Ok, this is a funny bit of irony.

[bombman]

I just saw this and I had to scan it.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6606/zeroa.jpg



You have one guess as to what he's saying.

[Aussie2B]

I don't get what's supposed to be ironic about it. o_O

Also, the whole point of the meme was how Engrishy the English translation in the European version was. I'm sure whatever he's saying in Japanese there sounds normal and natural if someone translated it properly.

[bombman]

It's not just the fact he's there, but what he's saying.

[smork]

Too small to read, sorry.

[skaar]

Joke fail!

[c0ldb33r]

okay, I'll bite...

what is he saying?

[ice1605]

That is the section of Japanese that was translated into "All your base are belong to us". I think the real translation is something like "CATS has taken over all of your bases" or something like that. ごめんなさい、その漢字を読むことができません。I am not sure of the exact translation because I don't know most of those Kanji. I read the proper translation once, though.

[Shirokuma]

Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning hypocrisy, deception, or feigned ignorance) is a situation, literary or rhetorical device, in which there is an incongruity, discordance or unintended connection that goes beyond the most evident meaning.


i understand what you're getting at, but i don't think that word means what you think it means.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

It's only ironic in the Alanis Morisette-defined version of the word.

[bombman]

Too small to read, sorry.

No it's not!

Geez. For a forum called import gaming I figured there would be a few more japanese readers in here. NEver mind.

[TonyTheTiger]

Kanji is hard.

[Cobra Commander]

Irony


i don't think that word means what you think it means.
You keep using that word....I do not think it means what you think it means.

[ice1605]

No it's not!

Geez. For a forum called import gaming I figured there would be a few more japanese readers in here. NEver mind.

You can know how to read Japanese (Hiragana and Katakana) and still not be able to read something, because of Kanji. For instance, I can read about 150-200 kanji at the moment, but there are about 2000 commonly used, and I don't know the Kanji in that screenshot.

[pseudonym]

You keep using that word....I do not think it means what you think it means.

lol, I was just thinking of that.

[c0ldb33r]

For a forum called import gaming I figured there would be a few more japanese readers in here. NEver mind.
yeah guyyyssssssss you all suck! You should all go commit seppuku!

Heh, that the only asian word that I know, and I doubt that it's actually written correctly.

[smork]

No it's not!

Geez. For a forum called import gaming I figured there would be a few more japanese readers in here. NEver mind.

Yes it is! The kana are OK to read because it's easy to read them when they are small but I can't read the entire top line. It's just a collection of pixels all running together.

Maybe it's easy to read on your computer, but where I am reading it now, I can't make out shit.

[Ro-J]

This thread has confused me.

[Shirokuma]

You keep using that word....I do not think it means what you think it means.

hahaha. glad someone picked up on that.

couldn't remember the exact quote, but glad someone did. :D

[Breetai]

No it's not!

Geez. For a forum called import gaming I figured there would be a few more japanese readers in here. NEver mind.Yes it is. My wife is Japanese and she can't even get all of it. It IS too small to make out some of the characters. Plus, there's no furigana to help. It makes both of our eyes bleed.

In other words, you suck because you don't know what you're talking about and find that picture funny (not sure how it is ironic).

[bombman]

Yes it is. My wife is Japanese and she can't even get all of it. It IS too small to make out some of the characters. Plus, there's no furigana to help. It makes both of our eyes bleed.

In other words, you suck because you don't know what you're talking about and find that picture funny (not sure how it is ironic).

if you couldn't see the kanji how do you expect to be helped by furigana

what a ridiculous argument

[stiltzkin]

They were a bit small and required some squinting, but I didn't think they were impossible to read...

renpouseifu gun no gokyouryoku ni yori,
kimi tachi no kichi wa, subete
CATS ga itadaita.

Maybe I'm just used to having to pick out small, blurry kanji from TV caps of shows and such.

[MasterJSP]

So what does it translate to?

[stiltzkin]

Something like:
Because of the cooperation of Federal Government forces, CATS has taken all of your bases.

That would be the proper English version anyway, and in this case CATS seems to be referring to himself in the third person.

[smork]

if you couldn't see the kanji how do you expect to be helped by furigana

what a ridiculous argument

What are you talking about? Do you even know what furigana is?

Something nice and simple like kana - furigana - is much easier to read when very small than some 10-stroke kanji.

[Breetai]

if you couldn't see the kanji how do you expect to be helped by furigana

what a ridiculous argumentFurigana doesn't bleed into itself like small kanji does. Did you need to be told that? Can you even read any Japanese, or know what furigana was before looking it up on the internet?

I'm finding the whole premise of this thread somewhat offensive. I do realize what you're trying to say, but you ought to realize that probably half of the people who post in this sub-forum live in Japan and have Japanese family. Making fun of English mistakes has long since lost its luster, unless it's someone with English as their mother tongue misusing words like "irony".


You have one guess as to what he's saying.As has already been said, it's along the lines of, "Because of the cooperation of Federal Government forces, CATS has taken all of your bases."

[bombman]

Furigana doesn't bleed into itself like small kanji does. Did you need to be told that? Can you even read any Japanese, or know what furigana was before looking it up on the internet?

I hate wapanese like you. You probably think "Osu" means "hey" in "Osu Tatakae Ouendan" as well.

I have an MA in the language, teaching licensure, and I deal with smug fucks like you everyday who think they know japanese because you picked it up from a year in asij and watching intermittent nhk lessons. GTFO with your lecture.

[Shirokuma]

woah. i think we all need to chill.

it's not a big deal on either side of the arguement.

we're all here because we're non-japanese who speak japanese and play games (at least in this sub-forum). 大人らしく成ってください。。。

[smork]

I hate wapanese like you. You probably think "Osu" means "hey" in "Osu Tatakae Ouendan" as well.

I have an MA in the language, teaching licensure, and I deal with smug fucks like you everyday who think they know japanese because you picked it up from a year in asij and watching intermittent nhk lessons. GTFO with your lecture.

Wow, a credentialed asshole! Are you actually whipping out your e-penis based on language skills?

This is a pretty small community in this subforum, we really don't need people coming in and yelling at other posters. How about getting back to talking about games instead of insulting long-term members?

[bombman]

He started it.

[delafro]

For teh funniez, this is the only part that matters:

”君達の基地は、全てCATSがいただいた”

"(Cats) has all of your bases".

Cut and paste, and impress all of your friends!

[slapdash]

Yeah, let's calm down and get back to the meat of the thread -- uh, what's ironic about that?

[Breetai]

I hate wapanese like you. You probably think "Osu" means "hey" in "Osu Tatakae Ouendan" as well.

I have an MA in the language, teaching licensure, and I deal with smug fucks like you everyday who think they know japanese because you picked it up from a year in asij and watching intermittent nhk lessons. GTFO with your lecture.Wow... Are all licensed Japanese teachers just like you? How can I become more like you (am I already?)?

I have no idea what asij is, or what "Osu Tatakae Ouendan" is, and don't watch Japanese lessons on NHK, but I do find the Korean lessons on NHK interesting. I don't even know what a "wapanese" is, but I'm guessing that it is quite the derogative term. If you're making fun of Japanese pronunciation, I find it strange that you say you have an MA in Japanese but didn't realise that there are no pronunciation issues with either "J" or "W" here. I can read hangul just fine, but I don't really understand very much. Hanja/Kanji is pretty tough, though, as I've never formally studied it (or any Japanese). I can get by in general conversation just fine, though, thank you, and do recognize and understand enough kanji to get me by in daily life and e-mails. I think I know Japanese well enough because I use it daily and it suits my needs.

I got into retro gaming YEARS after I first came to Japan.

[Kiddo]

All I have to say is that I find it humorous that someone who supposedly "teaches" Japanese never actually translated (or checked the accuracy of someone else's translation of) the key phrase he's calling "ironic".
Not that it matters anyway, he probably just thought it was funny because it was Zero Wing (and thus, anyone familiar with the meme would've had a general gist of what was funny about it. Not that it was ironic in any way, mind you).

[bombman]

It's only ironic in the Alanis Morisette-defined version of the word.

When that damn song was released 9th grade teachers across the US took it upon themselves to point out that all of the 'ironic' situations in the song were mere coincidence.
Now a generation of children thinks they're smart and edgy as shit for downplaying every instance of irony as 'just a coincidence'.

[c0ldb33r]

Now a generation of children thinks they're smart and edgy as shit for downplaying every instance of irony as 'just a coincidence'.
I don't get it - her examples weren't ironic. What's your point?

[Ed Oscuro]

What's ironic is that Toaplan is best known for one of their worst games, made in a format they always had trouble with - despite developing many core mechanics of the shooter genre and eventually morphing into shmup powerhouse Cave which is still a going concern and not subsidiary of a slideshow game and fanservice company.

Also, I like those things Smork said about everybody being nice because we're already a fringe group.

The kanji aren't really visible but the general outline and context should give clues for what many of them are - that wouldn't be helped by not knowing what the game was about in advance, however. Furigana, lol. I only know a handful of kanji but using furigana in place of a character would just slow me down.

[Breetai]

What's ironic is that Toaplan is best known for one of their worst games, made in a format they always had trouble with...It's also on PC Engine. :)

[Ed Oscuro]

It's also on PC Engine. :)
Not what I meant. Fire Shark, Truxton, Daisenpuu (okay, not my favorite) and Twin Cobra are a few solid Toaplan ports on the Mega Drive that come to mind. All (except Fire Shark I think) are on the PC-Engine one way or another, as well. By "format" I mean games in yoko (horizontal) format. Hellfire is quite good - just ask Arasoi, and he also likes Knuckle Bash which certainly has character - Get Star is also an interesting one - but I'm hard pressed to say any of these are on a level with their best stuff. Some of their horizontal format games are rather stinky. I'm thinking of games like Horror Story (also on PC-Engine, which I own), and - of course Zero Wing.

[XYXZYZ]

Okay guys, I took the image and adjusted the contrast in a graphics program. The text should be much easier to read now, but I don't know what it says. Here's the image with improved clarity-

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/XYXZYZ/Temp/CATSmessage.jpg

Smork, can you give it another shot now?

[Mimi Nakamura]

I hate wapanese like you. You probably think "Osu" means "hey" in "Osu Tatakae Ouendan" as well.

I have an MA in the language, teaching licensure, and I deal with smug fucks like you everyday who think they know japanese because you picked it up from a year in asij and watching intermittent nhk lessons. GTFO with your lecture.

It's funny when people like you actually come to Japan and realise that no one speaks the way you were taught at university.

Of the foreigners that I do know who can speak good Japanese, none of them were university educated in the language.

Sorry to be so harsh, but you're asking for it.

[Shirokuma]

Okay guys, I took the image and adjusted the contrast in a graphics program. The text should be much easier to read now, but I don't know what it says. Here's the image with improved clarity-

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/XYXZYZ/Temp/CATSmessage.jpg

Smork, can you give it another shot now?

hahaha. zing!

[Kyle15]

Okay guys, I took the image and adjusted the contrast in a graphics program. The text should be much easier to read now, but I don't know what it says. Here's the image with improved clarity-

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/XYXZYZ/Temp/CATSmessage.jpg

Smork, can you give it another shot now?

All your cheeseburger are belong to us?! @_@

[Breetai]

Okay guys, I took the image and adjusted the contrast in a graphics program. The text should be much easier to read now, but I don't know what it says. Here's the image with improved clarity-Well, everyone needs to eat... right?

[smork]

Okay guys, I took the image and adjusted the contrast in a graphics program. The text should be much easier to read now, but I don't know what it says. Here's the image with improved clarity-

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/XYXZYZ/Temp/CATSmessage.jpg

Smork, can you give it another shot now?

Yum Yum! "All your burgers are belong to my gut!"

[XYXZYZ]

Yum Yum! "All your burgers are belong to my gut!"

Actually I thought it said "I can has base?"

[Ed Oscuro]

:bigmac:

You know what's going to be a funny bit of irony? When XYXZYZ's post number is 1943 (would be better if he changed his year to 1987, but you can't have everything).

[Guy Bramsworth]

This thread seems like it was only an excuse for the OP to say "I read Japanese!"

Seriously, the Japanese game was made first before the crappy English translation. What could possibly be funny at all about the original sentence that the resulting nonsensical English came from? Nothing, because the original was constructed correctly in its language, while the English translation clearly got all wonky due to bad translators.

And bombman, take it from someone else who's studied Japanese, getting pissed at others just because you think(actually just pull assumptions out of your ass) that they're nowhere near your level doesn't give you the right to go off at them and assume they're as you call them "wapanese". One thing I can certainly say I've seen in all my years of studying languages of any sort is that a lot of people act like it's some sort of competition, and they never fail to try to find fault with others studying the language they're learning, almost as if they feel threatened someone else dare to intrude on their territory.

That's an assumption itself, but with how you find it neccesary to fly off the handle over someone else who ma or may not be as great as you are, I can't see it any over way. Get over yourself.

Clearly you don't even know English well enough to get what irony means. lol BTW everyone who cares what the original says may as well look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us

[Breetai]

This thread seems like it was only an excuse for the OP to say "I read Japanese!"

Seriously, the Japanese game was made first before the crappy English translation. What could possibly be funny at all about the original sentence that the resulting nonsensical English came from? Nothing, because the original was constructed correctly in its language, while the English translation clearly got all wonky due to bad translators.

And bombman, take it from someone else who's studied Japanese, getting pissed at others just because you think(actually just pull assumptions out of your ass) that they're nowhere near your level doesn't give you the right to go off at them and assume they're as you call them "wapanese". One thing I can certainly say I've seen in all my years of studying languages of any sort is that a lot of people act like it's some sort of competition, and they never fail to try to find fault with others studying the language they're learning, almost as if they feel threatened someone else dare to intrude on their territory.

That's an assumption itself, but with how you find it neccesary to fly off the handle over someone else who ma or may not be as great as you are, I can't see it any over way. Get over yourself.

Clearly you don't even know English well enough to get what irony means. lol BTW everyone who cares what the original says may as well look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_usYou're a great guy!

Get it? A pun! An ironic pun (except that it has nothing to do with irony)!

[Guy Bramsworth]

You're a great guy!

Get it? A pun! An ironic pun (except that it has nothing to do with irony)!

You have my LOLs sir :p