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jedimind7
10-31-2009, 05:39 AM
Who here purchased? Thoughts? I was going to buy this game today but i've been hearing how horrible the online is with lag so I think im going to hold off for a bit. For those that have it, is the lag that bad?
Gamereviewgod
10-31-2009, 10:26 AM
It's Tekken. That should be your first warning sign. ;)
I've had some lag against a local friend, but it wasn't atrocious. Then again, in a fighter, any lag is going to create a problem. Haven't jumped into ranked, and since I'm not fan of the series (at all), probably won't before the rental goes back.
kai123
10-31-2009, 12:15 PM
I am a big fan of Tekken and so far I like what they have done. I don't care for the forced single player game. I have played online and I haven't had much lag. I haven't played a fighting game that was perfect in online but I think that is the nature of the type of games they are. I love it but if you are not a fan of the series I wouldn't expect it to convert you or anything.
thedeityofhardcore
10-31-2009, 12:21 PM
I've had maybe 5 laggy matches and 1 complete asshole that sent me a nasty message after the laggy match cut out.
I've only had 1 rage quitter a King user whom I was pwning as Lili.
Scenario Mode is decent but could be way better Having to unlock people to get their story mode isn't the best way to do it. Why not just integrate it into arcade mode like Oh I dont know THE 7 GAMES BEFORE THIS ONE?
kai123
10-31-2009, 01:00 PM
I've had maybe 5 laggy matches and 1 complete asshole that sent me a nasty message after the laggy match cut out.
I've only had 1 rage quitter a King user whom I was pwning as Lili.
Scenario Mode is decent but could be way better Having to unlock people to get their story mode isn't the best way to do it. Why not just integrate it into arcade mode like Oh I dont know THE 7 GAMES BEFORE THIS ONE?
I agree. I prefer the original way of unlocking characters and endings.
Gabriel
10-31-2009, 01:18 PM
I prefer this game's method of unlocking characters and endings, because all characters are already unlocked for multiplayer and I've never really given a shit about endings.
As for online, I haven't bothered with it. Tekken is a game to play with friends sitting next to you, not with wankers online.
Overall, I'm happy with the game.
kaedesdisciple
10-31-2009, 01:33 PM
I've been playing this since Tuesday and I'm having a lot of fun with it. I was a bit disappointed with the single player game as it does feel very forced, but I'm just in it for the fighting anyway. I've played quite a few ranked matches and I've had one that was severely lagged, a few that were kind of lagged and about half were no lag or just slightly lagged. I seem to face more Law fighters than anyone else, and most of them are complete scrubs. I got to play against a few people (one Law and one Nina) that were fantastic and I was actually happy I lost against them since they taught me some valuable lessons. I think it's kind of a double-edged sword that you have to play online to rank past 1st Dan. If you get your promotion chance and that fight is severely lagged, which you can't control, you're totally screwed. It already happened to me once (why I'm still a 2nd Dan), and I can see it really pissing me off later on down the line. If anyone wants to fight a good Lili or a decent Baek/King, I'm your man. Just tell me you're from here if I don't already know you.
thedeityofhardcore
10-31-2009, 11:14 PM
I've been playing this since Tuesday and I'm having a lot of fun with it. I was a bit disappointed with the single player game as it does feel very forced, but I'm just in it for the fighting anyway. I've played quite a few ranked matches and I've had one that was severely lagged, a few that were kind of lagged and about half were no lag or just slightly lagged. I seem to face more Law fighters than anyone else, and most of them are complete scrubs. I got to play against a few people (one Law and one Nina) that were fantastic and I was actually happy I lost against them since they taught me some valuable lessons. I think it's kind of a double-edged sword that you have to play online to rank past 1st Dan. If you get your promotion chance and that fight is severely lagged, which you can't control, you're totally screwed. It already happened to me once (why I'm still a 2nd Dan), and I can see it really pissing me off later on down the line. If anyone wants to fight a good Lili or a decent Baek/King, I'm your man. Just tell me you're from here if I don't already know you.
I'd like to learn Lili better will you be my sensi?
Mr Mort
11-01-2009, 01:00 AM
I've been playing the 360 version off and on this week, and I'm not entirely impressed by it.
I'm beginning to think I should stick to the odd numbered games in the series. I missed out on the first 2 games, but I loved 3, hated 4, loved 5(DR), and I'm only so-so about 6 thus far.
Visually, the game seems like it's lacking polish. VF5 still looks much better, as does SC4. I'm not a big fan of the destructible stages either, they seem very unnecessary and feel like a cheap novelty. I don't like that ridiculous single player campaign mode either. I'm not happy about being forced to play through it to unlock stuff.
I'll give it more of a chance, but I should have got the PS3 version. I'm used to playing Tekken on a PS controller, and the 360 controller blows.
Any word on how good the PSP version is?
kaedesdisciple
11-01-2009, 10:11 AM
Yea, I just got really annoyed as I had three lagged fights in a row, the first I lost my Mentor promotion chance and the next two I lost to lag as two other guys got their Mentor promotions. I know it's probably a coincidence but that really is a kick in the teeth.
Clownzilla
11-01-2009, 10:33 AM
I've been playing the 360 version off and on this week, and I'm not entirely impressed by it.
I'm beginning to think I should stick to the odd numbered games in the series. I missed out on the first 2 games, but I loved 3, hated 4, loved 5(DR), and I'm only so-so about 6 thus far.
Visually, the game seems like it's lacking polish. VF5 still looks much better, as does SC4. I'm not a big fan of the destructible stages either, they seem very unnecessary and feel like a cheap novelty. I don't like that ridiculous single player campaign mode either. I'm not happy about being forced to play through it to unlock stuff.
I'll give it more of a chance, but I should have got the PS3 version. I'm used to playing Tekken on a PS controller, and the 360 controller blows.
Any word on how good the PSP version is?
Give Tekken 2 a try. It's some good old-school "3D" fighting fun. Tekken 1 was more like an introduction to a new fighting game style and wasn't very deep (still fun though).
thedeityofhardcore
11-01-2009, 08:26 PM
I've been playing the 360 version off and on this week, and I'm not entirely impressed by it.
I'm beginning to think I should stick to the odd numbered games in the series. I missed out on the first 2 games, but I loved 3, hated 4, loved 5(DR), and I'm only so-so about 6 thus far.
Visually, the game seems like it's lacking polish. VF5 still looks much better, as does SC4. I'm not a big fan of the destructible stages either, they seem very unnecessary and feel like a cheap novelty. I don't like that ridiculous single player campaign mode either. I'm not happy about being forced to play through it to unlock stuff.
I'll give it more of a chance, but I should have got the PS3 version. I'm used to playing Tekken on a PS controller, and the 360 controller blows.
Any word on how good the PSP version is?
4 was an odd numbered game technically 4 was the 5th game.
BLAH
Also turn motion blur off, it speeds the game up and makes the graphics a lot better.
kai123
11-02-2009, 04:33 PM
I am in hate with the game right now based just on scenario mode. I don't like most of the new characters. Either make a fighting game or make an adventure game. It is really simple pick one or the other. I wouldn't mind scenario mode if it actually helped me improve my fighting skills. I just bash buttons to get through campaign because it is the only way to unlock anything. Plus Azazel is a waste of time. You can't throw him he is incredibly cheap and is just a pain in the ass. I don't even know what the story is for any of the characters. To be honest I feel lost in this game most of the time. I try to play online or arcade mode as much as I can because that is where the game truly is for me. The rest of it is just a waste of disc space.
I am really starting to understand it when people say that some Japanese developers have really lost touch on making a fun game. Don't get me wrong I am playing the hell out of Demon's Souls and love it because it punishes me for my mistakes without feeling cheap. That is my rant for Tekken 6. Everything else is fine but scenario mode and the laggy online.
Nebagram
11-02-2009, 06:04 PM
Ugh, scenario mode can kiss my arse. It feels like a staggeringly cheap version of Mortal Kombat's conquest mode... only not as good. (As Deception's sublime story mode- DA's and Armageddon's also sucked.) Ah well, there's still arcade mode...
Not as good as Tekken 5, not by a long shot. Disappointing.
Edit: I haven't fought Azazel yet, but it'll be interesting to see how they managed to make a character even cheaper than Jinpachi without giving him the power to remotely switch off your controller.
kai123
11-02-2009, 08:15 PM
Ugh, scenario mode can kiss my arse. It feels like a staggeringly cheap version of Mortal Kombat's conquest mode... only not as good. (As Deception's sublime story mode- DA's and Armageddon's also sucked.) Ah well, there's still arcade mode...
Not as good as Tekken 5, not by a long shot. Disappointing.
Edit: I haven't fought Azazel yet, but it'll be interesting to see how they managed to make a character even cheaper than Jinpachi without giving him the power to remotely switch off your controller.
Jinpachi is a cake walk compared to Azazel. It is one of the most annoying bosses in history. You can't tell if he is open to an attack or not. You can't do anything you normally do. It is beyond annoying. I also consider myself to be a pretty good tekken player. It just seems like they are stuck in the ps2 era with almost everything they thought they were improving. The core game is still really good to me. Just all the bullshit that is surrounding it is a huge turn off. Also I don't understand the fucking need to add projectiles in a game that traditionally doesnt have them. What happened to an end boss that I wanted to unlock and play as? I don't know what mode to play where I don't get pissed off about something that is broken. It's just sad and most of the "reviews" I have read mention none of this like they were paid for the review. So yea.
kaedesdisciple
11-03-2009, 06:01 PM
Apparently the key to beating the lag is to play as Steve and mash the punch buttons over and over to rack up wins. 3 of my last 5 ranked fights were to Steves, and I just lost my 4th Dan because of it (demotion is such bullshit). The bitch of it is his attacks come out crazy quick and with the lag even when I react it's always too late. Between the online crap and the stupendously bad campaign this game is getting more disappointing by the day.
Gabriel
11-03-2009, 06:30 PM
Buh?
I don't understand the hate for Scenario Mode. Right after Versus, it's my favorite game mode. My only complaint is that a buddy can't join me for co-op smackdown.
Mr Mort
11-03-2009, 10:20 PM
Buh?
I don't understand the hate for Scenario Mode. Right after Versus, it's my favorite game mode. My only complaint is that a buddy can't join me for co-op smackdown.
Call me crazy, but maybe folks hate on the Scenario mode because they bought a fighting game, and don't want to play a questionable-quality beat-em-up in order to unlock additional backgrounds, outfits, etc.
I don't care for the scenario mode at all. I wish you could unlock items by playing against ghosts, like in Tekken 5 or VF5.
Blitzwing256
11-03-2009, 11:00 PM
scenario mode was awesome (played all the way through in 2 sittings) now just need to do all the extra stuff in it,
and all you whining that you can't unlock stuff outside of scenario mode DO know that stuff unlocks over time and amount of time you play differnt modes right? (including endings). Definatly the best fighting game i've played in years (soul calibur might be a few points above it..maybe)
also I havn't seen this problem with lag myself, I only had one laggy match and it was to an eddy player (fucking hate eddy). eitherway solid game.
grolt
11-03-2009, 11:12 PM
Call me crazy, but maybe folks hate on the Scenario mode because they bought a fighting game, and don't want to play a questionable-quality beat-em-up in order to unlock additional backgrounds, outfits, etc.
I don't care for the scenario mode at all. I wish you could unlock items by playing against ghosts, like in Tekken 5 or VF5.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the scenario mode prevalent in Tekken 3? I remember having to go through that ("CHICKEN!") to unlock some of the ending videos, so it shouldn't be anything new. I thought it was a fun twist and a lot better than just forcing you to beat the game with every character as per usual with fighters.
Nirvana
11-04-2009, 01:32 AM
Haha, Tekken Force in Tekken 3 was awesome. I would just use Paul and do his QCF -> HP. Awesome times. And of course, the CHICKEN!
Anyway, I'm enjoying the hell out of Tekken 6. I haven't played played much online. I've played two ranked matches and won them both because people just don't know how to block low and Nina has some sweet mixups o_O The scenario mode ain't bad. It is kinda repetitive, but meh.
DP ServBot
11-04-2009, 06:40 PM
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Those of you taking your King of the Iron Fist Tournament fighters to the internet have been experiencing some major issues, notably: when trying to compete online in any sort of meaningful way, you're met with acute, game-ending connectivity issues. Namco recognized that today and issued a statement stating, "To improve the online game experience for players ... Namco Bandai games is developing a downloadable update which will be available as soon as it has passed rigorous testing procedures."
Unfortunately, no date for the patch has been given, though the publisher does add, "This is separate from the online co-op Scenario Campaign mode (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/19/tekken-6-trailer-doles-out-story-scenario-mode-no-sense/) update." We've pestered Namco for more details on exactly what the patch will aim to fix and when we might hear more about it but, until that time, know this: something is being fixed at some point.http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/http://www.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif (http://www.joystiq.com)Tekken 6 online patch in the works, says Namco (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/04/tekken-6-online-patch-in-the-works-says-namco/) originally appeared on Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com) on Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:20:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds (http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/).
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kai123
11-04-2009, 06:46 PM
It seems like everyone who loves scenario mode must not really care about fighting games. I wish more fighting games would add a really shitty component that is only tailored towards about 5 characters total. I play as nina but then I am lars all of a sudden then back to nina. I don't care about lars at all. That's why I am not playing as him. IDK call me old fashioned but I like the story mode to be about oh i don't know the character I am actually playing as. Namco can suck my balls until they patch this shit up. Yes we should all wait around until the game unlocks everything for us that is so much more fun than I don't know actually playing it and working towards something. I can sit in one mode all day and unlock only a couple of things or force myself to slug through scenario mode. IDK they have just lost touch with what is actually fun.
I considered tekken force and the others to be a fun "bonus" not a true component to the game. IDK whatever. Anyone who doesn't lag is very lucky and I wish my games didn't lag like they do. So I am stuck with trying to play online and fucking my rank up on characters I like to play as or just spam with another character.
Blitzwing256
11-04-2009, 07:06 PM
It seems like everyone who loves scenario mode must not really care about fighting games. I wish more fighting games would add a really shitty component that is only tailored towards about 5 characters total. I play as nina but then I am lars all of a sudden then back to nina. I don't care about lars at all. That's why I am not playing as him. IDK call me old fashioned but I like the story mode to be about oh i don't know the character I am actually playing as. Namco can suck my balls until they patch this shit up. Yes we should all wait around until the game unlocks everything for us that is so much more fun than I don't know actually playing it and working towards something. I can sit in one mode all day and unlock only a couple of things or force myself to slug through scenario mode. IDK they have just lost touch with what is actually fun.
I considered tekken force and the others to be a fun "bonus" not a true component to the game. IDK whatever. Anyone who doesn't lag is very lucky and I wish my games didn't lag like they do. So I am stuck with trying to play online and fucking my rank up on characters I like to play as or just spam with another character.
dude I think you need a hug?
but yeah you can unlock the endings for each individual charecter in scenario mode by going to the arena and playing through that with each of them (basicly its a short version of arcade)
kai123
11-04-2009, 09:04 PM
dude I think you need a hug?
but yeah you can unlock the endings for each individual charecter in scenario mode by going to the arena and playing through that with each of them (basicly its a short version of arcade)
Yea I know about arena. I wouldn't mind a hug. :) LOL I just really love Tekken and I hate that they wasted so much time on things that at the the end of the day do nothing to improve the core fighting game. I can't wait for the patch!
thedeityofhardcore
11-05-2009, 11:57 AM
Here's some pretty retarded fanboyism
Look at These You Tube profiles:
http://www.youtube.com/user/VirtuaFighter5R
there's another one
http://www.youtube.com/user/TekkenIsSHiT
The catch...they STILL hated on me when I said I LIKED Virtua Fighter, but I think Tekken is Superior
Retsudo
11-06-2009, 11:13 PM
I bought it. Do I like it? Yes. Im just not crazy about the scenario mode. The game looks ok and play just fine too me.
Juganawt
11-07-2009, 11:38 AM
Well...let me first state that I have never, EVER liked Tekken. However, I have played all 8 major iterations of the franchise quite a lot that shaped my opinions. I tried to like em all, I really did, but Tekken 2 was the closest I ever got to tolerating the series.
Tekken 6 is the worst Tekken game so far for the following reasons.
The online play is a mere afterthought, with seemingly random patches of lag completely ruining the game. Sometimes I can play against US players with zero lag, but playing my brother who lives half a mile away caused us to play a slideshow. It's horrific netcode - even worse than Soul Calibur IV or even Tekken DR on PSN - and WAY below the standard that Virtua Fighter 5 and Dead or Alive 4 set for online play.
Scenario mode is a complete waste of time. Endless waves of generic levels, with generic enemies, and generic textures to unlock generic new colours of clothing for your generic characters that nobody really cares about. A pathetic excuse for a story is mercilessly crushed inbetween the "action" in forms of cutscenes that break the flow of gameplay and add 15 seconds of loading before and after the movie. Why do some of the characters speak japanese, some speak english, some don't speak at all, and yet they can understand and communicate with each other perfectly? Add that to the 1997 N64 Castevania camera from hell and you have an utterly unenjoyable waste of space. 2 years to make this pile of shit? REALLY???? There's not even 2 Player online support! in 2009! Scenario is 2 players on 1 console only.
The bugs from TEKKEN 2 are STILL in the game. You can still chicken throw, you can still mash circle or Y endlessly without the opponent being able to recover, and you can still infinite combo with certain characters.
The new characters, Bob in particular, are ridiculously powerful and have created an SS tier in the character roster...yet some of the old characters have been weakened to a ridiculously pathetic level. The "balancing" of this game is completely off and is laughable. Bob for example can hit you with not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 infinite hit combos, each firing off at different heights, making it basically impossible to get away from...and if you DO manage to reverse the first hit, Bob will just laugh at you and either tap the Y button, or throw reverse you.
The ghost and arcade modes are ripped straight from Virtua Fighter's Quest mode, and implemented stupidly. The whole Rank system is effectively neutered, and brings nothing to the table. You can obviously tell they saw VF5 release, and thought "yeah we can steal this...but how can we make it different? I know, we'll take the tournaments and all the interesting stuff OUT!" Ranking matches even crop up against the BONUS character - Nancy...which leads us to...
Rubber Band AI - the main characters in single player are mind numbingly dumb, but the bonus character and the boss are SO cheap that if you get caught with a single hit, half your health is gone, you're left wide open for a combo, and you're fucked. No matter how you change your gameplan, the game cheats to artificially improve the "AI", which infact is NOT AI, but merely reacts to your button inputs.
The graphics suck. A 2 year old arcade game ported badly. Horrible effects (with exception of Azazel's rather lovely looking motion blur) actually lower the resolution to sub HD levels, and if you DO disable the effects, you're left with a jaggy mess at a mere 720p.
It's Tekken. Same shit, different number on the end. Stick with Virtua Fighter 5, DOA 4 or SFIV. There's no need for Tekken and games of it's calibur in this day and age anymore. No amount of patching can fix this garbage.
kupomogli
05-17-2010, 03:17 PM
Is anyone still playing online. Does it still lag a lot after the patch?
The 1 2 P
05-17-2010, 07:55 PM
I've never experienced any lag playing Tekken 6 on xbox live. Theres still people that play and I need to finish getting all of my achievemenst one of these days.