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Cornelius
10-22-2009, 09:12 AM
I'm really enjoying this game. It is really satisfying doing the criticals... when I do it right, I can clear whole tunnels of those burrowers with just that. And then if I get cocky and careless, they'll still kick my ass (as happened last night).

My tips so far: 1) For the Red-eye knight as noble he is super super easy. I found it a pain trying to lead him back all the way to that stairway, so I just popped him with cheap soul arrow shots. Eventually I found that at his initial position you can pop him, run away, and then he'll turn around to return to his original position, at which point you can shoot him in the back. This is a lot faster than leading him clear to the stairs.

2) I like taking the right tunnel on 2-2, and then backtracking up through the tunnels. You get the backside of those big bearbugs, and can use any weapon you like (i.e. one you don't care about durability on). Though magic works better.

3) If having trouble getting started, use the Noble. The game is almost easy if you abuse Soul Arrow and aren't afraid to retreat.

I'm a little annoyed that there are so many 'one-chance' events. Crystal Lizards being one example (okay, those are ~4-chance, but whatever). I just did the Dragon God, though, and because I didn't have a pure-white whatchamacallit, I can't get that big-ass sword that is just sitting there tempting me. And from my reading, even on a new game, it might not be an easy condition to meet. I imagine this is just the first of many like this that I'll come across.

Half Japanese
10-22-2009, 01:11 PM
I just did the Dragon God, though, and because I didn't have a pure-white whatchamacallit, I can't get that big-ass sword that is just sitting there tempting me. And from my reading, even on a new game, it might not be an easy condition to meet. I imagine this is just the first of many like this that I'll come across.

Honestly, I wouldn't feel too bad about that. I guess I had the right tendency, as I was able to get it when I fought him, but it's so massive that unless you're a brute who has been leveling up strength exclusively, it's probably not of any use to you. Also, the heavier weapons slow you way down making it harder to both attack and evade when you need to. It just sits in Stockpile Thomas' trunk for the time being, where it'll likely remain for the entire game.

Cornelius
10-22-2009, 01:30 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't feel too bad about that. I guess I had the right tendency, as I was able to get it when I fought him, but it's so massive that unless you're a brute who has been leveling up strength exclusively, it's probably not of any use to you. Also, the heavier weapons slow you way down making it harder to both attack and evade when you need to. It just sits in Stockpile Thomas' trunk for the time being, where it'll likely remain for the entire game.

Oh, I sort of knew it wasn't anything my character would use. I'm not sure when it happened to me, but at some point in the last 10 years I became a 'completionist'. It just bugs me not to have it, even though I wouldn't do anything with it.

Anyway, I'm thinking this game might stick with me a long time, so what seems like a big deal now while I'm just getting started will probably be pretty minor in the end.

robotriot
10-22-2009, 02:11 PM
I got it today, and while I admit it has something that makes me keep coming back to it for a while, I guess in the long run I just will stop playing it. I was unable to get anywhere so far in the first level, I just keep dying. I've also got the feeling I'm becoming worse the more often I play it. I'm really not a great player in general and it starts to become frustrating now.

kupomogli
10-22-2009, 02:48 PM
Well. I died against my first Black Phantom. I was doing so good in 1-3 and then he joined my game and when he happened to join I was right next to a bunch of enemies already so I couldn't really take him on while they were also trying to attack me. He hit me with the advanced fire technique took over half my health and then as I was already next to the edge in a sortof limited movement area, I couldn't do anything other than attempt to heal right where I was and died.

Anyways. Hard mode is getting a bit harder and as for me never using spells, I decided I'd try some out after one of the Black Phantoms I fought and killed. He used the upgraded defense one that you can learn using the Tower Knight's soul. So me at the very very end of the game on hard, finally started using that, and it reduces damage by a ton and lasts for quite a bit of time. I have a crap load of Old Spice and Fresh Spice, so I could just use that while going through the stages, possibly making them even easier than on Normal.

So yeah. I think I'm really good at the game as I'e only died twice against other players and killed far more than that, but I'm also learning things from human players I kill that I've never really thought of trying since I'm not magic oriented on the game. But yeah, I haven't been using my character since I haven't been using support spells.

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Also, Cornelius, Crystal Lizards disappear, but they will always reappear in the exact same places. You just have to give it time in those areas. The areas that they're the tower right before 1-3, at the beginning of 2-1, 2-2, down the elevator in 2-2 have alot of them, before the caves in 2-2, right outside the Old One's room in 3-3. There are others but can't remember exact location.

Just curious. Once I get the Red Stone, anyone want to duel?

Cornelius
10-22-2009, 05:30 PM
Also, Cornelius, Crystal Lizards disappear, but they will always reappear in the exact same places. You just have to give it time in those areas. The areas that they're the tower right before 1-3, at the beginning of 2-1, 2-2, down the elevator in 2-2 have alot of them, before the caves in 2-2, right outside the Old One's room in 3-3. There are others but can't remember exact location.
"time" is not what makes them reappear, as I understand it. Killing demons does. And I think it is only the demons on that stage, though I'm not sure of this yet. So, I believe that means each one can only appear 5 times. This is why the one that drops the chunk of spiderstone in 2-1 is so annoying. That's the only place to reliably get that stone, and you need to kill it every time if you want a certain bow. ... Or so I understand from the reading I've done. I got really lucky and the miner dudes that can drop that chunk of spiderstone gave me 2 or 3 in a row, so I should be set (could be this is a change in the US version drop rate, cause it seems very strange that I got a bunch at once, with a luck of 7, when it is supposedly an extremely rare drop).

BHvrd
10-22-2009, 06:35 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't feel too bad about that. I guess I had the right tendency, as I was able to get it when I fought him, but it's so massive that unless you're a brute who has been leveling up strength exclusively, it's probably not of any use to you. Also, the heavier weapons slow you way down making it harder to both attack and evade when you need to. It just sits in Stockpile Thomas' trunk for the time being, where it'll likely remain for the entire game.

Do not ever degrade the greatness of the Dragon Bone Smasher ever again! You obviously do not know how to use it, even in tight spaces it works.... if you know how. Wield it with two hands and look at your attack power, oh and use it to block, it's as good as having a shield.

Half Japanese
10-22-2009, 07:30 PM
Do not ever degrade the greatness of the Dragon Bone Smasher ever again! You obviously do not know how to use it, even in tight spaces it works.... if you know how. Wield it with two hands and look at your attack power, oh and use it to block, it's as good as having a shield.

I'm just not a fan of heavy-ass equipment in general, and I've been keeping my stats pretty well-rounded so far, so my strength doesn't meet the requirements to use it. I understand that it can/will be good later on, but speaking from what my level was when I got it, it wasn't really doing me any good. Although I should look into two-handing weapons, since I've been using my spear/shield combo for what seems like forever.

BHvrd
10-22-2009, 09:12 PM
I'm just not a fan of heavy-ass equipment in general, and I've been keeping my stats pretty well-rounded so far, so my strength doesn't meet the requirements to use it. I understand that it can/will be good later on, but speaking from what my level was when I got it, it wasn't really doing me any good. Although I should look into two-handing weapons, since I've been using my spear/shield combo for what seems like forever.

Yeah spears are great, no doubting that, but honestly there is hardly an enemy that can live after a double power hit from the bone smasher and when in close corridors just get real close and hit with butt of hilt. I just love the thing so much I had to defend it. :D

Yes it's heavy, yes it takes 30 strength but man is it fun to use. All in all though I probably use my Makoto katana blade with regen ring more.

kupomogli
10-26-2009, 11:22 PM
Beat the game a second time, killed off the woman in black and now have the Red Stone. I also killed off everyone in the Nexus before finishing.

*edit*

Killed five Black Phantoms almost in a row, killed them by myself, didn't need any help from anyone. Two of them were really good, two were okay, the other one just sucked but mainly because of how week his character was.

I then laid down a red stone for someone to challenge me, so I ended up fighting as a black phantom while the other person fought as a regular human. Unfair trade off seeing as I was alive previously. Aside from that, I actually almost killed the person and screwed up by one hit. Then I ended up dying at the end. This person had some really good equipment and was this was a really hard battle.

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Just curious what the best weapons are and where could they be found? Looking for each sword type. Need to try and enhance my play style. I'm great with the weapons I'm using which is just a Heavy Sword and a Straight Sword, but possibly may be better with different ones if I try to use them. Out of the two games I've played through I haven't used anything aside from these two weapon types. I've only experimented with others.

I don't know how very heavy swords would be in online play though. I was thinking of getting good with those if they're worth it. Haven't really tried any Katanas yet either even though they seem longer range and as quick as a straight sword.

Cornelius
10-27-2009, 10:00 AM
quick question: Do the 'hero's souls' (and others) have any use besides adding to your soul count? I've just been hanging on to them.

BHvrd
10-27-2009, 05:15 PM
Just curious what the best weapons are and where could they be found? Looking for each sword type. Need to try and enhance my play style. I'm great with the weapons I'm using which is just a Heavy Sword and a Straight Sword, but possibly may be better with different ones if I try to use them. Out of the two games I've played through I haven't used anything aside from these two weapon types. I've only experimented with others.

Well since you been through twice then I would imagine you have pretty much all spells and miracles, though yellow demon's soul has like 4 uses. Some of the best weapons are made with Demon's Souls like the Northern Regalia which has like equal physical and magic damage. Blueblood Sword, Scraping Spear and Meat Clever seem to be popular as well. Personally I love the Kris Blade alot as it really boosts MP and Makoto Blade with regen ring or adjudicator's shield cause the bleed output is great. Don't forget clever rats ring, that can totally change the tide of a battle....big time. Btw from my testing Insanity Catalyst sucks total monkey balls.


quick question: Do the 'hero's souls' (and others) have any use besides adding to your soul count? I've just been hanging on to them.

None that I know of or have read of. Strategy guide just says to eat them for extra souls, so the answer seems to be a definite no.

lazyhoboguy
10-28-2009, 02:48 AM
I stupidly upgraded my level 7 winged spear to a scraping spear because I assumed it would be better since it was an unique upgrade. WRONG. The attack points is way lower than even like a level 4 or 5 winged spear. It has better durability and can mess up peoples armor, but that doesnt matter at all for single player. I think it would work awesome in online duels though to break peoples armor. So, to get back my level 7 winged spear I spent about 2 hours tracking down tons of sharpstone...

kupomogli
10-28-2009, 04:42 PM
With the Blueblood sword it has 100 attack and 100 magic attack. Does that damage both stack into a physical attack? Meaning that it'd be better than my 168?(not sure,) Long Sword? I still have the standard Long Sword as my best weapon(it's at +10.)

Other than the Knight Sword at +10(not sure if it can even get +10 as Quality Knight Sword stopped at +5,) what's the best straight sword that you can build up?

I might also use some very large swords. I used one and it seems to be a good weapon. It's got amazing knockback if you hit the enemy. If you miss you'll be taking some damage.

lazyhoboguy
10-29-2009, 03:43 PM
With the Blueblood sword it has 100 attack and 100 magic attack. Does that damage both stack into a physical attack? Meaning that it'd be better than my 168?(not sure,) Long Sword? I still have the standard Long Sword as my best weapon(it's at +10.)

Other than the Knight Sword at +10(not sure if it can even get +10 as Quality Knight Sword stopped at +5,) what's the best straight sword that you can build up?

I might also use some very large swords. I used one and it seems to be a good weapon. It's got amazing knockback if you hit the enemy. If you miss you'll be taking some damage.

I had been using a winged spear and battle axe combo for ages. I noticed however that I had this dragon long sword in my stockpile. I tried it out and really like it. It is very light weight but does a lot of damage, plus it also lights your enemies on fire when you use it.

Trebuken
10-29-2009, 06:15 PM
Starting to give up. Fighting the King. Killed all the other demons, etc., except Gnarl. Level 88 and I can only barely scratch the King. Sucks. I think I need some weapon upgrading to have a chance but I am nopt sure I can bear any more grinding. Looks like I'll want the Winged Spear to beat him...close attack weapons are hopeless...

You do not want to fight the King in close combat...

lazyhoboguy
10-29-2009, 08:36 PM
Starting to give up. Fighting the King. Killed all the other demons, etc., except Gnarl. Level 88 and I can only barely scratch the King. Sucks. I think I need some weapon upgrading to have a chance but I am nopt sure I can bear any more grinding. Looks like I'll want the Winged Spear to beat him...close attack weapons are hopeless...

You do not want to fight the King in close combat...

You talking about King Doran that you find in that room after you open it with the key (In the first level)? If so there is a cheap tedious strategy to beat him that works quite well lol. I killed him at about level 30.

BHvrd
10-29-2009, 11:56 PM
You talking about King Doran that you find in that room after you open it with the key (In the first level)? If so there is a cheap tedious strategy to beat him that works quite well lol. I killed him at about level 30.

He's probably talking about The False King. I was also frustrated with this and ended up getting help online. Closest I came to beating him solo was with a Kris Blade in left hand, Talisman of The Beast in right and draining my health to 30% for the Clever Rats Ring to kick in and also wore the Magical Sharpness Ring.

I would throw up Warding which would protect me even at 30% from a couple of hits. I gotta say I was doin MASSIVE DAMAGE with this setup though. I could have killed him in about 20 hits this way but I just couldn't dodge enough and with my health drained would get one shotted.

Regardless Warding seems to be the way to take him down solo and patience. I said screw it and just got two phatoms to help me online though as I was already frustrated.

kupomogli
10-30-2009, 10:32 AM
I don't know what Soul Level I was the first time, but I do know that my Soul Level the second time fighting the false king around 100.

I also had the priest clothes on with the hard leather boots because they gave higher defense while being light armor.

I didn't use any magic the first time and died once. Second time killed him without dying using the Warding spell. Much easier when magic is involved.

While it was extremely stupid of me not to. After finishing all the areas I should have looked up some sortof guide to find out how to get the secret places that I might have missed, which seems like quite a bit minus anything regarding equipment, I'll do so in the third game. I should have done so in the first and second game so that I won't have to go through most likely a second time to gain all this equipment over again, or possibly even a third with combinable equipment.

BHvrd
10-30-2009, 07:19 PM
While it was extremely stupid of me not to. After finishing all the areas I should have looked up some sortof guide to find out how to get the secret places that I might have missed, which seems like quite a bit minus anything regarding equipment, I'll do so in the third game. I should have done so in the first and second game so that I won't have to go through most likely a second time to gain all this equipment over again, or possibly even a third with combinable equipment.

Well to get all the trophies you will need to go through the game a total of four times, considering you got everything possibly with the Demon's Souls. I honestly used the strategy guide as it has a "perfect run" for doing all white/black scenarios in one playthrough which believe it or not is possible, even character tendencies.

There are a couple of shortcuts you could take the guide doesn't mention like using Black Eye Stone online to shift tendencies, regardless it helps to have alot of that stuff at your disposal on NG+ and I recommend a perfect run for anyone doing so, cause there will be plenty of Black Phantoms that did and have stuff you don't.

Lord_Magus
10-30-2009, 08:55 PM
He's probably talking about The False King. I was also frustrated with this and ended up getting help online. Closest I came to beating him solo was with a Kris Blade in left hand, Talisman of The Beast in right and draining my health to 30% for the Clever Rats Ring to kick in and also wore the Magical Sharpness Ring.

I would throw up Warding which would protect me even at 30% from a couple of hits. I gotta say I was doin MASSIVE DAMAGE with this setup though. I could have killed him in about 20 hits this way but I just couldn't dodge enough and with my health drained would get one shotted.

Regardless Warding seems to be the way to take him down solo and patience. I said screw it and just got two phatoms to help me online though as I was already frustrated.

Hmm... I haven't defeated King Doran yet, but when I beat the False King I was just around level 60 or so. I used my trusty Dragon Long Sword+4, and the only spell I used was a fireball one (I can't remember the name of it now), but I did beat him on my second try. Of course, the whole battle was unbelievably intense, and I ended up using around 20 full moon grasses, but it is possible if you are *very* careful and time your dodges very precisely. Needless to say, that was one of the best boss battles I've experienced in a very long time :)

kupomogli
10-30-2009, 10:33 PM
Well to get all the trophies you will need to go through the game a total of four times, considering you got everything possibly with the Demon's Souls. I honestly used the strategy guide as it has a "perfect run" for doing all white/black scenarios in one playthrough which believe it or not is possible, even character tendencies.

There are a couple of shortcuts you could take the guide doesn't mention like using Black Eye Stone online to shift tendencies, regardless it helps to have alot of that stuff at your disposal on NG+ and I recommend a perfect run for anyone doing so, cause there will be plenty of Black Phantoms that did and have stuff you don't.

So killing someone as a Black Phantom gives you different tendencies? I don't have a guide so don't know that.

I actually haven't went to any of the places where you have to have certain tendencies. Can you tell me how you can change your tendency and exactly what areas in which place requires what tendency?

Because yeah, like you said, there are a TON of people who have items that I haven't seen before and I've went through the game three times and killed every person in the game to steal their stuff. Alot of these people that I see are all Black Phantoms. I'm also proud to say that I've won atleast 10+ times one on one against a Black Phantom and only have died twice. I dunno, I just never go and get any Blue Phantoms to back me up, though it would be easier.

BHvrd
10-30-2009, 11:31 PM
So killing someone as a Black Phantom gives you different tendencies? I don't have a guide so don't know that.

I actually haven't went to any of the places where you have to have certain tendencies. Can you tell me how you can change your tendency and exactly what areas in which place requires what tendency?

Because yeah, like you said, there are a TON of people who have items that I haven't seen before and I've went through the game three times and killed every person in the game to steal their stuff. Alot of these people that I see are all Black Phantoms. I'm also proud to say that I've won atleast 10+ times one on one against a Black Phantom and only have died twice. I dunno, I just never go and get any Blue Phantoms to back me up, though it would be easier.

Ha, explaining it all is a very large chore. I followed the guide that came with the deluxe edition so I guess you could say I had it easy that way, but your best bet is http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/.

Yes playing as a Black Phantom can also change tendencies, it's a bit tricky but you can experiment and find out.

OH BTW, you can run black tendencies for free this weekend as Atlus is running a Halloween event, which surprises the hell outta me: http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/10/demons-souls-halloween/

So run the Halloween event in Black and then when it shifts back or you go offline "however it works" just finish up. I really can't believe they are having an event, what a surprise.

Cornelius
10-31-2009, 12:49 AM
So killing someone as a Black Phantom gives you different tendencies? I don't have a guide so don't know that.

I actually haven't went to any of the places where you have to have certain tendencies. Can you tell me how you can change your tendency and exactly what areas in which place requires what tendency?

Because yeah, like you said, there are a TON of people who have items that I haven't seen before and I've went through the game three times and killed every person in the game to steal their stuff. Alot of these people that I see are all Black Phantoms. I'm also proud to say that I've won atleast 10+ times one on one against a Black Phantom and only have died twice. I dunno, I just never go and get any Blue Phantoms to back me up, though it would be easier.
Like Bhvrd said, it is rather complicated to explain all the world tendency stuff. I got my start w/ it from the guide, and that all still works afaik, but there are some other things to consider that you can learn by searching online.

I did just now learn that you can up your Character Tendency (NOT WT, afaik) by defeating BPs. I just started 4-1 for the first time and had 5 BPs invade! I couldn't even progress, really, because they were pretty frequent. The first was pretty good and it was pretty much a stalemate... we both switched between many weapons. I eventually summoned a Blue P, and he went down quickly from my backstab/crit at that point. The rest I killed on my own without too much difficulty. One was clearly overmatched and kept running off trying to get me to follow him into getting hit by Vanguard. It took me several times of him doing this but I finally I caught him from behind before he got away. Pansy.

Anyway, after fending off those 5 BPs, I checked my WT screen to see if the EVENT had started yet (it hadn't), and noticed that my CT was pretty blue-white. Ran up to the Monumental, and snagged my friendship ring. I'd also killed a couple demons during my play tonight (Fool's Idol and Vanguard), so I don't know how much each one bumps up CT.

kupomogli
10-31-2009, 06:02 PM
I don't get off work until 5:45 and then going to a party later on. Hopefully this event lasts for a few days. Those demons that give you the colorless souls. Do they appear in every stage randomly through this event?

Maybe set places so you can grind colorless souls during the event?

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Some fucking event. This is bullshit. I'm not even in Pure Black. I'm in White and it's not Pure White. Did Atlus fuck up and just forget to do it or did they only drop everyones stuff by a certain degree? Regardless, I haven't been in it all night so bullshit if you ask me. I've been in it but just never been to any of those special areas that you need it.

BHvrd
11-01-2009, 12:39 AM
Some fucking event. This is bullshit. I'm not even in Pure Black. I'm in White and it's not Pure White. Did Atlus fuck up and just forget to do it or did they only drop everyones stuff by a certain degree? Regardless, I haven't been in it all night so bullshit if you ask me. I've been in it but just never been to any of those special areas that you need it.

I admit the "event" is quite vague and not at all explained, but the fact that there is an event at all is what surprised me.

If you want to get worlds to pure black you have to quit in the nexus from in-game and reload. Everytime you reload the worlds will go more black. I have actually harvested a ton of rare ores tonight.

Also no, the primeval demons always show up in the same location, as far as if they will still be there after this events over is anyones guess, we'll see. Really it's best to just farm the rare ores. I would leave the demons there "just in case" as usually they are used to shift tendencies.

exit
11-01-2009, 08:34 AM
I've been very slowly pacing myself through the game and beat 2-1 yesterday before going out, that spider boss was a complete pushover, especially when compared to the other things that went on up to that point. Being able to stop anywhere in a level and restart right where I left off really saves the game for me, it's nice being able to play a game for a short period of time and then put it down without having to worry about losing any progress I make.

moycon
11-02-2009, 07:27 PM
I've been really getting into this game (one of the few PS3 games I can say that about)
I pre-ordered the deluxe edition off Amazon. My first choice was to be a magician, after getting seriously pissed and almost putting the game away I took someones advice and started with the royal class. The game is infinately easier now and I love it

lazyhoboguy
11-02-2009, 08:06 PM
I started as a barbarian (melee character). It has probably made things a lot more challenging but I am enjoying it still. I taught my barbarian a little magic too so he can at least do a long range attack sometimes.

Cornelius
11-02-2009, 08:17 PM
I got lucky I guess, and started off with the Royal. I haven't found the game to be all that difficult, really. Well, the first time in a new area is pretty tense and easy to get your butt kicked, but once you know an area and its enemies, it isn't very difficult to adjust your strategy and technique to compensate.

jaekwon15
11-27-2009, 11:29 PM
how rare/limited was the Demon's Souls Deluxe Version? when i picked mine up it was the only copy they ordered for the store (it was a pre-order.) and Atlus discontinued the Deluxe Edition in less than two weeks of its release. so just how "rare" is it really?

Tron 2.0
11-28-2009, 12:54 AM
I've been very slowly pacing myself through the game and beat 2-1 yesterday before going out, that spider boss was a complete pushover, especially when compared to the other things that went on up to that point. Being able to stop anywhere in a level and restart right where I left off really saves the game for me, it's nice being able to play a game for a short period of time and then put it down without having to worry about losing any progress I make.
Being able to play demon's souls at any time then stop to take a break is great.Though i've found out the hard way if you miss a weapon or some item forget it.Since there is no save file to go back to,it means starting over again or finsh the game.I myself i feel stupid for missing the purple flame sheild and that sword for where you fight the dragon god.

kupomogli
11-28-2009, 12:57 AM
Well. It's going for $100+ on Ebay right now. So yeah.

All Atlus' games are so easy to find now days it's pathetic so I didn't think of it becoming a rarity. I bought the Deluxe just so I could sell the extras and ended up getting Demon's Souls much cheaper. I didn't want to take the chance of it not being rare or I would have bought another.

kupomogli
12-21-2009, 03:36 PM
From now to the 12/28 Demon's Souls has a pure white tendency. Looks like I'll be rushing finishing off the last boss on New Game ++ after going to the pure white areas, then rushing through the game and all the pure white areas again hopefully two times to get everything in these areas before it ends.

BHvrd
12-21-2009, 05:16 PM
From now to the 12/28 Demon's Souls has a pure white tendency. Looks like I'll be rushing finishing off the last boss on New Game ++ after going to the pure white areas, then rushing through the game and all the pure white areas again hopefully two times to get everything in these areas before it ends.

Great news considering I got one of the worlds screwed up after the black tendencies event and couldn't get the rare ore. Now I can get it, YAY!

I'll admit, i'm still living on playthrough 2 as i'm just kicking some royal ass as my first playthrough was a perfect run and I got all major items and rings. I love being human form all the time cause there isn't a black phantom that has been able to take me out of the last 50 fights i've had. Running a perfect run on first playthrough and getting soulsucker is HIGHLY recommended.

Try to stay on New Game++ if you can Kupo unless you are after the trophies in a hurry and maybe we can hook up some time and wait for some black phantonms or duel. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-evil-grin-smileys-1036.gif

kupomogli
12-21-2009, 05:40 PM
Try to stay on New Game++ if you can Kupo unless you are after the trophies in a hurry and maybe we can hook up some time and wait for some black phantonms or duel.

Or maybe I should just start a brand new game. I can run through New Game and New Game + much faster than I could run through another New Game ++. That way I can get everything in those areas. I'll keep my NG++ character there, but I have no special weapons but the Blueblood Sword. I didn't know of the Pure Black and Pure White areas and didn't go to any of those.

That way I can do a perfect run and get the best weapons and get back on NG++. On NG++ I've been owning everyone there with just a Long Sword +10 and Black Armor equipment. I like the Long Sword, haven't been able to equip Blueblood Sword and use it properly(not enough magic stats.)

lazyhoboguy
12-22-2009, 07:23 PM
Man, I am really sad. I didn't touch Demon's Souls for 3 weeks because I had finals and did not want to get distracted. I finally get back to it last night, thinking I had a lot of hours left, but after 4 or 5 more hours of play I finished it.

I really miss it lol. I know I can replay it again with slightly stronger enemies, but nothing beats the experience of exploring the new levels and running into the epic bosses for the firs time. I want Demon's Souls 2!

kupomogli
12-22-2009, 09:25 PM
Started a new game on Demon's Souls. So far I've walked through just about every area I've been to like nothing. I haven't played using heavy equipment in awhile so I started as a Knight and then against the Tower Knight I had to actually take all my armor off so I could move better and do more attacks against him. Then went right to the Tower of Latria to get the Wizard Armor and Black Armor. After that going through 2-1 and 2-2 was easy.

Going to get all the White Tendency stuff on Stage 1-1 and then go to Tower of Latria and do the White Tendency stuff there.

Tron 2.0
12-23-2009, 01:06 AM
Took a short break from ds for a while there.I was playing ninja gaiden sigma,but afther i heard about the wt pure white event i figure i give it a go.Wich is good for opening up on some areas of the game i know...that's not the only way.Beside able to push the game to a pure black wt is the other.

Btw right now i'm on a 2+ game run of demon's souls.

BHvrd
12-26-2009, 02:07 AM
Instead of sleeper hit of the year, how about GAME OF THE YEAR! :D

http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/game-of-the-year/index.html?page=2?ttag=mktg_newsletter&tag=nl.e573
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otaku
12-26-2009, 12:24 PM
heard nothing but good about this game rented it and my bro played alot of it said it was good but very difficult and did not recommend buying it. I only played 15-20 minutes (intro videos basically)

heybtbm
12-26-2009, 01:42 PM
Instead of sleeper hit of the year, how about GAME OF THE YEAR! :D

http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/game-of-the-year/index.html?page=2?ttag=mktg_newsletter&tag=nl.e573
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Maybe I should crack open that Limited Edition up on the shelf.

kupomogli
12-26-2009, 09:00 PM
Maybe I should crack open that Limited Edition up on the shelf.

I'd say buy another copy. They don't sell the deluxe edition any longer and you're doing nothing but throwing away around 100 dollars by opening it now.

Like new(so used) copies are going upwards of $100 on Ebay, so either sell the new copy for much more than you paid for it now or wait and hope it increases drastically later on.

heybtbm
12-27-2009, 05:06 PM
I'd say buy another copy. They don't sell the deluxe edition any longer and you're doing nothing but throwing away around 100 dollars by opening it now.

Like new(so used) copies are going upwards of $100 on Ebay, so either sell the new copy for much more than you paid for it now or wait and hope it increases drastically later on.

They have a few copies at the local used game store for $45. Buying a 2nd copy of a game I already own officially takes me into "collector" territory. That's somewhere I didn't think I would ever go. Still, this game sounds too incredible to go unplayed...and yeah, I really don't want to open my Limited copy.

alexkidd2000
01-30-2010, 01:02 PM
Wow. Just wow. I am 41 hours into this masterpiece with only the final archstone to complete. I am really procrastinating because I think I will cry once this game has finished. This has been my favorite game of all time. Only 2 flaws I find that really bug me are that projectile magic work too easily to kill most bosses and that if you summon other players to help you it makes the game far to easy. The bosses cannot handle having multiple targets and die very easily. If fact the difficulty for this game is completely overblown. Sure it is hard, especially at first, but its never unfair and once your soul level and weapons are decent its pretty easy.

kupomogli
01-30-2010, 04:52 PM
Sure it is hard, especially at first, but its never unfair and once your soul level and weapons are decent its pretty easy.

The game really doesn't get hard until you get to new game ++. On new game ++ Most enemies will kill you in two hits, where as some bosses will kill you in one. Using the one defensive spell you can learn with the Tower Knight you'll be able to survive much longer.

Black Phantom battles are a different story altogether. I like to use different spells(including the defense spell,) on those. Always status effect spells. I haven't built a character to rely on magic attack spells. Also I finished new game ++ on level 120-130, which leveling higher doesn't seem to effect anything when it comes to difficulty. Your stats start to level off and a few levels give you nothing.

kupomogli
02-28-2010, 12:51 AM
Since the Black Tendency thing didn't work on Valentine's day, I've been killing people to get Black Tendency.

So anyways. I think there's a glitch with Death Cloud and using the plague on someone. What I've noticed is that the damage stacks when on an opponent. So if they don't use anything to remove the plague, not only do they get the crappy effects like using an item won't work as well as it usually does, but when taking off a certain amount of damage, even after they heal, and you do a large amount of damage again it'll stack the original damage ontop of that current damage.

I dunno, but that's just what I'm thinking. Because one guy I took off a little over half his health while he had the plague on. He then healed himself up but still had plague on and killed him in a single combo that next time.

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And some bullshit too. You know five times in a row I invaded a persons game on Demon's Souls and then the five players after dying must have held power or quit. Because "player's name left game." I mean honestly. What fucking bitches. I guess the connection must have magically went bad, but only after they died.

I'm back alive now after killing someone, but still. I think it's some bullshit that there were five other people I could have brought myself back to life on then killed myself again so I'd be that much closer to pure black.

mezrabad
03-06-2010, 10:46 PM
This game is kicking my buttocks, and yet, I enjoy it!

I think choosing barbarian to start was a brutal mistake, but I couldn't resist playing a female in her undergarments -- and I'm getting what I deserve for that. I think I'm going to start over with a player who has more equipment.

Bothered me to see the notice about the servers only have to stay online for six months after the game's release, after which time (April 6th, 2010), should someone make a "business decision" then: *poof* no more online play. :( NOT that I've seen anything other than blood stains and phantoms.

lazyhoboguy
03-12-2010, 06:40 AM
I started off as a barbarian. You can do quite well in the game as one. I am on NG+ and am level 104 with a barbarian character.

Most Important Advice= Get A shield. Then get a spear.

This means you can always defend against enemy attacks and attack them at the same time. Build up your stamina stats since it means you will be able to strike more times and block more hits before you take damage. A winged spear is the best one to use at the start and it can be upgraded until it does a good amount of damage.

Jisho23
03-12-2010, 10:53 AM
I'm sure everyone by now knows it was nominated at the GDC. It obviously had no chance of winning, but Atlus must be ecstatic.

Cornelius
10-19-2010, 06:48 PM
So, um, anyone playing this lately? I'm nearing platinum and just need 5 more weapons. Not sure I want to slog through the farming involved to get them, though. Anyone want to comment on whether it is better to play through new games +++++ to get the ores I need or just farm for it? Anyone wanna just meet up and let me hold their Fatal weapon?

megasdkirby
10-19-2010, 07:21 PM
After finishing King's Field IV and currently playing Eternal Ring, can someone explain why some consider Demon's Souls a "spiritual predecessor" to King's Field (sometimes in particular to Shadow Tower)?

I would so love to have the LE version of the game, but man is it pricey.

heybtbm
10-19-2010, 07:31 PM
This game can't be that hard if people can finish the whole thing in 54 minutes (http://kotaku.com/5666793/how-to-beat-demons-souls-in-under-an-hour).

Cornelius
10-19-2010, 07:43 PM
I would so love to have the LE version of the game, but man is it pricey.
I got really lucky on this one. I still don't completely know why, but something about the previews on this game made me know I would love it, so I ordered (maybe even pre-ordered, which I never do) the LE version. That guide has been used like crazy, and since I'm careful it has held up really well. Haven't actually looked at the bonus disc at all.


This game can't be that hard if people can finish the whole thing in 54 minutes (http://kotaku.com/5666793/how-to-beat-demons-souls-in-under-an-hour).

I've always contended that this game isn't as hard as it is made out to be. I think today's gamers are overly used to being able to finish games simply by sitting in front of a screen for some prescribed amount of time until it is over. I doubt many people that have played a lot of classics would say this is overly hard.

DuckTalesNES
10-19-2010, 07:48 PM
What is the difference between the "Deluxe Edition" and the "Black Phantom Edition"?

Cornelius
10-19-2010, 07:53 PM
What is the difference between the "Deluxe Edition" and the "Black Phantom Edition"?

The Deluxe was available in NA, the BP was in Europe(?), not sure where, but not NA. That's it AFAIK. But I think if you have one or the other you can only connect to their respective servers. Hopefully I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.

kupomogli
10-19-2010, 08:17 PM
Like others have mentioned the game isn't hard, but man. This is really an impressive speed run. I thought that 4-1 shortcut was good, then 3-1 was kind of eh until he dodge rolled through the arrows.

I only watched the first video.

Cornelius
10-19-2010, 09:06 PM
Yeah, I just finished the first vid, and man, I'd read about those shortcuts, but actually executing them that way is insane.