Perfect Dark or Goldeneye

[houstonlibrarian]

Which was the better game to play with a friend? I loved Goldeneye's multi-player stages, where you could go around shooting each other, but something about the collaborative effort in Perfect Dark...

[jb143]

I always liked Perfect Dark's multiplayer better. There's more to do, more varied weapons(Farsight!), and the control is a bit better. Also, aren't some of Goldeneye's multiplayer levels included?

I used to always play with my roommate, he had it connected to 2 TV's and we'd each throw a towel over the half showing the other players screen so we couldn't cheatLOL

[vivaeljason]

For playing with friends, it's got to be Goldeneye. Nothing ever beat the late night gaming sessions where we would all sit around trying to pick each other off with sniper rifles (or my favorite, mines).

[udisi]

imo, Perfect Dark was just a better version of goldeneye. Same Engine, same type of gameplay....PD just had better weapons, you could save player stats, bigger maps, etc.

[ryborg]

PD has better weapons, but Goldeneye had better levels. It's hard to go wrong with either, but my group of friends generally prefer Goldeneye.

[hush]

I keep going back to Goldeneye not so much perfect dark it was a good game but it just wasnt good enough to keep going back to

[TheDomesticInstitution]

Before commenting, I'll say that I've never played PD in the co-op mode- just in multiplayer and single player modes.

As far as the single player mode goes, I enjoy Goldeneye quite a bit more. The stage design is great, and I enjoy using the difficulty sliders from the unlocked 007 mode.

Perfect Dark really improved on the multiplayer gameplay in Goldeneye. The weapons are awesome, and I think the secondary functions add a unique touch. Even if you have no one else to play, the sims still add quite a bit of challenge.

[c0ldb33r]

If you've got an expansion pak - Perfect Dark
If you don't - Goldeneye.

Like other people here, I didn't find a huge difference between the two, but PD does win out because of its weapons.

[Oobgarm]

Goldeneye, no question.


Nothing ever beat the late night gaming sessions where we would all sit around trying to pick each other off with sniper rifles (or my favorite, mines).

Truer words never spoken.

[Shadow Kisuragi]

I loved Goldeneye, and probably spent more than 500 hours playing between Single Player and Multiplayer. However...I say Perfect Dark wins out on this one, mainly because of the Simulator. I truthfully spent 1000+ hours on that alone, trying to attain the highest rank. I think I only made it up to Assassin (Rank 6), but my stats were ridiculous...of course, I hardly ever played against the Dark bots. Those bots had some of the most ridiculous AI I've ever played against. I'm just proud to have finished all of the Challenges solo, and all but 1 with 2 players.

I sincerely hope they bring back the Challenges in the XBLA version. The memories between that and laughing at Mr. Blonde were priceless.

[MachineGex]

4 player Golden Eye was the best. This game ate more hours than any other game I have ever (or will ever)played. Some great times. We waited what seemed like years for Pefect Dark to come out, still playing 4 player Golden Eye everyday. Perfect Dark got delayed so many times, by the time it came out, we all had moved on to LAN gaming. Games like CounterStrike 2.1 replaced the old N64.

Seems like Pefect Dark missed it time for us and Golden Eye was replaced by PC games.
I still look at Golden Eye as the best Multi-player exprience ever, past or future.

[alxbly]

Perfect Dark is a more technically accomplished game, it has far better multiplayer options and better weapons. And the Combat Simulator was amazing, whether playing with friends or by yourself. However, I still like Goldeneye more; it's the game I really missed when I stupidly sold my first N64 back in 2001.

Although I enjoyed Goldeneye's multiplayer, it was the single player game that really got me hooked. The levels get better as the game progresses and there's so many levels that are memorable; The Dam, Facility, Bunker, Silo, Train, Jungle, Water Caverns, Control Centre, Cradle... and no-one forgets Aztec or Egyptian if they unlocked them (but let's forget Streets if we can). Nearly every level has a distinct feel, so much that you don't really mind playing the "recycled" levels later on. The single player got progressively better as you played it, first though on Agent, discovering the wonders of the AR33's and the RCP90's, but then discovering the beauty of the difficulty structure, as new objectives and areas opened up in each level. The strategy for completing, for example, The Dam level on 00 Agent is so vastly different from the run through you can do on Agent. And the majority of Goldeneye's levels are like this; even if you've already completed the game on Agent, the 00 Agent difficulty feel like an entirely new and different game the first time you play it through.

And this is where Perfect Dark felt a little bit like a let down (to me, anyway). The single player levels start off great but when you get halfway through the game they become forgettable and the end levels decend into a generic hallway shooter stuff. I'm being slightly mean, but Perfect Dark just doesn't have as distinct or interesting environments or objectives. So, yeah, that's why I prefer Goldeneye.

[Shadow Kisuragi]

I wholeheartedly agree on the Single Player aspect - Goldeneye had a memorable SP, while Perfect Dark I can hardly remember. Combat Simulator won me over for Perfect Dark though, as I typically didn't have anyone over to play Goldeneye after I moved.

[kupomogli]

I'd say altogether Goldeneye.

Perfect Dark is a great game multiplayer and does include a few of Goldeneye's levels, but the single player sucks. It's got more weapons in Perfect Dark as well and you can choose which weapons you want to be on the field. It's also got some cool challenges you can do multiplayer.

Goldeneye has an amazing single player and then a good multiplayer. The only changes on Goldeneye that you can make on multiplayer are whether you want the weapons to be a combination of this and this or this and this. You can't set each specific weapon like you can in Perfect Dark. Doesn't really detract from the game at all though. The thing about multiplayer is that the multiplayer stages are much better altogether than the ones on Perfect Dark. The ones included in Perfect Dark that are probably the most played between my friends and I are the Goldeneye stages, and Goldeneye has many more good ones that aren't included on Perfect Dark.

Overall. Whichever one you want to play. Goldeneye is only slightly better due to the stages and great single player. Perfect Dark is probably the overall best when it comes strictly to multiplayer.

[otaku]

I played alot of both but if I remember correctly we played more Goldeneye and I liked it more. I should play them again though

[MrRoboto19XX]

Goldeneye for many reasons, one being that you can't be James Bond in Perfect Dark, nor can you have your friend play as Boris, driving you insane as he yells "I am INVINCIBLE!" in a russian accent.

[Ed Oscuro]

The sim challenges in PD already have added a lot of play time for me, especially when I play alone. They are insanely tough in the RARE FPS tradition (err the Goldeneye tradition, I mean), which is nice.

Goldeneye seems much faster though - PD bogs down quite a bit, though maybe not so much in multiplayer. Can't be stunned with punches either; I'm sure that drives many people insane :)

[Sonicwolf]

When it comes to more than one person, Perfect Dark easily outmatches GoldenEye for fun and stuff to do. Co-op mode, counter-op mode, multiplayer. All great.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Timesplitters

(but if I have to choose Goldeneye)

[sebastiankirchoff]

Goldeneye. While Perfect Dark is a great game also, I enjoyed the more "realistic" feel of Goldeneye if you know what I mean. I liked how the game is set in a more modern setting instead of a futuristic setting, and I enjoyed the stages and weapons more. It is hard to find something more enjoyable than kicking your friend's asses at Goldeneye while staying up all night jazzed up on soda.

[Baloo]

I prefer Goldeneye. Choice of characters, much better levels, more memorable guns, and an overall better feel to the gameplay.

[BHvrd]

Perfect Dark had some SERIOUS framerate problems in multiplayer, especially if you added bots, surprised noone mentioned this.

I'll take Goldeneye, much more solid and the mechanics were tuned to perfection.

[HappehLemons]

Goldeneye :)

[The 1 2 P]

Perfect Dark is a better version of Goldeneye without any licensed characters. And since it's being rereleased on XBLA this winter, it automatically gets the nod for best controls out of the two. So the winner and still champion: Perfect Dark 64 XBLA remake.

[jb143]

For me, Goldeneye is much more memorable as a game, but I still prefer the multiplayer in Perfect Dark. I honestly don't know why so many people are saying Goldeneye. Maybe it's because of what c0ldb33r said and I always played Perfect Dark with an expansion pack. Speaking only multilayer though, after going back to Goldeneye, I found it much harder to get back into. Perfect Dark was much more customizable, and if not mistaken, you could set up the exact same scenarios as Goldeneye in some of the same levels.(Yeah yeah, no bond or Borris, but that has nothing to do with game play) Anyways, to me, that plus the additional weapons, more varied (and smarter?)sims, etc... should make it clear that it would be the best. Is there something I'm missing here or is it just the nostalgia factor?

[Rickstilwell1]

If you think about it, 007: The World Is Not Enough is even better than those two. Remember the AI bots? multiplayer with computer players was so cool. Weapons still had a second mode like in Perfect Dark.

You could say Goldeneye had two sequels. One that was the same developer (Perfect Dark) and one that was the same series / franchise (EA's 007:TWINE)

The only thing that sucked about TWINE was that you have to use a memory card to save it as the game has no battery or EPROM saving. And we all know how unreliable Performance brand N64 Memory Cards are. For some reason I have never seen a Nintendo brand Controller Pak around here. I have no idea why that is.

When I have to choose between Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, I like Goldenye just because I'm used to it more.

[Sonicwolf]

If you think about it, 007: The World Is Not Enough is even better than those two. Remember the AI bots? multiplayer with computer players was so cool. Weapons still had a second mode like in Perfect Dark.

I dont know how TWINE could be considered better than Perfect Dark or GoldenEye. It was a good game but not as good. Perfect Dark had AI bots too.

[Rickstilwell1]

Well I do love the action of respawning right behind the person that just shot me so I can get revenge right away.

[The 1 2 P]

Well I do love the action of respawning right behind the person that just shot me so I can get revenge right away.

Thats called "cheap". Multiplayer games aren't suppose to have that. It's like an unwritten rule.

I have both(PS1+N64) versions of TWINE but have only played the PS1 version, which has no A.I. bots. I'll have to play the N64 version sometime.

[kainemaxwell]

Perfect Dark hands down. Plenty of multiplayer options, lots of guns, maps, and so forth to mess around with for days.

and Perfect Dark has the Laptop Gun. :)

[Sonicwolf]

Perfect Dark hands down. Plenty of multiplayer options, lots of guns, maps, and so forth to mess around with for days.

and Perfect Dark has the Laptop Gun. :)

Dont forget the oh so beloved N-bomb or Tranquilizer. Always a lot of fun pissing off friends by making them dizzy. Also, the computer bots look hilarious when made dizzy, they go around and rotate there heads like they have issues.