Top 3 Rarest N64 games

[Pichu]

What would probably be the top 3 rarest N64 games?

Only one that comes to mind for me is International Superstar Soccer 2000...
what could they be?

[portnoyd]

Clayfighter 63 1/3 Sculptor's Cut
Worms Armageddon
ISS 2000

[Baloo]

Worms is rarer than that Razor Scooter game?

[Pichu]

Ok, sounds about right.

[Mayhem]

Those four are definitely what I would list too... you can sort out which three it should be though...

[Bojay1997]

Worms is rarer than that Razor Scooter game?

I would say so. Hundreds of copies of Razor Scooter popped up on Ebay and were selling for less than $20 for almost two years. That was a while ago, but still it shows that the game wasn't all that rare.

[udisi]

I think Port hit it pretty good. maybe Stunt Racer 64, snowboard kids 2 is pretty tough too.

[Pichu]

hmm I need to go look up Snowboard Kids

[EnforcerOfJustice]

These are probably the most valuable in PAL land:
Starcraft 64
Conker's bad fur day
Paper Mario

ISS 2000 is ridiculously hard to find in Australia but doesn't command much money

[izarate]

Is ISSS 2000 that rare in the US? mmm... *ponders*


How much are loose carts worth? ;)

[Pichu]

I'm solidifying the fact that ISS 2000 is the rarest

[nensondubois]

Bomberman 64: The Second Attack

[DuckTalesNES]

Pichu, what part of Wisc. are you in?

[mr obscure]

You have to give pal and ntsc there own top 3.

PAL

1 . snowboardkids 2 (australia only)
2 . starcraft 64 (australia only and rumors say only 5000 copies made)
3.late releases in general and sleepers rush 2049 etc.


ntsc

1. clay fighter directors cut (blockbuster rental only)
2. iss 2000 (usa is the only country in the world that doesnt understand soccer)
3. late releases ,rentals only

[Pichu]

Um Ducktales I am in south Wisconsin. Around Madison.

[Mayhem]

"International Track and Field 2000" was also in the same sort of category as ISS2000...

[megasdkirby]

How much do these games fetch for? Hundreds? Thousands?

[jonebone]

Clayfighter Sculptor's Cut
ISS 2000
then it blurs depending on whether you are talking sealed or complete or what.

Worms and Bomberman 2nd attack are both up there though.

If anyone has a Sculptor's Cut manual PM me, I need to complete my boxed copy and know exactly what it is worth. I guarantee we'll reach a deal if you have one for sale.

[swlovinist]

I agree with the above lists, as I have an almost CIB N64 collection. 6 manuals away. Dang Clayfigthter Sculptors Cut manual....

[xDanx]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NINTENDO-N64-SNOWBOARD-KIDS-GAME-COMPLETE-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ260549968164QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Vid eoGames_VideoGameConsoles_VideoGameConsoles?hash=i tem3ca9fd0124

Snowboard kids no reserve if anyones interested...

[jonebone]

I agree with the above lists, as I have an almost CIB N64 collection. 6 manuals away. Dang Clayfigthter Sculptors Cut manual....

Damn congrats man. I'm taking my time but know the set will be really easy to finish after I get that damn manual as well. I've had 3 boxes come through my hands but no damn manual yet!

[Famidrive-16]

Clayfighter 63 1/3 Sculptor's Cut
Worms Armageddon
ISS 2000

Yeah, bam.

Beast Wars is also pretty close up there, too. I've only seen that game in the wild once.

[garagesaleking!!]

bomberman 64 second attack is pretty rare. I sold a loose copy for like $55 a few years ago.

[TheDomesticInstitution]

Yeah Bomberman Second Attack is pretty hard to find... I found a CIB a year or two ago at a video store selling off old rental copies. UFO Super Bowling is a hard to find too. There are only a few copies on ebay... there's only one CIB completed auction for $35 (also have one).

I've never seen the 1st 4 titles mentioned in the wild- ever.

[portnoyd]

I've never seen the 1st 4 titles mentioned in the wild- ever.

We have a loose Sculptor's Cut that we got from a Funcostop soon after the end of the 64's run. That's it for us as far as those 4 go.

[Pichu]

Hmm, at least I'll have a decent challenge when I am nearing the end of my collection

[TheDomesticInstitution]

So is UFO Super Bowling (with a box and manual) this rare? It's the only CIB auction that shows up on ebay. $227, and it's not even sealed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Super-Bowling-Nintendo-64-UFO-Complete-Box-N64-CIB-/220806741980?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item33691b7fdc

I have one myself. I actually had the chance to get two, but it was $14 and I meandered around long enough and the store closed. Had I known, I would have bought the second one.

EDIT: The bid history looks pretty legit- I may throw up my copy and see what happens. That's a lot of money.

[Vectorman0]

In my past experience (5+ years ago) the cart for Sculptor's Cut was more common than a handful of other carts, however the box for it was definitely the hardest to find on the system.

[FrankSerpico]

How rare are the rental only games other than Razor? Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine doesn't seem to go for sky-high prices on ebay

[Famidrive-16]

How rare are the rental only games other than Razor? Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine doesn't seem to go for sky-high prices on ebay

I used to see Indiana Jones around a lot, seems to be an easier to find rental game in this area at least.

I've come across most of the rental games at least once in the wild, the only ones I haven't found are Sculptor's Cut and Blitz SE.

[Baloo]

Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine is a bit easier to find because it was sold via the Lucasarts website as well.

[binici]

Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine is a bit easier to find because it was sold via the Lucasarts website as well.

I saw Indy the other week at the flea shop, should I looked into it a bit more...

[BetaWolf47]

What the heck is it with Nintendo systems and rare sports games?

[TheDomesticInstitution]

I don't know but I took pictures today, and I'm gonna put it on eBay tonight. I don't expect the $227 the last one sold for, but I'm thinking positive thoughts.

[Glitch695]

Um Ducktales I am in south Wisconsin. Around Madison.

There are a lot of us, I'm around Waukesha.



I finally just found a copy of Worms last month. The one I NEVER see in the wild, nor has my friend who owns a game store in Whitewater, is Starcraft 64. I mean I've seen it when it was new, but it just never turns up for me.

[Doonzmore]

So is UFO Super Bowling (with a box and manual) this rare? It's the only CIB auction that shows up on ebay. $227, and it's not even sealed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Super-Bowling-Nintendo-64-UFO-Complete-Box-N64-CIB-/220806741980?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item33691b7fdc

I have one myself. I actually had the chance to get two, but it was $14 and I meandered around long enough and the store closed. Had I known, I would have bought the second one.

EDIT: The bid history looks pretty legit- I may throw up my copy and see what happens. That's a lot of money.

That's incredible. I purchased a mint copy of that game off ebay only 4 years ago for 6.50. Even came with a plastic case. It's a late release and pretty primitive looking for a late release, but pretty fun and unique none the less. I assumed prices were in the 30 dollar range.

Last I knew factory sealed copies of Razor have show up on ebay all the time. Usually from Canada.

FYI Here is a list of all rental only titles on the N64:

Stunt Racer 64-Midway chose to release this one to avoid direct competition with its other racer, Rush 2049
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine-Also sold on Lucasarts.com. Same story as Midway. Lucasarts didn't want to detract sales from Star Wars: Battle for Naboo
Razor Freestyle Scooter-Released same month as Blitz: Special Edition. Blockbuster Exclusive symbol on front of the box.
Hercules:The Legendary Journeys-Initially rental only, though I'm fairly certain it later received a retail release.
Transformers: Transmetals-Initially a blockbuster exclusive. Blockbuster copies will have a "Blockbuster Exclusive" symbol on the box.
International Track and Field 2000-Does anyone remember seeing this one sold in stores? It's definitely one of the harder N64 games to find complete. Glad I bought a mint copy off here for 20 5 years ago. Thanks Qixmaster!
Clay Fighter Sculpters Cut-Pretty much the same game as 63 1/3 but with a few bonus characters.
ISS 2000-Sources say that this was a rental exclusive, but I've seen new copies for sale on the internet.
NFL Blitz Special Edition- One of the last 5 N64 games released. Nothing more than NFL Blitz 2001 with an updated roster. Still the same great game though. I haven't kept tracks on the rarity or value of this one. I purchased a mint copy from Blockbuster back in 2004 for 10.
Daikatana-Initially rental only but likely saw a retail release.
Duck Dodgers-Rental release during the slow summer months of 2000. Later sold in stores. Fun game.

I think that's all.

[TheDomesticInstitution]

That's incredible. I purchased a mint copy of that game off ebay only 4 years ago for 6.50. Even came with a plastic case. It's a late release and pretty primitive looking for a late release, but pretty fun and unique none the less. I assumed prices were in the 30 dollar range.

Yeah when I looked late last year, that was the range. I only found out about this because I was browsing "completed" N64 game auctions to find out what stuff has been going for lately.

[retrocollectorguy]

Clay Fighter is the rarest. I would say Stunt Racer is a distant second.

A few years ago I would of said ISS 2000 but they are everywhere now.

[Vectorman0]

Indiana Jones was also sold through Blockbuster.com

[jonebone]

My what a difference 18 months makes. I have a fully CIB collection now and have discovered quite a few sleepers and have new opinions on rarity.

On a cart perspective, nothing is rare IMO. Pretty much every single cart is always readily available on Amazon or eBay if you pay a BIN. So it's silly to talk about rarities on a cart basis.

So we'll assume CIB only (or even sealed).

ISS 2000 is overrated. The version with Spanish text on the back of the box is garbage. I used to think the version with English text on the back would command quite a premium. However, I believe this copy is indistinguishable from the Brazilian version... cart has same code, box looks exactly the same in English, manual appears to be the same. So ISS 2000 is only locally rare to North America, and copies will inevitably trickle up.

Sculptor's Cut... the clear capstone. I sold a CIB for a pretty ridiculous amount privately last month and there's a ton of demand for it.

Super Bowling. Yeah it's legit. I don't think $227 legit, but it's rarer than a Worms Armageddon and probably even Bomberman's 2nd Attack. However, there needs to be demand to go with the rarity, and demand isn't quite there yet (but maybe it is now?)

Stunt Racer / Transformers. Both are interchangeable and both are pretty rare. I expect Mint copies to fetch a premium in the future since most will likely be worn due to being rentals.

Indiana Jones - Lot of hype. It's the coldest title on N64 right now, no question. Prices are probably half of what they were a year ago as a CIB. It's definitely uncommon, but I've seen far too many of them for it to be rare. They've popped up everywhere lately.

Just my .02 from someone who collect(ed) N64 with a passion.

[jonebone]

Also, the winner of that Super Bowling is located in Australia. So if you aren't shipping internationally, it may sell for considerably less than $227. IMO, it's more like a $100 game.

[TheDomesticInstitution]

Also, the winner of that Super Bowling is located in Australia. So if you aren't shipping internationally, it may sell for considerably less than $227. IMO, it's more like a $100 game.


Didn't look that close at where the buyer was... but I wonder if all the higher bidders were international? Mine's up now, so we'll see what the tolerance is for two copies so close together. I'd really like to hold on to it for a while longer, but I just can't right now.

Also, I meant "rare" only in a comparative context in relation to other N64 titles. I didn't mean rare overall- like it takes years to rack down "rare".

[lauraleebm]

I don't know any PAL game very rare, all them appears every month.

[mobiusclimber]

I've seen most of these "in the wild" depending on your definition (do game stores count?), but the only one I would say was really "in the wild" was Worms Armageddon which I bought from a Goodwill for $5. I've yet to see ISSS or that Bowling game tho.

[Famidrive-16]

I've honestly never heard of uFO Bowling until this thread. So that has to be pretty damn rare.

[Aussie2B]

The game is just called Super Bowling. UFO is the publisher. Just throwing that out there in case that's causing confusion.

[otaku]

man I wish I had been able to buy some of these back when blockbuster and the local video store were selling them off but alas I was just a kid with limited allowance money :(

[SparTonberry]

The game is just called Super Bowling. UFO is the publisher. Just throwing that out there in case that's causing confusion.

I hadn't heard of the game before.
Didn't even know UFO published an N64 game, I thought they old existed in the current generation.

[portnoyd]

I'd just like to say that it blew my fucking mind seeing Bomberman Second Attack ending for $282 when I have a mint complete copy sitting on my shelf that I don't even know where it came from. What the hell is going on here.

[TheDomesticInstitution]

Maybe I should have thrown mine on the Bay, and not sold it here. $95 still was still a good price for Second Attack. Since when did people start giving a shit about N64 titles?

[portnoyd]

I dunno but it's crazy how much value is just growing and growing and very quickly too.

[jeffg]

i have gotten lucky in the past month as I got Stunt Racer with box for $2.50 at a game store, and gotten Super Bowling with box for $10 and Duck Dodgers complete for $5

So not bad finds in the wild in the past month

[portnoyd]

Yeah, the wild hasn't caught up to current prices for a lot of N64 so now's the time to hunt this stuff down.

[Aussie2B]

Strange that this oddball stuff is shooting up while the stuff that you'd expect to have high demand and values still is pretty reasonably cheap, like Ogre Battle 64 and Harvest Moon 64. I mean, if you look at, say, PS1, most of the rarest games aren't remotely close to being the most valuable, while the most valuable is more common but just has a fervent cult fan base. Maybe we've just hit a bump where there are a handful of N64 collectors desperate to complete their sets, but I don't think we can count on these prices to stay consistent. I don't see enough demand for something like Super Bowling to keep it at a high price.

[jeffg]

the big thing is the games being CIB
How many N64 carts do you see floating around compared to Boxed/CIB versions

I think the Rare CIB stuff will hold decent values as you know alot of collector's are wanting Boxed/CIB stuff and some of the N64 are down right tough to track down. I think N64 and SNES Boxed/CIB stuff for some things are much harder than NES

I think part of it has to do with the boxes being thicker and not as sturdy as NES boxes, so they got damaged or pitched more than NES boxes plus stinking Gamestop started throwing away boxes in the N64 era quite a bit reducing the number of boxed games

[TheDomesticInstitution]

My UFO Super Bowling went for $129 to a US bidder. I probably should have opened it up from the get go to international bidders, but I've heard so many horror stories lately. 3 people contacted outside of the country, and I allowed them to bid. Anyway I'm pretty happy, considering I paid $8 for it 3 years ago.

[jonebone]

Strange that this oddball stuff is shooting up while the stuff that you'd expect to have high demand and values still is pretty reasonably cheap, like Ogre Battle 64 and Harvest Moon 64. I mean, if you look at, say, PS1, most of the rarest games aren't remotely close to being the most valuable, while the most valuable is more common but just has a fervent cult fan base. Maybe we've just hit a bump where there are a handful of N64 collectors desperate to complete their sets, but I don't think we can count on these prices to stay consistent. I don't see enough demand for something like Super Bowling to keep it at a high price.

But N64 is hyped as "easy" to complete with such a small library. PS1 is far from that, the library is gigantic. So there will be many more collectors who attempt to get a fully complete N64 set, and the rares will always have value. I do think prices are a bit inflated right now and will cool off, but in the long run, they're definitely going up from here.

Also, N64 has no end labels and the cart only set is dull for that reason. So you either make your own end labels (or buy them), if you store them on a shelf, or perhaps you go CIB. Another reason why CIB will be popular on this system, glad I finished my set already.


My UFO Super Bowling went for $129 to a US bidder. I probably should have opened it up from the get go to international bidders, but I've heard so many horror stories lately. 3 people contacted outside of the country, and I allowed them to bid. Anyway I'm pretty happy, considering I paid $8 for it 3 years ago.

Yeah the guy who won it is an NA mod and that was the very last game he needed for a CIB set. There was also a Canadian bidder on NA who was offering a free $50 to the winning buyer if they'd win it and ship it to him. So I'm kind of surprised it didn't go for more.

I think it's about a $100 title with a good bit of upside in the future.

[Aussie2B]

Well, I wouldn't call a complete N64 cart collection "dull". It's still a big accomplishment, and I'd love to have one myself. I mean, bottom line, the games themselves are the most important thing, not a box that you'll probably glance over once and then leave sitting on a shelf for years and years. I wouldn't really see the boxes as a storage solution either. Of my 100+ N64 game collection, I have a fairly large percentage of them boxed, but almost none of them are actually stored in their boxes (mostly just the Japanese games, which have sturdy plastic trays). The boxes are just way too flimsy. I just put the boxes on the shelf for display and put the carts away in a drawer/box/tub/etc.

How rare exactly, using the DP numerical system, would you say a complete Super Bowling is? I'm just skeptical that anything on N64 is quite as rare as, say, the rarest of the pre-crash games, which are indeed the most expensive games for those systems. I think, in time, with maybe one or two exceptions if they REALLY have the rarity to back them up, the most valuable games for N64 are going to be ones with high demand, not unless there's going to be a steady stream of collectors dying to finish a CIB set. The N64 library may be smaller than most mainstream system libraries, but it's still a considerable number of games to collect. It's also a system with a very mixed reception (look at the least played system topic; practically every other system named is N64), so I don't think THAT many people are going to go for a CIB set. Heck, looking at the Dreamcast, a system with a comparable library, albeit a bit smaller yet and a mostly positive cult status; aren't its most valuable games still largely determined by demand (demand from those that want to play, that is, not demand from those completing a set)?

Well, I'm just throwing my theories out in the wind. We'll see how things play out in time.

[jonebone]

Well, I wouldn't call a complete N64 cart collection "dull". It's still a big accomplishment, and I'd love to have one myself.

I didn't mean the cart only set is "dull" as in boring, just "dull" as in doesn't display well. Cart only NES / SNES sets display great due to end labels. With N64 you're going to improvise somehow.



How rare exactly, using the DP numerical system, would you say a complete Super Bowling is? I'm just skeptical that anything on N64 is quite as rare as, say, the rarest of the pre-crash games, which are indeed the most expensive games for those systems. I think, in time, with maybe one or two exceptions if they REALLY have the rarity to back them up, the most valuable games for N64 are going to be ones with high demand, not unless there's going to be a steady stream of collectors dying to finish a CIB set. The N64 library may be smaller than most mainstream system libraries, but it's still a considerable number of games to collect. It's also a system with a very mixed reception (look at the least played system topic; practically every other system named is N64), so I don't think THAT many people are going to go for a CIB set.

I don't follow the DP guide at all. I believe Super Bowling, on a CIB basis, is a top 5 rarity for the system... at least until a stash floods the market. But in today's market, it's there.

Being in demand doesn't necessarily lead to a high price. Look at Marios / Zeldas which are always in demand but never the most expensive CIBs on a system.

As far as popularity, it has a few things going for it.

1) Arguably the best local multiplayer system ever. Anyone who played it as a kid remembers countless hours spent playing Goldeneye or Mario Kart.

2) Started modern day franchises of Mario Party / Smash Bros / Paper Mario.

3) The end of cartridge based Nintendo systems. Most collectors in the hobby complete goals and move to new ones if they stick it out long enough. Natural progression for many collectors would be NES -> SNES -> N64.

Some people like it, some people hate it. But I know there not enough CIBs of the rares to go around for all the current interest. And I think we're still far away from when N64 interest will be at a peak.

[Aussie2B]

Well I know demand alone won't do it. :P It takes a little bit of rarity. Suikoden 2 and Valkyrie Profile are far from being the rarest PlayStation games, but they're definitely rarer than a Twisted Metal or Crash Bandicoot. That's why I think games like Harvest Moon 64 and Ogre Battle 64 fit the model of a valuable game more since they're relatively uncommon and desired, but, if anything, I think Harvest Moon 64 has actually gone down since a few years ago.


The end of cartridge based Nintendo systems. Most collectors in the hobby complete goals and move to new ones if they stick it out long enough. Natural progression for many collectors would be NES -> SNES -> N64.

Heh, I'm a bit skeptical of that one. For one, if someone actually shoots for a full CIB NES and SNES set first, they'll probably never get to N64, haha. But seriously, there are so many people that adore NES and/or SNES that despise the N64. I see the future of N64 collectors, for the most part, being kids that were too young to even experience NES and SNES and thus grew up with N64. It's unfortunate that there aren't more older collectors that enjoy N64, but that's just the way it is.

[portnoyd]

More than likely, they'll go loose NES, SNES, stop halfway through and go to N64 and then go back to SNES.

[wingzrow]

I don't know if it's been mentioned but aren't there only like 5000 copies of Bangai-oh! in japan?

[Aussie2B]

Supposedly 10,000.

I imagine Bomberman 64 (not to be confused with Baku Bomberman, known as Bomberman 64 in the US) probably has a very small print run too.

[TheDomesticInstitution]

Yeah the guy who won it is an NA mod and that was the very last game he needed for a CIB set. There was also a Canadian bidder on NA who was offering a free $50 to the winning buyer if they'd win it and ship it to him. So I'm kind of surprised it didn't go for more.

I think it's about a $100 title with a good bit of upside in the future.

Well, several canadian buyers and an australian buyer asked me, and I lifted the restrictions. I don't know if he was one of them. The thing is it stayed 6.50 until the last 30 minutes, which is when the bulk of the bidding took place. I think it may have went for a little higher had people not waited to the last minute. No worries though, I never ever thought I'd sell that game for that much. Considering I had seen 2 copies in the same small town at 2 different video stores.

[leatherrebel5150]

More than likely, they'll go loose NES, SNES, stop halfway through and go to N64 and then go back to SNES.

Funny this is what I did, although not halfway through the first two. I got about 100 Nes games, 75, SNES and then I jumped right into N64 and have about 110 of them. I grew up in a way with both the SNES and N64. I always had a SNES and thats all I had until the PS2. My best friend had an N64 and I was always over his house playing it so there is alot of good memories there.

I plan on finishing my cart only N64 before going back to SNES and NES because it is much quicker and easier just on the size of the library alone.

While I see the point in one of the posts above that the carts are boring on a shelf but you can do what I plan to do and get a bunch of Universal cases and print out covers. Its alot cheaper to do it this way rather than go CIB.

[frogofdeath]

I applaud you CIB completists out there. N64 is one of my favorite systems and all games I have are boxed, but I only have a small hand full and have actually recently sold quite a few of the games I did have.

Just curious, other than the few games already mentioned, are there any other N64 games that are currently bringing in beaucoup bucks?

[FrankSerpico]

How rare is Mia Hamm soccer? I saw it the other day at a local pawn shop

[leatherrebel5150]

How rare is Mia Hamm soccer? I saw it the other day at a local pawn shop

Not rare you can get one on ebay for $5.