New RPG for TG16 - Mysterious Song! [Archive]

Keranu

11-13-2009, 06:55 PM

Click here - http://www.frozenutopia.com/index.html

Pre-orders for the long awaited RPG "Mysterious Song" for the Turbo Grafx 16 Super CD are finally open! This is a full game complete with old skool, hand drawn cinematic sequences and voice acting [that doesn't suck!]. Slated for a March 1st, 2010 release. First 25 pre-orders come with a special collector's item.

http://www.frozenutopia.com/images/msong-3.png

http://www.frozenutopia.com/images/msong-cin2.png

http://www.frozenutopia.com/images/msong-8.png

RoyVegas

11-13-2009, 06:58 PM

My orders already in..... Looks great so far!

Press_Start

11-13-2009, 07:13 PM

RPGs + TG16 = WIN! :D

Already made my preorder. Though it'd helps to have a link. ;)

Frozen Utopia (http://www.frozenutopia.com/index.html)

Blitzwing256

11-13-2009, 07:42 PM

unlike that shovelware looking berserk clone, this actually looks like something that could be interesting, I'll add it to the watch list :-)

ae.tc

11-13-2009, 08:11 PM

Looks good!

Oldskool

11-13-2009, 08:13 PM

Hey man, don't talk crap about Insanity. It's actually quite a good game, and impressive considering it was done pretty much by one person, and still took a year. Shovelware.. hahahaahaha

Not only that, but he basically had to figure out how to program for the TG16 from the ground up since there is really no documentation available for it. The music he had to build his own software just to make music for it, it's not something you can whip together with a tracker.

Game looks great! Can't wait to see what the final product will look like.

Oldskool

11-13-2009, 08:14 PM

Hey Blitz, noticed you are in LV, maybe you should stop by and check out Insanity sometime.

swlovinist

11-13-2009, 08:39 PM

I preordered this one. Looks promising.

Keranu

11-14-2009, 12:11 AM

Big thanks to everyone who pre-ordered so far! All proceeds will go to cover production costs and for future titles (there are currently three under development).

RPGs + TG16 = WIN! :D

Already made my preorder. Though it'd helps to have a link. ;)

Frozen Utopia (http://www.frozenutopia.com/index.html)
Doh! Thanks for reminding me, don't know how I forgot about that!

unlike that shovelware looking berserk clone, this actually looks like something that could be interesting, I'll add it to the watch list :-)
Insanity is a really cool game, definitely just as much worth looking into as this, unless you simply don't like Berzerk. As Oldskool pointed out, Insanity did something HUGE in the TG16 indie scene by creating a quality PSG player. If you've ever checked out the old sound demos people made before, you'd know a few bleeps and bloops was about all there really was :D .

I would also like to take this opportunity to hint that there is quite a few hidden extras within Mysterious Song, one of them including a nifty, polished little game :) .

Blitzwing256

11-14-2009, 12:23 AM

Big thanks to everyone who pre-ordered so far! All proceeds will go to cover production costs and for future titles (there are currently three under development).

Doh! Thanks for reminding me, don't know how I forgot about that!

Insanity is a really cool game, definitely just as much worth looking into as this, unless you simply don't like Berzerk. As Oldskool pointed out, Insanity did something HUGE in the TG16 indie scene by creating a quality PSG player. If you've ever checked out the old sound demos people made before, you'd know a few bleeps and bloops was about all there really was :D .

I would also like to take this opportunity to hint that there is quite a few hidden extras within Mysterious Song, one of them including a nifty, polished little game :) .

oh I understand it being a milestone, and i'm VERY exstatic to see the tg16 getting some love, but judging it as a game on the system it looked very subpar compared to the rest of the lineup (i watched some of the videos that were posted awile back) it reminded me alot of those 8 billion in 1 cds you'd get for the pc with slight varients of popular games, perhaps i'm not giving it a fair shake, but wasn't impressed from what I saw.

Blitzwing256

11-14-2009, 12:27 AM

Hey Blitz, noticed you are in LV, maybe you should stop by and check out Insanity sometime.

i'm open to giving it another shot since everyone seems to be giving it praise, perhaps I judged a book by its cover?\
(sorry for thread jacking btw, back on topic please everyone :-) )

Keranu

11-14-2009, 12:30 AM

oh I understand it being a milestone, and i'm VERY exstatic to see the tg16 getting some love, but judging it as a game on the system it looked very subpar compared to the rest of the lineup (i watched some of the videos that were posted awile back) it reminded me alot of those 8 billion in 1 cds you'd get for the pc with slight varients of popular games, perhaps i'm not giving it a fair shake, but wasn't impressed from what I saw.

You can download a demo for it on the Insanity page (http://www.aetherbyte.com/insanity.htm) to try it out. The music and sound effects are really cool and the controls are ace. Plus it has a boss fight at the end and some really neat hidden extra variations of the game :) . Compared to the previous two homebrew Turbo games by MindRec, it's a big leap of improvement.

Ze_ro

11-14-2009, 01:00 AM

Preorder in!

... but what about shipping price? Is that included, or is that getting worked out later?

--Zero

Keranu

11-14-2009, 01:23 AM

Preorder in!

... but what about shipping price? Is that included, or is that getting worked out later?

--Zero
Thanks for the pre-order! Shipping costs will be worked out after the game is pressed. :)

darkweb

11-14-2009, 03:45 AM

I'm enjoying the recent TG16 love! Preordered it and am looking forward to playing it in March!

schnuth

11-14-2009, 04:02 AM

It looks pretty cool, I'll be sure to pick one up when it gets released! With the whole Pier Solar fiasco I will never pre-order a homebrew game again.

Keranu

11-14-2009, 04:16 AM

Thanks again for the pre-orders and interest!

It looks pretty cool, I'll be sure to pick one up when it gets released! With the whole Pier Solar fiasco I will never pre-order a homebrew game again.
I can certainly understand how you feel! The basic game for Mysterious Song has basically been complete for years, we're just in the process of adding the very last things and tuning it all up. We're aiming to have the final version ready by the end of the year and have the pressing order made in January. Beta testing has been going very smoothly so far with smaller bugs becoming difficult to find.

Zebbe

11-14-2009, 08:07 AM

This seems like an awesome game, I love the old school look to the graphics. I would definitely have bought it if I had a TurboGrafx-16 Super Entertainment CD-ROM-ROM System.

Oldskool

11-14-2009, 12:42 PM

You could always pop it in Magic Engine, I don't see any harm in that - if it's the original software.

wmacmonagle

11-14-2009, 02:23 PM

wow yes it s thrilled to get some new games on turbos!!! ordered!

vintagegamecrazy

11-14-2009, 02:37 PM

Definitely gotta keep an eye on this, maybe with some spare cash in the next few weeks or so.

Keranu

11-14-2009, 11:24 PM

More thanks for the pre-orders and comments!

This seems like an awesome game, I love the old school look to the graphics. I would definitely have bought it if I had a TurboGrafx-16 Super Entertainment CD-ROM-ROM System.
Mysterious Song works flawlessly in most emulators, with the exception of a very slight sprite overlay glitch in Magic Engine (which I've been testing it most with). Of course I'd always recommend buying a Turbo system just for all the other awesome games on it :D .

tonyvortex

11-15-2009, 10:47 AM

hadn't heard of any new games so i preordered this as well.Oh and out of curiosity,the site said it won't charge you till it ships but I just paid with paypal and it took the money out,does that mean when it does ship i'll be charged twice?

Dangerboy

11-15-2009, 12:42 PM

I've been waiting for a reason to bust out the ol' Duo rather than play my VC WIi versions. Pre-Order sent!

:D

Zebbe

11-15-2009, 04:09 PM

More thanks for the pre-orders and comments!

Mysterious Song works flawlessly in most emulators, with the exception of a very slight sprite overlay glitch in Magic Engine (which I've been testing it most with). Of course I'd always recommend buying a Turbo system just for all the other awesome games on it :D .

Yeah, I might get the system itself one day, if I have the money for it. I'm not really into playing on emulators.

Keranu

11-15-2009, 05:16 PM

Thanks so much for the pre-orders! Depending on who we go for pressing, it's going to cost somewhere between $1,200-1,700, so every sale helps a lot!

hadn't heard of any new games so i preordered this as well.Oh and out of curiosity,the site said it won't charge you till it ships but I just paid with paypal and it took the money out,does that mean when it does ship i'll be charged twice?
No you won't be charged $35 dollars twice. When the game is pressed and ready to ship, you'll simply be charged just the shipping amount, so just a few bucks depending on where you live.

Arkhan

11-15-2009, 09:09 PM

My preorder will be in later tonight/tomorrow :-D. Good to see the years of hardwork finally coming to completion. When the project started I was a freshman in high school! or something around that.

Soon , PCE homebrew will be the king of all retro-stuff.

:o

unlike that shovelware looking berserk clone, this actually looks like something that could be interesting, I'll add it to the watch list :-)
:o

Jee-whiz, thank you for blatantly insulting my hard work without ever actually trying the game out. Classy. That was a very rude and completely unnecessary comment. Giving props to homebrew by slamming other homebrew? c'mon. :frustrated:

A lot of work went into producing a usable and effective means to play PSG music. It's the first of it's kind. Even more work went into optimizing the game code to work well on a barely documented machine.

Being the first professionally pressed PCE CD game since 2001, complete with CD/PSG music, sampled SFX, and a few hidden features, I think calling it shovelware is :bullshit:.

What do you want for a Berzerk remake anyway? Judging ANY game by its cover (and btw, the cover for the game looks kick ass: see website), is uncool.

Homebrew needs support, not uninformed insults based off of ONE video that was posted before the game even had SFX put in.

and now, back on topic time. :wink 2:

Keranu

11-17-2009, 01:44 AM

First 25 orders have been sold! We're considering extending the collector's item to first 50 pre-orders.

Blitzwing256

11-17-2009, 09:06 AM

My preorder will be in later tonight/tomorrow :-D. Good to see the years of hardwork finally coming to completion. When the project started I was a freshman in high school! or something around that.

Soon , PCE homebrew will be the king of all retro-stuff.

:o

:o

Jee-whiz, thank you for blatantly insulting my hard work without ever actually trying the game out. Classy. That was a very rude and completely unnecessary comment. Giving props to homebrew by slamming other homebrew? c'mon. :frustrated:

A lot of work went into producing a usable and effective means to play PSG music. It's the first of it's kind. Even more work went into optimizing the game code to work well on a barely documented machine.

Being the first professionally pressed PCE CD game since 2001, complete with CD/PSG music, sampled SFX, and a few hidden features, I think calling it shovelware is :bullshit:.

What do you want for a Berzerk remake anyway? Judging ANY game by its cover (and btw, the cover for the game looks kick ass: see website), is uncool.

Homebrew needs support, not uninformed insults based off of ONE video that was posted before the game even had SFX put in.

and now, back on topic time. :wink 2:

last time i'm going to derail this thread (i promise)
I do think my comment was a bit unfair and out of line (maybe I was having a bad day...I can't really remeber)
however, based on what people have said about your game, it sounds lightyears better then my first impression and in fact...i'm going to order a copy and give it a fair shot.

back to topic take 3 ;-)

Shou

11-19-2009, 03:45 AM

First 25 orders have been sold! We're considering extending the collector's item to first 50 pre-orders.

Extend to the first 50 because I just preordered!

Keranu

11-19-2009, 05:33 AM

Extend to the first 50 because I just preordered!
Thanks for the order! I'll definitely keep you in mind whether the sale is extended or not ;) .

starsoldier1

11-20-2009, 01:36 PM

Neutopia 3!! This looks incredible! I need to start saving some cash.

Flojomojo

11-22-2009, 04:18 PM

Any chance we will see your stuff on Virtual Console? I'd love to play these, but I don't have the hardware. :-(

tomaitheous

11-22-2009, 09:04 PM

Any chance we will see your stuff on Virtual Console? I'd love to play these, but I don't have the hardware. :-(

Somehow... I just doubt it. Curious though, did any of the non license PCE games make it to VC? Like Lady Sword and some others?

PC-ENGINE HELL

05-18-2010, 04:10 PM

It seems there are issues going on with this games release. If you have pre-ordered and not been able to find info about its release, the game has been delayed to the realms of limbo until major issues are sorted out. If you are awaiting a refund, or have tried to get one, chances are you will not be issued one, according to the lead programmer. Their website account has evidently been suspended too as of today I was told, but may be back up soon if the lead programmer can get a hold of a credit card. http://www.frozenutopia.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

Part of post from lead programmer The Old Rover in regards to refunds:

We're having a problem with PayPal still. They have been refusing to hear the case, so I have been forced to hire an attorney to get them to wise up and fix the issue we currently have with them. As it stands right now, all of the money is locked up in PayPal's system and they refuse to release it, so I cannot fulfill refunds, take new orders, or even afford the pressing at the moment. Until they release the funds, our hands are tied on this matter. Of course, I'm sure a certain someone in the clique will have a grand time with this one. And to that person, I offer my middle finger, raised in salute.

More info regarding this can be found here on this thread:
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=7542.135
If you have invested in this title, and are having difficulties reaching the crew, you should join pcenginefx.com forums and let them know of your concerns as members of the crew seem to be logged in on that forum often. If Arkhan tries to speak to you directly on their behalf, ignore him. He's not their spokesman. Contact a actual Frozen Utopia member instead. Some of the members you can contact directly or via public post (if you get no response via pm) are:
Keranu
The Old Rover
ParanoiaDragon
lord_cack
Black Tiger

Keranu

05-19-2010, 07:15 PM

Thanks for updating everyone, Mike.

There is some good information for people to read in the PCEFX link that PC-ENGINE HELL posted, but beware of an obsessive amount of mud slinging.

To sum everything up here:

Mysterious Song is still in the final stages of development and we're trying the best we can to get it out as soon as possible. Major life problems behind the programmer and cinematic artists prevented the game from being released in our previously expected time frame. The cinematic art is almost complete now and the earlier sequences are being programmed with the extras to be followed. The final rounds of beta testing will be required before sending the game to the pressing plant.

Nodtveidt / The Old Rover, the leader and programmer of Frozen Utopia, has been having problems with Pay Pal and has hired a lawyer to investigate it. He has said that he is currently unable to pay any refunds via Pay Pal but may be able to work out other options if necessary. To help compensate, he will deduct shipping costs from all those who pre-ordered MSR by the time it's released and will also likely up the bonus item to the first 100 orders. Further pre-orders can not be taken at this time.

PC-ENGINE HELL

05-19-2010, 08:20 PM

Looks like the site is back up now.
http://www.frozenutopia.com/
When you guys can you should post a newer update on there of the situation just in case.

Ze_ro

05-19-2010, 08:42 PM

So... which one will come out first? Pier Solar or Mysterious Song? :P

--Zero

PC-ENGINE HELL

05-19-2010, 09:16 PM

So... which one will come out first? Pier Solar or Mysterious Song? :P

--Zero

Neither. Mega Man 37 will be developed for Pc-Engine Super Cd-Rom by Grin (newly reformed), and will guest star Super Joe battling along side Mega Man(a freshly out of the grave and resurrected Steve Blum will reprise the voice role). It will be released around 2142, at least 300 years before Mysterious Song and Pier Solar are released. All fans who pre-order now are guaranteed one free resurrection pass so they can come back from the dead to play the game. Pre-order cost is cheaper then that Final Fight barrel press kit thing. ;)

gokugohandave

11-16-2010, 06:40 PM

So uhh, any update on this game? I completely forgot about it until now. Did they get the paypal issue sorted out? Are the people who still want a copy of the game ever going to get one?

retroman

11-16-2010, 11:33 PM

i think i might wait and see some reviews first...but it does have my attention.

Wolfrider31

11-18-2010, 09:34 PM

So... which one will come out first? Pier Solar or Mysterious Song? :P

--Zero

If I had to guess, I'd say Pier Solar. That might be a hint.

That said, this game looks lovely, and we'll be sure to highlight it once the game gets closer to release. We already did the same with the super cool C64 RPG Newcomer.

VACRMH

04-01-2011, 04:07 PM

Thought I'd bump this up. If I heard correctly, the game is almost ready to go. Is this correct?

Suikoman444

09-01-2011, 10:49 AM

Hate to bump an old topic, but I just found this and am very much interested in this. Are there any updates at all on this?

Edit: their website says they are taking preorders again and that the game is completed
Edit 2: a forum post on their forum says they are expecting an early October release now.

Suikoman444

10-27-2011, 12:32 PM

I have this preordered and have been keeping tabs on their website. An update on October 18th says the game is in RC2 status and will be released soon.

djshok

10-27-2011, 12:33 PM

Shit man that looks awesome. I wish I had a TG-16 :(

Maybe I'll just buy this and hang on to it until I finally get a TG system.

Amon_Re

10-27-2011, 01:38 PM

Wait what? A new RPG for the TG16?! Do Want!

PFCHudson

10-27-2011, 04:23 PM

I'm all for new Turbo software in any form! Ordered. Any idea yet on a release date?

Colorado Rockies

10-27-2011, 04:34 PM

Just preoredered. Thanks for bumping this btw. I wonder when Neutopia 3 will be released?

Edmond Dantes

10-27-2011, 11:03 PM

Colorado Rockies

10-27-2011, 11:13 PM

Suikoman444

10-28-2011, 02:18 AM

I've got a question: Does this game have any relation to the indie computer game (http://homeoftheunderdogs.net/game.php?id=2340), or are the alike titles a complete coincidence?

And what's the pre-order bonus?

The website says it is a remake of that game, so it's not a coincidence. I've been wondering too what the bonus is, but I haven't been able to find any clues. Though, they were saying they were limiting that to the first 25 or 30 or maybe more so I have no idea if any new orders would get the item, but it would be awesome if they did.

Amon_Re

10-28-2011, 03:29 AM

The website says it is a remake of that game, so it's not a coincidence. I've been wondering too what the bonus is, but I haven't been able to find any clues. Though, they were saying they were limiting that to the first 25 or 30 or maybe more so I have no idea if any new orders would get the item, but it would be awesome if they did.

It would indeed be awesome, but I'll settle for the game, I need my RPG fix :D

swlovinist

10-28-2011, 10:03 AM

Suikoman444

10-28-2011, 12:16 PM

I ordered this so long ago, I forgot about it lol. Will there be an email out to those who preordered it? I want to make sure that I still get this one, I just have not gotten any emails about my preorder it makes me a little worried. Who do I contact to confirm my preorder?

I'd imagine you'd still get it. When I preordered I paid via paypal to admin<at>boricuagoodies.com so maybe that's a good place to ask.

synbiosfan

10-28-2011, 07:38 PM

I ordered this so long ago, I forgot about it lol. Will there be an email out to those who preordered it? I want to make sure that I still get this one, I just have not gotten any emails about my preorder it makes me a little worried. Who do I contact to confirm my preorder?

I'm in the same boat. After all this time I figured I was just another victim of an internet scam.

old man

10-28-2011, 10:53 PM

I can't believe it's coming out. I think it's been worked on for about ten years now, and the dude making it has been saying it was 99% done for about five now.

turbofan1

10-30-2011, 05:32 AM

I can't believe it's coming out. I think it's been worked on for about ten years now, and the dude making it has been saying it was 99% done for about five now.

Two or three years ago he was taking pre orders on this game,saying it was almost complete.Than he disappeared for A length of time.When some of the people wanted there money back,he said he lost his job,his computer crashed,paypal wouldn't release the funds back.Than he was blaming some other dude that was supposed to be drawing cinemas.I think i would wait until he actually shows the finished project.

xelement5x

10-31-2011, 02:47 PM

Two or three years ago he was taking pre orders on this game,saying it was almost complete.Than he disappeared for A length of time.When some of the people wanted there money back,he said he lost his job,his computer crashed,paypal wouldn't release the funds back.Than he was blaming some other dude that was supposed to be drawing cinemas.I think i would wait until he actually shows the finished project.

There are screen shots released, and I've talked with people who are playing the current build right now for QC and testing. I believe one reason it's taking so long is that because since it's a pressed disc he wants to make sure that all bugs and issues are addressed, since once it's sent to manufacture there it no chance to do a recall without a huge monetary hit.

jb143

10-31-2011, 03:17 PM

There is a saying in indie game development that goes something along the lines of "the last 10% is 90% of the work". In other words, you can be almost done and still have a lot to do. I seriously doubt this is a scam. My guess is that they simply didn't estimate how much work and time it took to actually finish making a game like this. "Finish" as in taking an almost complete game and getting it shipped out the door.

Amon_Re

10-31-2011, 03:19 PM

And if he doesn't deliver, there's always the goon with the baseball bat on craigslist

Wolfrider31

10-31-2011, 05:57 PM

There are screen shots released, and I've talked with people who are playing the current build right now for QC and testing. I believe one reason it's taking so long is that because since it's a pressed disc he wants to make sure that all bugs and issues are addressed, since once it's sent to manufacture there it no chance to do a recall without a huge monetary hit.

This. Speaking from first hand experience with all the trouble we had during Pier Solar's development I'd say it's worth the risk and just be patient with the development process. If you're really concerned with what is going to happen to your cash, wait until it's closer to the release date.

Also, and I'm repeating something I said often during PS's development, it's really difficult to estimate ETA for an indie project. In a real development environment you always have 40 hours per week per employee and a general idea of how long a particular task is going to take. Once you do the math you can estimate how many man hours it's going to take. Not so on an indie project. One week you might have 20 hours of free time and the next week you might have three. It's really difficult to plan a development schedule around that kind of fluctuation.

Amon_Re

10-31-2011, 06:34 PM

This. Speaking from first hand experience with all the trouble we had during Pier Solar's development I'd say it's worth the risk and just be patient with the development process. If you're really concerned with what is going to happen to your cash, wait until it's closer to the release date.

Also, and I'm repeating something I said often during PS's development, it's really difficult to estimate ETA for an indie project. In a real development environment you always have 40 hours per week per employee and a general idea of how long a particular task is going to take. Once you do the math you can estimate how many man hours it's going to take. Not so on an indie project. One week you might have 20 hours of free time and the next week you might have three. It's really difficult to plan a development schedule around that kind of fluctuation.

Speaking of Pier Solar, seeing as I don't have a Genesis laying around, does it work on clones? I'm waiting for another production run, would be cool to know if I can run this on a clone or if I'll need to dig up a Genesis

BenG76

10-31-2011, 08:25 PM

I went and ordered this the other day after seeing this thread and reading some on pcenginefx . I hope it comes out fairly soon. My order said something like 2nd Wave. Am I right it may be different from the ones people will get that preordered earlier?

Policenaut

11-02-2011, 08:15 PM

Preordered mine! :)

c0ldb33r

11-02-2011, 08:54 PM

this thread started long ago.

Is this thing safe to order or what?

Amon_Re

11-03-2011, 06:41 AM

this thread started long ago.

Is this thing safe to order or what?

Maybe.

chrisbid

11-03-2011, 09:39 AM

ive read burned CDs are not ideal for turbo duos, is this game professionally pressed?

Amon_Re

11-03-2011, 11:14 AM

That was the idea I believe

xelement5x

11-03-2011, 05:37 PM

ive read burned CDs are not ideal for turbo duos, is this game professionally pressed?

Yes, it'll be a pressed CD, that's why development and testing is such a big deal before release.

Policenaut

11-03-2011, 07:25 PM

this thread started long ago.

Is this thing safe to order or what?

It is safe to preorder; in fact, today I contacted David Perry (owner of Frozen Utopia) and his wife Elsie through the Boricua Goodies site, and they confirmed it. Boricua Goodies is a export and shipping company that specializes in exporting mostly Puerto Rican Rican products to the Continental U.S and other countries.

They live pretty close to my house, about a 40 minutes drive, I got an invitation from them and it is quite possibly that I will do the travel and see the game in its final stages before going gold. ;)