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[portnoyd]

Have you checked AVSforum.com? That'd be a good place to start.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=558125

[tomwaits]

At the risk of sounding like 'everyone'... I think CRT TVs are really the best way to go for gaming. Picture is brighter, crisper, and no lag. I got a 29" RGB monitor for my game room a few months ago and everything looks incredible. Much better than my brother's expensive LCD.

[8-bitNesMan]

I got a 29" RGB monitor for my game room a few months ago and everything looks incredible.

Anthony1? Is that you?? :D

[Red Warrior]

Have you checked AVSforum.com? That'd be a good place to start.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=558125

That was a really helpful and interesting read. At least now I know why lag exists and what to look for when trying to minimize it. Thanks for posting that link.

[BetaWolf47]

I found that on my super awesome Samsung unit - that when playing Super Mario Bros. 3 via the Wii Virtual Console, that the amount of time between pressing the jump button and seeing Mario actually jump was long laggy enough to really mess up the gaming experience.

Someone told me that Samsung units have a "game" mode which alleviates this. It changes the scaling or something so that there's no delay.

[PapaStu]

Someone told me that Samsung units have a "game" mode which alleviates this. It changes the scaling or something so that there's no delay.

And he mentions this... in the paragraph above the one you quoted.



I would like to purchase a 46" LCD TV. I had a Samsung and the unit's game lag was quite annoying, even in Game Mode. I'm looking for 240 hz (120 would be fine I guess) but the most important part is that I'm trying to get a TV that has 4 mili-seconds (or less) of lag.

[portnoyd]

He's looking for a TV with a really peppy graphics chipset in it. Only problem is the TV might not be as nice for movies as one with a mediocre chipset.

I'd honestly get a quality TV (Samsung or Sony, no other brand) and dig up a XRGB2+.

[Ze_ro]

At the risk of sounding like 'everyone'... I think CRT TVs are really the best way to go for gaming. Picture is brighter, crisper, and no lag.
I agree with this. A year or so back, my main TV died on it and I replaced it with an HDTV, mostly to use with my 360... it looked *great* with the 360, but everything else looked downright awful on it. Completely ruined the experience of playing SNES or NeoGeo games, as the excellent 2D graphics just got completely destroyed when my TV tried to upscale to it's native resolution.

I ended up getting a free CRT TV through my job... now I keep all my older systems hooked up to that, and keep the HDTV for my 360 (and perhaps any future HD consoles I get). I think that, as much trouble as it is, the answer really is to own two TV's.

--Zero

[The Clonus Horror]

I bought a 42" Panasonic 720p TV and I fiddled with the settings enough that everything 480i up to 720p looks good. Even when hooking up my NES there was no lag, but it didn't look as good as it did on a CRT. So, I also keep everything from the 2600 to the N64 hooked up to the CRT, and the PS2, Xbox, and 360 to the Panasonic.

[DonMarco]

Get a huge rear-projection TV. They're on their way out, no real profit margin like with LCDs and plasmas. If you can deal with the size and depth, they're awesome.

[RCM]

I have this and would only trade it for a 60 inch Kuro!

http://reviews.cnet.com/direct-view-tvs-crt/sony-kd-34xbr960/4505-6481_7-30787600.html

I use S-video for my classic consoles (DC, Saturn, Genesis, SNES, N64, Jaguar, etc.) component for PS2, Xbox, Xbox 360 and Wii and HDMI for PS3. I used a Blu Ray disc to tweak the colors and have yet to witness a TV that truly trumps it. The downside is that it's bulky, heavy, and only 34 inches. But like the review above says, it's for people who care about picture first. All the consoles look great and there's zero lag I've detected (and I'm a bitch about that stuff). I picked it up on clearance from Circuit City in 2007 for $600 and am thrilled with my purchase. Did I mention I love this TV?

Also, I haven't been overly impressed with 120hz displays. I watched a few movies on my brother's set and felt like I was rollin' on E.

[Sherblock]

I have a 76" Mitsubishi rear projection, and I love it! Playing games like BF 1943 and MW2 5 feet away makes you feel dizzy! However, it makes Wii games terrible. My "older" systems are upstairs on my 42" Samsung Plasma, and that's great to! In about 1-2 years my dad and I are hoping to get a 100".

All in all I'd say go for a 42". They are cheap now, especially used, and with some good speakers get you a very nice experience.

[WCP]

I can't really answer the original post, but I can say that I wouldn't advise spending a ton of cash on a high-end set right now. Reason being, the 240hz TV's don't have 240hz inputs. If you're going to drop huge coin on a display, then wait until the tv's with true 240hz inputs come along. I think it requires HDMI 1.4 .

Why does 240hz inputs matter? Well, supposedly, if everything goes towards 3D, which is a big if, then TV's with 240hz inputs will be the ones to have, because they will be capable of rendering two 120hz images simultaneously, and that will provide the best 3D experience. I'm not saying that 3D is the future or anything, but if you're spending anywhere near $1500 or more, my suggestion would be to either wait for the true 240hz input displays, or buy a much cheaper tv to hold you off until then. There has been scuttlebutt that the PS4 and Xbox 3 could possibly go with 3D as a major part of the focus, and you don't want to be left out if that does happen. Again, I'm not saying that 3D is going to be the way things go, but if you're going to spend big $$$ anyways, then might as well cover your bases.

[Ed Oscuro]

I'm trying to fix up a great later CRT monitor (by accessing the service mode) for use with computers and arcade boards (RGB to VGA via XRGB-2) and stuff.

$18 for a classic 19" Trinitron with great colors (when calibrated correctly) + $24 or so for a cable so I can use some Sony software to calibrate it...that doesn't seem like a bad deal to me.

I may also eventually get a smaller RGB monitor. Good ones aren't actually too expensive - they are heavy and take up space though. You also either need native RGB applications like some older Japanese computers, and arcade boards, or modded consoles for it to be worthwhile. I'm not as much into RGB as some folks, but I just like to be able to play my games now and then, and a fullsize arcade cab doesn't seem likely, at least for a while.

[WCP]

You also either need native RGB applications like some older Japanese computers, and arcade boards, or modded consoles for it to be worthwhile. I'm not as much into RGB as some folks, but I just like to be able to play my games now and then, and a fullsize arcade cab doesn't seem likely, at least for a while.

You don't need to mod too many consoles for RGB. Most of them are compatible with RGB output, it's just a matter of actually getting the rgb signal out of the console with a specialized RGB cable. The only console I know of that absolutely has to be modded internally for RGB is the N64. The TG-16 can actually have an external RGB cable, but you would have to have amps and stuff externally in the cable, and most people would rather do it inside the console, but TG-16's don't absolutely have to be modded internally for RGB. I knew this one dude that modded his TurboBooster attachment so that it would have a RGB out on it. That way, he could use it with whatever TG-16 unit he hooked it up to.

[duffmanth]

I'm not sure where to post this - here seemed logical. I'm having a very tough time finding a good answer on which TV to buy.

I would like to purchase a 46" LCD TV. I had a Samsung and the unit's game lag was quite annoying, even in Game Mode. I'm looking for 240 hz (120 would be fine I guess) but the most important part is that I'm trying to get a TV that has 4 mili-seconds (or less) of lag.

I found that on my super awesome Samsung unit - that when playing Super Mario Bros. 3 via the Wii Virtual Console, that the amount of time between pressing the jump button and seeing Mario actually jump was long laggy enough to really mess up the gaming experience.

Everyone tells me that CRT TVs are really the best way to go for gaming - but I really don't want a CRT unit. I will also have a PC plugged into this TV, and I hear that screen burn is pretty bad for Plasma TVs so I'm ruling out Plasma.

Can you guys please give me your advise on the best LCD TV to purchase? There's really no definitive source online for a clear answer.

I watch a lot of movies too, but video games are really the priority for this TV.

Thanks very much!!

I would go with Sony, Sharp, or Samsung. I don't know how old your previous Samsung was, but any recent Samsungs made in the last few years are among the best LCD's out there. CRT models are best for PS2, Xbox, Gamecube and anything older. The PS3 and 360 are ideally suited for HDTV's.