View Full Version : So my PS3 "died" (YLOD madness)
So there I was playing Rise of the Agronauts, when the game freezes and my PS3 turns off. I have a what the fuck moment and then I turn it back on, only to hear it beep and go back to sleep. Man this really sucks, I'm going back to school in the next week to take a course and well I was planning on going through my backlog since going out wouldn't be an option for a while. Now this happens, damn it all man.
So before I call Sony, or try to do one of those repair jobs, anyone know of any kind of simple troubleshooting I should do?
kupomogli
03-27-2010, 09:35 PM
I heard that not always will a PS3 die with the YLOD. I've heard that it's overheating and it turns off as a safety precaution. Maybe leave it off for 24 hours and try it again?
Other than that. Sorry. That sucks. I'd try calling Sony.
Tron 2.0
03-27-2010, 11:28 PM
If your PS3 is not under a warranty expect to pay $149.00+ for them to fix it.Other then that,try to e-mail them or call them but there help line is useless any ways.At the most calling it they will just direct you to there website any ways :p
norkusa
03-27-2010, 11:41 PM
Strange. I've been seeing a lot of posts lately from people that had their PS3's die on them. Was this a 20/60GB model?
BHvrd
03-27-2010, 11:48 PM
Strange. I've been seeing a lot of posts lately from people that had their PS3's die on them. Was this a 20/60GB model?
I'm also curious what model it is. Majority seems to be 60 GB though.
Mine "60 GB" got YLOD about a year ago to date and i've fixed it twice since, the fix isn't recommended for every ps3 owner though as it involves taking it apart and baking it in the oven for 8-10 minutes at 425 degrees "properly prepared" and yeah it has been working for a year.
I now keep the top off with fan blowing on power supply as it is the culprit and breaks down the solder in the motherboard around the cpu/gpu. Still looking into making the power supply external.
megasdkirby
03-27-2010, 11:52 PM
Mine "60 GB" got YLOD about a year ago to date and i've fixed it twice since, the fix isn't recommended for every ps3 owner though as it involves taking it apart and baking it in the oven for 8-10 minutes at 425 degrees "properly prepared" and yeah it has been working for a year.
I use the heatgun method, though I will now use the same method but using flux as well. Heard it is infinitely better than simply placing heat on it.
Haven't done it to my console, but I have on my friends.
kupomogli
03-27-2010, 11:57 PM
http://playstationlifestyle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2376
Typing YLOD on Google came up with that.
Strange. I've been seeing a lot of posts lately from people that had their PS3's die on them. Was this a 20/60GB model?
I have a BC 80gig and it wasn't having any of the "symptoms" that I've been reading about. Not sure if I want to take the thing apart, but then again I can't really afford to fork over $150+ to get it repaired, it makes more sense to just buy a slim model instead. There's also the game that's stuck in there...man this is frustrating.
The 1 2 P
03-28-2010, 12:21 AM
That sucks. I hate reading about gamers having to deal with dead systems. If you do buy a slim to replace it, keep in mind that you can probably sell your current PS3 on ebay or craigs list for either parts or to somebody who has experience repairing broken units. That way you'll have some money to put towards your new model.
I was considering doing that, I actually wanted to do that a month ago or so, but chose not to. I've been playing PS2 games a lot lately, so it'll suck not having BC anymore, since some games were upscaled really nicely.
So anyone have any experience with sending their PS3 to Sony? If I choose to go that route, I'd like to know what I'm getting myself into.
kupomogli
03-28-2010, 12:42 AM
If you own a BC and are getting another PS3 I'd recommend doing whatever you can to keep it. You already know they're hard to come by.
Also, the thing you mentioned about the upscaling. Not a graphics whore, but after playing a game SD on my HDTV, 1080p upscaling is a major plus to me. SD on HD looks like ass. Also, games like DBZ Budokai 3, Tenkaichi 3, Castlevania Lament of Innocence, Resident Evil 4, etc, look MUCH better than a lot of PS3 games when upscaled to 1080p. Pretty much every other game looks amazing when upscaled period. Even the worst looking PS2 games look fairly good when upscaled.
megasdkirby
03-28-2010, 01:29 AM
Also, the thing you mentioned about the upscaling. Not a graphics whore, but after playing a game SD on my HDTV, 1080p upscaling is a major plus to me. SD on HD looks like ass.
This is why I now use my Wii for GameCube games. Playing the GameCube on the LCD I have, even if I use S-Video, gives me massive headaches and everything looks quite terrible and dark. A perfect example was "Dead to Rights" in which I could barely see anything on the second level. I placed the game on the Wii, using Component cables and on 480i, and it looked infinitely better and CLEARER than on the GameCube. I now use my LCD TV's exclusively with equipment with better connections, otherwise I will continue to get massive headaches.
Tron 2.0
03-28-2010, 04:19 AM
I was considering doing that, I actually wanted to do that a month ago or so, but chose not to. I've been playing PS2 games a lot lately, so it'll suck not having BC anymore, since some games were upscaled really nicely.
So anyone have any experience with sending their PS3 to Sony? If I choose to go that route, I'd like to know what I'm getting myself into.
I've done it when my (60GB) broke down back in feb i just went to sony website.All you do is a filled out a form there and state what the problem is.Then wait for sony to send you a box to shipped it in from ups.Afther that it's just a matter of waiting then,now it took sony about a week to fix mine.Then the following week i got it back quickly since it was shipped express and so far it runs fine.
Btw last i checked sony still has it's trade in offer for a slim and...you pay $119.00 for the difference
Still i stuck with the (60GB) since i like having that bc for PS2 games.
I might call a buddy of mine up later and see if he still has his PS3 he got with his TV, he's going to give me shit since a few of us would have a console war to pass the time at work and he was only 360 owner, but maybe he'll let me get his slim for $150.
Btw last i checked sony still has it's trade in offer for a slim and...you pay $119.00 for the difference
That's out of the question, especially since I could sell my 80gig for more than that, broken or not.
SD on HD looks like ass.
Playing the GameCube on the LCD I have, even if I use S-Video, gives me massive headaches and everything looks quite terrible and dark.
You know I keep on hearing this, but in my case it's very untrue. I know some HDTVs make the games look horrible, I experienced this first hand when playing anything on my old JVC and I remember how everything looked watered down using anything below S-Video. My Samsung on the other hand displays them all prefectly, even playing my NES using RF looks fine and throwing on 120hz helps smooth things out when playing my Dreamcast and Gamecube. Only problem I've had so far is the buzzing noise that comes and goes when playing my Gamecube using the Component cables.
zektor
03-31-2010, 03:37 AM
That's out of the question, especially since I could sell my 80gig for more than that, broken or not.
Well, you'd have to get $299 (plus tax) for that broken 80GB to cover a new slim. On the otherhand, trading in your broken 80GB with $120 for a new slim would be a much better option in my eyes.....unless you can get that $150 unit from your friend and keep your 80GB of course.
BTW: Talking about the Gamecube - I used to use the component cables with the unit (the first gen Gamecubes which allowed it) and it looked just as good as the Wii hooked up component on my HDTV.
Well, you'd have to get $299 (plus tax) for that broken 80GB to cover a new slim. On the otherhand, trading in your broken 80GB with $120 for a new slim would be a much better option in my eyes.....unless you can get that $150 unit from your friend and keep your 80GB of course.
Well I can get a discount off a new PS3 at work, plus a 2 extended year warranty, which seems to be the wise thing to do on consoles now. From what I've read, when you trade it in to Sony they only give you a 90day warranty for the Slim, which is complete BS.
drummy
03-31-2010, 08:17 PM
Does anyone know of Slims getting the YLOD yet?
DuckTalesNES
03-31-2010, 09:32 PM
Well I can get a discount off a new PS3 at work, plus a 2 extended year warranty, which seems to be the wise thing to do on consoles now. From what I've read, when you trade it in to Sony they only give you a 90day warranty for the Slim, which is complete BS.
I can confirm the 90 day warranty BS. I actually called them out on this over the phone and they gave me some ridiculous line that the trade in is not for a complete console, just the game unit so it has a different warranty. Unbelievable shit.
megasdkirby
03-31-2010, 10:17 PM
exit,
Did you manage to get your console repaired yet? I would just do the heat gun/oven repair. It DOES work, as I tried it (heat gun). Also read you can increase the survival length of the repair by a few extra months by adding something, but I forgot what in particular. Flux was it?
exit,
Did you manage to get your console repaired yet? I would just do the heat gun/oven repair. It DOES work, as I tried it (heat gun). Also read you can increase the survival length of the repair by a few extra months by adding something, but I forgot what in particular. Flux was it?
I am going to do the heat gun repair, eventually that is. I've done quite a bit of research and I've heard to use Arctic Silver 5, haven't even heard anyone mention using liquid flux tho. I'll probably attempt to fix my PS3 next week with a buddy of mine, I still need to find the Arctic Silver anyway, I'll be sure to keep you guys posted tho.
I called my buddy up and he had already sold his PS3, so I'm just going to get a new one whenever my store gets the 120gb model in and of course I'm picking up the warranty this time. If I do successfully fix my PS3, I might decided to fix PS3's on the side and offer my services for a small price to people who are scared to do it themselves. Of course I won't charge anything ridiculous, probably about $50, which is about how much it costs to get all the materials you need.
edit: I did a little Googling and saw a thread where someone asked about using liquid flux, but the topic was from sometime last year and things have advanced since then.
I can confirm the 90 day warranty BS. I actually called them out on this over the phone and they gave me some ridiculous line that the trade in is not for a complete console, just the game unit so it has a different warranty. Unbelievable shit.
Not for a completely console? But the unit is the console.....that really makes no sense.
megasdkirby
04-01-2010, 08:05 AM
If I do successfully fix my PS3, I might decided to fix PS3's on the side and offer my services for a small price to people who are scared to do it themselves. Of course I won't charge anything ridiculous, probably about $50, which is about how much it costs to get all the materials you need.
Careful. Although I do the same (only charge like $25 for the repair), you need to tell the customer that this is only a temporary repair, as the likelihood of getting an RROD is certain at some time in the future. The repair can last months, years, even days, but it WILL eventually RROD once more. It just depends on several conditions, like usage, temperature, etc.
I would let the customer know this, because any RROD repair is not permanent. But hey, it's better than charging over $100 for the same thing from a repair shop.
Careful. Although I do the same (only charge like $25 for the repair), you need to tell the customer that this is only a temporary repair, as the likelihood of getting an RROD is certain at some time in the future. The repair can last months, years, even days, but it WILL eventually RROD once more. It just depends on several conditions, like usage, temperature, etc.
I would let the customer know this, because any RROD repair is not permanent. But hey, it's better than charging over $100 for the same thing from a repair shop.
Of course I'm going to have an "at your own risk" disclaimer printed out for them to sign, stating that I am not responsible if something happens to their PS3. I'll let them know that it's a temporary fix that basically gives them enough time to transfer everything to a new console and tell them the usual tips like let it breath and make sure to upkeep it. On a case by case scenario, I'll also let them help me do it if they choose, that way they can fix it their self if it happens again.
Again this is just an idea I'm having, first I have to fix mine and then go on from there.
gepeto
04-01-2010, 04:33 PM
So if you buy a slim and backup your old ps3 will your downloaded demos copy over?
So if you buy a slim and backup your old ps3 will your downloaded demos copy over?
If you copy from one PS3 to another PS3 via ethernet cable, then everything is copied over including locked saves. It was added in one of the recent updates and while it's still BS that your own save files are even locked, it's better than nothing.
Frankie_Says_Relax
04-01-2010, 07:51 PM
If you copy from one PS3 to another PS3 via ethernet cable, then everything is copied over including locked saves. It was added in one of the recent updates and while it's still BS that your own save files are even locked, it's better than nothing.
OOH, I didn't know that the system to system transfer allowed for locked saves to go with. Good to know, but yeah, they need to get rid of locked saves ... I mean, it would be reasonable if they were tied to your PSN ID but locking them is just silly.
gepeto
04-01-2010, 08:15 PM
I bought a slim today I was preparing for the transfer and it said I need a system update 60gb fat even though mine was 315. I read the info fine print in the 321 update and it says that the update will remove the other os installations options preventing linix and such installations. If you refuse you can't login to the psn. That sucks
I am trapped I cant deactivate the ps3 system because I have to log into the network which requires the update.
gepeto
04-01-2010, 09:01 PM
Go to customize your network settings from XMB, and get to the part about DNS nameservers. Select custom, and enter the following IP as your Primary DNS:
67.202.81.137
Boom!, PSstore, PSN/online gaming and Home work perfectly. Video on demand doesn't but that's all, and Install other OS still works perfectly.
Jacked form gamefaq this got me in.
Flibbith
04-04-2010, 10:35 PM
anyone know if Sony still does the trade-in for a slim?
Tron 2.0
04-04-2010, 11:02 PM
anyone know if Sony still does the trade-in for a slim?
Last i checked at there website they were a few months back.
Well I picked up a Slim today and a buddy attempted to fix my 80g, sadly it didn't go very well. He had fun doing it tho and we were playing Donkey Kong Country with his girlfriend, whom never played the game before (as well as Super Mario World, which she completely sucked at, thus me changing it to DKC), so it wasn't a complete waste of time. I'll end up sending it to Sony, have them send me a refurb and then sell it, I'd rather not go through this headache again.
megasdkirby
04-14-2010, 09:16 AM
What happened? It's probably an easy fix, like insufficient thermal paste. Also, would Sony repair a console once it's opened? Even if paid for?
What happened? It's probably an easy fix, like insufficient thermal paste. Also, would Sony repair a console once it's opened? Even if paid for?
nah he put enough thermal paste, I think we just didn't heat it long enough, but he protests and is convinced everything went fine. From what I read on other boards, Sony will still take it even if it's been opened, since the warranty has long been voided anyway. I might take another go at it, but I'm not sure if it's worth it just to save a few saves anymore.
edit: Well I'm ready to say fuck Sony at this point, apparently I can't deactivate my Playstation unless I send it to them for whatever reason and get it repaired. They kept on saying that I have 4 open slots and that the only thing they can deactivate are the videos. What grinds my gear is that one of the techs earlier said they could do it with no problem, then the girl after said they couldn't do anything and kept on changing the script every time I mentioned how their website says differently. Then her supervisor kept on running me in circles, to the point where I just lost it on the poor guy and hung up.
If it wasn't for the girl I talked to,I probably wouldn't have lost it, but she was saying stupid shit like "Well you decided to buy a new PS3 instead" and it was just poor customer service all together. I think I might be done with Sony after this generation, I've been a long time supporter, but they obviously have some serious flaws in their policies that I've never noticed and this particular one is just bullshit.
Frankie_Says_Relax
04-06-2011, 11:33 PM
*sigh* joined the club tonight.
My launch day 60 Gig unit just gave up the ghost.
Oh well, a good excuse to pick up a slim with a nice big HDD for all my PS3 gaming needs.
I'll send my 60 Gig to Sony for repairs. Hopefully I'll get a BC unit back. If I do I'll put it into storage. If not, I'll use it as a WiFi Netflix box for my bedroom.
LaughingMAN.S9
04-07-2011, 12:41 AM
^^^if you send in a 60gig you'll get a 60gig back, but repairs through sony will run you about 180-ish, i 4get the exact number because i've had to send mine in after my initial 90 day limited warranty expired the 1st time my 60 ylod'd
but if youre in the market for a slim, when you call in, theyll offer to replace your 60 with a NEW slim for something like $120-130...supposedly
i say supposedly because even tho i was told "new" by the customer service rep over the phone, i think i heard somewhere its a refurb, anyway your call
retroman
04-07-2011, 02:05 AM
Could be the hard drive took a shit on ya
*sigh* joined the club tonight.
My launch day 60 Gig unit just gave up the ghost.
Oh well, a good excuse to pick up a slim with a nice big HDD for all my PS3 gaming needs.
I'll send my 60 Gig to Sony for repairs. Hopefully I'll get a BC unit back. If I do I'll put it into storage. If not, I'll use it as a WiFi Netflix box for my bedroom.
Can't believe it's been a year since my BC died. I still have it sitting in my closet, had to literally break open the BR drive to get the game that was stuck out. Although I do miss the BC sometimes, I'm very happy with the slim model now, I really don't miss my gaming console sounding like a jet that's about to take off when it gets a little hot because of the loud ass fans.
It's always sad to hear when another bites the dust, it seems that the BC models are just ticking time bombs and it still irks me that Sony never really fessed up to say that this was a defect. Oh well in a few years you could probably sell your refurb for a decent price and get a nice little profit out of it.
heybtbm
04-07-2011, 10:59 AM
This thread is a little distressing. I haven't had any trouble with my launch 60gig...then again it's only been turned on a total of 150-200 hours or so in the last 4+ years.
Actually, I'm just waiting for that inevitable firmware update that finally bricks all the remaining BC launch units.
Frankie_Says_Relax
04-07-2011, 11:07 AM
S'all good.
5+ years of flawless operation ain't shabby for a 1st gen/launch day model of a modern console IMO.
Compared to the number of 360s I've owned during that time, I can deal with it.
I've already got a repair scenario set up with Sony and they've confirmed that I'll be getting a 60 Gig PS2 BC unit back. (As it was stated above, currently they only do model-for-model repairs, which is nice to know if you have a BC unit.)
Cornelius
04-07-2011, 01:02 PM
Out of fear that my 60 would die at some unknown date, I opened her up and applied some name-brand thermal compound. I haven't actually used it a lot lately since I've been playing a couple Wii games, but it does seem like it isn't getting as loud now.
The 1 2 P
04-07-2011, 07:25 PM
it seems that the BC models are just ticking time bombs and it still irks me that Sony never really fessed up to say that this was a defect.
Sony also never fessed up to the original PS1's overheating issues and the PS2's disc read error. Maybe they think it was the customers fault.
I originally wanted the 160 gig fat PS3 bundle because it came with Uncharted. But after that whole January 2010 issue that older PS3's had I'm glad that I waited to get a slim instead.