Ys Book I&II Review is up!

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First video review of the year. So, let's shine some light on one of the best forgotten RPGs to grace the 16-bit era.

Ys Book I & II Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urjMyAqLr10)

Enjoy!

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First video review of the year. So, let's shine some light on one of the best forgotten RPGs to grace the 16-bit era.

Ys Book I & II Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urjMyAqLr10)

Enjoy!

In my opinion, there is no better game in the history of video gaming, and I've had this view since it came out.

[Arkhan]

nice review :)

Ys I & II defined a genre!

[kupomogli]

Good video. Ys is a great series. Is your Ys3 video going to be just Wanderers from Ys or is it also going to be Oath in Felghana as well? Are you going to make any mention of Oath in Felghana in the video or you just going to leave it until you later review it?

[Pezcore343]

Not a bad video. For those looking to try out the Ys series, would you guys recommend any particular version? Since I don't have a turbo CD attachment I was thinking of getting I&II on SMS. Opinions?

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Not a bad video. For those looking to try out the Ys series, would you guys recommend any particular version? Since I don't have a turbo CD attachment I was thinking of getting I&II on SMS. Opinions?

Only Ys Book I is on the SMS. One the TG-CD version, both Book I and II are on the same disk.

Although the Turbo version is by far the best, the SMS game is also very good and a lot of fun.

[kupomogli]

Although the Turbo version is by far the best, the SMS game is also very good and a lot of fun.

What about Ys 1 and 2 Complete and Ys 1 and 2 Eternal(same game?) The PC Engine version is considered the best because people are judging it based on the consoles it was on at the time, but I'd probably consider the remakes the best.

I've only played the PC Engine version of Ys 1 and 2, but from how amazing 1 and 2 Complete, Eternal, and Chronicle looks. Yeah. I want Ys 1 and 2 Chronicle :(.

Also. Pezcore343, most people will try out a Ys game and hate it because of the ability where you can't swing your weapon. I'd suggest trying out Ys6 Ark of Napishtim or Ys3 Oath in Felghana first to possibly become a fan of the series first. This way even if you don't like the style of the original games starting off, you'll atleast give them a chance and most likely enjoy them. I just know that most people would probably give a game a chance if it was from a series they enjoyed rather than something they've never played before.

If you also decide to emulate, get the PC Engine version. If you decide to emulate the SMS version, there is a hack on romhacking.net to actually use the Japanese FM sound chip music in the English version of the game. Much better quality.

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Not a bad video. For those looking to try out the Ys series, would you guys recommend any particular version? Since I don't have a turbo CD attachment I was thinking of getting I&II on SMS. Opinions?

The Sega Master System only had the first. Book I&II TurboCD version I consider to be the best game so far and if you got a Wii and 8 bucks, it's yours on Virtual Console. They did release a remake on DS earlier last year. Ok but not as good as Turbo.

Their 6th installment (Ark of Napishthm) did reach our shores for PS2 and PSP and a good game for those seeking a bit of retro goodness in the modern gaming age.

As for Wanderers From Ys (number 3), well you'll find out soon enough. ;)

[kupomogli]

As for Wanderers From Ys (number 3), well you'll find out soon enough. ;)

What Press Start probably wants to say. "This game came out for the US, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you're a die hard fan of the series because well, it's just not very good. Bad ass music though."

[Arkhan]

if you cant get the turbo one, dont get the DS one, its garbage.

Its a DS'd gimped port of the PC remake kupo was talking about.

so if anything get that. Theres english patches for both and they look and sound great

[kupomogli]

Theres english patches for both and they look and sound great

There's English patches for the PC Ys Complete? I assumed if any were released they'd be on Romhacking.net. That's cool though. If Ys Chronicle isn't ever released state side I'll probably just download Ys Complete and the patch to play the remake.

*edit*

I also own Ys6 on PS2. I've heard the PSP version load times are extremely long, but how long are they really. Is it really noticeable in comparison or is it just slightly more than it is on the PS2?

[tubeway]

If I purchased Ys 6 for PS2, would this hamper my enjoyment of earlier Ys titles if I went back and played them afterwards?

And is Ys I&II for the DS really that bad? I imagine it would see an improvement in graphics and load times....

And one last DS Ys question: did all releases come with the outer cardboard box and music CD?

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Dam, you guys reply fast. Do you guys have lightning coursing through your veins?


What Press Start probably wants to say. "This game came out for the US, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you're a die hard fan of the series because well, it's just not very good. Bad ass music though."

And what kupo wants to say is "I like forcing my opinions on others, despite whether they agree with me or not or misinterpreting what other people mean, cause, in my own little world, I'm always right and everyone else are dumb f*#ks. PS3 RULEZ!"

What Press_Start really wants to say is "The next video review will cover my thoughts about the game but don't mind sharing my two bits early. It's a good game giving off a side-scrolling RPG vibe that may attract SotN fans, but it's short and somewhat challenging. Oh and I agree with kupo, music kicks serious elephant behind."

[Arkhan]

There's English patches for the PC Ys Complete? I assumed if any were released they'd be on Romhacking.net. That's cool though. If Ys Chronicle isn't ever released state side I'll probably just download Ys Complete and the patch to play the remake.


Dude there have been english patches of the Ys I and II PC game for at least like 4 years. maybe even more.

Google!


And one last DS Ys question: did all releases come with the outer cardboard box and music CD?

Yeah!

Unfortunately the fountain of love (town music) isnt on the disc. That really pissed me off.

anger was had on the drive home from gamestop that day.

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If I purchased Ys 6 for PS2, would this hamper my enjoyment of earlier Ys titles if I went back and played them afterwards?

The only variable I see are the controls as everything else is done stupendously. Book I&II has a "ram" attack where strike enemies by running into them with the D-pad. III is more traditional as the d-pad for moving and attack and jump have separate buttons. The quicker you master the controls, the better the experience gets.



And is Ys I&II for the DS really that bad? I imagine it would see an improvement in graphics and load times....


Ditching the 2d route for a 3d look sorta tick off the nostalgia lovers and didn't showcase well overall. They return the ramming feature using the stylus plus added additional levels and footage from Eternal but the hit detection is a bit wonky and music doesn't reach high expectations. Like I said, ok but prefer the Turbo CD better.



And one last DS Ys question: did all releases come with the outer cardboard box and music CD?

So far only I&II are released in the US and yes, they have cardboard box and music CD. There was a strategy game for the DS as well in Japan and Europe yet never made to America.

[Arkhan]

The stylus used ramming system feels drunk.

Like having a laggy mouse while playing a PC game,

:(

This video makes me want to do a montage review of Hydlide 1 2 and 3 !

[Kitsune Sniper]

There's English patches for the PC Ys Complete? I assumed if any were released they'd be on Romhacking.net. That's cool though. If Ys Chronicle isn't ever released state side I'll probably just download Ys Complete and the patch to play the remake.

*edit*

I also own Ys6 on PS2. I've heard the PSP version load times are extremely long, but how long are they really. Is it really noticeable in comparison or is it just slightly more than it is on the PS2?

http://www.romhacking.net/trans/582/
http://www.romhacking.net/trans/1071/

Also, Ys III isn't for everyone. But the music kicks all sorts of booty. I should know. (http://www.foxhack.net/trans/ys-iii-wanderers-from-ys/)

Edited to add: And a friend of mine and I were working on translating Ys I+II on the DS, we had a fixed font, I was working on graphics... and then the damn game gets announced for America. And they didn't fix the freakin' apostrophe. Blargh.

[Arkhan]

http://www.romhacking.net/trans/582/
http://www.romhacking.net/trans/1071/

Also, Ys III isn't for everyone. But the music kicks all sorts of booty. I should know. (http://www.foxhack.net/trans/ys-iii-wanderers-from-ys/)

Edited to add: And a friend of mine and I were working on translating Ys I+II on the DS, we had a fixed font, I was working on graphics... and then the damn game gets announced for America. And they didn't fix the freakin' apostrophe. Blargh.

lol@romhacking translation links.

Ys III's soundtrack is so kick ass that it gets played in the car while driving to school.

loudly.

[kupomogli]

I feel dumb. Whenever I did a Ys search I didn't notice the page 2 on the bottom. Probably because it doesn't have Page 1 2 3 4 5..46, etc. No wonder I never found any translations other than Ys for the NES and MSX :P.

Might as well also download Ys4 Mask of the Sun then though too. Never played that one.

[blue lander]

I've played Ys I on the TG-16, Apple IIgs and SMS. I also have it for the X68000 and PC-88 although I can't really "play" those versions since they're in Japanese. In my opinion the Turbo CD is far and away the best version out there. The SMS and IIgs games are just rinky dink action RPGs, but the TG-16 version is an absolute classic. If you want to play Ys, I'd wait until you have the hardware to play it on the TG-16. It's not that the other versions are bad, it's that the TG-16 is that good.

I recently bought the DS version of Ys Book I & II, and it looks and plays like a cheap flash game. I only played for a couple hours but I'm trying to work up the will to give it another chance. Maybe it'll grow on me.

[Pezcore343]

Also. Pezcore343, most people will try out a Ys game and hate it because of the ability where you can't swing your weapon. I'd suggest trying out Ys6 Ark of Napishtim or Ys3 Oath in Felghana first to possibly become a fan of the series first. This way even if you don't like the style of the original games starting off, you'll atleast give them a chance and most likely enjoy them. I just know that most people would probably give a game a chance if it was from a series they enjoyed rather than something they've never played before.

Oh I've played other Rogue-likes before, so I'm not too worried about that. My question was more, would I be ok going with the SMS version for now until I pick up a Turbo CD somewhere down the line.

[Haoie]

Is Ark of Napishtim the only to get localised?

[kupomogli]

Is Ark of Napishtim the only to get localised?

No.

Ys 1 and 2 on TG16CD, Ys 1 on SMS, YS3 Wanderers from Ys on TG16CD, SNES, and Genesis, then Ys6 Ark of Napishtim on PS2 and PSP.

Then the fan translations of other games.

[kupomogli]

I decided to start up Ys and anything that is pre N64 I usually play on my PSP. The TG16 emulators work perfectly except for sound quality which maybe one song in the entire Ys Book 1 and 2 works.

So I decide to download the FM music patch and play Ys on a SMS emulator. I pick up the equipment, go outside of town and hold right towards an enemy lower than the enemy. Some reason I die. So I restart do it again. On the SMS you have to be as far to the side of them as you possibly can be to guarantee not to get hit, where anything higher you may or may not. So anyways going along, and the dog that's small, I hit it a few times taking off absolutely no damage, and get hit once and dead. Since I wasn't at the absolute side then I got hit.

So I'm like, okay, the difficulty is a little more that's fine. So I'm used to the SMS mechanics now and rarely get hit, but then I go, okay, should have a level up after a couple kills. Since it doesn't have the border that tells your EXP I open the menu and look. WTF? 200 EXP FOR A LEVEL?

I decided to just grind for the strongest sword you can get at the beginning of the game because you'll get that much sooner than you'll get the level up with 200 exp. The enemies are more sparse in the SMS version. Your life if you happen to take any damage takes quite a bit of time to refill in comparison.

What did they do to the game. Turned it into a grinder? The TG16CD one I think you have to only get 50 exp to level up the first level. Also you could kill the dogs at level 1 with the short sword. Also it wasn't so picky about being on the absolute edge of the enemies as long as you weren't hitting them head on.

[Kitsune Sniper]

All Ys games are grindfests. Unfair grindfests.

[kupomogli]

All Ys games are grindfests. Unfair grindfests.

Not super grinders like the first Dragon Warrior, Disgaea, etc. I've completed Ys on the TG16CD. The SMS takes it to a whole new level.

Anyone care to do an improvement romhack on the SMS version? Change the difficulty to that of the TG16CD version?

[Jorpho]

Dude there have been english patches of the Ys I and II PC game for at least like 4 years. maybe even more.

Google!Be sure to look for the patched version that has the music replaced with the tracks from the orchestral album.

[HappehLemons]

"This new ramming feature takes the whole stop and attack hasstle out of the game"

This kind of made me laugh. I'd problally enjoy the game more if this "hasstle" was in it.

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Why was the main hero named Aaron in the SMS version, but Adol in the TG one?

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"This new ramming feature takes the whole stop and attack hasstle out of the game"

This kind of made me laugh. I'd problally enjoy the game more if this "hasstle" was in it.

Can't hear this "hasstle" you speak of. "Problally" the speaker system is a bit foff but I wouldn't wormy about it. ;)


Why was the main hero named Aaron in the SMS version, but Adol in the TG one?

Different ports by different developers. Sega developed SMS version and Alfa System for TG. Funny I'm going to cover this similar topic for my Ys III review.

[eskobar]

In that days, i wanted to be ADOL CHRISTIN .... :rocker:

It was a magical game !!!!

I enjoyed very much Ys : The Vanished Omens for the SMS, but the experience was a whole new world when i played the TRUBOGRAFX CD.

I enjoyed the Nintendo DS remake and the anime too. I really miss those experiences in the current generation :hail:

[HappehLemons]

Can't hear this "hasstle" you speak of. "Problally" the speaker system is a bit foff but I wouldn't wormy about it. ;)



Different ports by different developers. Sega developed SMS version and Alfa System for TG. Funny I'm going to cover this similar topic for my Ys III review.

This is your review isn't it? At 4:05 you called stopping and attacking a hassle.

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This is your review isn't it? At 4:05 you called stopping and attacking a hassle.

Yes, hassle not "hasstle". ;)