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robotriot
10-25-2009, 03:59 PM
I was surprised that I couldn't find a thread yet for Forza 3. What are your opinions on the game? My observations so far:

+ Quick upgrade is great. I can't be bothered with choosing every part seperately, it just automatically bolts the best stuff to your car to bring it up to the maximum allowed PI.
+ New menu system is much better. The FM2 one was loading a lot, the new one only loads once and browsing cars for example has become a lot faster, since they're not displayed as 3D models anymore. Generally, browsing the menus has become a lot easier as well.
+ Driving physics still feel great to me. Nothing beats the feeling of taking a corner really well in this game!
+ The way the right stick is utilised for looking around in cockpit view is great.
+ New career mode is a good idea, I prefer it over the old system from FM2.
+ Most of the achievements are pretty easy.

~ The game has become a lot easier. I'm driving with all assists off and manual w/clutch, and I'm getting around the corners pretty well (although I had my problems with the R3 class, maybe it gets more difficult here)
~ Earning money has become easier. I remember having to save for upgrades in FM2, now I've always got enough money left to buy a good car and fully upgrade it.
~ The new tracks are interesting to drive, but some do look pretty crappy (Amalfi especially, I think GT4 had a better looking example of Mediterranean looking towns)
~ Although I didn't want to at first, I find myself using the rewind feature more and more. Argh :(

- The HDR effect is way too strong and seems unrealistic.
- Graphics still look very sterile. Cockpit view is boring and bland (no textures or very low-res ones), no shifting animation, the driver hardly turns the wheel. Cars in the rear view mirror are missing shadows.
- No motion blur or anything. It doesn't feel like I'm driving real fast. NFS:Shift handles it so much better.
- I wish the cars were in their original countries state. There are BMWs with right-hand drive or ugly US-versions of cars like the Rabbit.
- No odometer.
- Damage models are basically non existant. There is some minor geometry deformation, but mostly it's just a dirtmap layed on top of the car.

Nebagram
10-25-2009, 06:56 PM
I've been beavering away at this and already I'm liking it more than FM2, though I still prefer the PGR series overall (even despite their emphasis on style over substance). The cars do feel fantastic to drive and I can see myself sinking a lot of play time into this, but I have two niggles. Firstly, if they wanted Patrick Stewart doing the voiceovers then next time they can damn well splash the cash and get him instead of the 'I desperately want to be Patrick Stewart' voice they have.

And secondly, one word for turn 10: QUALIFYING.

QUA-LI-FY-ING.

Qualifying.

God I hate starting at the back of the grid. On longer races it's fun to carve your way through the grid (even though on the GP circuits you've typically gone from 8th to 3rd by the end of the pit straight), but on the shorter circuits where the tracks are about a foot wider than your car, it's frustrating as fuck constantly driving into the boot of the car in front- especially when the Ai drivers seem to be like a cross between James May and Adrian Sutil- slow as hell and utterly oblivious to the player's car's presence (uhh... no offence, OP).

robotriot
10-26-2009, 03:16 AM
I agree, having qualifying would be a good addition. What AI difficulty are you on though? I've always got it set to medium, and it's usually never a problem to pass them quickly that way. Hard however is too difficult for me :(

Oobgarm
10-26-2009, 06:57 AM
It's not out over here till tomorrow.

PapaStu
10-26-2009, 03:06 PM
it's frustrating as fuck constantly driving into the boot of the car in front- especially when the Ai drivers seem to be like a cross between James May and Adrian Sutil- slow as hell and utterly oblivious to the player's car's presence (uhh... no offence, OP).


You LEAVE CAPTAIN SLOW ALONE!!! He is a wonderful driver!

Dangerboy
10-26-2009, 03:51 PM
I'm terrible at the SIm type racers, but F3's CE from GameStop caught me off guard and I'm buying tomorrow. I'll get to learn how to not drive like i'm in burnout yet.

robotriot
10-27-2009, 08:19 PM
Re: Qualifying. Turns out that your driver level determines your starting position in the grid. Level 5 grants you position 7/8 afaik. I'm at level 28 now and start at 3rd position - better than nothing.

s1lence
10-28-2009, 03:50 PM
Re: Qualifying. Turns out that your driver level determines your starting position in the grid. Level 5 grants you position 7/8 afaik. I'm at level 28 now and start at 3rd position - better than nothing.

Thats good to know at least you can kind of move up then.

Oobgarm
10-29-2009, 11:08 AM
Gave this one a serious run last night and am happy to report that it is the best racing game I have EVER played.