Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing [Archive]

Zap!

01-07-2010, 07:08 PM

This is coming out for the PS3 and 360 on February 10, and for the Wii in March. It is a "Kart" type racing game, and seems to look like Sega's answer to Mario Kart. Not sure which version I will get. If the Wii version using the wheel that came with Mario Kart Wii, I'll get that one. Here's the confirmed character list:

From the Sonic the Hedgehog series

* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Miles "Tails" Prower
* Knuckles the Echidna
* Doctor Eggman
* Amy Rose
* Shadow the Hedgehog
* Big the Cat

From other Sega properties

* AiAi from Super Monkey Ball
* Amigo from Samba de Amigo
* Ryo Hazuki from Shenmue
* Beat from Jet Set Radio
* Alex Kidd from the Alex Kidd series
* Billy Hatcher from Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
* Zobio and Zobiko, the zombie couple from The House of the Dead EX

From non-Sega properties

* Banjo and Kazooie from Banjo-Kazooie(Xbox 360)
* Xbox 360 Avatars(Xbox 360)
* Miis (Wii)

http://hadouken.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/sonic___sega_all-stars_racing-ps3screenshots18485sasasr_41.jpg

Baloo

01-07-2010, 07:45 PM

I want to see NiGHTS confirmed.

adam_devry

01-07-2010, 07:59 PM

does sonic just run cause I belive he is faster than a car

j_factor

01-07-2010, 07:59 PM

The selection of characters isn't so hot. Whoever at Sega insisted on the inclusion of Big the Cat, fuck you.

Sonicwolf

01-07-2010, 08:00 PM

Is it just more or does Sega append Sonic's name to every multi-character and game effort now?

Baloo

01-07-2010, 08:14 PM

The selection of characters isn't so hot. Whoever at Sega insisted on the inclusion of Big the Cat, fuck you.

Big is better than Rouge, Silver, and Cream though.

Although I would have liked to have seen Vector or Mighty.

Sonicwolf

01-07-2010, 08:17 PM

Big is better than Rouge, Silver, and Cream though.

Although I would have liked to have seen Vector or Mighty.

Yes. There are plenty of other Sega characters that are a hell of a lot better than Big the Cat.

Zap!

01-07-2010, 08:41 PM

Too bad Opa-Opa didn't make it. He never does anymore. :(

Sonicwolf

01-07-2010, 08:43 PM

Too bad Opa-Opa didn't make it. He never does anymore. :(

What the hell is Opa Opa anyways? It looks like someone took ED-209 from Robocop, tore off the legs and arms, attached mini legs, wings and lego colored it... LOL

j_factor

01-07-2010, 09:18 PM

Big is better than Rouge, Silver, and Cream though.

Although I would have liked to have seen Vector or Mighty.

Eh. My opinion is that it should either be Sonic R 2, and have a bunch of Sonic characters, or it should be Sega All-Stars, and feature a wide variety of Sega characters.

Although really, either way I'm sure the gameplay will be tepid.

Baloo

01-07-2010, 09:55 PM

I would actually love to see Sonic R 2. Sonic R had some of the most vast and detailed levels in a racing game evver. Too bad there were only five levels in the game.

This game will probably be shit unfortunately.

retroman

01-07-2010, 10:27 PM

i will pass.

Streetball 21

01-07-2010, 10:34 PM

I'll get it if they include Shenmue 3 as an unlockable...

Robocop2

01-07-2010, 11:27 PM

The need ToeJam and Earl.

SegaAges

01-08-2010, 12:00 AM

I will end up getting it on the fact that Sumo is working on it. I really enjoyed the Outrun games they made, so based on that, I do have high hopes for this regardless of whatever characters get shoved into it

Zap!

01-08-2010, 12:44 AM

What the hell is Opa Opa anyways? It looks like someone took ED-209 from Robocop, tore off the legs and arms, attached mini legs, wings and lego colored it... LOL

Lol, I think of him just as a living spaceship. Cool series of games though.

kedawa

01-08-2010, 01:01 AM

If it doesn't have Jo Musashi on horseback and Gillius Thunderhead on a beast of some sort, then they have missed the mark completely.

Kitsune Sniper

01-08-2010, 01:16 AM

I guess additional characters as DLC in the future isn't out of the question?

Famidrive-16

01-08-2010, 01:31 AM

The need ToeJam and Earl.

Supposedly (key word here) they actually asked the original creator if they could be in this and he said no.

I'll probably get this game anyways, I mean damn it has Ryo!

Zap!

01-08-2010, 01:32 AM

If it doesn't have Jo Musashi on horseback and Gillius Thunderhead on a beast of some sort, then they have missed the mark completely.

Yeah, no Space Harrier either.

buzz_n64

01-08-2010, 01:45 AM

Sega! NO BIG THE CAT!!! How about Metal Sonic or Super Sonic? Bring out some Streets of Rage guys, Shinobi, Altered Beast guy, a zombie from House of the Dead...

Gameguy

01-08-2010, 01:51 AM

So it's an updated version of the Sonic Drift games? It would have been nice if Sketch Turner from Comix Zone was included, he'd probably be the most normal character in the game.

Edit:

a zombie from House of the Dead...
There are a couple of zombies included in the game.

Snapple

01-08-2010, 03:09 AM

Oh boy another attempt at a Sonic racing game.

Sonic Drift, Sonic R, Sonic Riders, THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE!

Zap!

01-08-2010, 03:38 AM

Oh boy another attempt at a Sonic racing game.

Sonic Drift, Sonic R, Sonic Riders, THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE!

The difference is this is more of a Sega characters racing game. It doesn't just feature characters from the Sonic series of games

Snapple

01-08-2010, 04:05 AM

Sonicwolf

01-08-2010, 04:14 AM

The only reason they are adding the non-Sonic characters is so they can reach a broader audience. This is probably going to be a sad flaunting of some of the characters they toyed with before the end of the golden era in Segas existance.

Zap!

01-08-2010, 04:45 AM

Which will make the gameplay entirely different, I'm sure. The characters after Sonic are minutia. It's a kart-style racing game made by Sega where half of the characters are from Sonic games. It's not going to be different.

I agree too many are from Sonic games, but adding Alex Kidd, Ryo Hazuki, and the character from Super Monkey Ball are nice editions. However, many are left out, like Opa-Opa, Space Harrier, Zillion and Phantasy Star characters, or even Wonder Boy. Even still, it's a step in the right direction.

kedawa

01-08-2010, 03:11 PM

No Jacky Bryant, either, and he's a RACECAR DRIVER ffs.

j_factor

01-08-2010, 07:57 PM

Which will make the gameplay entirely different, I'm sure.

I'm not saying this game will be great, but it is worth noting that Sonic Drift, Sonic R, and Sonic Riders all played very differently from each other.

old_skoolin_jim

01-09-2010, 01:19 AM

I agree too many are from Sonic games, but adding Alex Kidd, Ryo Hazuki, and the character from Super Monkey Ball are nice editions. However, many are left out, like Opa-Opa, Space Harrier, Zillion and Phantasy Star characters, or even Wonder Boy. Even still, it's a step in the right direction.

Too bad the average gamer has no idea what the Master System was, hence they will not care about Sega's 80's characters.

I'm not saying this game will be great, but it is worth noting that Sonic Drift, Sonic R, and Sonic Riders all played very differently from each other.

That's true. They were 8, 32, and 128-bit, respectively.

I'll get it if they include Shenmue 3 as an unlockable...

I'd buy TEN!

I would actually love to see Sonic R 2. Sonic R had some of the most vast and detailed levels in a racing game evver. Too bad there were only five levels in the game.

This game will probably be shit unfortunately.

Don't forget the MUSIC!
"Can you seeeeeee, the sun is shining on meeeeeee, it makes me feel so freeeeeee, so aliiiiive, it makes me want to surviiiiiiiiive..."

I probably won't touch it, but it still piques my interest by inclusion of Ryo Hazuki- no doubt he'll be on his motorcycle. Could Lan Di driving the infamous black car be an unlockable?
Also, I second the notion that Sumo makes the awesomely fun OutRun2 and should be given a chance with this.
But still... ya gotta wonder.

Sonicwolf

01-09-2010, 01:27 AM

Too bad the average gamer has no idea what the Master System was, hence they will not care about Sega's 80's characters.

Considering that the Master System gave Nintendo a run for their money in Europe in the 1980s, I doubt that statement can be considered universally correct. Also considering the proliferation of emulation and retro games, worldwide knowledge of the Sega Master System is considerably higher now.

j_factor

01-09-2010, 02:15 AM

Considering that the Master System gave Nintendo a run for their money in Europe in the 1980s, I doubt that statement can be considered universally correct. Also considering the proliferation of emulation and retro games, worldwide knowledge of the Sega Master System is considerably higher now.

Yeah. It's worth pointing out that Sumo Digital (who's making this game) is located in the UK. Plus, these games tend to do better in Europe (see: Sega Superstars Tennis). Since Sega had the greatest popularity in Europe "back in the day", any new "Sega nostalgia" game is going to be produced with an eye on the European market, as it offers their best chance of success for the new game. This game is most likely being developed in Europe with the European market in mind, and the US release is secondary (and it may not even get released in Japan).

Garry Silljo

01-09-2010, 11:38 AM

I probably won't touch it, but it still piques my interest by inclusion of Ryo Hazuki- no doubt he'll be on his motorcycle.

He didn't have a motorcycle. He borrowed one from a buddy though.

SegaAges

01-09-2010, 01:33 PM

Yeah. It's worth pointing out that Sumo Digital (who's making this game) is located in the UK. Plus, these games tend to do better in Europe (see: Sega Superstars Tennis). Since Sega had the greatest popularity in Europe "back in the day", any new "Sega nostalgia" game is going to be produced with an eye on the European market, as it offers their best chance of success for the new game. This game is most likely being developed in Europe with the European market in mind, and the US release is secondary (and it may not even get released in Japan).

Yeah.

I posted earlier that the game was being done by Sumo.

I agree that with Sumo doing it, it should be an awesome racer.

Seriously kids, you have not even played the game and are already hating on it. Hahahaha. I heard Metal Gear Solid 5 was going to suck. I have not played it or even seen a screenshot, but it is going to suck. Yeah, I know that sounds bad, now imagine somebody who sees this game for the game it is (talking about Sega All-Stars) having to hear the same thing about Sega All-Stars. Don't just up and write it off if you have not played it.

Play the game before you throw up your anti-Sega brick wall to hate on it.

The newer Outrun games are very fun and awesome. Sumo is the brains behind the newer OutRun games, so them working on a Sega All-Stars racing game I will have high hopes for it. Sumo has already shown that they can make a very good and very fun racing game

Leo_A

01-09-2010, 02:48 PM

All Sumo did was port Outrun 2 and it's expanded sequel, so I wouldn't call them the brains behind them. Sega-AM2 are the group responsible for both games.

Also, F1 2009 and Dirt 2 for the Wii/PSP were both developed by Sumo Digital for Codemasters and haven't been recieved very well.

Still, the job they did in porting recent Outrun titles and remaking GTI Club+ leaves me optimistic this will be a fun arcade racer.

SegaAges

01-09-2010, 08:17 PM

kedawa

01-09-2010, 08:53 PM

Have you played Perfect Dark Zero?

Julio III

01-11-2010, 06:09 PM

I was getting this the moment they brought out the Ryo Hazuki video. That was so awesome - him on the motorcycle and, of course, the forklift truck!

And then later I hear this is being made by Sumo Digital! Awesome. I loved their ports of OutRun. I have OutRun 2 on the Xbox, 2006 on the PS2 and Online Arcade on the 360 and they all provide good experiences. I also like their port of GTI Club on the PS3. So they know how to make a racer so should be good fun. Here's hoping for some crazy drifting.

Famidrive-16

01-13-2010, 09:26 PM

Some of the hidden characters got leaked, mass spoilers ahead of course:

http://www.tssznews.com/2010/01/13/inside-the-all-stars-racing-site/

Zap!

01-13-2010, 09:57 PM

Some of the hidden characters got leaked, mass spoilers ahead of course:

http://www.tssznews.com/2010/01/13/inside-the-all-stars-racing-site/

Oh my God, now I am getting this one Day One for sure! Owed to the Past:

Spoiler.......
.............
...........

Opa-Opa! Now, my day is made! Original mascots in tact!

Cryomancer

01-14-2010, 01:51 AM

Supposedly (key word here) they actually asked the original creator if they could be in this and he said no.

I'll probably get this game anyways, I mean damn it has Ryo!

Most likely it is the same situation that has been happening with TJ&E lately. Sega THINKS they own them, start doing something with them, and the original creator guys go "uh hey Sega, remember that talk we had about you not actually owning them? And how we'd maybe like to get paid a little bit?" and then Sega realized they'd have to involve money in it and back out.

I don't think they are opposed to it, I think Sega just refuses to actually give them any compensation. That big "genesis poll" website awhile back shows the situation quite well. Earthworm Jim was doing well in the voting, then Sega realized they don't own it and had to take it off. Toejam & Earl then won. And of course there has been no word about it since because of this situation.

Dear Sega: just because it came out on the genesis does not mean you own the IP. Toejam & Earl was conceptualized and mostly developed by TWO GUYS. Sega corporate basically forced them to make the sequel into a platformer instead of the more unique format of the original. They have a history of messing with those guys, it's pretty lame. They should really just start actually paying them some money because yes I DO want TJ&E in this kind of game, and I also want future TJ&E games as well. One of the guys posted concept art for a DS version of the game with like 4 players, of course so far no one is interested. Good job, Sega.

(probably somewhat inaccurate/misinformed but that's how I feel about things right now rant over)

Re: the game itself, lol sonic in a car again, but Ryo on a forklift, and the fact that Opa Opa and the Bonanza Bros are in is pretty cool. Opa Opa should have Harrier riding on him or something.

Zap!

01-14-2010, 02:20 AM

Please let Space Harrier, Shinobi (Joe Musashi), and Wonder Boy on a skateboard be in it. Please Sega.

Famidrive-16

01-14-2010, 06:39 PM

etc

Yeah, that Sega poll was pretty lol cause I knew they didn't have the rights to EWJ.

and Wonder Boy on a skateboard be in it

What? Why would Master Higgins be in this?

old_skoolin_jim

01-14-2010, 09:40 PM

OK, finally just watched the trailer video. Looks like I'm gonna have to at least give it a rental. Looks like some crazy OutRun 2/SF Rush/Mario Kart hybrid (with RYO HAZUKI, of course).
I'm in.

Zap!

01-15-2010, 03:07 AM

What? Why would Master Higgins be in this?

The two are essentially the same, but different. Wonder Boy was a bit of a Sega mascot in his own right as well. I have him and Alex Kidd (and some other old Sega stars) standing next to each other. Think it was in Sega Challenge.

Cryomancer

01-15-2010, 03:47 AM

Maybe we should start a movement showing pictures of people buying the game at full price, with the receipt visable, and send them all to sega with "now take this money and finish Shenmue"

Zap!

01-20-2010, 10:56 PM

It's official, the Wii version will include a Wii-Wheel Bundle.

http://www.wiichat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Sega-All-Stars-Racing-Bundle.jpg

The 1 2 P

01-21-2010, 08:38 PM

From non-Sega properties

* Banjo and Kazooie from Banjo-Kazooie(Xbox 360)
* Xbox 360 Avatars(Xbox 360)
* Miis (Wii)

Why won't they let PS3 owners use their Home avatars in the game? Thats descrimination. They should atleast let them use Sackboy as a PS3 exclusive character, if only because it's fun to say Sackboy.

Baloo

01-21-2010, 08:41 PM

It's official, the Wii version will include a Wii-Wheel Bundle.

http://www.wiichat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Sega-All-Stars-Racing-Bundle.jpg

That wheel looks fucking awful! Give me the Wii Wheel that comes with Mario Kart any day.

kedawa

01-21-2010, 09:31 PM

They're both equally stupid. Adding a useless chunk of plastic to the controller doesn't make Mario Kart control any better, and I doubt it'll be any different here.

Famidrive-16

01-22-2010, 05:12 PM

They're both equally stupid. Adding a useless chunk of plastic to the controller doesn't make Mario Kart control any better, and I doubt it'll be any different here.

but you get a special icon playing online!!!

Zap!

01-22-2010, 05:19 PM

They're both equally stupid. Adding a useless chunk of plastic to the controller doesn't make Mario Kart control any better, and I doubt it'll be any different here.

That's subject to opinion. Many agree with you, but I know a lot of people who never race in MK Wii without the wheel.

kedawa

01-22-2010, 05:39 PM

I know people who insist on using a racing wheel even though they admittedly do better with a pad in just about every game. It has more to do with being stuck in the land of make believe than it does with actually controlling the game better.

Zap!

01-22-2010, 05:47 PM

Baloo

01-22-2010, 05:51 PM

I actually like to use the wheel with Mario Kart Wii myself...

The 1 2 P

02-14-2010, 07:56 PM

I just played the demo for this on XBL and I enjoyed it. The power-ups are mostly familiar if you've ever played a kart racing game before but they threw in a few surprises. I definitely can't wait to see all the special moves the Avatars can do but unfortrunately they are not playable in the demo.

Although it was just a demo, there seemed to be very little room for error if you actually wanted to come in first. The computer controlled characters will race as if they are Nascar vets, rarely slowing down for anything. You also need to drift alot in order to keep up with the rest of the pack. I'm not going to pick this up on day one but eventually I'll get it. It will be another one of those games that's replay value goes thru the roof once you throw in XBL support.

Streetball 21

02-14-2010, 10:37 PM

I tried the demo also. I was kinda impressed with it. But like you mentioned, the AI did not take it easy lol. It's also nice to see something Shenmue related in the game, Ryo Hazuki as a character.

Mayhem

02-15-2010, 09:55 AM

The AI is set to Advanced in the demo, you can change it on the menu screen by pressing Y I think. Took me three goes on that setting to get first in the race...

Nesmaster

02-15-2010, 02:05 PM

This will make a nice addition to my 360 library. Assuming advanced is equal to 150cc on Mario Kart, I guess it'll just take some time getting used to the courses and shortcuts, as I came in 6th my first run.

Famidrive-16

02-15-2010, 04:06 PM

b0ub0u

02-15-2010, 04:43 PM

Let me assure you that playing a simulation game with a wheel IS better than with a controller. It simply is. I am talking about simulations games like Forza or whatever. Try to counter-steer with a controller to control your drift, let me know how it goes.

Same for Shmups, using an arcade stick is 10 time more precise than using a controller, it is so easy to evade bullets with a good stick.

Fighting games also can benefit greatly from an arcade stick. Pulling out combos is easier.

Dastardly Dylan

02-15-2010, 07:53 PM

This game is incredibly fun, I wish the demo had online multiplayer though because I would then be able to play with me and my buddies from far away, we all like the game. I will be buying this game for a few reasons:

1.) Banjo Kazooie
2.) SEGA MILES!!!

The 1 2 P

02-16-2010, 01:32 AM

The AI is set to Advanced in the demo, you can change it on the menu screen by pressing Y I think. Took me three goes on that setting to get first in the race...

That explains it. After four races I only managed to get up to second place. It reminded me of the Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi demo. It too was set to it's hardest setting and when you won you felt good about it:)

Zap!

02-16-2010, 06:48 PM

Which version do you guys think I should get, Wii or PS3? It's such a tough call for me. Do I choose graphics or control?

j_factor

02-16-2010, 09:37 PM

I would think it would control just as well on PS3. And yet the graphics probably won't be a huge difference.

Masters of Teras Kasi

Please do not use those words ever again.

Zap!

02-17-2010, 12:03 AM

I would think it would control just as well on PS3. And yet the graphics probably won't be a huge difference.

It come with the wheel on the Wii. Since I am one of those who actually like using the wheel on Mario Kart Wii, I am leaning toward the Wii version.

j_factor

02-17-2010, 01:38 AM

It come with the wheel on the Wii. Since I am one of those who actually like using the wheel on Mario Kart Wii, I am leaning toward the Wii version.

Isn't that just a circular piece of plastic that doesn't do anything? Meanwhile the PS3 has actual analog racing wheels available.

Zap!

02-17-2010, 01:55 AM

Isn't that just a circular piece of plastic that doesn't do anything? Meanwhile the PS3 has actual analog racing wheels available.

A lot agree with you, but a lot like myself prefer to use the wheel on Mari Kart Wii, claiming it makes a difference. I guess it's all personal taste.

rlemmon

02-21-2010, 07:28 PM

What do you guys think about sonic and sega allstar racing ? It looks cool but the $40.00 price point bothers me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5HfyvFFV4&feature=related

Zap!

02-22-2010, 04:03 AM

WHOA...The racing wheel for the Wii version will be Europe only! :(

http://kotaku.com/5453378/sonic--sega-all+stars-racing-gets-its-own-wii-wheel

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2760/4287095815_59a1bb3a62.jpg

j_factor

02-22-2010, 04:07 PM

WHOA...The racing wheel for the Wii version will be Europe only! :(

We've already gotten racing wheels with Mario Kart Wii, GT Pro Series, and a few others. They all do the same thing (i.e., nothing).

The 1 2 P

02-22-2010, 04:10 PM

What do you guys think about sonic and sega allstar racing ? It looks cool but the $40.00 price point bothers me.

So you'd rather it be $50 and pay more?

We've already gotten racing wheels with Mario Kart Wii, GT Pro Series, and a few others. They all do the same thing (i.e., nothing).

You obviously don't have a desk, otherwise you'd appreciate the need for a good paperweight as much as the rest of us do.