NES games on ebay - very nice condition

[orrimarrko]

Finally got around to listing my Nintendo stuff on eBay...

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=no_anchovies&sort=3&rows=25&since=-1&rd=1

Anyway, please let me know if anyone is interested, as I would rather deal offline. Post here, or PM me...

Thanks for reading,
Steve

[leonk]

Steve...

you have nice auctions, but you gotta be careful with what you wrote in your payment instructions because it goes against ebay rules to charge them your paypal fees..

posting that well get all those auctions pulled.

[dave2236]

You charge a fee for paypal payments??? ...come on. its 3%

[foggrat]

Paypal fees make baby jesus cry. LOL LOL

C'mon man, suck it up. Taking paypal = more potential bidders = higher sale price = makes up for the fee. :D

[orrimarrko]

Tell you all what - since it's "Pick on Orrimarrko" day.

If you win any of those auctions, tell me that you are from the DP board and I won't charge the fee.

That aside, I didn't post here so you all could start a thread about charging paypal fees.

If you're interested in any of the games, let me know. Otherwise, no offense, but if I want your advice on selling through eBay, I'll ask for it.

"Volume makes up for it"? Are you kidding me? I'm not selling the games because I have nothing better to do - I want to recoup the cost associated with them. I already lose some value by listing it on eBay. I then lose some more if it ends with a successful bidder. So, what, I should loose even more because you want to pay via paypal? People are always able to spend the $.75 and send a money order. I have NO problem with that.

Sorry, but I'm not a full time dealer - volume doesn't even enter into the equation here.

[foggrat]

I'm not 100% sure you were replying to me when talking about volume, but I'll assume that you were, since I'm the only one who said something vaguely close.

I think that you missed the point of what I was trying to say. Let's say you start your auction from Dragon Warrior at $5. Some other guy bids $8, but because of the proxy bid system his bid is $5. Now, it's towards the end of the auction, and I come along. I read your auction description. Now, I happen to 99% only bid on auctions that accept Paypal. The only exception is an ultra rare item, unlike your dragon warrior cart. So, potential situations:

1. You take Paypal, without charging some BS fee. I like your item, and I bid $10.00. My proxy takes it to $8.50, to beat out bidder X. You suck up the $0.26 cents, for a net take (before ebay fees) of $8.24.

2. You don't take Paypal, or charge some silly fee. I like your item, but I don't bid. The auction ends with bidder X winning for $5. Your end take, before ebay fees, is $5. $3.24 less than you would have made after the exorbiant Paypal fees.

Clearly, not every item garners the attention of such a bidder (bids Paypal only), and clearly you're free to run your auctions however you want. (Although the other dude was right that ebay'll pull them for it, in a random halfa$$ed fashion). I just wanted to make sure that after I stuck my foot in my mouth and handed out unsolicited advice, you understood the reasoning behind it. :D

[Achika]

OMG people, it's not that big of deal. Sure, the US eBay is set up so you aren't supposed to charge fees, but let's not go into a lesson about it? On either parties behalf, 26 cents on a 8$ item isn't that big of deal. Let's be happy that Orri is not one of those sellers that charges hidden $8 handling fees. :)

[orrimarrko]

I'm not 100% sure you were replying to me when talking about volume, but I'll assume that you were, since I'm the only one who said something vaguely close.

I think that you missed the point of what I was trying to say. Let's say you start your auction from Dragon Warrior at $5. Some other guy bids $8, but because of the proxy bid system his bid is $5. Now, it's towards the end of the auction, and I come along. I read your auction description. Now, I happen to 99% only bid on auctions that accept Paypal. The only exception is an ultra rare item, unlike your dragon warrior cart. So, potential situations:

1. You take Paypal, without charging some BS fee. I like your item, and I bid $10.00. My proxy takes it to $8.50, to beat out bidder X. You suck up the $0.26 cents, for a net take (before ebay fees) of $8.24.

2. You don't take Paypal, or charge some silly fee. I like your item, but I don't bid. The auction ends with bidder X winning for $5. Your end take, before ebay fees, is $5. $3.24 less than you would have made after the exorbiant Paypal fees.

Clearly, not every item garners the attention of such a bidder (bids Paypal only), and clearly you're free to run your auctions however you want. (Although the other dude was right that ebay'll pull them for it, in a random halfa$$ed fashion). I just wanted to make sure that after I stuck my foot in my mouth and handed out unsolicited advice, you understood the reasoning behind it. :D

:D

Not only do I understand your examples, but I already considered them long ago.

My auctions are for items that have a fairly low value, so to use your own example to illustrate my rationale (since I am a bidder 90% of the time.)

1. If you aren't willing to pay an additional $.26 for an item that you are bidding on - you really didn't want the item anyway. Are you honestly saying that that additional $.26 would have changed your bidding structure?

Fact is, when most people bid, they already know the max amount they would pay for that item. Let's use your example. If you wanted to pay no more than $8.00 (including shipping) for that Dragon Warrior, then your max bid would be $4.15 ($8.00 less the shipping cost of $3.85.) You already would have lost because the auction was at $5.00. If, for example, your max that you would pay was $10 (including shipping) then your max bid would have been $6.15 ($10 less the $3.85 shipping cost.) So, perhaps you outbid that guy who had a $5.25 max bid, and now you win the bid at $5.50.

The $5.50, plus $3.85 shipping totals $9.35. Add the 3% paypal fee, and guess what - your total is now $9.63, which is still less than the price ceiling of $10 that you placed on yourself for that item.

2. And this happens ALL of the time. I get payments that do not include the 3% paypal fee. So, am I really going to banter back and forth over $.26 (or whatever)? NO way. I take the payment, pack the item and ship it out.

No harm, no foul. If the 3% gets paid, great - better for me. If not, I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep.

However, 3% on a $400 item is a decent amount. In that case, I would tell people that they needed to pay it, or send a money order.

Oh, and finally. Let's say I start a game auction at $1.99, because it's common, and I know that it won't sell for more than that. Someone wins it for $1.99.

It cost $.30 to list it, plus an additional $.10 in ebay fees. Now, my $1.99 sale only gets me $1.59. Take out some more for paypal, and it wasn't worth the 15-20 minutes it took me to list it in the first place.

I understand what you are saying - I do. But, as i said before - either you (as a bidder) want the item or you don't. If you even paid it at all - $.25 isn't enough to keep me (or most) from bidding.

[orrimarrko]

OMG people, it's not that big of deal. Sure, the US eBay is set up so you aren't supposed to charge fees, but let's not go into a lesson about it? On either parties behalf, 26 cents on a 8$ item isn't that big of deal. Let's be happy that Orri is not one of those sellers that charges hidden $8 handling fees. :)

Thanks Achika! In fact, I often end up eating shipping costs, because I underestimate. :)

[foggrat]

I agree with you that perhaps my example was poorly worded, I was just throwing some numbers out, and didn't even think of the shipping. My bottom line point (and I promise that this is my final post on the matter, and I'll stop picking on you. :-D )

1. Taking paypal = more bidders = higher ending price. The only exception would be some item that cost $1.99 and only got one bid, maybe. Which brings me to:
2. I wouldn't never post an item I thought would sell for $1.99. Not worth the time/effort/listing fees. If I had enough of em, I'd lot them up, and if I didn't I'd throw it in a drawer. The only people who can profit/break even off such auctions are those who profiteer of S/H, and you don't strike me as that kind of guy.
3. When I see a guy charging a $0.26 fee, I can't help but feel like he's trying to make sure he gets every last penny coming to him, and that if $0.26 cents is so important to him, I don't care to bid on his auction. Simply because the standard is for the seller to pay that cost, and when I sell, I just swallow it, and don't worry about every last penny. To turn the tables a bit, if it were customary for the buyer to pay the fees, and as a seller, I had a bidder balk, I'd think "What a cheap b*****". Since it's usual for the seller to pay, when the seller balks, I think "If $0.26 cents is so important to him, that he needs rock the standard "Seller Pays Fees" boat, he's probably gonna skimp on packaging materials, or make a big fuss about something else that shouldn't even need to be an issue." Please don't take this to be a personal attack on you, I'm sure your packaging is fine, but I can't help generic thoughts of that nature from arising.

Finally, let me appologize for threadjacking this into a discussion about Paypal Fees, and promise to fade into the background on the issue. I think your offer to not charge the fee for DP users is a cool gesture, and it seems like you have nice stuff. I wouldn't have noticed your fee if I hadn't been drooling over your merchandise. :D (especially Vegas Dreams, but I promised my wife no more buying games till the end of the month.) :embarrassed:

[orrimarrko]

Hey man - no worries. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I can assure you, and you can check with anyone who's done business with me here on these boards, that my stuff is in prime condition, and I pack like I want my stuff to be packed.

My auction items come from purchases of loose carts - and as most here know, I ONLY collect those in near mint/mint condition.

Since I have since acquired a complete/boxed copy, I now have a double of the cart. Since I don't need two...hence the auctions.

Anyway, if anyone has questions about the games - let me know.

Thanks,
Steve

[orrimarrko]

Funny, I have been selling things on eBay for a long time now. I have always put the paypal fees part in my shipping information section in the auction description.

I have NEVER had an auction cancelled until today. 2 in fact.

Coincidence that this subject appears here in this forum?

Maybe. All I can say is that if some gutless terd decided to notify eBay about that, then I would love for them to pm me. No need for the forum to know what a little coward punk bastard you are...no-no - pm me personally. >:(

Then again, maybe it was just a coincidence. O_O

By the way, just so eveyone knows, I have taken the time to REVISE EVERY ONE of my auctions to remove the paypal fees reference.

Bid on...

[orrimarrko]

Bump, as this is the last day for the auctions.

Thanks,
Steve

[Funk Buddy]

Ok, now that I have bid on one of your auctions, I'd like to add something to this fee topic. I sell games like you do on eBay and most of mine are not too expensive. I love PayPal and use it all the time but the fees do suck for the average sellers. I sell cables and games and have taken losses a lot, but that's the way it goes. I under estimate shipping on a lot of items too, but if I do over charge I tend to offer a refund for that amount. Now to the fees, what you could do is offer a discount for non PayPal payments. This is allowed by eBay, so you just add that 3% to the shipping amount.

I hate the people who charge $8 for shipping one game and it comes first class or even worse... media mail! >:( Those sellers should rot in Missouri... uh, I mean hell. I just sold Steel Battalion for X Box and offered a $10 discount on shipping for non PP payment, but they still paid that way. That cost me $10 just in PP fees... well I should not complain I still made $80 after the $21 in total fees. :D

If you want to cancel my bid to make a deal outside of eBay just let me know, I bid on the NFL Blitz game.

[jonjandran]

I know this topic is more or less dead but I wanted to throw in my 1 cent.
I could care less what fees a seller charges. I'm looking at one thing and one thing only . THE BOTTOM LINE. How much am I willing to spend. If that amount is $10.00 then I bid what I have to to get the item for $10.00 including charges.
Why the #$%@ should it matter what fees a person charges. Heck McDonalds charges a $.69 charge to use a debit card at their restaraunts.
Just bid what you want and take into account the fees. If you get what you want at the price you want then WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D
Sell on Orrimarrko!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[orrimarrko]

I know this topic is more or less dead but I wanted to throw in my 1 cent.
I could care less what fees a seller charges. I'm looking at one thing and one thing only . THE BOTTOM LINE. How much am I willing to spend. If that amount is $10.00 then I bid what I have to to get the item for $10.00 including charges.
Why the #$%@ should it matter what fees a person charges. Heck McDonalds charges a $.69 charge to use a debit card at their restaraunts.
Just bid what you want and take into account the fees. If you get what you want at the price you want then WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D
Sell on Orrimarrko!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My point exactly sir - I said the same above. Every buyer has a ceiling for each game they're interested in buying. Stick with your ceiling, and the rest is just details.

Regardless, I have taken out the paypal fees part from ALL my auctions, just to make those disgruntled folks happy.

I will say this though - I don't notice them bidding on anything, so their opinions shouldn't really matter too much, now should they... :D

[orrimarrko]

bump!