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Lewton
10-02-2009, 10:16 PM
If so, say hello.

I'll start ............... hello!

By the way, I'm new here, so please excuse my first fumbles at posting. :angel:

After having hung around here for a while just reading, the setting up of a classic computer gaming section finally made me take the plunge and register.

Anyway, I like both playing and collecting DOS and Windows adventures, and I recently finished (for the 1st time), the classic Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers. No idea why it took me so long to get around to play this. Glad I finally did though. Just GK2 left to play now. :)

For some reason I'm yet to play a fair few of the so-called classics whilst, at the same time, I've played some of the more obscure graphic adventures, strongly puzzle -orientated adventures, and some memorable text adventures (mostly recent ones).

I was just wondering .... are there many P&C adventure game folk like me here?

Ryaan1234
10-02-2009, 10:35 PM
Hello there!

Yes, I am a point & click adventure game fan too. I especially love the Lucasarts games, like Monkey Island, Loom, and The Dig. My favorite Monkey Island game is number 3, the Curse of Monkey Island. I'm also a fan of Interplay's Star Trek P&C games such as the 25th anniversary and Judgement Rites and I'd probably be playing one of them now had it not been for the fact that I can't get them to work right in DOSbox. (I can't save :( )

I've played several obscure titles like Les Manley: Search for The King (a ripoff of Leisure Suit Larry lol), Touche: The Adventures of the Fifth Musketeer, and some others.

I actually own almost all of the King's Quest games, but I've never played them for more than a little while (except for King's Quest VI, that's an awesome game.)

ryborg
10-02-2009, 10:37 PM
If Return to Zork counts, then yes, yes I am.

Diatribal Deity
10-02-2009, 10:53 PM
Huge adventure game fan here as well, although more third person than first person. The Beast Within is excellent even with all the FMV so you should enjoy it immensely.

Unfortunately I've been doing more collecting than actually playing recently, but I'm always on the lookout for past and present point & click adventure games.

A hearty welcome to the forums...you're in great company.

Scawt
10-02-2009, 11:01 PM
One of my earliest gaming memories is playing Indy & The Last Crusade in my friends' basement. We'd play flight sims, X-Wing and Where in the USA is Carmen Sandiago; great times were had. I mostly err to the side of Lucasarts, but I'm also a Police Quest fan.

So, hello!

Lewton
10-02-2009, 11:07 PM
Hi!

Return to Zork definitely counts - one of the famous ones I still haven't played. Looking forward to all the Zorks. No idea if it matters in which order you should play the graphic Zorks though. Iwas told it doesn't really matter. Is that true? :?

Yep! I love the Lucas Arts games. I've played all the Monkey Island series, but Secret of MI is my favourite, with Curse Of .. second. Haven't played The Dig or Loom yet. I do have them though, and plan to play them soon. Grim Fandango is one of my absolute favs. Also, Day of the Tentacle and Sam and Max Hit the Road. Yet to play Full Throttle though.

Interesting what you say about the Star Trek games. I've got 25th Anniversary, but none of the others like Borg, Next Generation, etc.. I've never been really sure as to which are interactive movies, which have combat (not keen on that, with a few very combat -ty exceptions), and which are 'pure' adventure.

I've got the King's Quest's as a collection and I'm playing my way through them at the moment. I may go back and play the freeware remakes of I and II (and III?).

Touche is one of my favourites too. Very Monkey Island 1 -ish.

The Longest Journey and Discworld Noir (hence the nickname), are two of my all-timers, as are Toonstruck, Stupid Invaders, GK3 and my all-time favourites, Broken Sword 1 and 2. Of lesser known ones (in my eyes), I have great memories of The Neverhood and Sherlock Holmes: Case of the Rose Tattoo as well.

Quite a few others, but I'd probably send you to sleep with my reminiscences. LOL

Jorpho
10-02-2009, 11:10 PM
The P&C genre is alive and well. If you have not heard of 5 Days A Stranger and its sequels, you should seek them out.

Seems one of the great Adventure Game Studio classics is on sale at the moment, but there's only three hours left to get it:
http://www.gamedujour.com/6541-the-blackwell-convergence

Lewton
10-02-2009, 11:28 PM
Hi Diatribal Deity and Scawt!

Yes. I collect far more than I can keep pace with playing too and I'm really looking forward to GK2, but a bit cool on FMV games in general. GK2 is so highly regarded though. I'm going to try to get into FMV games more. I was the same about 1st person, but now I don't mind them. I prefer 3rd person though. But, if I can get to like FMV I want to play Black Dahlia, the Tex Murphy FMV's, and Ripper sometime.

One game I'm always getting off the shelves, but never played because other 'things' seem to crop up, is Indiana Jones and the Fate Of Atlantis. Now that really is my type of old school adventure. I want to be sure I have time free to play it on consecutive evenings though. That's how I like playing best. No week-long gaps.

Hi Jorpho!

I started 5 Days A Stranger and liked it a lot, but got pulled away and never got past around 20% of it - lots of holes in the garden as I remember (?). Will get back to it someday. Have you played Something Amiss and Jessica Plunkenstein and The Dusseldorf Conspiracy? They're good and free too. Out of Order is another good one, and Cubert Badbone, P.I. is an odd one I liked too.

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Off to bed now. -_- Thanks for the welcome! It's good to see I'm not alone here. Actually, I'm quite amazed, and pleased, to see that there's a good few of us. :)

ryborg
10-03-2009, 12:25 AM
No idea if it matters in which order you should play the graphic Zorks though. Iwas told it doesn't really matter. Is that true? :?

Nah, you don't *have* to play them in order, but there's a few inside-jokey moments that you'd appreciate more if you've played them sequentially. If you're going to play them all, might as well do it in order.

tom
10-03-2009, 04:09 AM
Zak McKracken, very funny, might as well play Maniac Mansion I + II too

Berserker
10-03-2009, 04:32 AM
Yes, definitely. Old and new.

There's lots of "gold" in this genre to keep you occupied. Might take you awhile to sort through it!

Lewton
10-03-2009, 08:27 AM
The thing that's ridiculous is that I've been collecting for years now, so I've got loads of the games, both obscure, 'classic', old and new. But, the collecting completely took over the playing, so I know I'll never ever play the whole bunch. Prioritising is the problem - too many tasty temptations. I'm no spring chicken either - not old, but not young either.

I suppose that's the case with all collector-players. Every time I find an oldy but goody I abandon my plan of which game to play next. It's flippin' frustrating though ........ but in a nice way, ya know?! Gawd! I'm sad! :deadhorse:

Baloo
10-03-2009, 09:06 AM
The only P&C games I've ever really played for PC is Yoda's Stories, but I liked it.

Diatribal Deity
10-03-2009, 12:26 PM
The thing that's ridiculous is that I've been collecting for years now, so I've got loads of the games, both obscure, 'classic', old and new. But, the collecting completely took over the playing, so I know I'll never ever play the whole bunch. Prioritising is the problem - too many tasty temptations. I'm no spring chicken either - not old, but not young either.

I suppose that's the case with all collector-players. Every time I find an oldy but goody I abandon my plan of which game to play next. It's flippin' frustrating though ........ but in a nice way, ya know?! Gawd! I'm sad! :deadhorse:

Adventure games can be like book reading (although I'm not really into it). Every time you start one its a commitment. As average or below average as it might be, you usually feel compelled to finish it once you start it. Obviously the good ones you can't stop playing to see what happens next, but sometimes they just seem to end too quickly.

Back in the days of King's Quest (and other Roberta Williams titles like Colonel's Bequest, the Dager of Amon Ra), Space Quest, LSL, Hero's Quest, the Lucasarts gems (MI, Grim Fandango, Loom, etc...) and the like, it seemed plausible to keep up playing each one as they came out. Now, however, there seems to be a huge backlog of great mainstream titles and many independents (foreign and domestic).

I know many have recommended or referenced titles so far...and it sounds like between all of us the landscape is pretty much covered...but any recommendations of obscure or overlooked titles is greatly appreciated.

I will mention a couple decent ones that get overlooked:

Altered Destiny
Innocent Until Caught
Backpacker: The Lost Florence Gold Mine

Also be sure to check out this site if you haven't already (this site was formerly known as four fat chicks) but has a great review archive of classic and modern adventure titles:
http://tap-repeatedly.com/review_index.shtml

Gameguy
10-03-2009, 12:44 PM
Adventure games are pretty much my favourite genre, though I also still have a bunch of games I haven't got around to playing yet. I mostly like the LucasArts games, I haven't really played any of the Sierra games yet though I do have some of them. I have the first 2 Broken Sword games but I still haven't played them yet(only the GBA port of the first one), same with Toonstruck, Fate of Atlantis, The Last Crusade, Grim Fandango, Discworld 1 and Noir, Police Quest Collection, A couple Space Quest and King's Quest games, The Last Express, Spy Fox 2, Journeyman Project Turbo, Noctropolis, Myst and Riven, 7th Guest, etc. I really thought I've played more of them than I have, I really need more free time.

I didn't know four fat chicks changed their name, it must have been awhile since I've visited review sites.

Here's a free online adventure game that plays like Shadowgate.
http://www.aceteam.cl/retro/

Ryaan1234
10-03-2009, 03:08 PM
The only P&C games I've ever really played for PC is Yoda's Stories, but I liked it.

Oooh good choice. Not quite usual P&C fare but a nice little game nontheless. You know, Indiana Jones Desktop Adventures uses the same game engine but it has Indy in it.

Lewton
10-03-2009, 04:18 PM
I know what you mean about having to play to the end - bugs permitting. I hate resorting to walkthroughs too, and only use things like UHS as a very last resort.

As for a few obsure -ish (and not so), oddities I'd recommend, including some good independent developer games, I'll start with;

The Neverhood (not really obscure, but superb claymation -type graphics)
Noctropolis (comic book adventure)
Synnergist
Obsidian
Monet and the Mystery of the Orangery (Museum)
Scratches (not obscure at all)
Sanitarium (not obscure, but excellent)
Stupid Invaders (really good if you like daft, risque humour)
Shivers
Ween: The Prophecy
Master Of Dimensions
Last Half of Darkness (the series)
The Feeble Files
Cracking the Conspiracy
Faust

That's enough ......... SHUT UP Lewton! :snipersmile: ROFL

By the way, a couple of good adventure websites I'd recommend include;

Tap Repeatedly (already mentioned)

Mystery Manor (reviews) .............. http://www.mysterymanor.net/conservatory.htm

Adventure Point (a big information databases of adventure games) ............. http://www.adventurepoint.co.uk/#/ap-home/4521113552

Adventure Lantern (reviews) ............. http://www.adventurelantern.com/Reviews/Index.htm

Arkhan
10-03-2009, 10:48 PM
man Fate of Atlantis was a fun P&C adventure game.

I played the balls out of that.

and, what about the 7th guest

scooterb23
10-04-2009, 01:11 AM
I'm a huge fan of Grim Fandango. What's really strange is that I've never really gotten into other P&C games, though I do really enjoy the style.

Jorpho
10-04-2009, 02:24 AM
Grim Fandango is most definitely one of the finest games I have ever played.

Flack
10-04-2009, 05:35 PM
I used to be a fan of these but some of them seemed to digress to just making the player click on everything on screen until you "found" things. Combined with inferior graphics of yesteryear, and you could end up with some pretty frustrating experiences. I haven't heard of many of the newer games listed in this thread, so maybe I'll download some of them and check them out.

Game Freak
10-04-2009, 05:42 PM
I love the carmen sandiego games, and I played a lot of the Humongous Entertainment games in my youth. I have recently gotten Aura: Fate of the Ages and the sequel, The Sacred Rings. Haven't beaten either, but the first is good so far.

megasdkirby
10-04-2009, 05:45 PM
I love them. I don't play them constantly, as I know this will cause me to slowly despise them, but when I do play them, I love every minute.

I vividly remember playing both Broken Swords, Icom games, King's Field...pure awesomeness.

The 1 2 P
10-04-2009, 05:58 PM
Snatcher is the only point and click game I ever started to get into. I still haven't finished it yet but this thread was a nice reminder for me.

tom
10-04-2009, 06:34 PM
Are there any on A8?

Diatribal Deity
10-04-2009, 06:35 PM
Lewton,

If you are going to play the Tex Murphy games you may want to start with the game that started it all...One of my favorites (mainly for nostalgia sake) was Mean Streets by Access. It had that quasi RealSound digitized music and sound which blew me away after being conditioned and accustomed to the beeps and blips before sound cards. I don't think I ever finished it, but got to the very end only to learn I had missed something somewhere along the way as I never used any guides or cheats.

Following that in the series was Martian Memorandum. (these were more traditional third person P&C more than FMV as the later titles became). But you probably already knew this based on the vast number of resources and knowledge you have demonstrated.

Anyway, early Sierra games and these Access games is what started it all for me...well other than text adventures, but then I would be dating myself a bit too much.

Lewton
10-04-2009, 07:39 PM
Hi DD (say if that's not okay ........ easier to type though :) ),

Everyone I've 'spoken' to says that Mean Streets is the best of the two earliest ones, but does that mean that Martian Memorandum is poor, or just not quite as good? Out of the last three, most people seem to say that The Pandora Directive is the best. I'll definitely start with the earliest though. Old graphics don't affect my enjoyment one jot. It's the story, atmosphere, puzzles and music that draw me in. In fact, many modern graphic adventures are heavy on awesome graphics, but hollow on atmosphere and story. There are exceptions though. Thanks for the tip concerning Mean Streets. :cheers:

Playing text adventures doesn't date you at all. I haven't played many earlier 'classics', including most of the Infocoms, but I enjoy, these days, digging through the Interactive Fiction Competition entries of the last 15 years. Do you know of them? All are free.

My number one favourite has to be one called Anchorhead, by a chap called Michael Gentry. To play the games it's necessary to download Interpreters, as their called. Some of these IF adventures are really, really good.

Diatribal Deity
10-04-2009, 09:16 PM
Hi DD (say if that's not okay ........ easier to type though :) ),

Everyone I've 'spoken' to says that Mean Streets is the best of the two earliest ones, but does that mean that Martian Memorandum is poor, or just not quite as good? Out of the last three, most people seem to say that The Pandora Directive is the best. I'll definitely start with the earliest though. Old graphics don't affect my enjoyment one jot. It's the story, atmosphere, puzzles and music that draw me in. In fact, many modern graphic adventures are heavy on awesome graphics, but hollow on atmosphere and story. There are exceptions though. Thanks for the tip concerning Mean Streets. :cheers:

Playing text adventures doesn't date you at all. I haven't played many earlier 'classics', including most of the Infocoms, but I enjoy, these days, digging through the Interactive Fiction Competition entries of the last 15 years. Do you know of them? All are free.

My number one favourite has to be one called Anchorhead, by a chap called Michael Gentry. To play the games it's necessary to download Interpreters, as their called. Some of these IF adventures are really, really good.

DD is fine (actually there could have been some type of Freudian meaning behind my name and initials...but I'm not saying for sure...)

Again alot of it is nostalgia and the fact that when I originally played it, it featured the most advanced graphics and sound of its time, but Mean Streets overall seemed to have a better story and plotline. I also remember Martian Memorandum being much easier (finished it and pretty quickly) versus Mean Streets where I somehow could not locate one of the passcards.

Funny to see many have finished this in the 10-15 hour range. Seems to have taken me about 30-40 hours. Maybe due to my inexperience and it being one of my first. Martian Memorandum I believe was much more linear and did not require much backtracking like Mean Streets and the immersion with the other chracters was not as great. Was not as much fun to experiment with different responses, reactions or interactions by clicking on everything. I call this the Zelda technique (burning every tree down just to see if something is there). Some games immerse you enough to stick around and experiment, where others you just plod your way through with tunnel vision. Again this may have been just due to the unique and groundbreaking experience of the original.

Martian Memorandum was good, but like many sequels missed slightly to recapture or re-invent the charm of the original.

I equally enjoyed all of the later games in the series and could not say one versus the other was my favorite...although Overseer has the best production and story but the puzzles just seemed to get recycled from one game to the next.

For some reason other games randomly popped into my head while reminiscing...Amazon: Guardians of Eden, Rex Nebular, Orion Conspiracy (not so great), Mission Critical (excellent), and all the Legend Spellcasting and Timequest games...oh, the memories. Gotta go back and see which ones I finished...

Thanks for the tip on IFC (doesn't ring a bell) and Anchorhead (I think I've heard of this one). I played many of the Infocom ones. I think the independent and vintage text ones will be my next area of focus.

chrissylas
10-05-2009, 12:25 AM
I am a HUGE Adventure game fan. So glad to see that there are others :)

At the risk of being unoriginal.. Grim Fandango is my absolute favorite game. I was able to get Tim Schafer to autograph Grim Fandango and Psychonauts for me a few weeks ago and it was probably one of the coolest moments ever.

I just recently picked up the Neverhood again after 4 years of searching but I can't seem to get my computer to run it. I figure it's about time to invest in a cheap-as-dirt gaming pc for my adventure fix.

Jorpho
10-05-2009, 01:27 PM
I just realized I hadn't checked up on Broken Sword 2.5 for a while - that's the free fangame done in the style of BS 1 & 2. It actually got finished a long time ago!

tom
10-05-2009, 01:32 PM
Mena Streets is very good, I even played it on C128.

Anyone ever try David Wolf Secret Agent (DOS)? I liked Heart of China and Rise of the Dragon from Dynamics.

Lewton
10-05-2009, 02:42 PM
DD is fine (actually there could have been some type of Freudian meaning behind my name and initials...but I'm not saying for sure...)

For some reason other games randomly popped into my head while reminiscing...Amazon: Guardians of Eden, Rex Nebular, Orion Conspiracy (not so great), Mission Critical (excellent), and all the Legend Spellcasting and Timequest games...oh, the memories. Gotta go back and see which ones I finished...

Thanks for the tip on IFC (doesn't ring a bell) and Anchorhead (I think I've heard of this one). I played many of the Infocom ones. I think the independent and vintage text ones will be my next area of focus.

Hi DD,

You've just gotta play Anchorhead! Seriously! :whip:

As for the others you mentioned, I agree, except that I didn't care The Orion Conspiracy. I didn't like the story material at all. You'll probably know what I mean.

Chrissy,

You MUST play Neverhood again. It works on my Windows 98 PC, but I haven't tried it on my XP. I have 3 gaming PC's. Two I've hung on to .... for my oldies .... and one I bought especially for one game, would you believe? I bought it for Flight of the Amazon Queen because I was so (sad!, sad!, sadly!), desperate to play it, but it's the best £30 I ever spent on anything game-related. It's a Dell GX PRO, running Windows 95 and DOS when I want it to. I recommend you you find a way to get Neverhood to work asap. You'll probably find that other oldies will profit from your efforts too. Synnergist is a bu$$er to get to run, but it's a treat!

Jorpho,

BS 2.5 is great looking and free, as you say, but there's supposed to be an update with English voices soon. I've been hanging on for that. As I said before, BS1 and BS2 are in my top 5 ever favourites.

By the way, has there ever been a thread here for members top 10 favourite p & c adventure games? It's a tough choice for me, but it may be interesting. There are far more adventure game fans ('Adventurers'), here than I at first thought. :)

Tom,

Ive never heard of David Wolf Secret Agent (DOS), but I'm going to look it up. Heart of China and Rise of the Dragon have awesome box art and screenshots and they've long been on my stupidly lengthy to-play list. :help:

Also, anyone played A.D. 2044, Master Of Dimensions or Liath?

Lewton. :)

Diatribal Deity
10-05-2009, 11:29 PM
Played David Wolf Secret Agent to death when it came out years ago. Had a mix of gameplay elements from what I remember and was extremely short. But it featured the advent of digitized characters and as close to a multimedia movie experience as could be achieved at the time. Fondly remember the skydiving scene and if I remember correctly flying the through the barn...not so much an adventure game...moreso interactive experience.

I'm jealous of the autograph Chrissy, everything that man touches is gold IMO.

Tom, any of note on the A8? I think i played Hitchhiker's Guide on it but I know there are probably some additonal gems as well.

Lewton, shame on you for mentioning those games...they continue to allude me to this day. Well A.D. 2044 and Master of Dimensions Have you played them? Any good? How about Nippon Safes, L-Zone, Orion Burger, or Igor.

Gotta get back into Broken Sword series (can't remember if I finished the second one) and still have to bring out the newer ones. 2.5 sounds intriguing. Would also like to start the Kyrandia series soon as well.

Also check out Return of the Phantom, Dragonsphere, Kronolog (interesting if not a bit different), Conquests of Camelot (The Legend of Robin Hood) for some mediocre to good 'ole adventuring.

Ha, and Lewton you were afraid of a data dump. I bet I could give ya' a run for your money.

Lewton
10-06-2009, 02:33 PM
Hi DD,

No. Seriously a 'data dump' is what it could end up being ........... a very nice looking dump though! :|

Haven't played those yet, apart from most of Orion Burger. I've checked them out though and, for my gluttonous sins, I have them all in pretty boxes. :roll: , except Igor. There's an Orion Burger on UK eBay at the moment as it happens. :rolleyes:

Master of Dimensions is very high on my to-play list. Been looking forward to playing it for ages. As far as I know, Igor was only ever released in Spanish, but that an English version Beta release is around somewhere. It was planned, but never completed/released. Do you know more?

Similarly with Black Sect, from Lankhor, creators of Maupiti Island and Mortville Manor. I have both, but not both as English and PC.

I like weird/surreal adventures too, and Alice: An Interactive Museum is one that's a bit quirky. Haven't played it yet, but will someday. Really off-beat ones that I either have or am after include Cosmology of Kyoto, Grackon's Curse, Bad Milk, Mortalus and Fascination (from Coktel). I have a couple of them, but not all. Have you heard of a game from Russian developer New Media Generation (NMG), called The Case? It's been confirmed that it was released in English, but all I have are a few cute screenshots. A nightmare of a game to search for on eBay ............ The Case ............. Doh!

Dr. Dib
10-06-2009, 06:58 PM
I've played a few of them, but I don't know if I would go and call myself a huge fan. I've only beaten The Secret of Monkey Island and Sam & Max and am currently working on The Secret of Monkey Island 2. I'm just so bad at finding secrets that I have to use Gamefaqs to progress, which I don't really like to do. Or maybe it's just Secret of Monkey Island 2.... I really don't know.

Jorpho
10-06-2009, 10:05 PM
Really off-beat ones that I either have or am after include Cosmology of Kyoto, Grackon's Curse, Bad Milk, Mortalus and Fascination (from Coktel).I've heard very nice things about Bad Milk. I ought to take a look at that one; it's not nearly as hard to find (a non-physical copy, anyway) as I thought it might be.

NayusDante
10-06-2009, 10:15 PM
I'm surprised that Day of the Tentacle hasn't been mentioned more. That's THE definitive game in the genre for me.

I was actually introduced to the genre on NES. I can't remember which I played first, but I rented Maniac Mansion and King's Quest V, and struggled with the controls (I was like, 3 or 4...). After seeing the demo for DoTT included with Rebel Assault, I talked my dad into getting it even though Rebel Assault ran like crap on our 486DX. It crashed a LOT, but I absolutely loved it, and memorized the script by the time I was through kindergarten.

I got the King's Quest Collector's Edition (1-6) for my 6th birthday, which got me into the more serious side of adventure gaming. It wasn't long until I discovered the other LucasArts adventures, The Journeyman Project, Total Distortion, Myst, etc.

Growing up, I absolutely loved DoTT for its humor and KQV for its overall epic-ness. Years later, I have to say that KQVI has aged a little better than V, but DoTT is still just as great.

Counting Myst is debateable. I've personally never counted Myst as a graphic adventure, but I understand why people do. For me, Myst was about the story and atmosphere, so I didn't really like it as a game series. The puzzles seemed kinda disjointed from the overall experience, but then again, I was more interested in exploring than solving puzzles. I loved figuring out how to use the different machines, but solving the actual puzzles was frustrating and tedious. The lack of object-based puzzles compared to something like DoTT probably skewed my perspective a bit.

If you're going to count the Myst-likes, then I have to say that The Journeyman Project is my all-time favorite. It balanced good (object-based) puzzles with amazing visuals (by 1993 CD-ROM game standards). I've never been more drawn in by the art element of a game, and Geno Andrews' unique sound design certainly helped. As for straight-up graphic adventures, my favorite would have to be The Dig. The Dig has its flaws, but the story has weight to it and it succeeds on a technical level. While the animation has been criticized for clashing with the overall art direction, those cutscenes provided full-screen film-style animation on CD-ROM.

These are the games that make me wish the 90s never ended. Total Distortion in particular captured the 90s style, and it makes so much sense if you put yourself in the right mindset. I still have memories of the TD demo on a magazine CD along with previews of Toad the Wet Sprocket's new album and Cooking with Dom Delouise.


I can't speak for the modern adventure games, but a promising area to watch is the "visual novel" genre. It's closer to text adventure, but has a lot of potential to draw from graphic adventures. Hentai games and dating sims are more common right now, but the potential for proper adventure games is certainly there. Check out Radical Dreamers (SNES Satellaview) for a good example of the format used in an adventure game.

MutantX
10-06-2009, 10:46 PM
Spy Fox in Dry Cereal ftw.

Diatribal Deity
10-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Agreed. DOTT definately was a landmark game. Great atmosphere, clever writing, and a timeless and unique experience overall. Depending on when you "jumped" into the genre I guess your definitive or standout games will vary. I have in the past and probably will continue to mention games, that viewed or played now might be considered primitive, shallow, and overall pretty mediocre but they somehow left an impression.

For instance I have some fond memories of playing The Dark Crystal (now that's going back), Blue Force, Codename Iceman, Shadow of the Comet, Darkseed, The Scroll, Eric the Unready, Freddy Pharkas, The Gene Machine, Teen Agent, Harvester (interesting premise if you know the ending...not really proud I finished this one), and James Bond: A Stealth Affair.

Lewton, did not know that about Igor, but then again I don't think I have ever come across the actual retail release. Alice is right there with AD 2044 and MoD as far as on my acquisition list.

The Case...that wasn't Midnight Nowhere was it? Probably not, but that was the first thing that popped into my head. If not, add another to my ever growing list. Top ten???I think I would have to make it my top 100 first in no particular order and even that could be tough.

Jorpho
10-06-2009, 11:00 PM
If you're going to count the Myst-likes, then I have to say that The Journeyman Project is my all-time favorite. It balanced good (object-based) puzzles with amazing visuals (by 1993 CD-ROM game standards). I've never been more drawn in by the art element of a game, and Geno Andrews' unique sound design certainly helped. As for straight-up graphic adventures, my favorite would have to be The Dig. The Dig has its flaws, but the story has weight to it and it succeeds on a technical level. While the animation has been criticized for clashing with the overall art direction, those cutscenes provided full-screen film-style animation on CD-ROM. If you liked it that much, you should look for the Pegasus Project download floating around. It's neatly packaged with a preconfigured PowerMac emulator - though it's not quite as easy to use as it could be.

NayusDante
10-06-2009, 11:25 PM
If you liked it that much, you should look for the Pegasus Project download floating around. It's neatly packaged with a preconfigured PowerMac emulator - though it's not quite as easy to use as it could be.

I managed to get SheepShaver working with OS7.5 or so, I just have to run it on my laptop. Something about 64-bit OS incompatibilities on the CD drivers. I have JMP 1, Turbo, 2, and 3 for PC, and PP for Mac. One day I'd like to play them all on Mac.

Ryaan1234
10-07-2009, 04:15 PM
You MUST play Neverhood again. It works on my Windows 98 PC, but I haven't tried it on my XP.
I showed this game to my friend by installing it on his XP that has a fancy dual-core processor and everything. It worked like a charm.

This reminds me, I need to put The Neverhood on my new computer :)

I'm sorry to those that think The Neverhood's gameplay is it's best feature. I think it's music is the best part of the game.
Can you believe I was one puzzle from beating the game. The part were you have to take note of a series of symbols and the sounds that play with them and much later in the game you have to enter them. I could never get the sequence right and just gave up.

Lewton, do you know any halloween-y P&C games? (other than Maniac Mansion :P )

NayusDante
10-07-2009, 04:20 PM
Lewton, do you know any halloween-y P&C games? (other than Maniac Mansion :P )

I've heard good things about Hugo's House of Horrors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo%27s_House_of_Horrors). The original is text-parser, but I believe there was a remake with mouse control.

Ryaan1234
10-07-2009, 04:41 PM
I've heard good things about Hugo's House of Horrors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo%27s_House_of_Horrors). The original is text-parser, but I believe there was a remake with mouse control.

Lol, I just downloaded that game a week ago, but I haven't gotten around to playing it. There's 2 point & click sequals and one 1st person shooter I believe. (Yes, I said first person shooter.... and it's a sequal to a point & click adventure)

Gameguy
10-07-2009, 05:12 PM
Lewton, do you know any halloween-y P&C games? (other than Maniac Mansion :P )
Try Gahan Wilson's The Ultimate Haunted House. It's a point and click but it's non-linear and there's several ways to beat it, it's aimed at kids but there's lots to do with it.

Lewton
10-07-2009, 07:24 PM
Lewton, do you know any halloween-y P&C games? (other than Maniac Mansion :P )

Hi Ryaan. Other than the good suggestions so far, not specifically Halloween-y. I can't think of any crackers at the moment, but I've been asked this before and I recommend Scratches as a good one to play around this time. Dark Fall too. Lots of tension and spookyness without the gore.

Both games ought to be played with lights off and head-phones on! That telephone ringing in Dark Fall really got me spooked, as did the cellar in Scratches.

There are other spooky games, but those are two of my favourites, and they're modern games too.

I agree about the Neverhood music. I even snagged the CD of the music on eBay soon afterward. Num-ber EIGHT! :D You'll know what I mean. ROFL

Did anyone ever read the entire wall of history of The Neverhood in the game? I did and, WOW!, it took nearly one whole game sitting to get through it. I still ask myself if it was worth the effort! LOL

We should have a thread of our favourite Top (say), 20, or, so adventures. It doesn't matter if some of us have only played a few adventures. It would serve as a good list for reference and recommendations. What d'ya think? :?

Jorpho
10-08-2009, 10:17 AM
Did anyone ever read the entire wall of history of The Neverhood in the game? I did and, WOW!, it took nearly one whole game sitting to get through it. I still ask myself if it was worth the effort! LOLIt ticked me off because I thought I was supposed to be looking for a clue. :( (The "BOBBY" puzzle really threw me.)

Diatribal Deity
10-10-2009, 12:49 PM
We should have a thread of our favourite Top (say), 20, or, so adventures. It doesn't matter if some of us have only played a few adventures. It would serve as a good list for reference and recommendations. What d'ya think? :?

Not sure about a new thread, but it's amazing how generic my list would end up being (this would be favorite overall not necessarily influential):

1. Secret of Monkey Island
2. Space Quest II
3. Willy Beamish
4. Sam and Max Hit the Road
5. Grim Fandango
6. Space Quest
7. The Longest Journey
8. Maniac Mansion
9. Leisure Suit Larry II
10. Day of the Tentacle
11. Leisure Suit Larry
12. Police Quest
13. King’s Quest III
14. Broken Sword
15. Space Quest
16. Police Quest II
17. Colonel’s Bequest
18. Hero’s Quest I
19. King’s Quest IV
20. Secret of Monkey Island II

tom
10-10-2009, 12:55 PM
I'm surprised that Day of the Tentacle hasn't been mentioned more. That's THE definitive game in the genre for me.

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I did as well sort of on the first page (Maniac Mansion II), one of the games I really liked. Even had the 'special box'.

As for Hitchhikers, it's more adventure than point and click, but I keep looking for A8 p&c genre.

I played Intrigue, a digitized Spectrum Holobyte game on C64 way back. That was a good game too.

Poofta!
10-11-2009, 03:33 PM
i love 90s P&C games. mainly the lucasarts and sierra stuff and other P&C with humor. i have come here to tell everyone to play Simon the Sorcere I & II. II being my favorite. they are uk games made with the SCUMM engine. they are colorful, smart and hilarious. by far the best non-lucasarts, lucasarts-style games.