Batman Arkham City

[kupomogli]

I was just scrolling through games on Amazon and then. Boom. Arkham Asylum 2 wtf? So I just Googled it and yeah. It was announced on 12/2009 they're making an Arkham Asylum 2.

Anyways. Seeing as I'm a fan of Batman and the first Arkham Asylum was one of my favorite games on PS360, I'm interested in seeing how this one goes. Arkham Asylum 2 probably isn't its official name, but yeah.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/12/12/batman-arkham-asylum-2-announced-at-the-vgas/

http://www.arkhamhasmoved.com/us/index.html

[otoko]

Already? Seems really soon, unless they planned to do this anyway... It gives me more reason to finish the first then.

[old_skoolin_jim]

Well, yeah... *minor spoiler*

...It's not like the ending didn't set it up for a sequel...

[portnoyd]

Day one

[exit]

With how well the game sold and how much critical praise it got, I wasn't surprised at all when they announced the sequel last month. What really gets me excited is that Two-Face is said to be in the game this time around, who for whatever reason was missing in the last game.

[mr obscure]

Part 2,hmm i got the feeling and this is just a feeling.
that DLC is upgraded to part 2. There was DLC planned and the game sold good so...

[LaughingMAN.S9]

if they ever considered making hush the main villain, i'd buy 10 copies and give it to the homeless :)


hush imo is the only villain with the potential to surpass the joker as the ultimate batman foe.

[Robocop2]

With how well the game sold and how much critical praise it got, I wasn't surprised at all when they announced the sequel last month. What really gets me excited is that Two-Face is said to be in the game this time around, who for whatever reason was missing in the last game.

I thought he was missing because he had escaped prior to events in the game. I know that *spoiler* At the end of the game, Batman gets a call that Two Face is robbing a bank in town and Batman flies off in the batwing from the asylum to confront him So I suppose it could work out that way not to mention all of the inmates who are missing from their cells and are not featured in the game. I know I'd really like more Scarecrow as he was probably one of my favorite characters in the first.

[DisastrophE]

Day one

Agreed. Being the giant Batman nerd I am, I'm totally geeked for this. I really hope it's more of a sandbox type game. I want to be able to drive the Batmobile and scale the buildings of Gotham City. But if not I'm sure I'll love it either way.

[kupomogli]

Someone found a secret room on Arkham Asylum detailing the next Batman. The room can't be found with detective mode. Anyways. There's new info that Quincy Sharp bought a portion of Gotham City and closed it off since Arkham Asylum and Blackgate are destroyed/under construction which is why the game is being called Arkham City. So that's probably why we see the psychiatric ward and penitentiary labeled. According to the developers we're not going to be seeing this game until next year.

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy28/Ross_847/DSCF0356.jpg

Here's a Youtube video showing the room.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNJ9gilJxjg

[deltoidsteep]

Hopefully there will be a better collector's edition for this

[kupomogli]

New Arkham City screens. Character models have much better formed faces now. Catwoman, Two Face, and the new and improved Harley Quinn are there among others.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/09/batman3.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/09/batman4.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/09/batman18.jpg

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/batman-arkham-city-9-01-10/#/0

[exit]

I was thrilled to see those Two Face shots on Kotaku, finally I get to fight against my favorite Batman villain.

[SegaAges]

I bought the special edition of arkham asylum way after it came out and greatly regret not buying it sooner.

I am really hoping for another special edition. Either way, I am pre-ordering this one for sure.

[Flashback2012]

New Arkham City screens. Character models have much better formed faces now. Catwoman, Two Face, and the new and improved Harley Quinn are there among others.

I do loves me some Batman and comics in general but the games made for comic book characters seems to always leave me flat. I think the last games based on super heroes that I liked were in the 16 and 32-bit eras. I did play the demo for the first game and it wasn't bad but I never did pick it up.

Not digging the name for this sequel. Arkham City sounds incredibly dumb. Why not just called it Gotham City? :confused: I know, I know...they wanted to establish a connection with the first game but are people really that aloof to not realize this is the sequel?



http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/09/batman3.jpg

I realize this is supposed to be Two-Face but the comic purist nerd in me has to point out that only the left side of his face is horribly scarred, not the entire left side of his body.


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/09/batman4.jpg

Not digging the Harley Quinn either. This looks like a pic out of Vampire: The Masquerade. Why not give her an all black full body skintight bodysuit and a jester's hat? I didn't much care for the liberties taken on some of the other villains that showed up in the first game like Bane either. Ah well. :|


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/09/batman18.jpg

This is a good shot. Batman pretty much looks like he's supposed to and so does Catwoman.

http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/batman-arkham-city-9-01-10/#/0[/QUOTE]

[DreadIsReal]

Bumping up cause this game comes out on Tuesday and I'm super excited. I'll be getting it at midnight and spend all day Tuesday playing it. Who else?

[kupomogli]

Kmart has two gaming credits with the purchase of Arkham City. $30 gaming credit and a $10 gaming credit towards Lord of the Rings War in the North.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Can't wait. Can't effing wait.

[exit]

I could get the game right now if I wanted to, since it's not locked out the system by street date at work (normally we wouldn't be able to sell a major release until 12:01 AM Tuesday) but I decided against it since I really can't afford to spend the money right now. One of my friends at work already picked it up after figuring it out, but I'll be getting it like everyone else on Tuesday with my credit at Best Buy.

[Ryaan1234]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/09/batman4.jpg
I have to agree with Flashback. That is not Harley Quinn. That is generic goth girl #472.

[Johnny_Rock]

I keep trying to get hyped for the game but I can't. I loved the first game but for whatever reason I just can't get in the mood for the new one.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/09/batman4.jpg

Yeah, don't like the Harley design, but was pretty much over it in the first game.

Though, I must admit, the tattoo on her waist is pretty fantastic.

[LaughingMAN.S9]

I keep trying to get hyped for the game but I can't. I loved the first game but for whatever reason I just can't get in the mood for the new one.


lol same, i know the game is going to be amazing and i already payed off my copy of this game on onlive months ago...but i still dont give a fuck lol


im buying it cuz i know im going to love it. probably more so than the first one, but i just cant get pumped up about it for whatever reason

[The 1 2 P]

Walmart.com has a deal where you get a free copy of Arkham Asylum bundled with Arkham City and a free $10 gift card. But as far as I can tell it's only for the 360 version.

EDIT: It's suppose to be for both systems according to the links on google.

[misfits859]

This game is getting crazy high review scores across the board. Damn, I hate buying games new but I may have to bite on this one...

[Kitsune Sniper]

I have to agree with Flashback. That is not Harley Quinn. That is generic goth girl #472.

And yet she looks more like Harley Quinn than her current comic book incarnation...

[exit]

I picked this up today at Best Buy, unfortunately for me they were out of the PS3 SE and only had it for the 360, oh well it saved me $50. Anyway, been really enjoying the game so far, it's a lot more open than Arkham Asylum and you're free to practically go anywhere you want. It's a blast just zipping all around the city with the grappling gun, as well as gliding around and then swooping down to take an unsuspecting enemy out.

In short: It's the open world Batman game everyone has been waiting for.

[heybtbm]

I wish I had time to play this. I'm still spending most of my free time with Gears 3 and Age of Empires Online. Not to mention "GOTY", Battlefield 3 comes out next week. Arkham City will have to wait. Looks great though.

[wfnjstallion]

I am not an early adopter, i think the last game I needed to have at launch was Goldeneye Wii (pure nostalgia buy) but Arkham City was a must buy at midnight. I even took off of work today to explore. After several hours I can see why the reviews are so positive. It looks amazing and there is just so much to do. This is the month of Arkham City in this house, sorry Max Payne 2 you have been shelved again.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Managed to get about 40 minutes of play time in last night (after downloading the friggin Catwoman content which took an hour based on the zillion people that were simultaneously downloading it).

Everything about the first 40 minutes seems pretty epic.

No time wasted putting you in contact with top-tier rogues like Two-Face, Penguin and ... CALENDAR MAN!!!! .... *cough*

Awesome awesome stuff.

The Riddler trophies seem to be just EVERYWHERE ... I have a feeling that once I'm done with the core story that I'm going to really enjoy taking the time to collect them all based on how beautiful the city is and how fluid the control mechanics are.

[JSoup]

I've been playing since yesterday afternoon. Honestly, I'm not really finding the game that interesting. Arkham Asylum drew me right from the get go and held my attention for the entire duration of the story. Arkham City just strikes me as Arkham Asylum: Wild World.

And goddamn do I hate Grey DeLisle's voice.

[kupomogli]

I'm at the second portion of the game where you control Catwoman and while it's a great game, I also find Arkham Asylum to be a much better game. Arkham Asylum was also open world, but it was much more contained making a more enjoyable experience.

I'm pretty pissed off about the single player pass that unlocks Catwoman content. The content not being on disc is pretty major in my opinion, especially given how much I've seen and I'm hardly even that far in the game.

[gepeto]

One deal I think is the best. Is Kmart. You have to sign up for there shop you way rewards at customer service before you begin your transaction. Once you get your card you go get the game and scan the card first at the register then scan the game when you buy it.


A $30.00 gaming coupon will print out. That can be used after the 23rd. Also a 10.00 gaming coupon for the new lord of the rings game will print.



So when battlefeild 3 or modernwarfare 3 you can use the coupon for 30.00 off. The 30.00 coupon can be used on any game at kmart. Over the past year Kmart has been offering gaming coupons on most all new releases. I am sure batt 3 and mw3 will have 20.00 coupons as well. Come ride the coupon train.



Every one knows kmart can be ghetto so you have to find one that got there stuff together. Get your gameplan together. You can clean up and get games oin the cheap riding kmarts coupon train.



A lot of these deals wont be in kmart circular. The rep post them on his facebook and cag just for gamers.

[kupomogli]

That's where I got mine. Dark Souls got $20, which I used on Dead Rising 2 and got $15, which I used on Batman for $30. I'll be using that on Uncharted and get $20 which will be used on Saints Row the Third, and since nothing else will come out for awhile, I'll use the $20 from Saints Row one an older game.

[exit]

I'm deeper into the game now and besides a few annoyances that are generally my fault, I've been completely drawn into the game. If I don't get lost solving Riddler's riddles, I'm frantically rushing to payphones answer Zsasz calls, or getting involved in one of the VR trainings, or doing a sidequest and end up completely forgetting about doing the main story.

As much as I loved Arkham Asylum, this is already better in almost every way, I truly feel like I am the Caped Crusader and almost want to shout out "I am Batman!." Rocksteady has outdone themselves and now sure how much better things can get if they decide to make this a trilogy.

As for the Catwoman DLC, I will agree that it's a low blow, but I'd blame WB Studios before putting the blame on Rocksteady. Regardless, WB struck a deal with Gamestop where people will still get DLC voucher code printed on their receipt when buying the game used, so it's not nearly as big of a deal as people are making it seem.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I'm also deeper in on day two, not by much, but enough to find that City has a much MUCH different feel than Asylum in terms of sandboxy-ness.

Not a bad thing at all, but I'm similarly finding myself getting distracted in the midst of getting from point A to point B on any urgent core story mission ... though, I think that while the game puts an onus of bat-responsibility on the player to get to your core story duty, it's really just there to keep you moving in the right direction, ultimately you've got yourself a game closer to something like inFamous or GTA4 where you can take your time and tool around as much as you want even though it doesn't really feel like it.

I can see how it might put of those who enjoyed the slightly more linear but back-tracky Asylum, but I think it's spectacular stuff so far ... there's just SO much to do, and getting into those massive 20 thug battles when you're really comfortable with the combat system flow is just awesome to watch (especially with Catwoman)!

[exit]

Just beat it and I know it's cliche, but they only way to describe it as is epic. It felt like I was playing an episode TAS, it was all done soo damn well, it amazes me that they were able get soo many villains in the game without it feeling crammed. Not sure how Rockstead did it, but this game makes Arkham Asylum look like complete garbage in comparison, so kudos to them for making one of the few games this gen that was worth every penny.

[portnoyd]

It's the first plus GTA sandbox. I am torn whether or not I like it better than the first. Right now, no, but it's still very good.

[Cornelius Spunkwater]

So the game rips off Escape from New York. So what? Holy crap, Arkham City is awesome.

[Ryaan1234]

I'm pretty pissed off about the single player pass that unlocks Catwoman content. The content not being on disc is pretty major in my opinion, especially given how much I've seen and I'm hardly even that far in the game.
For once I'm agreeing with kupomogli. I've never had a reason to use Xbox Live nor has my Xbox ever been connected to the internet. Imagine my surprise when I popped in the game and discovered that the Catwoman stuff was DLC and I was REQUIRED to be on Live to use it. This normally wouldn't be an issue but Catwoman is on the freaking back of the game box! At least include that content on the disc if it's going to be advertised on the box itself! (Yeah, I know the code was inside the game but I had to go to all the trouble of getting an account and finding something to hook my 360 to the net)

As for the game I think it's amazing. Rocksteady really outdid themselves with this game. Asylum was great but this game manages to be better than the original. The combat and controls feel smoother (although I understand that they are basically the same as the original... It feels like they tweaked something). The amount of locations you can see and visit and the number of villains that make an appearance is amazing. As has been said before they managed to put a lot of villains in the game without making it feel cluttered. With all the side missions and Riddler things you will be kept busy long after the main storyline is over. Without spoiling anything I'll say the ending is pretty epic, and I definitely didn't see what was going to happen.

I thought I'd point out one more thing.... If you scan around the middle-right side of the radio signal screen you'll find a channel with a female voice announcing a series of numbers. Is that part of a side mission or just some secret thing? I don't see anyone talking about that O_o

[kupomogli]

I finished Arkham City a little bit ago with only 53% of everything completed. While I enjoyed the game, I still found Arkham Asylum to be the better one.

The city in Arkham City just feels so cluttered. While on the ground, it doesn't feel as interconnected as it should and while there is a little, there's hardly anything of importance on the ground either. The interior locations of Arkham City don't feel nearly as expansive as Arkham Asylum.

Now one thing I did like about the game is how the combat is much better this time around. Instead of enemies attacking one at a time, two or even three enemies can attack at once, but you can also counter up to three, or even 20 depending if you're at a certain boss battle. Most gadgets in the game now have a quickfire option for use in combat, new combat skills, etc.

Also the villians. A ton of villians have been pushed into the game as well, as either sidequests or into the game itself. The actual bosses within the game itself were also pretty awesome, and unlike Arkham Asylum, you actually fought more than two boss fights. With Arkham Asylum, the only bosses you actually fought were Joker and Bane.

So overall, the game does things better that Arkham Asylum didn't, but some things aren't as good. It's a great game and while not being my personal favorite out of the two, it's not much worse.

[JSoup]

I thought I'd point out one more thing.... If you scan around the middle-right side of the radio signal screen you'll find a channel with a female voice announcing a series of numbers. Is that part of a side mission or just some secret thing? I don't see anyone talking about that O_o

It's not part of a mission, it's an easter egg. If you match letters to the numbers, it spells out I WILL RETURN BATMAN.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Just beat it and I know it's cliche, but they only way to describe it as is epic. It felt like I was playing an episode TAS, it was all done soo damn well, it amazes me that they were able get soo many villains in the game without it feeling crammed. Not sure how Rockstead did it, but this game makes Arkham Asylum look like complete garbage in comparison, so kudos to them for making one of the few games this gen that was worth every penny.

If it has a TAS feeling it's probably something to do with Paul Dini writing the story.

Shocking that he penned such awesome Riddler content since he admittedly can't stand that character.

[exit]

I thought I'd point out one more thing.... If you scan around the middle-right side of the radio signal screen you'll find a channel with a female voice announcing a series of numbers. Is that part of a side mission or just some secret thing? I don't see anyone talking about that O_o

I must be one of the first people to discover this, because I haven't really heard anyone else mention it. So far from what I know, only 2 have been discovered one saying (as mentioned abover) I will return, while the other says something like You will pay for what you did. Not sure what it's in reference to, but small things like this just are always fun to see.

Another thing that seems to be overlooked that no one else I know has done is with Catwoman, at a certain point turn right and you'll be greeted to a rather awesome cutscene. Kupomogli gave me the heads up via PSN literally right when I was on that very part and I immediately called my friends that had already beaten it and they said they completely missed it.

[kupomogli]

*edit*

Nevermind. I'm at work and had this left open and didn't submit it. Then once I submitted it, Exit already posted it :P.

Awesome part of the game though. The Mad Hatter cutscene is my favorite out of all that I've seen though.

[JSoup]

I must be one of the first people to discover this, because I haven't really heard anyone else mention it. So far from what I know, only 2 have been discovered one saying (as mentioned abover) I will return, while the other says something like You will pay for what you did. Not sure what it's in reference to, but small things like this just are always fun to see.

Some of the first Youtube vids up for Arkham City right after it's release where of these. So far, only two have been found.


Another thing that seems to be overlooked that no one else I know has done is with Catwoman, at a certain point turn right and you'll be greeted to a rather awesome cutscene. Kupomogli gave me the heads up via PSN literally right when I was on that very part and I immediately called my friends that had already beaten it and they said they completely missed it.

I know the part you're talking about and it's awesome. I found it on my first playthrough.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Joker just spouted an awesome LOST reference!!!

(Again, likely via Paul Dini's brillaint writing.)

God I love this game. I haven't stayed up past 11PM with an action/adventure game in like 3 years. Last night I hit the sack around 3AM.

[JSoup]

You know all that complaining about how the game keeps calling Catwomen a bitch every five minutes? I didn't see this in any of the articles about that, but I think Two Face also calls her a whore at one point. During the last Catwomen mission, one of the threatening things Two Face will say is "We'll kill you for this!", which is what the subtitles say he says.

But I and three other people who were present a bit ago for it swear he tacked the word whore on to the of that sentence.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Another thing that seems to be overlooked that no one else I know has done is with Catwoman, at a certain point turn right and you'll be greeted to a rather awesome cutscene.

That cut scene reminds me a lot of the events of the Batman The Animated Series episode "Over The Edge" (the one that opens with Batgirl dying).

Anybody who is a fan of BTAS and hasn't see "Over the Edge" NEEDS to go find that episode and watch it. Like, now.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Okay. Finished the main story modes for Batman & Catwoman yesterday.

Satisfied, though anybody who criticized Asylum for having a lackluster (in terms of challenge) final boss battle probably isn't going to come away feeling like City does much differently.

Ultimately, while "boss battles" are a key component of the Batman:Arkham games' formula, they don't strictly emulate the boss battles from a game like Metal Gear Solid (closest ones I could think of) in terms of difficulty/challenge. If you're quick to determine a pattern, you'll be fine with any of the game's bosses.

However, a question to the DP crew ... how many of you spent a good 30+ minutes or more on the final Catwoman boss battle trying to "set up" the proper circumstances before they realized that it was ultimately completely futile and you could just run in and do what you needed to do?

I dug the ending and I'm really really glad that the game allows for full completion of all of the remaining side-stories, item collections and Riddler trophies/challenges with both Bat and Cat after the credits roll. I'm going to really enjoy being able to tool around Gotham at my own pace without feeling the pressure to hurry up with the story.

This is currently my GOTY and I don't think anything else on the horizon for 2011 is going to top it. Can't wait for the next one!!!

[JSoup]

However, a question to the DP crew ... how many of you spent a good 30+ minutes or more on the final Catwoman boss battle trying to "set up" the proper circumstances before they realized that it was ultimately completely futile and you could just run in and do what you needed to do?

After about 20 minutes of sitting in the same spot waiting for the right moment, I suddenly realized that this was the second time the game had the big bad hanging out with the minions. Then it occurred to me that I might be making things harder than they actually needed to be.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

After about 20 minutes of sitting in the same spot waiting for the right moment, I suddenly realized that this was the second time the game had the big bad hanging out with the minions. Then it occurred to me that I might be making things harder than they actually needed to be.

Well, good to know that I'm not alone. :D

[kupomogli]

I spent a bit of time killing all his thugs, then I noticed he's been calling more out. So instead I did a loud takedown, and when all the thugs were coming towards my directions, went and hit him with a silent takedown and a combo once he got up. Repeat.

Not sure if that's the final boss with Catwoman as I haven't played anymore with her. I haven't, but has anyone tried to go back to Poison Ivy? That could always turn out to be some sort of boss battle seeing what Catwoman did to her plant near the end.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I spent a bit of time killing all his thugs, then I noticed he's been calling more out. So instead I did a loud takedown, and when all the thugs were coming towards my directions, went and hit him with a silent takedown and a combo once he got up. Repeat.

Not sure if that's the final boss with Catwoman as I haven't played anymore with her. I haven't, but has anyone tried to go back to Poison Ivy? That could always turn out to be some sort of boss battle seeing what Catwoman did to her plant near the end.

Heh, yeah, was trying not to spoil the action of the event for any who didn't get there yet, but AFAIK that's her final thing in the story mode leading up to the free-roaming portion of the game. Not sure if she has any specific side-stories like Bats or just the 4 "episodes".

[JSoup]

Heh, yeah, was trying not to spoil the action of the event for any who didn't get there yet, but AFAIK that's her final thing in the story mode leading up to the free-roaming portion of the game. Not sure if she has any specific side-stories like Bats or just the 4 "episodes".

Supposedly, we'll eventually get download packs that will extent or otherwise add story. Might be a bit more on Poison Ivy there, if anywhere.

[portnoyd]

I spent a bit of time killing all his thugs, then I noticed he's been calling more out. So instead I did a loud takedown, and when all the thugs were coming towards my directions, went and hit him with a silent takedown and a combo once he got up. Repeat.

I must have missed something or mine was bugged as I took out the thugs in short order with no respawns (really no setup other than outside the main room, the bottom floor, pounce the guy behind him, button mash).

Is the scene everyone's talking about with Catwoman is when she's holding the briefcases?

I finished the game right at 50%. I definitely liked AA better but AC was no slouch. The Catwoman parts seemed really too short especially considering they let you sink upgrades into her character. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to answer the riddles but I couldn't really care much about them.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I must have missed something or mine was bugged as I took out the thugs in short order with no respawns (really no setup other than outside the main room, the bottom floor, pounce the guy behind him, button mash).

Is the scene everyone's talking about with Catwoman is when she's holding the briefcases?

I finished the game right at 50%. I definitely liked AA better but AC was no slouch. The Catwoman parts seemed really too short especially considering they let you sink upgrades into her character. I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to answer the riddles but I couldn't really care much about them.

Yeah, it's odd, I've heard mixed reports of people being able to clear the room with no respawns, but I had about 20 bodies on the floor before I decided, OK, I'm just going to go beat the snot out of Harvey.

And, yes, the briefcase scene is the false ending if you go right.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

A rather profound thought occurred to me as I was collecting Riddler Trophies last night regarding prisoner containment.

This "prison" is on a coastline.

Like, 1/3 of Arkham City is on the docks ... and there are boats on the docks.

That .... doesn't, seem very ... secure to me.

[portnoyd]

No one in Gotham can swim, not even Batman. Duh!

[JSoup]

A rather profound thought occurred to me as I was collecting Riddler Trophies last night regarding prisoner containment.

This "prison" is on a coastline.

Like, 1/3 of Arkham City is on the docks ... and there are boats on the docks.

That .... doesn't, seem very ... secure to me.

Well, there are a few police boats here and there, they can probably move faster than a swimming inmate or a slowly drifting freighter. Besides, look how far it is from the coast to the anything that isn't Arkham City. I'd take forever by slow ass boat and be impossible to swim. Especially when you toss in the fact that the temperature is so low and the inmates have no decent food or cold weather wear.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Well, there are a few police boats here and there, they can probably move faster than a swimming inmate or a slowly drifting freighter. Besides, look how far it is from the coast to the anything that isn't Arkham City. I'd take forever by slow ass boat and be impossible to swim. Especially when you toss in the fact that the temperature is so low and the inmates have no decent food or cold weather wear.

I suppose, a bit of Alcatraz going on, but still, in a world where super villains congregate, I'm sure that they could have chartered some type of stealth party cruise liner and booked their way out seaward.

[JSoup]

I suppose, a bit of Alcatraz going on, but still, in a world where super villains congregate, I'm sure that they could have chartered some type of stealth party cruise liner and booked their way out seaward.

That's the thing, though. You'd think the whole super villain running amok thing might lead one or two of them to say "Let's super villain our asses out of here, yeah?" But they all seem content to just putter about and attempt to gain control of the city (apart from what is indicated during the none standard game over mentioned a few posts back).

[Gameguy]

That .... doesn't, seem very ... secure to me.
It's why Batman has to keep fighting the same villans on a regular basis, they keep getting out.

[Richter Belmount]

Loved it , reminds me of escape from new york

[Final Boss]

Loveitloveitloveit. Getting all the Riddler secrets to catch ol' Eddie felt kind of arduous, but everything else in the main story was quite all right. I wouldn't have minded having a story-driven mini campaign for Robin and Nightwing, though. Maybe in the next game *fingers crossed*

[JSoup]

Thought I'd just drop this here, a video depicting all the hidden crap that's been found so far. Lots of spoilers, btw:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxOM3-cNDA4

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Thought I'd just drop this here, a video depicting all the hidden crap that's been found so far. Lots of spoilers, btw:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxOM3-cNDA4

Yeah, Rocksteady put a tremendous amount of love into the details on this game. You are typically rewarded in spades for poking around, zooming in to read stuff on the walls, and just taking the time to enjoy the brilliance that went into the design of Arkham City and all of its environments.

And since it's related to this topic and in the expanding "universe" of Arkham games, anybody who has an iOS device and enjoys Infinity Blade should check out Netherrealm's (MK developer) new release Batman Arkham City Lockdown.

It plays a lot like Infinity Blade (Punch-Out dodge/swipe based combat) but with the Batman Arkham City assets. VERY fun stuff.

[Trumpman]

Beat this game today, shouldn't have been surprised that it was great given how good the first game was, but still. It's just so fun to be Batman. The combat is so satisfying.

Now to complete the side quests and (maybe) get all the Riddler trophies. Seriously Rocksteady, 440 trophies?? A bit overkill if you ask me.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Beat this game today, shouldn't have been surprised that it was great given how good the first game was, but still. It's just so fun to be Batman. The combat is so satisfying.

Now to complete the side quests and (maybe) get all the Riddler trophies. Seriously Rocksteady, 440 trophies?? A bit overkill if you ask me.

Even if you don't clear all the trophies, do the Riddler trap rooms. SO worth meeting Edward Nygma face to face.

[JSoup]

You may need to do another playthrough to finish off all the side things, depending on what you did during your run. A lot of quests become inaccessible after the game has been beaten.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

You may need to do another playthrough to finish off all the side things, depending on what you did during your run. A lot of quests become inaccessible after the game has been beaten.

I've seen people say that online but it's not true.

All of the side missions can be brought to 100% completion after the main story mode is finished. Once you wrap up your business with Joker & company and the credits roll you're free to take care of anything/everything that Arkham City had going on during the main game.

The ONLY limitation similar to what you're describing is that during the final chapter of the main story mode (when the GCPD is in the city) the side missions lock down.

[Trumpman]

Yeah, I've done a bunch of the side stuff after I beat the game. Only have Zsasz and the random "save the political prisoner" sidequests to do now, along with the Riddler stuff.

And yeah, the main reason why I want to do the trophies is so I can meet the Riddler in person.

I was kind of disappointed that you don't get to take down all of the side villains; I hope they release DLC for that stuff.

Is the Nightwing/Robin DLC worth it?

[sheath]

Somebody throw me a bone here, I'm sick of collecting trophies to finish the Riddle side quest. I noticed that there is one empty upgrade ? in Batman's page that I can't even see yet. Tell me this unlocks at some point and I can start solving riddles with those weight sensitive buttons on walls. Or that some interesting story twist happens that will make it worth this mundanity.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Somebody throw me a bone here, I'm sick of collecting trophies to finish the Riddle side quest. I noticed that there is one empty upgrade ? in Batman's page that I can't even see yet. Tell me this unlocks at some point and I can start solving riddles with those weight sensitive buttons on walls. Or that some interesting story twist happens that will make it worth this mundanity.

Batman's upgrades aren't tied to any Riddler side quests or trophies.

While there's nothing that allows you to cheat your way through the process of getting the trophies, the Riddler trophy hunt becomes easier (from a locating standpoint) if you track and interrogate Nygma's operatives.

Once you hit a specific point in the game you should get a tutorial showing you that in detective mode Riddler's operatives glow green. Take out every other goon in the group and leave those for last and you'll get the option to "interrogate" them. That will make all the trophies for a specific area light up on your map. It won't help you get them but it will show you where they are and interrogating every last one of his goons is an in-game stat/achievement.


Is the Nightwing/Robin DLC worth it?

It's just the challenge modes/fighting rooms. If you're completely obsessed with the game like me, it's very very cool to play as Robin and Nightwing and try out all of their gadgets, but there's really no stories that accompany those downloads. So, YMMV.

[sheath]

Batman's upgrades aren't tied to any Riddler side quests or trophies.

While there's nothing that allows you to cheat your way through the process of getting the trophies, the Riddler trophy hunt becomes easier (from a locating standpoint) if you track and interrogate Nygma's operatives.

Once you hit a specific point in the game you should get a tutorial showing you that in detective mode Riddler's operatives glow green. Take out every other goon in the group and leave those for last and you'll get the option to "interrogate" them. That will make all the trophies for a specific area light up on your map. It won't help you get them but it will show you where they are and interrogating every last one of his goons is an in-game stat/achievement.


Yeah, I think I've interrogated all of the goons. It isn't finding the trophies that is the problem, it is simply not being able to figure out how to open access to some of them that has me stuck, I thought maybe there would be another upgrade that would allow batman to hit pressure pads on walls. Ultimately, I don't think I will continue playing the game if it is just to solve all of the Riddler's puzzles. I just honestly can't see Batman going on a collectathon just because somebody put the stuff out there. Maybe I'll try the challenge mode some more, or the + mode. Overall I found Arkham Asylum more concise, I don't think I like the fight scenarios Arkham City creates with all of its open areas.