge; Mario Bros, different Stages )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMkmx-JyyDE&feature=PlayList&p=FC3C550D077839BA&index=0


Sorry for the very bad Quality ...

Enjoy it !!!

That's a pirate cart for sure.

[BeaglePuss]

That's a pirate cart for sure.
He had mentioned that this cart was a pirate earlier in the thread. All the other games are most certainly prototypes though.

I can't wait for these to go on sale!

[TRM]

That's a pirate cart for sure.

I know those stages! SMB: LL

[hellfire]

HI at all !

First of all: My Name is Francesco and i am from Germany !
I am not a big NES Fan (maybe because i played with the master System back in the days/sorry ), but i really like this system !

Last week i just found some new Prototypes !

Here the List:

- Captain America & the Avenengers
- Ikari Warriors II
- Caveman Ninja
- Castelian
- Alpha Mission
- Zombie Assault
- Fighting Golf
- RamPart
- Solomon´s Key 2
- TV Game Cartridge (Mario Bros game with different Levels, no titel) Pirate ???

My Question to you:

I am thinking of selling the Prototypes ! Does anyone know how much they are worth ?

EDIT:

Here the Link of the first Game VIDEO (TV Game Cartridge; Mario Bros, different Stages )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMkmx-JyyDE&feature=PlayList&p=FC3C550D077839BA&index=0

captain america wasent released for nes, how much do you want for it?

[EndingBeginning]

HI !

At the moment i don´t know anything about the Prices .. so feel free to make an offer ! ... i am waiting for it :-) !

EB

[Retrogamer72]

captain america wasent released for nes, how much do you want for it?

Yes it was

[BeaglePuss]

captain america wasent released for nes, how much do you want for it?
Two things:
- Captain America was released for the NES.
- If it wasn't, it wouldn't be cheap.

[DreamTR]

Wait a minute, first it was "make offers", then it was "I am going to sell on eBay" now it is "make offers" again?

What's the deal here?

[EndingBeginning]

its like this :

I will going to sell those carts on ebay ! Anyway if somone wants to make an offer: feel free ! As long as this carts aren´t in ebay i can collect some offers !

EB

[EndingBeginning]

I added some pics of the Solomon´s Key 2 and Zombie Nation Carts !

EB

[Volcanon]

Not sure why nobody else didnt say so, but the "pirate" is the japanese SMB2.

[TheRedEye]

Not sure why nobody else didnt say so, but the "pirate" is the japanese SMB2.

Someone already did, on this very page, about seven posts above yours.

[EndingBeginning]

ok !

But it should anyway be a pirate , right ? This game was never released in NTSC , or am i wrong ?

EB

[Ryaan1234]

its like this :

I will going to sell those carts on ebay ! Anyway if somone wants to make an offer: feel free ! As long as this carts aren´t in ebay i can collect some offers !

EB
What's the point of collecting offers when you're going to sell them on eBay anyway?

[EndingBeginning]

maybe there is an offer which i would like and i would sell the games for !

I know .. sometimes it´s hard for me to explain what i want to say ... sorry ....

Sorry again for my bad english !

EB

[TRM]

ok !

But it should anyway be a pirate , right ? This game was never released in NTSC , or am i wrong ?

EB

Yeah it is a pirate. The game was released in NTSC (Famicom is NTSC), but the game was never released on Nintendo, or on Famicom Cartridge format (was only released on disc, officially, I think). So yeah, pirate, but a pirate of a Famicom game that never made it to NES.

[DreamTR]

The highest offers were $200 apiece at least according to him, which means he's probably not going to get more than that apiece on ebay at all, but you never know....

[BeaglePuss]

The highest offers were $200 apiece at least according to him, which means he's probably not going to get more than that apiece on ebay at all, but you never know....
The offer was a little more than that actually. . .

I'm curious to see how these do on the open market. I just won an Archon prototype that was well listed, featured on gamesnipe, and ran the entire course of the auction and it sold for a measly $73.

These could sell really high due to the fact that he's listing multiple prototypes at the same time, or they end around what I paid for Archon.

I would guess that most will end under $100 with the exception of Zombie Nation and Solomon's Key 2. We'll have to wait and see.

[DreamTR]

The offer was a little more than that actually. . .

I'm curious to see how these do on the open market. I just won an Archon prototype that was well listed, featured on gamesnipe, and ran the entire course of the auction and it sold for a measly $73.

These could sell really high due to the fact that he's listing multiple prototypes at the same time, or they end around what I paid for Archon.

I would guess that most will end under $100 with the exception of Zombie Nation and Solomon's Key 2. We'll have to wait and see.


The other problem with Archon is...well, it's Archon...there's like 5 of them out there...and that's about what it goes for....there's very few NES protos worth $75, but that's one of em....

[BeaglePuss]

there's very few NES protos worth $75, but that's one of em....
Oh, I completely disagree. I've purchased numerous prototypes for $75 and less. The reason I think Archon is a good reference point is due to it's relatively low desirability, which I would presume is at least equal to that of Fighting Golf (and possibly Rampart).

[DreamTR]

What the heck ever happened to this guy's protos?

[BeaglePuss]

Funny you should ask:

I just sent payment a few hours ago. I'll be sure to post an update when they're in hand.


What the heck ever happened to this guy's protos?

[hellfire]

Funny you should ask:

I just sent payment a few hours ago. I'll be sure to post an update when they're in hand.

that just made my day lol, I laughed so hard

[Ryaan1234]

Funny you should ask:

I just sent payment a few hours ago. I'll be sure to post an update when they're in hand.

lol.

(I was about to get really angry. I didn't make an offer to this guy because he told me his protos were going on eBay. And I'd rather take my chances there to get a slice of the pie.)

[BeaglePuss]

Um, sorry if there's any confusion, but I really did pay for these titles last night.

The seller stated on numerous occasions that if he received a good enough offer before listing them on eBay then he would sell them. I'm certain that no one would offer higher than the amount I paid.

EB is a good dude and I've enjoyed chatting with him via PM. He still has the PAL titles if anyone else is interested.

[Guy Bramsworth]

I take it you didnt pay much for the Mario 2 Kaiser pirate right? Maybe it's worth around $20-$50 or something, I dunno it's exact rarity, but it's surely nowhere in the price range of protos.

At least we know they're in good hands now since you're the one who bought them ;)

[mrmark0673]

I take it you didnt pay much for the Mario 2 Kaiser pirate right? Maybe it's worth around $20-$50 or something, I dunno it's exact rarity, but it's surely nowhere in the price range of protos.

At least we know they're in good hands now since you're the one who bought them ;)

We didn't purchase the pirate, we're only in the market for NES prototypes. I'm sure you could contact EB and make an offer if you were interested in picking up that one cart.

As BP said, the seller is an excellent guy to deal with and we're very happy that we could come to an agreement for the lot.

[BeaglePuss]

At least we know they're in good hands now since you're the one who bought them ;)
Thanks for the kind words my good man. Like most of our other prototypes, Mark and I plan on leaking these out from time to time as part of our "From Nowhere Productions" monthly free ROM releases. The few that may not see a free release will (at the very least) be backed up on a few different computers to ensure they're preserved.

[DreamTR]

Beagle: Did you get the Ikari II proto?

[BeaglePuss]

The agreement was for all the NTSC games because EB preferred to not break up the lot. Ikari II was one of the games included in the mix as a result.


Beagle: Did you get the Ikari II proto?

[BeaglePuss]

And they have arrived!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/beaglepussband/stupid%20shit/100_1616.jpg

This seller is a great man, and I couldn't be happier with my purchase.

I will update this thread later with all the info I've gotten so far.

[Eightbit Allstar]

And they have arrived!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j204/beaglepussband/stupid%20shit/100_1616.jpg

This seller is a great man, and I couldn't be happier with my purchase.

I will update this thread later with all the info I've gotten so far.

Wow, you really must have a lot of cash to blow.^^;

[mrmark0673]

Wow, you really must have a lot of cash to blow.^^;

Someone who collects classic cars or rare jewels would probably roll over laughing if they read this...

The protos were priced very fairly, we're very, very pleased with the transaction. Besides, if you want to collect one of a kind (or what, like 5 of a kind at most on some of these?) items, you got to be ready to open up the wallet every once in a while :)

BeaglePuss and I will be updating this weekend with some info on each game, we've already found some very cool differences.

[EndingBeginning]

Hi guys again !

Sorry if i wasnt online for a long time !

I have sold finally all NTSC Protos (to Bealepuss) ... and also the pirated Mario lost levels game !!!

the other 2 PAL Protos are currently on ebay ! So if someone is interested here is the link:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180442184887&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180442187339&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

EB

[BeaglePuss]

Buy from this man! He's one of the easiest guys to deal with, and he has great stuff to sell.

EB: You should contact Nikola over at gamesniped to get these featured.

[EndingBeginning]

Many Thanks Beaglepuss !!! I will do this !


EB