Saturn voted most collectible system by

[ianoid]

me.

Go ahead and talk me out of it.

[ianoid]

Seriously, Saturn is the next Intellivision.

To Twitter with that~

[portnoyd]

You be tripping.

[ianoid]

C'mon man the collection is tight. And that's a good size collection. Keep it to 300. I'm not saying it's the most fun system. But then again, neither is the Intellivision. But both have some quality shit and troublesome boxes.

[Richter Belmount]

me.

Go ahead and talk me out of it.


Thatll do pig , thatll do

[Lemmi_Is_God]

nope, not going to talk you out of it

its a great system and its better than the playstation, but then again i think everything else ever made is better than the playstation ;)

[Gameguy]

I'm confused, you said that the Saturn is the most collectible system but then you compared it to the Intellivision which isn't really all that collectible. I guess it makes sense, both have good stuff but both aren't really all that collectible compared to other systems out there. More people collect for the NES, SNES, Atari 2600, or Genesis than the Saturn or Intellivision. I don't have a Saturn or Intellivision myself, it seems to me there's only a small handful of games I'd want for them.

[Baloo]

Saturn is a very import-based system. It's American library isn't that great in that most of it's games are also available on the Playstation. There are some gems in there though.

It is a rather collected system for though, as there are a good amount of titles on both Saturn and Playstation that go for more on Saturn. See:

Rayman
Tomb Raider
Resident Evil
Etc.

If I had to pick a system that was most collectible, it would probably be SNES.

[thedeityofhardcore]

What about PC Engine?

I'm only getting a saturn becuase the emus for it SUCK

[Baloo]

What about PC Engine?

PC Engine is really high-end and import-based, like Neo Geo.

It's too expensive to be the most collectible.

[Ed Oscuro]

I'm only getting a saturn becuase the emus for it SUCK
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~phantasy/ssf/index.html

Works perfectly for me whenever I want to slip in Guardian Force, a very nice little shooter (with a tank and also a proper scoring system, hooray). It would also be a nice way for me to play my copy of Elevator Action Returns.

Lots of games on the Saturn worth a person's attention - not as many as on the PlayStation, and it's iffy if anybody would buy many of the arcade ports when often they are MAME'd well and occasionally the PSX does them better (rarely enough though). But I feel that a lot of the Saturn's games have some staying power, partly due to that arcade-centrism. There's no beating the PlayStation's library for scope, but the Saturn has Psychic Killer Taromaru (which I still have to get).


It's too expensive to be the most collectible.
Since when was money any object for the collector? The PC-E is one of my favorite systems, and I have a fair number of games for it too.


me.

Go ahead and talk me out of it.
Please don't buy the games I want to play and then not play them...that's hypocritical of me, but I still ought to say it. :B

[AB Positive]

what other system offers the best Capcom and SNK fighters some great RPGs and hentai mahjong.

Hentai Mahjong.

Seriously, Saturn wins for that. Also - I have one "retro controller" usb for my PC. It's the saturn pad - best controller ever.

[Ed Oscuro]

Also - I have one "retro controller" usb for my PC. It's the saturn pad - best controller ever.
I have three XD

The d-pad is a bit too sensitive (leading me sometimes to accidentally input movement 180 degrees from where I want it, although I can't say it's not responsive), and the shoulders a bit tough to press. Besides that, it's a nice controller.

[Sonicwolf]

Is it just me or has there been a rash of "Prove me wrong" style threads lately...

[klausien]

I think you meant PC Engine ;)

That said, I think the Saturn is the successor if you are into imports.

[smork]

PC Engine is really high-end and import-based, like Neo Geo.

It's too expensive to be the most collectible.

98% of PC Engine is cheaper than dirt, sold in huge lots because nobody wants all those extra games. Hardly the same as Neo Geo, which has a few reasonably priced games but a good 50% of the available titles are $$$. Even $$$$ or $$$$$$$.

I love the Neo Geo, but PC Engine pounds it into mush when it comes to affordable collectability.

[Diatribal Deity]

C'mon man the collection is tight. And that's a good size collection. Keep it to 300. I'm not saying it's the most fun system. But then again, neither is the Intellivision. But both have some quality shit and troublesome boxes.

Hinting at 300 suggests you are more heavily if not entirely focusing on the US releases. Thus your argument is pretty sound. All US titles are for the most part easily obtained and the library is pretty well balanced across all genres.

There could be many an argument for other systems (as there already has), but when it comes to completion, cost, and balance it gets my vote as well!

[ianoid]

I don't know if you guys have seen Intellivision prices lately. There are about 10 games that are fetching crazy prices. The top 10 Intellivision games get over $200 complete in box. Some way more. It's unexpected.

I'm not saying that Saturn will go there, but it probably hasn't reached peak value. Perhaps it will take another 10-15 years, like Intellivision has.

There are a lot of 2600 collectors out there. But the system is a pain to collect for. There are a bunch of high end items that cost thousands. There are tons of unreleased games and PAL only games. Endless pirates and stupid stuff to get. Coming from me, and I have over 3000 unique 2600 carts, it's kind of a stupid system to collect. You're never finished.

I think that the smaller libraries will be more attractive to get into to future collectors. Turbo-grafx has to be up there too, but so much of the library is kind of expensive. For a system to be collectible as a whole, I think that most of it has to be relatively cheap to get complete in box, then the last dozen or so titles tempt you into overspending.

When you look at a system with 1000 games, there is a huge space commitment and usually 100s of sports and irrelevant titles. I think there will be more interest in Saturn and Dreamcast in the future, than in larger collections like PS2, PS1, Genesis or even SMS. SMS is another endless collection if you do the non-North America stuff and you live in North America. Too painful to bother for most folks.

There is a good balance of easy to find games and hard to find games, to make the collecting somewhat interesting. And those stupid Saturn boxes will give you upgrade potential and stir the market for commons, just for cases.

I didn't see all the prove me wrong posts, I thought this would be sort of fun, as an idea. I'm not a hundred percent on Saturn being most collectible, like it's the best thing around. I just like the idea. I especially like the idea that something is the next Intellivision, I think it's kind of funny. One of the problems with my comparison is that Intellivision has that weird hardware stuff, like the Keyboard component, which is an order of magnitude or two harder than anything to get ahold of.

I don't really include foreign libraries in the 'collectible' realm for someone in North America. The PCE and Jap Sat libraries are massive. There's not so much a 'collectible' as a culture. You pretty much have to learn Japanese or spend forever researching titles. And my definition of 'collectible' entails something having a certain level of popularity and attraction that will inspire a significant number of people to what to get the whole library for a system. A 'collectible' system with inspire collecting for collecting's sake. Not getting a bunch of great titles because you're going to play them for 10 hours and then sell them or stack them. There are a lot of definitions inherent in this type of arguement, and I haven't quite made them all clear.

I find it very easy to separate the two activities of 'collecting' and 'gaming' these days. Some of you may not experience that as a clear line.

[Kid Ice]

The cracked cases drive me up a wall.

[Arkhan]

I love the saturn. I remember sitting and playing Galactic Attack with the steering wheel set for hours with my one friend. Its hilarious.

Most sysetms that aren't current have become collectible, so I dont know what factors decide which is the most collectible.

I can say for one though that the PCE isn't some expensive import mess.



on a side note: why the hell did sega cd and saturn stuff come in those ginormous cases in the US? They're stupid as hell and take up way too much space.

[Icarus Moonsight]

me.

Go ahead and talk me out of it.

I can't without contradicting myself. Anytime I happen on a Saturn, I must make it mine! LOL I have more Saturns than any other console. Yes, more than even NESs or Gennies... combined. O_O

[Ed Oscuro]

I don't know if you guys have seen Intellivision prices lately. There are about 10 games that are fetching crazy prices. The top 10 Intellivision games get over $200 complete in box. Some way more. It's unexpected.

I'm not saying that Saturn will go there, but it probably hasn't reached peak value. Perhaps it will take another 10-15 years, like Intellivision has.
The top Saturn games are already there, man. Taromaru is waaaaay more than $200. Hyper Duel is there. I can't think of any others at the moment but a lot of games fetch $50+ regularly (Konami's Deluxe Packs, like the Salamander Deluxe Pack should; Elevator Action Returns). Finding the domestic Saturn version of Contra - Legacy of War, especially complete with the 3D glasses, is not only difficult but expensive ($70+ last I checked, although I'm not sure it warrants that price).


I don't really include foreign libraries in the 'collectible' realm for someone in North America. The PCE and Jap Sat libraries are massive. There's not so much a 'collectible' as a culture. You pretty much have to learn Japanese or spend forever researching titles.
What is this I don't even

If you like good games, you'll pick up some imports along the way. It's that simple. None of the games I've mentioned in my posts here requires Japanese knowledge; few of the Saturn's good arcade ports or action games really do. Shienryu, Wolf Fang, Battle Garegga come to mind (I'd say In The Hunt / Kaitei Daisensou as well, but it's the Saturn port, not the PSX, that has slowdown).

But hey, if you want to leave me all the good titles on Saturn, feel free.

[gameofyou]

Saturn is definately my favorite system. I have a Collector Guide (with videos) that you can download for free:
http://www.gamingenterprisesinc.com/Saturn_CD/saturn.html

I have put most of the videos (6 volumes) on Youtube also: http://www.youtube.com/user/gameofyou1

What I like about the Saturn are all the awesome arcade ports.

[portnoyd]

I think your opinion is wrong because it's wrong. So there.

[Sonicwolf]

I think your opinion is wrong because it's wrong. So there.

You forgot to quote his comment about talking him out of it and reply "NO U"

[delafro]

Best import console, maybe, but I just don't see it as far as the domestic releases go. Not enough depth of interesting, exclusive, hard to find games.

[LaughingMAN.S9]

<<< proud owner of "this is cool" smoke grey sega saturn....yup, THAT just HAPPENED! :cool:

[ApolloBoy]

PC Engine is really high-end and import-based, like Neo Geo.

It's too expensive to be the most collectible.

I collect for the PCE and I can tell you right away that it's nowhere as expensive as AES collecting. What made you think this?