Atari Jaguar or 3DO?

[UnpluggedClone]

Google 4 Gaga

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

Both systems have nice titles, but if you really had to get down to over all quality of games and selection too, the 3DO wins easily.

[todesengel]

As much as I enjoy my Jaguar I'm gonna have to go with the 3DO, there's just more worthwhile games for it after you dig through the crap.

[Nintega Grafx-16]

This is like asking which pile of dung smells worse. LOL

Seriously I think 3DO is a slightly better system due to the fact it has Samurai Shodown and Super SFII Turbo but then again the handfull of good games for it can easily be found on better systems.

[Trebuken]

3DO. I bought one at launch, and loved the few games I had....Wing Commander, Total Eclipse, Crash n' Burn, Monster Manor, etc.

The Jaguar is definitely next on the list though.

[chrisbid]

the jaguar

the holy trinity of classic video game companies are nintendo, sega, and atari. the jag my not be much of a swan song for atari... but it was the big finale for the company and is collectable the same way the virtual boy and 32x are collectable.


the 3DO really doesnt have much of a legacy.

[nectarsis]

3DO easily. Granted I do have a LOT more play time on one than a Jaguar, but very, very little on the Jag grabs me.

[bigred5687]

Go with the 3DO I enjoy mine

[Shadow Kisuragi]

I'll be honest...it depends on your style of games. Most people will probably go with the 3DO because it's a friendlier system with a wider game selection, but I happen to have both and enjoy both equally.

Have you looked up some of the titles for the games on Youtube to help decide? There are channels out there that specifically cater to 3DO and Jaguar.

[retroman]

I have both the Jag, and Jag CD. Dont get me wrong, i love em both, but the 3DO does have better games and graphics.

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

I doubt this would even be considered a end all list of decent titles for each system, but these are ones I had saved as check list for titles I consider wants for each platform since I had owned most of them. The few I did not own I know people who do who tout them as must, so I kept them on my list. Definitely enough on each to make someone happy, but yea, as I and others said, 3DO has more/is better:

3DO titles ranging from good to great (almost 90 about):
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Slayer
Alone in the Dark
Alone in the Dark 2
Total Eclipse
Battle Chess
BattleSport
Trip'd
Belzerion
Brain Dead 13
Burning Soldier
Bust-A-Move
Cannon Fodder
Twisted
Zhadnost
Captain Quazar
Corpse Killer
Crash 'N Burn
Ultraman Powered
Creature Shock
Cyberdillo
D
Daedalus Encounter
Demolition Man
Way of the Warrior
Wolfenstien 3D
Yu Yu Hakusho
Dragon's Lair
Escape from Monster Manor
FIFA International Soccer
Flashback
Flying Nightmares
Foes of Ali
Star Fighter
Gridders
Gex
Soccer Kid
Guardian War
Horde
Space Hulk
Mazer
MegaRace
Star Blade
Star Control 2
Microcosm
Hell
Immercenary
Iron Angel of the Apocalypse
Iron Angel of the Apocalypse: The Return
Jammit
Killing Time
John Madden Football
Johnny Bazookatone
Lucienne's Quest
Myst
Lost Eden
Need for Speed
Night Trap
Novastorm
Off-World Interceptor
Out of This World
Panzer General
Pyramid Intruder
Pataank
Shanghai: Triple Threat
Shock Wave
Slam 'N Jam '95
Shock Wave Operation Jumpgate
Shockwave 2 Beyond the Gate
Royal Pro Wrestling
Road Rash
PO'ed
Policenauts
Syndicate
Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon S
Primal Rage
Scramble Cobra
Quarantine
Return Fire
Return Fire: Maps O' Death
Samurai Shodown
Stellar 7
Strahl
Theme Park
Super SF 2 Turbo
Super Wing Commander
Wing Commander 3
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Jaguar cart and CD titles ranging from good to great (almost 40 about):
Alien vs. Predator
Tempest 2000
Cybermorph
Ultra Vortek
Defender 2000
NBA JAM TE
Wolfenstein 3D
Ruiner Pinball
Doom
Pitfall Mayan adventures
Atari Karts
Cannon Fodder
Brutal Sports Football
Missile Command 3D
Hover Strike
I-War
Iron Soldier
Iron Soldier 2 on cart and Cd
Kasumi Ninja
Myst
Hover Strike: Unconquered Lands
Attack of the Mutant Penguins
Baldies
Rayman
Raiden
Evolution: Dino Dudes
Battlemorph
Flashback
Total Carnage
Power Drive Rally
Pinball Fantasies
Blue Lightning
Theme Park
Primal Rage Jag cd
Syndicate
Dragon's Lair
Super Burnout
Dragon The Bruce Lee Story

Also, since Nintegail Grafx-16's on ignore I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume he said both are shit, and possibly that he feels the FDS is waaaaay waaaay betters and stuff, right? Am I close? I heard he followed me in and was trying to troll the 3DO forums for a very short time, so not surprised to see him stalking me in here to shit on the two systems.

Guys never owned either platform, so don't take anything he says seriously, just ignore him. Seriously. Other then dressing in drag (see pic below) and lauding China Warriors gameplay with absurd hyperbole, this is all he knows how to do. Hes just stalking me trying to start shit. Nuthin new for him. Old Hat. Its why hes been banned from almost every game forum hes ever joined.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Amakusa666/nintegadrag.jpg

[buzz_n64]

Go with 3DO. I have both systems, and the 3DO has more games, and better ones. (ppsssttt... it plays back-ups)

[Bojay1997]

I think this is a ridiculous topic. These aren't even similar systems. The 3do and Jaguar were each built for a certain type of games and their respective libraries reflect that fact. They both have great exclusive titles and are both worthy of adding to a collection.

[Ze_ro]

Get both.

--Zero

[nectarsis]

I think this is a ridiculous topic. These aren't even similar systems. The 3do and Jaguar were each built for a certain type of games and their respective libraries reflect that fact. They both have great exclusive titles and are both worthy of adding to a collection.

Yet some people may only WANT one..and these are their choices, hardly a ridiculous topic. Personally I've scaled back my collection size, and would understand someone not wanting BOTH systems (room wise, 2 libraries of games to worry about, etc.).

[ryborg]

Also, since Nintegail Grafx-16's on ignore I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume he said both are shit, and possibly that he feels the FDS is waaaaay waaaay betters and stuff, right? Am I close? I heard he followed me in and was trying to troll the 3DO forums for a very short time, so not surprised to see him stalking me in here to shit on the two systems.

Guys never owned either platform, so don't take anything he says seriously, just ignore him. Seriously. Other then dressing in drag (see pic below) and lauding China Warriors gameplay with absurd hyperbole, this is all he knows how to do. Hes just stalking me trying to start shit. Nuthin new for him. Old Hat. Its why hes been banned from almost every game forum hes ever joined.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Amakusa666/nintegadrag.jpg

what is this garbage? who cares??

both systems have good games; I prefer the 3DO by a wide margin

[The 1 2 P]

But The Jaguar and 3DO are rarely seen in the wild

I find atleast two 3DO's in the wild every year and have found upwards of 5 in a single year. But I hardly ever see the Jaguar. If you were only going to pick one I'd suggest the 3DO. Not only does it have better games but it's also region free so you can play even more games once you add in the Japanese library.

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

The 3do and Jaguar were each built for a certain type of games and their respective libraries reflect that fact. They both have great exclusive titles and are both worthy of adding to a collection.

Thats a bit true. Both pretty much have games of a different style and feel and the two systems are vastly different on the graphics side. If you could actually afford to collect for both it may be worth it. Worse comes to worse, both maintain high resell values so someone could always sell off what they didn't want.

[UnpluggedClone]

Google 4 Gaga

[tom]

This is like asking which pile of dung smells worse. LOL

Seriously I think 3DO is a slightly better system due to the fact it has Samurai Shodown and Super SFII Turbo but then again the handfull of good games for it can easily be found on better systems.

How many Jaguar and 3DO games have you owned/played to come to this conclusion?

BTW, dung is an awsome material, ask any member of the Indian family, so I wouldn't LOL about it.

[Richter Belmount]

Commodore64

[tom]

Commodore64

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[Greg2600]

There are many systems I'd choose before the 3DO or Jaguar, was not a fan of either. Jag controllers suck, and 3DO consoles have questionable reliability. I believe almost everything 3DO is much more expensive than the Jaguar? That all said, while I am an Atari fan, the 3DO library is far superior, even though many of its games are available on PC or PSX (which is why I'd never bother getting one). I myself would go and get a Turbo Grafx, Saturn, Master System, Intellivision, Gamecube, Astrocade, and a Lynx, all of which I do not have, before even considering either of those two.

[swlovinist]

Going for either system does depend on WHY you would want the system in your collection. The 3DO FZ-1 is actually very reliable, and has some decent games. I am not a fan of the controller, but as a an early 3D console, it has some decent games. The jaguar has some great console exclusive games as well, but will probably cost you more in the long run. My vote between the two is the 3DO, due to having more games I would actually play.

[megasdkirby]

Apple ][

Game.com :D

I always wanted a 3D0, but could never get one. :(

I like to collect for the Jaguar. Every now and then I pick up titles I don't have, hoping one day I can have a complete US set. That would be awesome. :)

[Kevincal]

3DO has a lot more games but most are shit. As few games as the Jag has, it has a better ratio of good to shit games than the 3DO. It also looks cooler, cart games = no loading, controller is better. Has a very active fanbase still today, moreso than 3DO. 3DO may technically have more good games, but nearly all of them can be had on the PlayStation. I just like the Jag better. :) I do think the 3DO is cool too though, I had one and almost 100 games but have been selling it off bit by bit. If I could afford it I would own / collect for both. Wish I knew how to burn games lol... :P Definite plus of the 3DO there...

[The 1 2 P]

controller is better.

You actually like that phone-dial-looking tablet more than the 3DO controller?

[Kevincal]

The 3do's d pad is atrocious and the controller is just not comfortable to hold. The Jag controller is super comfortable to hold and has a better d-pad and a lot more buttons. Those phone dial buttons are actually very useful once you learn how to use them. ;)

[todesengel]

I always felt that both the Jaguar and the 3DO had terrible D-pad's. The D-pad on the Jaguar is really the only uncomfortable aspect of that controller for me. Didn't the 3DO have some 3rd party controllers as a substitute for the standard one's? I could've sworn I say a 3rd party pad that looked exactly like an SNES controller for the 3DO at one point.

[Steve W]

The Jaguar has some really good games, and the fact that it's not looked upon all that kindly might help you find cheap games for one. The 3DO is an interesting system, but I haven't found all that many really great games on it. Probably due to the fact that I've only started collecting games for it in the past couple years, and only ones I find in the wild. Whereas I've been a Jaguar supporter since before launch (Dallas was one of the early test markets).

I personally prefer the Jaguar's controller to the 3DO's, although I have a good Logitech one that's pretty nice. And I tend to come across 3DO consoles more often than Jaguars. I can name several stores in the area that have 3DOs for sale, but I don't know any stores that have a Jag.

[le geek]

Honestly, both are an acquired taste.

I have owned both and have kept my Jag and enjoy it, but i also enjoyed playing the 3DO.

Really though... you should get a CDi!

[tom]

But remember with Jaguar you gotta buy 2 systems, Jaguar AND CD add-on, 3DO is just a CD unit.

[j_factor]

But remember with Jaguar you gotta buy 2 systems, Jaguar AND CD add-on, 3DO is just a CD unit.

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say "you gotta buy" a Jaguar CD.

[The 1 2 P]

I could've sworn I say a 3rd party pad that looked exactly like an SNES controller for the 3DO at one point.

You did. There are several 3rd party 3DO controllers and some of them were modeled after the Snes pad.


This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say "you gotta buy" a Jaguar CD.

Maybe he wa held at gunpoint.

[acem77]

Id go with the CDI , j/k

well if i had to have one or the other.....its almost a tie

it is tricky most good 3do games ended up on other systems like psx or saturn or pc..

but tha jag had a lot of games with no other versions.

3do still gets the edge can do a little more with it.

[tom]

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say "you gotta buy" a Jaguar CD.

Yes you must

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

The Jag cd does have a few really nice games. If you want to be able to show the Jag off in full glory, or enjoy all the good it offered, getting a Jag CD is a good idea. If your fine with playing Hover Strike and Cybermorph carts instead of the Cd releases, then don't bother. I got to say though, the cd releases are a lot better, and Blue Lightning is a lot of fun. Jag Cd systems can be finicky though, and some of the disc had defects. The plus is that there isn't a lot on it, so you can get all the titles fast if you have the cash and look in the right places.

[acem77]

battlemorph is one of my fav games of all time.

[Nintega Grafx-16]

Is there any decent Jaguar games besides Rayman and Tempest 2000?

[Steve W]

Is there any decent Jaguar games besides Rayman and Tempest 2000?

Alien vs. Predator, Missile Command 3D, I-War (Tron-style tank game), Zero 5, Super Burnout, Atari Karts, Iron Soldier, and Hover Strike (as long as you accept that your hovercraft doesn't move like a car) on cartridge and Battlemorph and Highlander on Jag CD are all good games.

[ShinobiMan]

I've always preferred the Jag over 3DO. Atari as a brand just always appealed to me more, and it was always a gamers machine from the beginning... whereas the 3DO was all about it's MULTIMEDIA capabilities.

Give me Alien VS. Predator and Iron Soldier any day of the week.

[j_factor]

Yes you must

...increase my bust? :hmm:

[UnpluggedClone]

Google 4 Gaga

[tom]

Is there any decent Jaguar games besides Rayman and Tempest 2000?

Cybermorph
Hover Strike
Battlemorph
Iron Soldier
Flip Out!
Zool 2
Baldies
Space Ace
Val d'Isere
Ruiner Pinball
Flashback
Syndicate
Dragons Lair
Skyhammer
Protector
Zoop
World Tour Racing
Cannon Fodder
Theme Park
Gorf
Pitfall
AvP
NBA
Worms
Hyper Force
Doom
out of a approx total library of just 70 titles, that's 1/3rd good titles, name any other system whcih can claim this. There isn't one.

And yes, the Jaguar pad is extremly comfortable to hold when compared to Japan-style joypads, which are very uncomfortable even after a few hours.

[tom]

...increase my bust? :hmm:

Did it work?

[Oldskool]

The 3DO - it has Plumbers Don't Wear Ties.

In all honesty though, I love my 3DO. It's not as expensive to collect for as you may think. Most of the games can be had for under $10. The consoles are very reliable despite what people have said, trust me, I am on my 3rd 3DO now (FZ-1), and I have NEVER had an issue with any of them (another FZ-1 and an FZ-10).

If you stick to the Panasonic models you are usually safe. And really, the games are pretty good despite what people say.

[josekortez]

Then my friends moms boyfriend bought my friend a 3DO (most likely so he could bang my friends mom) but the system didn't have any games so we would just sit there and play the demo disc over and over just amazed we were playing a 700 dollar gaming machine.

Wow, your friend's mom must have been really hot.

[T2KFreeker]

So, what has everyone learned here? Seems that I am glad that there are at least some fans out there of both of these systems. I can say that the Jaguar edges out the 3DO though. There are more fun games on the Jaguar and games are still releasing for it too. And no, they are not all releasing on the CD system only either. Real cart releases like the earlier released Mad Bodies.

[The 1 2 P]

I still have not picked up a Jaguar, mainly because I've never seen one in the wild before. On the other hand, 3DO's grow on trees around here.

[frap]

battlemorph is one of my fav games of all time.

Please explain. I'm trying to wrap my head around how this is possible and I genuinely want to understand.

-frap

[tom]

I just sold my Jaguar and 3DO collection, so there.

[bitrate]

I can say that the Jaguar edges out the 3DO though. There are more fun games on the Jaguar...


This is a fairly subjective proclamation.



...and games are still releasing for it too.



Both 512-bit private keys for 3DO file signatures have been successfully factored recently, so homebrew and new releases for the 3DO should be around the corner.

[T2KFreeker]

Cool then. I'm all for homebrew on the 3DO as I do also enjoy that system as well. I personally do like the Jaguar more though. Both systems are awesome though for different reasons.

[bangtango]

I gotta agree with Steve W and tom. Jaguar is the way to go. I owned both systems for several years and played the Jaguar a lot more often.

I thought the Jaguar had a better library. tom has already listed plenty of good games. Not to mention two other advantages I think Jaguar has over the 3DO.

1. The console is more durable. At least from my gaming experience. Plenty of 3DO's have already crapped out, particularly the "cheaper" models like Goldstar.

2. Saving your progress in a game is a heck of a lot easier on the Jaguar. Right to the cart. None of this cheesy memory manager stuff like you see on the 3DO.

3DO was just a watered down beta-Playstation 1 as far as I'm concerned.

[danny_galaga]

3DO. I bought one at launch, and loved the few games I had....Wing Commander, Total Eclipse, Crash n' Burn, Monster Manor, etc.

The Jaguar is definitely next on the list though.

LOL

Cool thing about the jag, is there are a number of places where you can buy them brand new. Including pretty much all the games. Both are rare in Australia, although I believe 3DO at least was actually sold here, unlike the Jag. A friend had a 3DO, but i never got to try it out. I like the Jag controller, it is a pretty ergonomic design. The keypad isn't needed for many games, but is damn useful in AVP (and I assume Doom, which I haven't got). You want MAP? Hit the MAP key! Change weapon? Hit the relevant key! None of this scrolling through menus business. None of this helps with 3DO of course. Just that I dig the Jag so I had to chime it (",)

[Chauncy Talon]

Jag had some nice games on it, but 3DO had the world. 3DO was sponsored by EA. Atari had Rayman, AvP (the good version), a few other. I bought my Jag for $20 at Kaybee Toy store the year they discounted the system. I wish I still had the mofo. :-(