Uncharted 2 Collector's Edition Announced! But only 200 made...

[FxMercenary]

From Kotaku:

http://kotaku.com/5353130/uncharted-2-collectors-edition-includes-art-book-knife

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/09/thumb160x_fortune.jpg

Introducing the Uncharted 2: Fortune Hunter Edition. It's the game's fancy-pants version, and includes a copy of Uncharted 2, art book, collector's case and a replica of the game's mysterious, ancient artefact. Sounds good. Only, there's a catch.

See, Naughty Dog & Sony want this to be a genuine limited edition deal. Not something anyone plonking down $5 at GameStop can get their hands on. So they're going to be giving them away in competitions on the PlayStation.Blog, the game's multiplayer beta and in PlayStation Home.

Interestingly, we've been told that in addition to the stuff outlined above, the Fortune Hunter Edition will also include codes for special downloads...not sure what those would be, exactly, but they definitely suggest some kind of rare downloadable content. Multiplayer skins/weapons, perhaps?

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Well, looks like some lucky kids are going to get Ebay happy this October!

I for one am unhappy about this, I would have purchased it, because I loved Uncharted.

Thoughts?

[Therealqtip]

I thought only one was made and it was under some guy's seat (a ticket for the game kinda like Willy Wonka) at the E3 showing or whatever

[deltoidsteep]

I thought only one was made and it was under some guy's seat (a ticket for the game kinda like Willy Wonka) at the E3 showing or whatever

That was just a lucky giveaway, there will be other chances to win one.

[Swamperon]

Not to sound rude but where are you getting the number of 200? The article doesn't appear to make any mention of it.

[kupomogli]

Looks like I'm going to be playing that Uncharted 2 Beta(once it opens to the public) alot and I'll start spending some time at Home.

[FxMercenary]

Not to sound rude but where are you getting the number of 200? The article doesn't appear to make any mention of it.

It is mentioned in other articles and thats the number that someone from naughty dog mentioned being produced.

[geelw]

So... what's the real problem here? If you want the game and are a real Uncharted fanatic, go try and nab it on the PSN forums. You have exactly the same chance as everyone else to get one of those 200 copies. If you don't try at all, in the end you can't complain about not getting one, right? Sign up, win and brag here when you get the game. Hell, it's always cool to see a fellow forum member score a big deal freebie like that.

Nice to see a TRUE limited edition version (that yes, you'll need to earn) rather than yet another overproduced "Limited Collector's Edition" that you'll see going for too much money on eBay during the holidays, then see at a greatly reduced price about 3 months later at stores that over ordered them.

It'll be REALLY interesting to see who decides to sell their prize. I'd bet real money that someone at Naughty Dog or SCEA will be keeping an eye on auctions every now and then or one of those uber-fans that didn't get one of the prizes will be sending pissed-off e-mails to both companies when that auction listing goes up at an insane price...

[Swamperon]

It is mentioned in other articles and thats the number that someone from naughty dog mentioned being produced.

Woops! My bad. Just making sure ^^; As others have said, nice to see a proper limited edition. Can't wait to see what this starts going for on ebay!

[swlovinist]

I got to see the Limited Edition under glass at PAX in person. Looks awsome!

[NayusDante]

If you're going to make a limited edition of something, make it available to the people that want it and would actually appreciate it. Manufacturing a rarity is a slap in the face of any fanbase. It's not exclusive, it's manipulation. See also "Mega Man 9 Press Kit."

[BHvrd]

Sony has been gearing towards these "game to win" type experiences and I absolutely fucking love it!

I've been trying to obtain many rare collectible in Home by achieving unbelievably high scores on some of the games and I gotta say , it has got me motivated!

Talk about making a gamer feel like a gamer. Awesome stuff Sony has up their sleeves.

[The 1 2 P]

It's not exclusive, it's manipulation. See also "Mega Man 9 Press Kit."

Thats exactly what I was thinking. Theres nothing wrong with legit limited editions(anything under 10,000 copies) but 200? The only thing this will do is make ebay scalpers very rich, while dissappointing many who would have gladly paid full retail for it. FAIL.

[chicnstu]

It's going to be interesting to see which game gets more Game of the Year awards, Uncharted 2 or Modern Warfare 2. Of course, since there are more 360 owners right now, you'll see more players putting MW2 as the best of the year. But I guess they don't matter, the reviewers that are able to play both systems do.

I don't play many shooters so I probably suck at them but I'm excited for Uncharted 2 so I'll try to win one of these.

[Bojay1997]

Sony has been gearing towards these "game to win" type experiences and I absolutely fucking love it!

I've been trying to obtain many rare collectible in Home by achieving unbelievably high scores on some of the games and I gotta say , it has got me motivated!

Talk about making a gamer feel like a gamer. Awesome stuff Sony has up their sleeves.

Are you gonna feel motivated when you don't win over and over again? The problem I have with this is that there is really no reason to limit the collector's edition to just 200 units or to prevent those of us who are actual fans of the game from having a fair shot at purchasing one. I don't know about anyone else, but I have a full time job, a family, volunteer activities and lots of responsibilities which make it very hard for me to spend hours and hours on Home or any other competition that could possibly lead to me winning one of these. I'm also not the world's greatest video game player in the sense that I'm not going ever beat the leading scores in multiplayer against the best players in the world. That doesn't make me less of a fan or less deserving of having an opportunity to buy this. I could understand if there was some physical limitation preventing them from making lots of these, but there really isn't. As such, I consider this a slap in the face and a disappointment.

[BHvrd]

Are you gonna feel motivated when you don't win over and over again? The problem I have with this is that there is really no reason to limit the collector's edition to just 200 units or to prevent those of us who are actual fans of the game from having a fair shot at purchasing one. I don't know about anyone else, but I have a full time job, a family, volunteer activities and lots of responsibilities which make it very hard for me to spend hours and hours on Home or any other competition that could possibly lead to me winning one of these. I'm also not the world's greatest video game player in the sense that I'm not going ever beat the leading scores in multiplayer against the best players in the world. That doesn't make me less of a fan or less deserving of having an opportunity to buy this. I could understand if there was some physical limitation preventing them from making lots of these, but there really isn't. As such, I consider this a slap in the face and a disappointment.

Cry me a fucking river!

What happened when you went to the arcades and someone else had the high score on Double Dragon?

You probably called them nerds or went home and cried to your mommy.

[Bojay1997]

Cry me a fucking river!

What happened when you went to the arcades and someone else had the high score on Double Dragon?

You probably called them nerds or went home and cried to your mommy.

How is that relevant in any way? What does being able to purchase a collector's edition of a game have to do with someone's skill at playing it? Should disabled people or older people not be allowed to own the collector's edition of the game simply because some of them may not have the same dexterity to play the game as a 16 year old unemployed high school dropout? Give me a break. Please come back on the board the day after you lose every single competition for this game and we can compare notes on who is the bigger loser.

[Ed Oscuro]

Everybody will be able to buy this LE. Got money? How about an eBay account?

Anyhow, it's not like you can find stone knives just layin' around or nothin'.

First the game will have to prove it's good enough to get for the LE to be of any interest, of course.

[BHvrd]

How is that relevant in any way? What does being able to purchase a collector's edition of a game have to do with someone's skill at playing it? Should disabled people or older people not be allowed to own the collector's edition of the game simply because some of them may not have the same dexterity to play the game as a 16 year old unemployed high school dropout? Give me a break. Please come back on the board the day after you lose every single competition for this game and we can compare notes on who is the bigger loser.

I don't have a problem with losing at trying this. I also don't expect a Heisman Trophy or Super Bowl Ring for watching football. I mean I don't sit there and say how unfair it is that they spend all their time winning yet I get nothing.

Fact is people are getting something here for paying nothing, it's competition and how you can possibly bitch and moan about that is beyond me, seriously. Making it the ultimate collectors edition.

I'm sorry but i'm a gamer first and a collector second, I see nothing but fun to be had from this. Oh noes if I don't win, but it will be fun trying.

[TonyTheTiger]

So let me get this straight.

Publisher produces a small number of copies = "WTF? Now we can't get one without paying high Ebay prices! This sucks!"

Publisher produces a large number of copies = "WTF? Now my copy is worthless so I can't get shit for it on Ebay! This sucks!"

Does that about sum up the rule of limited editions?

[chicnstu]

So let me get this straight.

Publisher produces a small number of copies = "WTF? Now we can't get one without paying high Ebay prices! This sucks!"

Publisher produces a large number of copies = "WTF? Now my copy is worthless so I can't get shit for it on Ebay! This sucks!"

Does that about sum up the rule of limited editions?

If you are thinking of the overall average reaction each time, yes that's correct. But if you are considering that the group of complainers/supporters is made up of individuals with their own opinion then you are wrong of course.

Personally, if this CE was about $70 I would have gotten it because the game seems great. But to me it doesn't matter, now I only have to pay $60 and it will fit on my shelf easier.

[ScourDX]

Is that knife real metal knife or some cheap plastic? If it is cheap plastic, then getting it will be pointless. It would be stupid to spend $500 on ebay for a game that cost $50 to make.

[TonyTheTiger]

If you are thinking of the overall average reaction each time, yes that's correct. But if you are considering that the group of complainers/supporters is made up of individuals with their own opinion then you are wrong of course.

It just seems oddly contradictory to me. If this sucks because lots of people won't be able to get one then why does the Halo 3 Legendary Edition suck? It's obvious people say the Legendary Edition sucks mostly because it devalued so much since there's plenty available.

It sounds to me that people generally want to have it both ways. On one hand, they want limited editions to be available enough so they don't have to pay inflated Ebay prices. But, on the other hand, they want their limited editions to be rare enough so that if they do decide to sell them they can benefit from inflated Ebay prices or at least have the peace of mind that they own something "valuable." If that's the case, what qualifies as a "proper" limited print run? 5,000? 10,000?

[Bojay1997]

It just seems oddly contradictory to me. If this sucks because lots of people won't be able to get one then why does the Halo 3 Legendary Edition suck? It's obvious people say the Legendary Edition sucks mostly because it devalued so much since there's plenty available.

It sounds to me that people generally want to have it both ways. On one hand, they want limited editions to be available enough so they don't have to pay inflated Ebay prices. But, on the other hand, they want their limited editions to be rare enough so that if they do decide to sell them they can benefit from inflated Ebay prices or at least have the peace of mind that they own something "valuable." If that's the case, what qualifies as a reasonable print run? 5,000? 10,000?

Actually, I don't want it both ways. As far as I'm concerned, every limited edition should be handled the same way. You take pre-orders either through retailers or via website and allow as many people as want to pre-order it the ability to buy one up until the day of release. If 500 end up being sold or 500,000, I could care less. As a gamer and collector, I just like the extras like art books and nicer cases. I really could care less about resale value.

[TonyTheTiger]

I'm not going to make personal accusations against anybody in particular. But it's painfully obvious after so many years of playing this song and dance that the words "limited edition" don't follow any standard. Sometimes it seems that the "limited edition" of a game is more common than the regular version. We can go back and forth over whether or not there should be some sort of standard but "limited edition" has been the new catch phrase for the last few years now and it doesn't look like it's going to go away anytime soon. And, like "blast processing," when something becomes a catch phrase it loses most of its meaning if it had any at all to begin with.

But, to be fair, I've yet to see one person say something positive about the Halo 3 LE. And not one of the criticisms seem to be about the quality of the product. It's all levied against the fact that the damn thing is just too common. "I paid $150 for this thing and now you can't give them away." My initial reaction to that is, "So you expected to profit off of it?" Because, as far as I can tell, there's no reason to buy something and then complain about its subsequent value (or lack thereof) unless you expected to sell it sometime down the line. If you bought it because you thought it was cool then you still have it to appreciate. The future value should, in theory, not come into play at that point since the value has already been internalized.

So forgive me for immediately thinking of that situation when reading through this thread. This is, for all intents and purposes, the exact opposite of the Halo 3 debacle yet it garners the same angry reaction.

Besides, not every special edition is really meant for the general market. The Mega Man 9 Press Kit is exactly one of those things. We're not talking about something made for sale at GameStop. It wasn't even meant to be sold at all. They were giveaways to members of the press. It was literally a "press kit." Most games have them. It just so happens this one was a bit more clever and when it was revealed people went crazy and immediately wanted it. I was one of them. Capcom didn't have to make them available at all but they put about 1,000 together (far higher than the initially suggested 200) to fill all the orders they got within a matter of minutes.

In other words, not every situation has to be "fair." What you're basically asking for is that the publisher not make any at all if they are unable (or just unwilling) to make enough for everybody who wants one. This isn't second grade. You can chew gum without bringing enough for the entire class.

[Bojay1997]

I'm not going to make personal accusations against anybody in particular. But it's painfully obvious after so many years of playing this song and dance that the words "limited edition" don't follow any standard. Sometimes it seems that the "limited edition" of a game is more common than the regular version. We can go back and forth over whether or not there should be some sort of standard but "limited edition" has been the new catch phrase for the last few years now and it doesn't look like it's going to go away anytime soon. And, like "blast processing," when something becomes a catch phrase it loses most of its meaning if it had any at all to begin with.

But, to be fair, I've yet to see one person say something positive about the Halo 3 LE. And not one of the criticisms seem to be about the quality of the product. It's all levied against the fact that the damn thing is just too common. "I paid $150 for this thing and now you can't give them away." My initial reaction to that is, "So you expected to profit off of it?" Because, as far as I can tell, there's no reason to buy something and then complain about its subsequent value (or lack thereof) unless you expected to sell it sometime down the line. If you bought it because you thought it was cool then you still have it to appreciate. The future value should, in theory, not come into play at that point since the value has already been internalized.

So forgive me for immediately thinking of that situation when reading through this thread. This is, for all intents and purposes, the exact opposite of the Halo 3 debacle yet it garners the same angry reaction.

Besides, not every special edition is really meant for the general market. The Mega Man 9 Press Kit is exactly one of those things. We're not talking about something made for sale at GameStop. It wasn't even meant to be sold at all. They were giveaways to members of the press. It was literally a "press kit." Most games have them. It just so happens this one was a bit more clever and when it was revealed people went crazy and immediately wanted it. I was one of them. Capcom didn't have to make them available at all but they put about 1,000 together (far higher than the initially suggested 200) to fill all the orders they got within a matter of minutes.

In other words, not every situation has to be "fair." What you're basically asking for is that the publisher not make any at all if they are unable (or just unwilling) to make enough for everybody who wants one. This isn't second grade. You can chew gum without bringing enough for the entire class.

Actually, that's exactly what I expect and I don't think it's unreasonable at all. I'm a consumer and so are millions of other people who buy games. As such, when I perceive that a publisher or developer is doing something I don't agree with, I have a tool to punish them. It's called not buying their game. They need me and the millions of other people who buy their product and keep them in business. I know the fact that I'm not going to buy this game at launch now isn't going to hurt them much, but I suspect that the anger this situation is going to generate, especially after they spent months jerking us around on their forums asking what we would want to see in a limited edition is going to bite them where it hurts.

I agree with you on the Capcom situation, but Capcom didn't jerk anyone around asking for their input and holding out the promise of something they wouldn't then deliver and the Mega Man 9 kit was specifically not meant to be a consumer item. This clearly is a consumer oriented item and could easily be mass produced. They just decided that they aren't going to do it. That rubs me the wrong way.

[TonyTheTiger]

It doesn't sound like this is going to be sold in any capacity. Sounds like a prize to me. So what's the problem? If anything, this sounds more like the NWC '90 competition where the winners won a special game. Is that "fair" to people who aren't as good at Tetris? Not a chance. But these kinds of things don't have to be fair. You could choose to not support Nintendo for that trespass but...really?

But even if this were going to be sold, you'll have to forgive me but what you're saying sounds awfully selfish. "Either make enough so I can have one or don't make any at all." So, in other words, if I can't have it for less than Ebay prices, nobody should have it.

[Bojay1997]

It doesn't sound like this is going to be sold in any capacity. Sounds like a prize to me. So what's the problem? If anything, this sounds more like the NWC '90 competition where the winners won a special game. Is that "fair" to people who aren't as good at Tetris? Not a chance. But these kinds of things don't have to be fair. You could choose to not support Nintendo for that trespass but...really?

But even if this were going to be sold, you'll have to forgive me but what you're saying sounds awfully selfish. "Either make enough so I can have one or don't make any at all." So, in other words, if I can't have it for less than Ebay prices, nobody should have it.

That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that if you're going to make a limited edition of a game and you spend months posting on your forum about how you really want to give the fans what they want in the limited edition and you'd like their input, then actually deliver on that representation by giving everyone who wants one and is willing to pay for it the chance to buy one. That's how a free market is supposed to work. Ebay prices don't benefit the publisher or developer in any way, so what would that have to do with the analysis?

[TonyTheTiger]

Technically, everybody does have the chance to buy one.

Ebay prices come into play because it is the great equalizer in all of this. Thanks to Ebay if you want something badly enough you can generally find it. It might cost a pretty penny but it is available. I don't necessarily think that a publisher has the responsibility to take active steps to save people the trouble of going to Ebay, even if they do ask for input. So it would be ok if they did this exact same thing but didn't ask for input and ended up putting out a worse item as a result?

But none of this has any relevance. This doesn't seem to be "for sale" in the first place. It's "for win" so to speak. So, again, what's the problem? Contest prizes are often in limited supply.

My point is that nobody owes anybody anything. I want Panzer Dragoon Saga for less than $200 but Sega doesn't owe me a reprint and Ebayers don't owe me a price drop.

Let me ask you something. What if they printed 5,000 copies but charged $400 for them? The end result could potentially be the same. Lots of people hoping to get one but now unable to. But would Naughty Dog then owe these people a discount if they could find 5,000 other people able and willing to pay the price?

It sounds like your big problem is that it appears Naughty Dog led people on. They made them think it would be a standard special edition type thing that they could preorder at GameStop and then pulled a fast one. But if all they said was "what would you like to see in a special edition?" then I don't understand why that question automatically means they have to provide plenty of copies. If they had somehow told people they'd be able to buy one and then reneged on that promise then you'd have a point. But all I'm seeing is a bunch of people who assumed it would be plentiful and now that it's revealed that it won't be these people are crying foul.

[BHvrd]

Sony is investing in the community aspect of it. What you get is the excitement of the competition and the experience which will only further peoples interest long after they have bought some "special edition" that has a much shorter term value and will be discarded months later.

This is creating an event, something Sony is hard at work trying to accomplish on a very large scale. Incorporating many gamers interests into one and having them come together and have a great time.

They are investing in gamers not in stagnant sales that are unpredictable where one mistake costs them millions. They are trying to create a fresh environment that supports itself and supports creativity through interaction and in turns gets them what they need "money" and what we want "more personalized gaming".

Im sorry but i'm very opinionated on this subject as I feel community in gaming is essential and very important to gaming as a whole and future of it being viable entertainment and then some. The reason I went to arcades years ago wasn't just for the games but the social aspect and home gaming did away with them so it's something that is very needed imo to bring back the excitement of gaming in general.

We will just have to agree to disagree. This is a fantastic event imo.

[ShinGundam]

Real size ?!
http://i28.tinypic.com/ab5k60.jpg

[carlcarlson]

Is that knife real metal knife or some cheap plastic? If it is cheap plastic, then getting it will be pointless. It would be stupid to spend $500 on ebay for a game that cost $50 to make.

I can't imagine them giving out a weapon, so I would assume it's plastic, or perhaps some other material that can't be sharpened.

[Ed Oscuro]

What I'm saying is that if you're going to make a limited edition of a game and you spend months posting on your forum about how you really want to give the fans what they want in the limited edition and you'd like their input, then actually deliver on that representation by giving everyone who wants one and is willing to pay for it the chance to buy one. That's how a free market is supposed to work.
Actually, all the free market does is reward or punish players as individual participants (buyers) get the items they want, avoiding those they don't.

More importantly, if the idea sparks a revolt then they won't do it again. I think it's great they're actually making something better than a broken bobble or a plastic batarang. If some individual user DO NOT WANTs it, then their recourse is complaints and boycotting, obviously.

I can't imagine them giving out a weapon, so I would assume it's plastic, or perhaps some other material that can't be sharpened.
This wouldn't be the first time something metal and big was given out as a gaming prize (Swordquest games hmm), and I imagine knives have been given out. Besides, what kind of an edition limited to 200 includes a plastic knife?

[kupomogli]

Maybe someone over the age of 18 has to accept the prize? That's how alot of contests go anyways. If the person is younger than 18 they have to designate a guardian to receive the prize for them.

[Ed Oscuro]

Thank goodness we have a tactical solution to a an imaginary problem, courtesy of Digital Press Forums.

It would be good fun to see some kid cutting with that thing though. D:

[Bojay1997]

Technically, everybody does have the chance to buy one.

Ebay prices come into play because it is the great equalizer in all of this. Thanks to Ebay if you want something badly enough you can generally find it. It might cost a pretty penny but it is available. I don't necessarily think that a publisher has the responsibility to take active steps to save people the trouble of going to Ebay, even if they do ask for input. So it would be ok if they did this exact same thing but didn't ask for input and ended up putting out a worse item as a result?

But none of this has any relevance. This doesn't seem to be "for sale" in the first place. It's "for win" so to speak. So, again, what's the problem? Contest prizes are often in limited supply.

My point is that nobody owes anybody anything. I want Panzer Dragoon Saga for less than $200 but Sega doesn't owe me a reprint and Ebayers don't owe me a price drop.

Let me ask you something. What if they printed 5,000 copies but charged $400 for them? The end result could potentially be the same. Lots of people hoping to get one but now unable to. But would Naughty Dog then owe these people a discount if they could find 5,000 other people able and willing to pay the price?

It sounds like your big problem is that it appears Naughty Dog led people on. They made them think it would be a standard special edition type thing that they could preorder at GameStop and then pulled a fast one. But if all they said was "what would you like to see in a special edition?" then I don't understand why that question automatically means they have to provide plenty of copies. If they had somehow told people they'd be able to buy one and then reneged on that promise then you'd have a point. But all I'm seeing is a bunch of people who assumed it would be plentiful and now that it's revealed that it won't be these people are crying foul.

Again, I don't understand what Panzer Dragoon has to do with this. Sega advertised the game for months and made it clear that you needed to pre-order to get one. I bit the bullet and pre-ordered it along with HOTD and Shining Force III and Burning Rangers. So, I got one and so did thousands of other people. Heck, Sega even did a reprint a month or so later and doubled the amount of copies out there. The point is they made it available and didn't require you to compete in some contest.

If Naughty Dog actually listed the games on Ebay and let the market decide the price, I would have no problem with it. That's not what is going to happen, however.

If they printed 5,000 and charged $400 each, I probably wouldn't buy it, simply because the contents aren't worth $400 to me. I would at least not have a complaint that I didn't have the opportunity to buy one and neither would anyone else.

[TonyTheTiger]

So you think you have a right to buy every item a publisher makes? I guess Nintendo really screwed you big time with that NWC competition way back when. I fail to see anything wrong with asking people what they like and then turning the feedback into a contest prize. No deception, no sleazy business. No matter how many times you explain your distaste it keeps coming across as sour grapes that you can't hop onto a website and place an order for one. And the necessary implication from what you've been saying is that they should either make enough so that you can place an order or not make any at all, thus depriving the item from anybody who would have won it. Do you not see why that sounds selfish?

[kupomogli]

To someone who actually wins them, there's less of a chance that these people are going to sell them. The majority of the people playing to win them are going to be fans of the specific game or fans of Sony themselves. So Sony is sure it's going to be opened and used or kept by specific fans. Sony doesn't have to hope some Ebay seller doesn't get them all and gouges the hell out of everyone who wants a copy.

So basically. It's a prize for those who show their loyalty pretty much. Getting more people interested in the product by having an open beta, trying to win, and even if they don't they had a fun experience(possibly.) This is the reason I think it's there to begin with. They're trying to attract more people.

[eskobar]

Again, I don't understand what Panzer Dragoon has to do with this. Sega advertised the game for months and made it clear that you needed to pre-order to get one. I bit the bullet and pre-ordered it along with HOTD and Shining Force III and Burning Rangers. So, I got one and so did thousands of other people. Heck, Sega even did a reprint a month or so later and doubled the amount of copies out there. The point is they made it available and didn't require you to compete in some contest.

If Naughty Dog actually listed the games on Ebay and let the market decide the price, I would have no problem with it. That's not what is going to happen, however.

If they printed 5,000 and charged $400 each, I probably wouldn't buy it, simply because the contents aren't worth $400 to me. I would at least not have a complaint that I didn't have the opportunity to buy one and neither would anyone else.

Get over it, Man !!

You aren't gonna get one complaining in the DP forum, invest this time on trying to get one of the 200 LE.

IMHO real limited editions are AWESOME and the way they are giving it away will help to get a lot of free press / hype on the game, which is great since the game looks amazing.

[The 1 2 P]

To someone who actually wins them, there's less of a chance that these people are going to sell them. The majority of the people playing to win them are going to be fans of the specific game or fans of Sony themselves.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I bet that's what Capcom thought about their Mega Man 9 press kits. And I bet thats what Rockstar thought about their "key to the city" trophy awarded to those who earned 100% completion in GTA IV.

But let's play make-believe and pretend you could be correct. Let's say 190 of the 200 winners plan to keep their copies of the limited edition Uncharted 2. It will only take one look on ebay at what they can get for their copy and then, instead of having 10 copies sold on ebay, you'll have 100 copies.

You'd have to be quite foolish to think the majority of people playing to win these have no intention of selling them. I bet in your make believe world pc players don't play all day farming for gold just to end up selling it to players who have less time to farm on their own. Same thing for people who got to level 40-50 in Halo 2/Halo 3 and ended up selling those accounts. You must think they got bored or something, but in reality they were getting to that level so they could sell them.

Again, I have no problem with legit limited editions. They are much better than limited editions that are more numerous than the regular edition(Jade Empire comes to mind). But they really should give consumers who want this a better chance at acquiring it besides maxing out their ebay account. I think 2,000-10,000 is a nice number for a limited edition. But Sony is going to do what they want to do because apparently they didn't learn the lesson that Capcom learned from the Mega Man 9 press kits. There's most likely going to be some fan backlash over this once it's released but I'm sure it will all subside right before the next company announces their special edition will be limited to 200 copies as well.

[TonyTheTiger]

The only thing Capcom "learned" was that a shit load of people wanted an item that was meant to be a press only thing. That doesn't mean they're obligated to provide ample supply. They weren't obligated to provide any. They saw there was interest and so produced a small number. The lesson they learned was that their ordering system was screwy which resulted in far more orders than they expected. They did, however, manage to meet them all. It took them a little while but they did it. So what's the problem? Who got screwed?

If Naughty Dog were to take orders for this thing and then started to cancel a bunch because they took too many, that would be wrong. But what they're doing is distributing a prize. In fact, 200 is a large number for a contest like this. They could just as easily have put together some super awesome set and said "One Grand Prize Winner: This big ass monstrosity of a limited edition." "Ten Second Prize Winners: A trip to California." "30 Third Prize Winners: A copy of the game." "100 Fourth Prize Winners: A Naughty Dog T-shirt."

Newsflash: Anything with enough demand and not enough supply will end up on Ebay. It happened with the Xbox 360, it happened with the PS3, it happened with the Wii, it happened with the MadCatz Street Fighter IV Tournament Stick, it happens with every single Super Bowl, and so on and so forth.

Ebay didn't create this kind of stuff. All it did was bring it out in the open. The "hot toy" phenomenon is far older than the internet, let alone Ebay. Just because people who had the luck or forethought to get said item now have an outlet to turn a profit that doesn't involve standing outside of a Toys R Us going "pssst!" at passers by doesn't mean that publishers have the responsibility (or even owe the courtesy) to tailor their behavior accordingly. The only thing Ebay changed was that now with the click of a button we can see the average going rate of any hot item.

This is all just the blame game. "Damn those Ebay scalpers! Keeping that stuff out of my hands!" "Damn those publishers! Distributing Ebay bait like that...which keeps that stuff out of my hands!"

It's a prize. If you win you win. If you lose you lose. If you lose and want the thing badly enough, pay the going rate on Ebay. If you can't afford the going rate or can't justify the price, then what do you want me to say? I can't afford a BMW.

[chicnstu]

The complainers may get their way:

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2009/09/08/uk-gets-uncharted-2-special-edition-you-can-actually-buy/

It's coming to the UK (no U.S. announcement yet) and you don't get a toy knife but at least you can buy a special edition. So here's the CE Bojay claims Naughty Dog acted like they were making for the fans, so his point works. And BHvrd and TTT's point about this being a limited contest like any other works. Everyone happy?

[Ed Oscuro]

Everyone happy?
NO! I won't be happy until they send me one for free, and I want free shipping too. *crosses arms and sits down heavily*

[jajaja]

Ah, only 200 copies are made of the Uncharted 2 Limited Edition? That is pretty limited indeed. Kinda suck that they make it so limited if many people want to buy it, but on the other hand, the more limited it is, the more collectable it will be, at least in my opinion :)



The complainers may get their way:

http://playstationlifestyle.net/2009/09/08/uk-gets-uncharted-2-special-edition-you-can-actually-buy/

It's coming to the UK (no U.S. announcement yet) and you don't get a toy knife but at least you can buy a special edition. So here's the CE Bojay claims Naughty Dog acted like they were making for the fans, so his point works. And BHvrd and TTT's point about this being a limited contest like any other works. Everyone happy?
Nice to hear that there is another limited/special edition coming at least :) I still want to get my hands on that other limited edition that they are only making 200 copies of though :)

EDIT: Oh, so this limited edition is only available through a contest? Then i think that it makes sense that it is pretty limited.

[BHvrd]

NO! I won't be happy until they send me one for free, and I want free shipping too. *crosses arms and sits down heavily*

YEAH BOOOOI!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KCcb6Da-GUM/SGXj41IuprI/AAAAAAAAAgw/mNvinoC2_jQ/s400/OriginalManBaby.jpg

[b0ub0u]

You guys realize that this is a PRIZE? And buying the regular game will be the exact same experience.

I thing Naughty Dog did the right thing here, this is really a limited edition... I don't see the issue here. Some people are just bitching because they won't be able to find it or whatever. Remember that having a hard time finding something is part of the collector's experience.

Just my 2 cents.

[BHvrd]

Was told today that in fact the knife is real as can be, not a replica. At least that was the one showed at the convention.

Anyone seen the new multiplayer vid? Game is looking like a sweet mix of Metal Gear Online and Lost Planet, looks fun as shit.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ice-caves-uncharted-2/56028

[TonyTheTiger]

Hm. I'm tempted to send this info to Jack Thompson just to enjoy the fallout that occurs when he goes on an absolute rampage over a video game being packaged with a real weapon.

Ain't I a stinker? :p