turbo grafx 16

[BobaFettHotep]

i got a turbo grafx lately and i was just wonder what games i should get for it that are not to expensive thanks

[-hellvin-]

Blazing Lazers
Bonk 1 & 2
Devils Crush
Dragons Curse
Galaga 90
Legendary Axe 1 & 2
Ninja Spirit
R-type
Splatterhouse

I think this is a decent starting list. No game should cost over 20, especially loose. You may pay a bit of a premium to get it with the case/box/whatever. The most expensive one on the list is probably dragon's curse. This is about the best I can recommend without throwing a ton of money out there. Don't expect to have much luck getting games cheap, it's one of the most priced gouged systems I have EVER collected for. I was extremely lucky to get a few forum deals for games, I'd definitely check the forums to see if some people have some of these common games they'd be willing to let go for a decent price.

Good luck and have fun

[Breetai]

No idea on the cost of the American version, but I highly recommend Air Zonk.

[eastbayarb]

No idea on the cost of the American version, but I highly recommend Air Zonk.

I second Air Zonk. The CD version is awesome too. Here are some more recommendations:

Platform:

Keith Courage
Bonk's Adventure
Legendary Axe

Shooter:

Blazing Lasers
After Burner (awesome port of the Arcade - better than the Genesis version)

Beat em Up:

Splatterhouse (Must own game, great arcade port!)
Vigilante

Adventure/RPG:

Neutopia
Neutopia II

[Arkhan]

Bloody Wolf (arcade shooter), Tiger Road (arcade beatemup), Sidearms (horizontal shmup), Veigues Tactical Gladiator (you might hate this game) and Silent Debuggers (first person action/RPG) for starts. Those are all pretty fun games. Bloody Wolf is an excellent action game.

and Military Madness, the best strategy game ever!

in all honesty, nearly every Turbo game is worth picking up. Theres only a few iffy games... and they arent even THAT bad usually.

dont forget Keith Courage either. and China Warrior. They're required games. Its a rule!

also, alien/devil crush pinball (if you like pinball), power golf (if you like golf), and Davis Cup Tennis (if you like tennis!). Are all really fun.

[A Black Falcon]

There is no US version of After Burner, it was Japan only (the only TG16 Sega port to get released in the US was Space Harrier). Also, US Air Zonk is somewhat expensive, it's definitely one of the higher-priced US cards. Neutopia I and espeically II definitely can be pricey too. And China Warrior is kind of bad, in my opinion... cheap, but bad. It's so hard and frustrating...

Anyway, cheap games? Yeah, good luck. Expect to pay $10-$30 for TG16 games, and only very rarely under $10. Shooters are definitely the system's best genre; platformers are generally very simple, NES-style. Some are hard and frustrating too, just like NES games. Anyway, cheap(er) games... Alien Crush, Keith Courage, Bonk's Adventure, R-Type, Sidearms, J.J. and Jeff, Legendary Axe, Blazing Lazers, maybe Bomberman, Dungeon Explorer, Dragon Spirit, Cyber Core, Devil Crush, Victory Run...

Neutopia and Military Madness might cost a little more, but are worth getting. Neutopia II... between the price and the long passwords, unless you have a TGCD or TurboBooster Plus (and thus have decided to spend a lot of money on this system), and can use the system saves instead of passwords (Neutopia I supports that as well, but its passwords aren't as long so not having it isn't quite as much of a burden) it may or may not be worth it. Bonk 3 and Air Zonk are generally pretty expensive too, and Bomberman '93 can be somewhat I think.

Really though, with the TG16 if you start liking it you will not be able to avoid sinking into a money pit. First it's just the US system, sure, and get some of the cheaper card games... but can you really resist getting a CD system? So many of the system's better games are on CD! And if you're doing that, a Japanese PC Engine Duo-R or Duo-RX is the best kind to get... and then you need to get it modded for US cards too maybe, and get an Arcade Card, and import games because so many of the best games are imports... and the multitaps, controllers (get some 6-button controllers for the fighting games, 3-button controllers for games with really awkward control schemes that use Select or Run as a button such as Forgotten Worlds...), etc... it adds up. Sorry, unless you really do stick to just the US HuCards, TG16 collecting is not cheap, to say the least. And while there definitely are a bunch of good US HuCards, there are so many great import titles too, and the Turbo CD had such a great lineup of games in Japan...

[Breetai]

I second Air Zonk. The CD version is awesome too.
There is no CD version. There is a CD sequel, but that's a complete different game. It's like saying that Sonic CD is a "version" of the original Sonic the Hedgehog. It isn't.

For the record, the original Air Zonk is better than CD Zonk.

If you like Blazing Lasers, also get Super Star Soldier and Soldier Blade.

Also, After Burner is only on the PC Engine, as were most of the Sega arcade ports.

I'm not trying to argue... just stating facts. :)


Keith CourageLOL It's cheap... but I'd wouldn't say that it's good. It's playable, and that's about it.

To the OP: if you enjoy the TG-16, I highly recommend importing a PC Engine Duo (or Duo-R/RX). There are a ton of great HuCard (Turbo Chip) games that never made it out of Japan. Also, the Duo (or the add-on plus at least a System 3.0 card) plays both US and Japanese CD games and importing the Japanese Duo is actually cheaper than buying the American one, even WITH expensive shipping.

The Turbografx-16 is a bit like the Saturn in this way; buying a Japanese console is totally worth it.

As for getting an Arcade Card for the CD... it's not really worth it unless you plan on blowing hundreds of dollars on the couple of worthwhile games that support it. Get a Super System 3.0, and you're covered for over 95% of the games. The 32X is more worthwhile than an Arcade Card, IMO.

[k8track]

Here ya go.

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1487
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7513
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12696

[ccovell]

the only TG16 Sega port to get released in the US was Space Harrier

Don't forget Fantasy Zone, Wonder Boy III & Monster Lair (Sega & Westone license) games too.

[Tron 2.0]

I can suggest a few titles if they haven't gone up in price,but bewarn alot of ebay sellers price gouge for TG16 games these days.

Blazing Lazers
Dragons Curse
Cadash
Neutopia
Galaga 88
Bonks Adventure
Legendary Axe
R-type
Dragon Spirit
Dungeon Explorer
Bloody Wolf

[Arkhan]

PC Engine collecting is no more expensive than anyother really.

Import duo-rx or just a duo-r (yahoo.jp for cheap ones! or Risingstuff.com!!!), play every Japanese game (get an arcade card for the measly library if you really gotta) and every CD game ever. most Japanese games worth playing are sooooooooooooooooooooooo cheap. Do a bulk order of like 30 games all at once, you're set for awhile.....

keep your US Turbo Grafx-16, play every US game.

rejoice.

i dunno about around you OP, but theres a shop by me that carries used TG games reasonably cheap like

10$ range cheap!

Most of what was mentioned is also pretty common if you know where to look :)

There is NO point in wasting the money on a US CD unit. For the price you end up paying you could get a duo-r or rx, which is a better machine altogether.

[lkermel]

I share the same feeling here, Japanese games are a lot cheaper. You could buy a Japanese Duo to play all/most of the action games and only purchase US RPGs such as the Cosmic Fantasy series, Ys and others if you can't read Japanese. CDs are not region locked so they'll work fine on your japanese Duo if you ever buy one :)

[jperryss]

PC Engine collecting is no more expensive than anyother really.

Import duo-rx or just a duo-r (yahoo.jp for cheap ones! or Risingstuff.com!!!), play every Japanese game (get an arcade card for the measly library if you really gotta) and every CD game ever. most Japanese games worth playing are sooooooooooooooooooooooo cheap. Do a bulk order of like 30 games all at once, you're set for awhile.....

keep your US Turbo Grafx-16, play every US game.



PC Engine collecting is no more expensive? You're a funny guy. Both system and game prices are jacked all over the place (no thanks in part to eBay whores) though for the most part PCE versions are cheaper than US versions, but still not dirt cheap like a majority of the 'good' NES/SNES/Genesis titles of the day. Pick the 'top 20' good huey or CD games, then 20 SNES games, and I guarantee the overall average cost is at least 50% higher on the TG stuff, probably more.

But it is an awesome system. :D A region modded Duo-R or RX with an Arcade Card Duo will play the entire US and JP libraries (except for SuperGrafx).

I do agree with going the Japanese Duo-R/RX route and I've had great experiences with RisingStuff (got a good portion of my games through them, and as you said, save your pennies and buy in bulk).




I share the same feeling here, Japanese games are a lot cheaper. You could buy a Japanese Duo to play all/most of the action games and only purchase US RPGs such as the Cosmic Fantasy series, Ys and others if you can't read Japanese. CDs are not region locked so they'll work fine on your japanese Duo if you ever buy one :)

THIS. Also remember that, regardless of which country your Duo is from, the black Duos had sound capacitor issues, the white ones (Duo-R/RX) typically didn't.

[-hellvin-]

Air Zonk is without a doubt pretty damn awesome and highly recommended. I skipped over that one because it's rather expensive. I think you'll have a tough time getting a low price on that one.

[Richter Belmount]

Is it compatible with castlevania 3 and star fox?

[jperryss]

Air Zonk is without a doubt pretty damn awesome and highly recommended. I skipped over that one because it's rather expensive. I think you'll have a tough time getting a low price on that one.

Agreed. I held out for a 'deal' on that one (I wanted the US version) and it was one of the last games I got. I think I paid $35 for game+manual (this game didn't come with a jewel case).

I forgot to make some game recommendations...most of these can be had at reasonable price ($10-15 tops):
Bonk's Adventure
Bonk's Revenge
Legendary Axe
Ninja Spirit
Bloody Wolf
Ordyne (lots of people hate this shooter but I'm a fan)
Neutopia
Dungeon Explorer
JJ and Jeff
Alien Crush

If you think you'll end up with a Japanese PCE or Duo-R/RX, some of these games are PCE only, and some of them are available in both flavors but the US versions are more expensive:
Download (awesome cheap shooter, PCE only)
Air Zonk (PCE version is reasonably-priced)
Street Fighter II CE (cheap, PCE only, make sure you pick up an Avenue6 pad for this one for <$10 usually)
Splatterhouse (PCE version is reasonably-priced)
Salamander (PCE only)

CD games (region-free, prices vary, typically more $$$ than hucard games):
Lords of Thunder
Gate of Thunder (US version includes the two Bonk games above, plus Bomberman)
Cosmic Fantasy
Prince of Persia
Splash Lake
Ys Book 1 & 2
Exile
Valis 2
Valis 3

[BobaFettHotep]

thanks for all the ideas
so is it possible to play jap imports on a us system?

[Daria]

*sniffles*

I want a Turbo Grafx... :(

I even have games already.

[jperryss]

thanks for all the ideas
so is it possible to play jap imports on a us system?

Hucards: No, you'll need to have a region-mod switch installed (some members on here or pcenginefx.com can probably do it) or a Hucard converter (expensive).
CDs: Yes, there's no region-locking on CD games.

Since you already have a US TG16, a Japanese Duo would give you access to the entire Hucard AND CD library w/no modding or converter needed (except maybe an Arcade Card but the catalog of games that require it is pretty small). Just throwing it out there.

[Arkhan]

*sniffles*

I want a Turbo Grafx... :(

I even have games already.

do you even have room for one? lol.



I think the turbo grafx is artificially expensive. Avoid ebay and its not that expensive at all.

[BobaFettHotep]

where would be a good place to buy

[Arkhan]

where would be a good place to buy

post a thread here about games you want

and try

www.pcenginefx.com

also, RisingStuff (japanese stuff)

youll find that if you ask real gamers instead of ebay sellers, youll get better deals.

Thats not to say ALL ebay sellers are idiots. Theres just a whole bunch of clueless types trying to cash in on the retrogaming market....and charging very off the wall prices for very not-so-expensive stuff

[starsoldier1]

Some of my favourites are:
Aero Blasters
Devil's Crush
Legendary Axe (not two)
Lords of Thunder
Meteor Blaster
Military Madness
Super Star Soldier
Y's Book I & II
Most of those should be fairly cheap too. I have about 100 videos on the TG-16 too if ya wanna see:
http://www.youtube.com/user/starsoldier1#grid/user/83BC26B67A840017

[Daria]

do you even have room for one? lol.
.

....no. You're starting to sound like my husband :(

[Breetai]

Is it compatible with castlevania 3 and star fox?
Drunken post of the week! :beaten:

[Arkhan]

....no. You're starting to sound like my husband :(

lol. you should just be all like

THERES ALWAYS ROOM FOR TURBO.

and buy like 6 of them.

[crux]

Not only are Turbo/PC-Engine titles more expensive than the average retro game on average, but finding them complete pushes up the price difference considerably, for the Turbo in particular. Where nearly every other system (including the Japanese PC-Engine) has just a box/case and a manual and maybe, at worst, a spine card, most TurboGrafx games, including many CD titles, have a jewel case and manual AND an outer cardboard box. That outer box pushes up prices far beyond just the jewel case, never mind the Hucard.

Of course, I am one of those eBay whores, especially around the time I got my modded SuperGrafx. Sorry about that.

[A Black Falcon]

First -- about those outer cardboard boxes, best solution is to just not bother trying to find them unless you're a serious collector. It's just not worth the expense, and the games have jewelcases anyway.


Don't forget Fantasy Zone, Wonder Boy III & Monster Lair (Sega & Westone license) games too.

You're right about Fantasy Zone, I forgot that one.

However, I wouldn't really count Wonder Boy III (Dragon's Trap) and Monster Lair because technically those weren't Sega, they were Westone... Westone developed them, Sega published and owned the Wonder Boy character, but Westone owned the code so they licensed it out to Hudson for them to make ports, etc... so they sort of do count, sort of don't, I guess.


It's cheap... but I'd wouldn't say that it's good. It's playable, and that's about it.

It's really not that bad, I thought... I had no expectations for it to be any good when I got my TG16 last year, but I actually did enjoy it. It is a little annoying sometimes, and there are some hard parts (such as the final boss), but there are workarounds or ways to figure it out, and I thought it was worth playing. It's definitely not a great game, but I liked it more than Altered Beast, at least, for sure...


To the OP: if you enjoy the TG-16, I highly recommend importing a PC Engine Duo (or Duo-R/RX). There are a ton of great HuCard (Turbo Chip) games that never made it out of Japan. Also, the Duo (or the add-on plus at least a System 3.0 card) plays both US and Japanese CD games and importing the Japanese Duo is actually cheaper than buying the American one, even WITH expensive shipping.

Yes, if you're getting a single system, getting a Japanese Duo-R or Duo-RX and then having it modded is almost certainly the best way to go. It'll cost more than the basic TG16, but similar or less to the cost of one with a TGCD drive, and that really is needed if you like the system at all, so yeah.


As for getting an Arcade Card for the CD... it's not really worth it unless you plan on blowing hundreds of dollars on the couple of worthwhile games that support it. Get a Super System 3.0, and you're covered for over 95% of the games. The 32X is more worthwhile than an Arcade Card, IMO.

If you're patient on EBay you can get Arcade Card Duos for ~30-40 and Pros for ~50-60...not too bad. Of course that's not counting game prices, and yes, the Arcade Card games are often pretty expensive, that is true. If you've got a modded TG16+CD or something, though, getting an Arcade Card Pro instead of a System Card 3.0 might be worth it, it's only like twice the price and you won't have to spend all that later.


Since you already have a US TG16, a Japanese Duo would give you access to the entire Hucard AND CD library w/no modding or converter needed (except maybe an Arcade Card but the catalog of games that require it is pretty small). Just throwing it out there.

Just remember that the controllers are incompatible unless you change the cables, so you need a separate set of controllers and multitaps for TG16s and Duos...

[Arkhan]

Not only are Turbo/PC-Engine titles more expensive than the average retro game on average, but finding them complete pushes up the price difference considerably, for the Turbo in particular. Where nearly every other system (including the Japanese PC-Engine) has just a box/case and a manual and maybe, at worst, a spine card, most TurboGrafx games, including many CD titles, have a jewel case and manual AND an outer cardboard box. That outer box pushes up prices far beyond just the jewel case, never mind the Hucard.

Of course, I am one of those eBay whores, especially around the time I got my modded SuperGrafx. Sorry about that.

PC-Engine games are ridiculously cheap all around. 8-15$ for stuff isn't really expensive. Every system has its expensive/rare stuff. The common TG and PCE stuff is comparable to the common NES/Genesis stuff....

[A Black Falcon]

PC-Engine games are ridiculously cheap all around. 8-15$ for stuff isn't really expensive. Every system has its expensive/rare stuff. The common TG and PCE stuff is comparable to the common NES/Genesis stuff....

Not really, it's almost impossible to find anything beyond Keith Courage and sports games for $5 or less on EBay for the TG16, while on the NES, Genesis, or any other major older platform there are plenty of choices in that pricerange, either in total numbers or proportionate to the size of the system's library. There aren't many systems with as few cheap games as the TG16...

[Arkhan]

O_o
quit looking on eBay then. More often than not, the prices there are wacky. I mean I've seen Keith Courage go for 24.99 on ebay. It sold. So who do we blame, the sellers or the naive buyers...!

Look on forums, post want lists/tradelists.

A quick browse of Rising Stuff's inventory reveals lots of cheap PC Engine games worth getting, and the local shops around me aren't charging out the ass for TG games either for that matter.

7.95$ for blazing lazers in case w/ booklet? :)
7.95$ for Fantasy Zone
hmm 9.95$ for Rtype...

Military Madness was only 12.95 Bomberman 93 was same....

Call me crazy but its not that bad.

[jperryss]

Just remember that the controllers are incompatible unless you change the cables, so you need a separate set of controllers and multitaps for TG16s and Duos...

That's a good point, and just one more reason to go with just the region-modded Duo-R/RX. :D

[nectarsis]

Man where are some of you people looking for games. While yes the TG market ( especialy with the outer box) CAN be ridiculous..with patience/common sense there are still plenty of deals, even on Ebay. When you bring up the PC Engine games...I can count on a little over one hand how many games I have spent over $20-40 on (out of a collection of over 300 bought within the last 2 years). Of course there are bigger $ titles, but also a LOT of complete games (even the OMG IMPORTANT spine card lol) that can be nabbed for $1-20..mind you this includes GOOD games.

[Arkhan]

Man where are some of you people looking for games. While yes the TG market ( especialy with the outer box) CAN be ridiculous..with patience/common sense there are still plenty of deals, even on Ebay. When you bring up the PC Engine games...I can count on a little over one hand how many games I have spent over $20-40 on (out of a collection of over 300 bought within the last 2 years). Of course there are bigger $ titles, but also a LOT of complete games (even the OMG IMPORTANT spine card lol) that can be nabbed for $1-20..mind you this includes GOOD games.

hey finally! Someone else agrees with me.

:)

[Breetai]

It's really not that bad, I thought... I had no expectations for it to be any good when I got my TG16 last year, but I actually did enjoy it. It is a little annoying sometimes, and there are some hard parts (such as the final boss), but there are workarounds or ways to figure it out, and I thought it was worth playing. It's definitely not a great game, but I liked it more than Altered Beast, at least, for sure...[QUOTE]
Agree completely. It's good for a play-though... once. It's incredibly average.



[QUOTE]Yes, if you're getting a single system, getting a Japanese Duo-R or Duo-RX and then having it modded is almost certainly the best way to go. It'll cost more than the basic TG16, but similar or less to the cost of one with a TGCD drive, and that really is needed if you like the system at all, so yeah.A Core Grafx/Super CD-ROM2 add-on is similarly priced and every bit as reliable as a Duo-R/RX. Sometimes the original Duo can be had for a bit cheaper, so that is something to consider; especially if you know how to solder in case you need to replace the sound capacitors. My Duo has been working absolutely fine, and it was originally bought in 1993 (I have the receipt).




If you're patient on EBay you can get Arcade Card Duos for ~30-40 and Pros for ~50-60...not too bad.
Really? In that case, I'll happily sell you a Pro for $49. Just ask! :)

[A Black Falcon]

Agree completely. It's good for a play-though... once. It's incredibly average.

I meant the Genesis version of Altered Beast, to be clear -- haven't played the PCE or PCECD versions. But anyway, sure, Keith Courage is average, only slightly above average at best. They should have made Blazing Lazers the pack-in. :) (I know some people would prefer Legendary Axe, but I don't like that game any more than Keith Courage really... the game's a lot like Astyanax on the NES, and I'm not a huge fan of Astyanax.)


A Core Grafx/Super CD-ROM2 add-on is similarly priced and every bit as reliable as a Duo-R/RX. Sometimes the original Duo can be had for a bit cheaper, so that is something to consider; especially if you know how to solder in case you need to replace the sound capacitors. My Duo has been working absolutely fine, and it was originally bought in 1993 (I have the receipt).

Well sure, if you can solder and know how to replace capacitors, a Duo's just as good as an R or RX. But for anyone else (like me), it could be a iffy choice...

Of course, I ended up getting a TGCD and those things have their own serious problems with those irreplaceable gears, so I shouldn't be one to talk... and yes, the prices for those are probably actually a bit less on average than Duo-R or Duo-RX prices, even if you also pay for a mod for your TG16, mostly because of the huge shipping costs for systems from Japan. At worst the price would be similar, but yeah, TGCD prices are likely to be a little less, though they definitely are not cheap -- $130 at least for sure, I think, unless you get lucky.

But anyway, if not for that gear stripping problem, yeah I would say that the modded TG16+TGCD+arcade card pro route would be just as good as the modded Duo R or RX+arcade card duo route...


Really? In that case, I'll happily sell you a Pro for $49. Just ask! :)

Whenever I get my TGCD laser replaced (the laser is dead. No, not the irreplaceable gear, the replaceable laser) and then get my TG16 modded, then I'll need an arcade card...

I really need to get that laser, and there are good instructions for how to do it on pcenginefx.com's forum, but I'll definitely need some soldering help for a few parts, and I can't do that myself... I might know who to ask for help, but that (and the $~40 or whatever cost of the laser replacement) has gotten me to put it off for a while. I do need to get to it though...


Oh, as for HuCard game prices, I have avoided spending over about $12 for games, which is why I've only bought like five or six games on ebay in the past year. There aren't many games listed for TG16 in the first place, and the prices usually go over $10 if people start bidding on them. TG16 games are somewhat rare, considering, so they really aren't that cheap apart from the very least interesting titles like those sports games...

Japanese games are definitely cheaper than US ones, though, so if you have an import or modded system getting import titles is a really good idea. Relative few TG16 games actually have enough script for language to matter, really... though having US versions is nice for some games, for sure. With that and how much rarer than the Japanese versions they are, it's easy to understand why US HuCard prices are higher.

[Arkhan]

yikes. 49$ for an AC Pro is kinda high from what I remember. Are we goin off ebay prices again?


The upside to getting a .jp CoreGrafx/CDROM addon is that System card 3 in Japan is retarded cheap whereas the US one is as much as the friggin system itself.

but if you're going to spend on the imports, might as well get a duo-r or rx. Nicer unit (smaller footprint), neat hucard door, and its lighter so you save on shipping.

[nectarsis]

Yeah $50 for either Arcade card is a bit high...hit japan (and others) have em fairly regularly for $20-40.

Case in point:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Arcade-Card-DUO-NEC-Core-Super-CD-JAPAN-PC-Engine-rom_W0QQitemZ270531280410QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item3efcebbe1a

[jperryss]

Man where are some of you people looking for games. While yes the TG market ( especialy with the outer box) CAN be ridiculous..with patience/common sense there are still plenty of deals, even on Ebay. When you bring up the PC Engine games...I can count on a little over one hand how many games I have spent over $20-40 on (out of a collection of over 300 bought within the last 2 years). Of course there are bigger $ titles, but also a LOT of complete games (even the OMG IMPORTANT spine card lol) that can be nabbed for $1-20..mind you this includes GOOD games.

Who are you buying your games from? As far as hueys go, I have about 40/40 (TG16/PCE), the majority of the PCEs from RS (arguably one of the more reasonably-priced sellers), a couple from pcenginefx members and a few from eBay (including Toshi, who's a great guy that everyone loves, but 9/10 of the time prices higher than RS). Very few were under the $10 mark, most were between $10-20, and about 1/2 dozen were over $20 (not including shipping). All were complete (huey/sleeve/case/manual) and I think only one had the spine card (SF2CE).

Compared to NES/SNES/Genny (that was the original statement) where you can easily find a cheap lot with at least a few good titles included pretty much any day of the week on eBay, Craigslist, etc (granted, it's easier to get a manual included with the PCE stuff compared to American NES/SNES, the Japanese seem to take much better care of their stuff than we do). And let's not even get into the CD titles, which are mostly priced even higher than the hueys.

If the argument is that there are less TG/PCE 'deals' because there are less TG/PCE sellers, I can agree with that. But you can't really believe that the same dollar amount with go as far with TG/PCE as it would with SNES/Genny carts, or especially NES carts. You may have gotten most of your games under $20, over a period of time, but there are very few 'excellent' NES/SNES titles that can't be had for under $15 (or $10 even) pretty much anytime, except for some of the RPGs (FF, CT, Earthbound, etc).


A Core Grafx/Super CD-ROM2 add-on is similarly priced and every bit as reliable as a Duo-R/RX.

Duo-RX is sexier though. :D



Yeah $50 for either Arcade card is a bit high...hit japan (and others) have em fairly regularly for $20-40.

I think RisingStuff sells the AC Duo for like $12. The Pro is a bit more.

[nectarsis]

As for where I get my games; a handful on PCEFX, some from RS (not anymore), but a VAST majority from good old Ebay.

Of course there will be more "cheap" games for systems that dominated the marketplace (NES, SNES) that's common sense...though quantity does also bring in a LOT more crap in the mix.

My point was all these people that seem to think the PCE is SO expensive obviously need to look around a bit more. Of course the TG market (especially complete/boxed) can be retardedly high $ at times, even that as a whole seems to be better than a year or so ago.

Also the only games for the Arcade Card that's pricey really are Sapphire, Madou Monogatari, and Strider. All the rest can easily be nabbed cheap (as well as a majority of the bi-compatible titles).

P.S. Anyone that seems to think the PCE cd/TG cd is as reliable as a DUO R/RX..I call sheananigans. While the DUO does have cap issues, it's fairly cheap/easy fix (and plenty of people on various forums know how to do it also)...the R/RX are less prone. The DUO's also don't have a gear that one day just up's and decides to shred itself off (that as far as I've ever seen is next to impossible to replace these days).

[sixwayshot]

For the TG-16, I'd pick:

Bonk's Adventure
Space Harrier
Keith Courage In Alpha Zones
Blazing Lazers
Tiger Road

Getting a Turbo Tap and Bomberman isn't a bad option, either. I don't own one, myself, but I'd love to.

For the CD system, you're on your own.

I'd kill to get a PC Engine with a CD attachment, but they're expensive as hell...

[Dirkfunk]

I think if you own an TG16, Parasol Stars is a necessity.

It costs a bit more. To me, it's very well worth the thirty bucks or so you'll spend.

Some lesser heralded, decent games I would recommend.

World Court Tennis - It's a tennis RPG!
Power Golf - Most people don't like golf games. If you do, this is a good one.
Dragon's Curse - It's Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap
Alien Crush - Yeah, Devil's Crush is better. But this is still a great game.
Dungeon Explorer - Get a turbo tap for this one. Gauntlet, but better IMO.
Final Lap Twin - It's a Racing RPG!
Aero Blasters - Great shooter. Available as Air Buster on the Genesis.

Avoid:

Victory Run - I think it sucks.
Sonic Spike - An unplayable volleyball game.
Tiger Road - Fun for a minute or two. the controls get more frustrating the longer you play.
Gunboat - Unplayable.
Falcon - Unplayable.


Also, watch Chris Bucci's Turbo Views series. Great, professionally done Turbo Grafx reviews. I think he makes the best reviews on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/spida1a

[c0ldb33r]

As for an arcade card, I don't recall mine being that expensive. I bought mine from another DPer. It's totally worth having as all of the SNK fighting games require it, and they are pretty fantastic translations.

[Arkhan]

what "cheap sega/nes" games are we talking about here. The Turbo stuff i see in stores is comparable to the genesis stuff. 8$ for China Warrior, 8$ for sonic 3, both CIB.

*shrug*.


Arcade Cards are like 10-15$ most times....

all the import PCE/PCE CD games are pretty cheap except for the rarities. Not much more pricey than any other system if at all.

I spent 200$ at rising stuff and ended up with at least 20 games for hucard/cd/fx

[Press_Start]

The TG16 is a criminally overlooked system yet the reason prices are so jacked up are thanks to the price gougers and the people gullible to dish out the big bucks.

Saying that, Ebay is the last place looking for cheap TG16 stuff. Buy/sell forum, PCEngineFX, Craigslist, GameTZ, CAG, etc. are better places to start unless the OP is patient and willingly to search the auction sites every day for good deals.

If you got a Wii, you'll get the prime stuff for a tiny fraction of the price (Air Zonk, Super Air Zonk, Ys I&II, Lords of Thunder, Super Star Soldier, Soldier Blade, Splatterhouse, Bloody Wolf, Dynastic Hero, etc.)

[ButtonMasher123]

Here is the my list of good games for the Turbografx-16 which I'll list by price range. These are prices for games with instuctions and jewel cases included. If you just want the game by itself than you can cut the price in half. The price ranges should hold up either way though.

$10 and under

Alien Crush
Blazing Lazers
Bonk's Adventure
Dungeon Explorer
Final Lap Twin
Galaga 90
Legendary Axe

$10 to $15

Aero Blasters
Bloody Wolf
Bonk's Revenge
Legendary Axe 2
Ninja Spirit
R-Type

$15 to $25

Bomberman
Devil's Crush
Dragon's Curse
Military Madness
Neutopia
Splatterhouse
Super Star Soldier

$25 and up

Air Zonk
Bomberman 93
Cadash
Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
Neutopia 2
New Adventure Island
Parasol Stars
Soldier Blade

[ReTrO-pLaYeR]

TurboGrafx16 is a great system. Unfortunatley, you are going to have trouble finding turbochips outside of online auction sites. You should start out with some of the highlights of the system, such as "Bonk's Adventure" and "Blazing Lasers/ GunHED". If you like rarer games I suggest looking for "Bonk 3: Bonk's Big Adventure" which was sold both as a TurboCD and Turbochip. "NEW Adventure Island" is also an excellent game to play and is the best of the franchise.

[BobaFettHotep]

i won an auction on ebay is this worth the $350 i payed



Turbo Grafx CD System
Hard System Carrying Case
2 TurboStick Controllers
2 TurboPad Controllers
TurboTap

games
CHINA WARRIOR
BRAVOMAN
NINJA SPIRIT
DRAGON SPIRIT
SPLATTERHOUSE
ALIEN CRUSH
BLOODY WOLF
KEITH COURAGE
KICK BOXING
BONK'S ADVENTURE
CADASH
VEIGUES
gate of thunder
BONKS REVENGE
Moto Roader
World Court Tennis
Double Dungeons
TV Sports Hockey
Final Lap Twin
Dungeon Explorer
World Class Baseball
It Came From the Desert
World Sports Competition
ys book 1 and 2
ys book 3

[Arkhan]

Yes. That's a good price for all that stuff.


Did you get System Card 3.0? Kinda gonna need one of them.

[jperryss]

Looks like you got a very good deal! Are the games mostly complete or loose? Got a link to the auction?

And yes, if there's no 3.0 card, you'll want to consider either:
a) picking one up (the US ones are pricey)
or
b) eventually having the system region-modded and picking up either a JP 3.0 card or a JP Arcade Card Pro.

Option B will probably cost about what you'll pay for option A (maybe a bit more) but will also give you full access to the JP PCE library. :D

[Robocop2]

I'm sure alot of people have already seen this but I still enjoy this comic
http://fanboys-online.com/comics/20070430.jpg

[Arkhan]

Looks like you got a very good deal! Are the games mostly complete or loose? Got a link to the auction?

And yes, if there's no 3.0 card, you'll want to consider either:
a) picking one up (the US ones are pricey)
or
b) eventually having the system region-modded and picking up either a JP 3.0 card or a JP Arcade Card Pro.

Option B will probably cost about what you'll pay for option A (maybe a bit more) but will also give you full access to the JP PCE library. :D

if you're good at it yourself the region mods super cheap!

and lets not rule out getting a converter, provided its a good one (kisado). .jp system cards are cheap. pennies compared to the converter! :)

...... but the US card 3.0 is always overpriced!

[starsoldier1]

If you are getting the CD or Duo upgrades there are cheap games for that too like:

Cosmic Fantasy 2
Implode
Meteor Blaster DX
Monster Lair
Sherlock Holmes
Splashlake

[Arkhan]

If you are getting the CD or Duo upgrades there are cheap games for that too like:

Cosmic Fantasy 2
Implode
Meteor Blaster DX
Monster Lair
Sherlock Holmes
Splashlake

and this new game called Insanity.

I hear its pretty neat.
ROFL

[YoshiM]

....no. You're starting to sound like my husband :(

My wife won't let me get a Turbo because apparently, as I don't recall saying it, I said I'd never buy one again. She's holding me to it too.

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

Why no one has bothered to post this completed auctions link is beyond me....
http://completed.shop.ebay.com/Video-Games-/1249/i.html?LH_Complete=1&_nkw=turbografx-16&_trkparms=65%253A13%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&_dmd=1&_dmpt=Video_Games_Games&_fsct=&_in_kw=1&_ipg=50&_oexkw=&_okw=turbografx-16&_sop=12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_udhi=&_udlo=&_pgn=1

Most all the end auction amounts are within very reasonable limits/common going prices for the titles for sale. Some of the stuff didn't even get low bids that were priced well. Seriously, you want decent games for the US system, you are going to have to be willing to shell out 10-30 on average depending on the title, and more for the fewer rarer TTI ones released near the end. Thats pretty fair considering you're buying quality titles on average, and stuff that doesn't tend to decrease in value over time. People who have collected and had to sell TG/PCE stuff tend to never take a loss on average. They usually always break even in the end, or turn a profit unless they don't know what they are doing.

Yea, its not like collecting for Nes/Genesis/Snes, but the fact is more carts were manufactured per title on average for those systems then with the Turbografx. It simply makes the stuff alot less common for you locally, so places like ebay and forums are key to getting what you want. Supply and demand, ect. This high priced spin stuff was very much the same that little bitch Nintega liked to champion around the PCEFX forums and on youtube.


YS III is sooooo expensive guys... :sob: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tkwWy0RNc)

Seriously, hed start threads about this every other week that would carry on to no end. He failed to grasp this, or how people on PCEFX were getting good deals, because all he did was search BIN and hit the first thing he saw, instead of putting in actual research and landing good deals. Less patient and investing no research= blowing more cash. Its that simple.

You simply have to shop smart and price compare if you want to save some cash. Collecting PCE instead of TG also helps save alot of cash in the long run. In regards to crazy seller prices, honestly most of the BIN prices tend to be within reason, and the end bid amounts, well, that has more to do with the bidder/buyer then the seller. Its the bidders who are deciding how much they want to pay per auction more then anything. Cant blame the seller for that, let alone blame someone for not pricing stuff within your budget/mindset. If they know the actual going rate or value of the game, you can't expect them to undercut themselves just to please the guy whos trying to save money.

There has only been a few really bad US sellers purposely trying to manipulate the USA TG market really with extremely overpriced stuff. Bullseye Videogames was the main one. They were a massive reseller trying to dominate a nich gaming market. I out bid them on alot of auctions back when I collected US stuff. Im not sure if they resell anymore. They tended to change ids every now and then.

[BobaFettHotep]

all the games were complete and no it didnt come with the 3.o card does anyone know where i can get one that doesnt cost 200 dollars

[Tron 2.0]

all the games were complete and no it didnt come with the 3.o card does anyone know where i can get one that doesnt cost 200 dollars
I'd say get a converter or have the console region modded and,buy a jpn 3.0 system card instead there usely $10.00+ ;)

[pseudonym]

What Tron said. Most convertors aren't too good, I would go with the region-mode personally.

[starsoldier1]

and this new game called Insanity.

I hear its pretty neat.
ROFL

Heh heh OK, Insanity is pretty cool and affordable as well.

[BobaFettHotep]

i think im going to go with the converter and the jap 3.0 card i can get the converter and the card for around 90 what are some good Japanese import games are playable and understandable buy a guy who only knows English

[BobaFettHotep]

which games require the arcade card?

[Arkhan]

i think im going to go with the converter and the jap 3.0 card i can get the converter and the card for around 90 what are some good Japanese import games are playable and understandable buy a guy who only knows English

go to www.pcengine.co.uk

It will answer all your questions! :)

lots of games like Rtype, salamander, gradius... theyre the same in Japanese.

Anything action/arcade style will be just as enjoyable in Japanese. If you click around pc engine software bible, you'll find lots of good games, lots of reviews and screenshots, AND it will tell you if they use the arcade card.

you will quickly find that like nothing uses it, and the only game worth having it for is Sapphire, and its expensive as balls. :)



Just get your system region modded for sys card 3.0. Lots of reliable, trustworthy people can do it for you.

[pseudonym]

Sapphire's kind of iffy as well, I thought it was a pretty decent game but I wouldn't pay $300 or whatever it sells for today. Buy the bootleg if you can find one, they're far cheaper.

[Press_Start]

i won an auction on ebay is this worth the $350 i payed


Nice haul but my CAG senses tell me it's a little too much.

I hope it came with CD system card, otherwise you can't play ys (great series btw) on the console.



And yes, if there's no 3.0 card, you'll want to consider either:
a) picking one up (the US ones are pricey)
or
b) eventually having the system region-modded and picking up either a JP 3.0 card or a JP Arcade Card Pro.

Don't forget c) PC-Engine Duo-R or Duo-RX. Just as pricey as a) or b) but plays both Amer. and Japan CD and SuperCD titles plus Japan HuCards and preferably better to get Japan SuperCD games cause US ones will cost a *very* *very* pretty arm and leg.

[Gameguy]

i think im going to go with the converter and the jap 3.0 card i can get the converter and the card for around 90 what are some good Japanese import games are playable and understandable buy a guy who only knows English
There's the obvious Dracula X: Rondo of the Blood, but there's also Future Boy Conan. They're playable without knowing Japanese, but you might not fully understand the cut-scenes as they're not in english. Future Boy Conan is a really good game, it made me look up and watch the show that it's based on. Luckily the show was fan subbed, the game is a faithful retelling of the show.

[Arkhan]

Sapphire's kind of iffy as well, I thought it was a pretty decent game but I wouldn't pay $300 or whatever it sells for today. Buy the bootleg if you can find one, they're far cheaper.

I am very bias towards games that have hot chicks blowing shit up.

:)

I wouldn't even call the bootleg a bootleg. The things so damn nicely packaged It dont even matter.

[jperryss]

Nice haul but my CAG senses tell me it's a little too much.

I hope it came with CD system card, otherwise you can't play ys (great series btw) on the console.


Don't forget c) PC-Engine Duo-R or Duo-RX. Just as pricey as a) or b) but plays both Amer. and Japan CD and SuperCD titles plus Japan HuCards and preferably better to get Japan SuperCD games cause US ones will cost a *very* *very* pretty arm and leg.

For all complete games, I think he did pretty well.

And yep, I've recommended going the Duo-R route (also what I have) at least once in this thread. The quote above was in response to his purchase of a US/CD system.

[BobaFettHotep]

i got the 2.0 card but i bought a Japanese 3.0 card and a Japanese to us converter for around 90 dollars

[Arkhan]

well that seems pretty reasonable.

Which converter did you get?

[BobaFettHotep]

Kisado

[Breetai]

yikes. 49$ for an AC Pro is kinda high from what I remember. Are we goin off ebay prices again?

That was exactly my point. They should only be $25-35 max (or less).


Duo-RX is sexier though.
I kind of like the black and purple of the Duo. Plus, it has a headphone jack.

Either way, I've got a Duo and a Duo-RX for sale right now! Yay! I played them both today and wasn't sure which I liked more, to be honest. The dark colour scheme looks GREAT, especially with the 2-button controllers... but the RX looks really good, too. I just don't know...

[Arkhan]

Kisado

oh good, you got a nice one, not some tarded up knock off.

aside from your TG-16 looking like it has an erection, youre all set now. Let the gaming commence!

[BobaFettHotep]

cool thanks for all the help and suggestions

[Nintega Grafx-16]

that little bitch Nintega

Not following the forum rules eh Mike? :shameful: