In or out? Leaving cartridges in consoles.

[fahlim003]

I guess I've been thinking about this more lately and presently I am under the idea that leaving a game cartridge in a console cartridge slot for an extended period of time is bad for the slot as it bends the pins out faster than normally.

I'd like to have some evidence to support or deny my claim and essentially have others share their stories on cartridge slots alike.

I would like to leave a game in a my SNES or Genesis, thinking it's a better stop-measure to prevent dust than the covers themselves but somehow long-term deterioration I feel is sped up due to the extended cartridge insertion. Saturn too is a tricky situation, what with the stories I've heard and encountered with the expansion slot.

Feel free to add.

[goldenegg]

I personally tend to leaves carts in the slot most of the time. I haven't experienced any issues because of it, even with my Saturn. I'd think the force of constantly inserting and removing carts would be more troublesome to the systems, but it would probably take a lot of cart changes to have any adverse effects.

I've actually started to use flash carts for my NES, SNES, Genesis and PC-Engine systems. That way I keep my originals on the shelf and place ROM files for each of those games on the flash cart. The flash carts constantly stay in the system, unless being transported somewhere. It's nice to boot up the system and get a list of all the games you own.

[Matt-El]

I leave them in. Unless it's an NES (where you experience it most, but it's an easy fix anyway) or a 32x (as I NEVER leave a cartridge in that flimsy thing, and where after use i completely disassemble and put into storage) I always keep em in. Easy to keep the console clean IMO.

[Icarus Moonsight]

It's just a daughterboard. I didn't/don't yank my out modem, video and other controller cards from the slots in my PCs after every use...

Frequent ins and outs is surely worse on the slot than leaving one connected for extended periods. I don't think either is really bad on console slots though, on the average. The toaster NES is probably best for plug and leave. But that's not the fault of the user or their behavior.

[buzz_n64]

I leave them in mainly to keep the dust out, save shelf space, and have something to instantly play. It also helps stop the constant wear from removing carts all the time.

[SPAZ-12]

In terms of bending the pins out faster, metal fatigue sets in as a result of frequently bending the metal, not by keeping it under stress. So, in theory, it's better to leave the game in (assuming you're going to go back and play the same game later).

Personally, I usually take the game out, because it's likely that I'll want to play a different game once I turn the system on next time. Plus I like to keep all my games on the shelf where I can see them.

[RP2A03]

With the exception of my portables I always remove the game from the console when done playing and return it back to its plastic sleeve. Never once had I have a problem with any systems that were bought new, even the old toaster NES still works perfectly on the first try. I never even had to clean it or any of the games that were bought new.

As long as you take care of your stuff it probably doesn't matter either way unless it doesn't have a dust cover, like portables, then it's best to leave something in.

[Aussie2B]

I wouldn't recommend putting a game in and pulling it out over and over through the course of playing through a game. If the game has a battery in it, you might not put it in well or what have you, it won't load up right, and then once you get it working you may find your save file is gone. I mean, I keep my games and systems clean, but even my stuff doesn't always work on the first try. Granted, if I or somebody else wants to play something different, I have no qualms swapping games, but I'm not about to take a game out every single time I shut the system off.

Now, if you're talking about the periods between games, I don't leave games in my systems all the time. When I'm finished with a game, I put it away, and the system will stay empty until I decide to play something else on it, which may be months or even years.

[Ed Oscuro]

Currently I've got a game in a A/V Famicom (same appearance as the NES toploader) and I'm leaving it in there.

The toaster does have more problems with the pins being "stretched" out but leaving a cartridge in there isn't the problem - pushing it in and pulling it out repeatedly is.

Another problem to be aware of is losing the contact surfaces. Repeated wear on the contacts means eventually either the game or the system is going to have trouble making contact.

And now, the possibility interesting part:

A related problem which I read about (along with rubbing off the contacts) a couple years ago in a computer maintenance bible (about a '97 edition I believe) is the possibility of chemical reactions between different types of contacts - I'll have to take a look at it sometime. It's worth noting that if your contacts are gold there shouldn't be any problem at all (since gold is quite stable, but it rubs off rapidly). This was said to affect RAM sticks mainly, and over the years they have used different types of conductor - tin, gold, some others I'm sure. I don't know if this could be a problem for the Famicom, though I kind of doubt it..

[Steven]

I always leave a game in my system. I only take it out when I'm ready to move on to the next (i.e. I beat it, or got to the last level). This way it also encourages me to stick with a game before jumping to the next, getting maximum value out of a game :)

I read in the past you should take the cart/CD out but I never listened to that advice and it has never damaged my games yet.

[Nebagram]

I always take them out unless it's the jaguar, which of course has no flaps. Then again, neither does the 2600 or the 7800...

Incidentally I miss the Master System 2's 'flip top lid'.

[dendawg]

I always take them out unless it's the jaguar, which of course has no flaps. Then again, neither does the 2600 or the 7800...

The 2600 (at least up to the Vader, IIRC) does indeed have a flap, if you look between the prongs on the cart slot. That's why there are prongs on the cart too.

[NESGamer24]

I usually take them out. I do keep the memory card in my Saturn. That has been in the Saturn continuously for over 13 years and I have no trouble with it.

When I used them a lot I probably kept the game in but now since I put everything away after each use I remove the cartridges.

[MASTERWEEDO]

I always kept games in the system. i think there are games in about half my systems right now.

[BetaWolf47]

Though I leave them out, I have experienced no negative effects from leaving them in. I don't see how pins could get bent from something sitting idly by them. If anything, it protects the pins from dust and dirt.

[Purkeynator]

I think the conclusion we have come to is that it doesn't really matter either way. Or else we need another 20 years of testing to find more definitive proof.

[Ed Oscuro]

Or else we need another 20 years of testing to find more definitive proof.
NES carts with the connector traces worn down are your proof that constant placing and replacing - or at least rough handling - are no good. I'd rather leave a cartridge in place myself.

[Baloo]

Leaving it in place rather than consistantly taking the cart out and putting it back in will reduce scratching on the pins of the cart and reduce bending on the pins inside the console. Dust also won't gather up with a cart inside.

I leave all the carts in myself.

[Voliko]

I leave carts in, a game system just wouldn't look right without one in it all the time.

[Flippy8490]

Leave em' in for me. Its a dust repellant and dosen't wear as hard on the cart slot.

[scooterb23]

In or out? That's what she said.

I leave 'em in. Been doing it for 30 years, ain't gonna stop now.

[Snappaccino]

For handheld systems I like to keep a game in there to keep the dust out. With disc based systems I always take the disc out. For cart systems I tend to take them out when I'm done playing cause chances are next time I'm gonna play a different game. But when I know I'm gonna play the same game again later, I keep it in. So it all depends on if I want to keep playing the game later or if I want to play a different one.

[Oldskool]

I was looking at some 32X installation instructions last night, ans Sega recommends leaving the 32X installed to keep the pins in good shape. So there you go, Sega says not to insert/remove often.

[Rogue]

I was looking at some 32X installation instructions last night, ans Sega recommends leaving the 32X installed to keep the pins in good shape. So there you go, Sega says not to insert/remove often.

Well, Nintendo says to remove everytime you finish playing with the N64.
So, considering that Sega left cartridge consoles before, Nintendo's know-how about it should be better.
So, take it out.

[dendawg]

Well, Nintendo says to remove everytime you finish playing with the N64.
So, considering that Sega left cartridge consoles before, Nintendo's know-how about it should be better.
So, take it out.

So, Nintendo knows better than Sega because they were making cart-based systems for longer?

That's kinda like saying FDR is the best president of all time because he was in office the longest. :rolleyes:

[RP2A03]

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"Remove the cartridge or I will bite your head off."

[Moose]

I don't mind leaving them in as long as I am working on it. But now that I've learned to change out the pin connector in my NES, I don't mind just enjoying it without being paranoid.

Am I correct in thinking that if two different metals are left in contact and it is humid enough corrosion is actually sped up dramatically?

[Oldskool]

Well, Nintendo says to remove everytime you finish playing with the N64.
So, considering that Sega left cartridge consoles before, Nintendo's know-how about it should be better.
So, take it out.

Haha, ok sure, Nintendo knows best. Like mentioned before, add on cards for your computer stay put all the time.. and they don't have any issues. In fact going back in years later to upgrade your video or sound card, you'll notice that the mainboard has a death grip on them, they just don't fall out.

I just picked up a Genesis (high deifinition graphics) model 1 yesterday for 10 bucks on craigslist, the guy said all he had was columns, and it was always inserted in his console, for the past ten years. That Genesis has a TIGHT grip on it's games. All the other cart based consoles that I have are not like that, and I play different games on them often, including the N64.

[fahlim003]

Lots of great feedback, thanks. Perhaps I can go back to my old ways of leaving loose cartridges lie, as in sit inside the slot.


Well, Nintendo says to remove everytime you finish playing with the N64.
So, considering that Sega left cartridge consoles before, Nintendo's know-how about it should be better.
So, take it out.

Interesting point, a friend of mine bought his N64 new and left cartridges inserted most of the time. He has trouble with some of his games and possibly the system too, so I wonder if his system itself was faulty or it was due to the slot.

[scooterb23]

Lots of great feedback, thanks. Perhaps I can go back to my old ways of leaving loose cartridges lie, as in sit inside the slot.



Interesting point, a friend of mine bought his N64 new and left cartridges inserted most of the time. He has trouble with some of his games and possibly the system too, so I wonder if his system itself was faulty or it was due to the slot.


I've had the same copy of Pokemon Snap sitting in my N64 for a decade now, and it still works fine. Of course, one or both of us could just be dealing with luck.