Do a SNES 2 and SNES use the same hookups?

[Urzu402]

because I just won an SNES 2 on Ebay for 21.50 and 10 dollar shipping so I need to know this. also does this one look fake to you

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2889/snes2.jpg

[Aussie2B]

Yes. And no, it doesn't look fake. What make you think there were SNES model 2 knock-offs out there? That controller is third party, though.

[Urzu402]

because of this

http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=counterfeit_snes

[BetaWolf47]

Yes. And no, it doesn't look fake. What make you think there were SNES model 2 knock-offs out there?
It's pretty common knowledge.
http://www.gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=counterfeit_snes

Can someone link to the image of the auction? ebay keeps redirecting me to "recommendations", as the bidding has ended.

[Urzu402]

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2889/snes2.jpg

thats the image rehosted I asked for more pics though

[BetaWolf47]

Man, they provided a pretty low-res picture.

From what I can tell, it's real. Fake ones are shinier and thus would have more glare from a camera flash than that. Controller ports appear dark like the real ones.

[Urzu402]

This might not be the fourm to ask but is there anything I can do to clean that marker off of it? When i get it.

[BetaWolf47]

Most people recommend just using rubbing alcohol. Pretty basic solution and probably not the best either.

[Urzu402]

I have tried rubbing alcohol on a game and it didnt work to get marker off.

[MarioMania]

Now there SNES 2 fakes going around now..

or Nintendo revised the Motherboard

[whoisKeel]

This might not be the fourm to ask but is there anything I can do to clean that marker off of it? When i get it.

Some people claim to have luck with Magic Eraser, but I think paint thinner works best. I get the stuff for plastic models (Testor's). Don't use it on color stuff (boxes, discs, stickers)

[sixwayshot]

I use a few different things to get marker off of my games:

- Mr. Clean Magic Erasers work great. This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine_foam) product is, essentially, a sponge with really find sandpaper-ish like material on one side. Wet the Magic Eraser, and scrub the marked area.

- Goo Gone works well in conjunction with the Magic Eraser. Take a cotton swab and soak one end in Goo Gone (I have a spray bottle of it. One or two sprays should be enough) and coat the marked area slightly with the Goo Gone solution. Then scrub the area with the Magic Eraser.

If it doesn't get the marker off completely, it'll be gone enough for you to not notice it.

[Urzu402]

Also I don't think the person who is selling it knows too much, because they have an RF switch and the SNES 2 doesnt support RF out....

[Aussie2B]

Huh, well I'll be damned. Learn something new everyday. Damn bootleggers giving us something new to look out for. :/ When were the bootlegs made and how prevalent are they? Were they made for sale in a different country or were they pirated specifically for the US market?

[Kamille01]

A side note: the SNES 2 doesn't support s-video. Just felt like throwing that in there in case someone doesn't know.

[aclbandit]

Also I don't think the person who is selling it knows too much, because they have an RF switch and the SNES 2 doesnt support RF out....

Actually, it does with a little adapter thingy. I have (had?) one, but I don't have a clue where it actually came from. Just found it in the back of my SNES2 I picked up at a flea market.

[Eyedunno]

That controller is third party, though.
Wut.

It looks like a first-party PAL controller to me, unless I'm missing something.

[Oobgarm]

Wut.

It looks like a first-party PAL controller to me, unless I'm missing something.

Logo on the controller doesn't look right; it's missing the "button" part of the logo, to the left of the name.

[BetaWolf47]

Actually, it does with a little adapter thingy. I have (had?) one, but I don't have a clue where it actually came from. Just found it in the back of my SNES2 I picked up at a flea market.

Oh, I forgot about that. This came with the first-party N64/Gamecube RF adapter.
http://www.tietokonemuseo.net/koneita/pics/n64rfswitch.JPG
http://www.videogamesplus.ca/images/GC_RFnintendo.jpg

Interesting to note that the Gamecube RF adapter is the same as the NES one, just with the little dongle.

[Eyedunno]

Logo on the controller doesn't look right; it's missing the "button" part of the logo, to the left of the name.
I'll be damned; didn't notice that...

[Shadow Kisuragi]

Yeah, that's actually a very common 3rd party controller. I have a couple at home - I could pull up the name of the controller if you'd like.

Congrats on the grab there. The marker should come off easily, but make sure whatever you use is plastic safe.

[BetaWolf47]

Also be warned about using the magic eraser. It's something I personally wouldn't use, because some people say it can wipe the finish off of the plastic.

Also, congrats on the find, Urzu!

[old_skoolin_jim]

As an owner of the SNES2 since 1998, it looks real. But the RF switch won't work without an adaptor, so hopefully you have some a/v cables- there's no S-Video output either.
Nice buy, though! Nice to see people selling an SNES at a reasonable price.

[Urzu402]

Should I use this to replace my old SNES and put my old SNES into storage, also it doesnt work well with Game Genie does it?

[BetaWolf47]

Whether you want to use this or your original SNES, that rests on if you have an s-video cable or not. If you have an s-video cable for SNES/N64/Gamecube, you may want to stick with the original. However, if you don't, I heard the basic composite output on SNES2 is better.

[Urzu402]

Well I dont have S-Video I use just normal Composite, also what about what I asked about the Game Genie

[Shadow Kisuragi]

It depends on the revision of the Game Genie and SNES, but most likely you won't be able to use a Game Genie on it. There's a thread floating around here detailing which revisions of the SNES work with which reivsions of the Game Genie.

[Urzu402]

I have 2 Game Genies one is an older model adds the dashes before typing in the codes, the second is a newer one that adds the dashes as you type in the codes. From what I can gather is that only the first and last lines will work on an SNES mini is this accurate?

[Aussie2B]

Wut.

It looks like a first-party PAL controller to me, unless I'm missing something.

Well, even ignoring the logo issue, what are the odds that the average American would end up with a PAL controller?

[BetaWolf47]

Not to mention that the Y and A buttons are the wrong color.

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3336/compar.jpg

[Ryaan1234]

As an owner of the SNES2 since 1998, it looks real. But the RF switch won't work without an adaptor, so hopefully you have some a/v cables- there's no S-Video output either.
What?

I have one of those 3rd party multi input cables. The one that has a Gamecube/SNES/N64, PS1/2/3, and original Xbox input on one end and composite A/V, audio, and S-video output on the other. I hooked up my SNES mini to it and then the S-video and audio to my TV and it works fine.

So do you guys mean that Urzu needs a proper S-video cable to get S-video out or do you mean that the SNES mini doesn't output S-video? Because mine outputs it fine. I was playing Kirby Super Star the other day :D

[BetaWolf47]

So do you guys mean that Urzu needs a proper S-video cable to get S-video out or do you mean that the SNES mini doesn't output S-video? Because mine outputs it fine. I was playing Kirby Super Star the other day :D
Unplug the yellow video cable and see if it still works.

[Ryaan1234]

Unplug the yellow video cable and see if it still works.
I never had the yellow video cable plugged in, just S-video and audio. That doesn't make sense anyway because at the time my TV was set to accept S-video.

[Peonpiate]

As some others said, there are better options at cleaning off marker marks than rubbing alcohol...But alcohol definately does work. It just requires heaps of time and effort to get it off of most cartridges using it [one game took me a hour].

[Famidrive-16]

I'm pretty sure I've gotten a Game Genie to work on my SNES2 before...

[MarioMania]

No one answered my question..

Did Nintendo revised the SNES2 with a 2 differnt Motherboard??

http://nfggames.com/games/grafx/SNES2PCBS.jpg

[Urzu402]

Yes they changed the motherboard from SNES 1 to SNES 2 but that is obvious, but one of them is fake in that picture so I dont think they changed the motherboard mid run in the SNES 2s.

Also does anyone have a comparison of the sizes of the SNES 1 to SNES 2 maybe like a Youtube video or something.

[BetaWolf47]

SNES vs. SNES Jr. is pretty much the same comparison as DS vs. DS Lite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4WCDqQXHSA
Go to 2:00

<EDIT> This shows it better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLrh7URQvoE
Go to 3:00

[Urzu402]

Thanks for the first video, I had already watched the second one you posted.

[Peonpiate]

Only negative with the Snes 2 and Jr that ive heard, is they lack the port to hook up a S-video cable [or component with the official nintendo cables].

[Eyedunno]

Not to mention that the Y and A buttons are the wrong color.

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3336/compar.jpg
Damn, there's a lot I didn't notice.:embarrassed: Okay, that controller is wack. I can't even change the locations of the buttons in my SFC controllers, IIRC. At least new controllers aren't so hard to come by...

[Urzu402]

ummmm? wtf?

[Eyedunno]

SNES vs. SNES Jr. is pretty much the same comparison as DS vs. DS Lite.

I kinda have mixed feelings. I don't have an SNES 2, but I do have a regular SNES, a Super Famicom, and a Super Famicom Jr. (which cost me 7000 yen, or about $70 at the time, and that's with no hookups or accessories; it's much rarer than an SNES 2).

The SNES is obviously the ugliest of these, but it has basically the same functionality as the regular SFC (though I prefer the all-convex buttons, the eject button, and the reset button of the SFC), which is good, plus you can perform the virtually invisible mod to an SNES to play SFC games (something the reverse of which you'd have to be nuts to do to a SFC).

The SNES 2 and SFC Jr. have the size advantage at the cost of S-video, the LED, and the eject button (not to mention RF, but meh). I haven't really noticed a difference in the quality of composite between my SFC and my SFC Jr. (maybe this only affects SNES and SNES 2), but man, the SNES 2 looks way better on your shelf than the original North American SNES, that's for sure (I'd say it's more of a toss-up between the SFC and SFC Jr., with the former looking somehow more sleek, and the latter somehow looking more cute).

Anyway...


ummmm? wtf?

Not spam. This person just wanted to let everybody know that you can mod your SNES 2 to play Sony Betamax tapes. Maybe.

[Urzu402]

I'm waiting for the person to send me more pictures of the back and underside of the system.

[Urzu402]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6976/snesback.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9986/snesunder.jpg

Does it look real? the picture the person took didn't show the screws so....

[kgenthe]

1. Looks real.

2. Hairspray gets marker off VERY easily.

[Eyedunno]

My SFC Jr. was also rather dirty and included a few spots of magic marker. I mainly used naphtha (Zippo lighter fluid) to clean it up. It's my dominant cleaning fluid for the outside of carts (definitely not the connectors!) too. But yeah, maybe hairspray is even better.

[Urzu402]

I tried hair spray on an NES game that I own with marker on it and it didnt work too well, I could tell the marker was coming off because the q-tip was black but it didn't work too well. what did work well was Axe, is that dangerous to use? It makes your system or game smell lol.

[BetaWolf47]

So you got the system? You should easily be able to tell if it's authentic now. Check the button colors and compare them with the guide on GameSX.

[Enigmus]

Yes they changed the motherboard from SNES 1 to SNES 2 but that is obvious, but one of them is fake in that picture so I dont think they changed the motherboard mid run in the SNES 2s.

Also does anyone have a comparison of the sizes of the SNES 1 to SNES 2 maybe like a Youtube video or something.

I think the one on the right is the fake, due to the brightness of the circuit board that usually isn't seen in anything from before the late 90s. At least, not in my experiences.

[Urzu402]

No I dont have the system yet.

[BetaWolf47]

It's real. Congrats Urzu! Here's the dead giveaway:

http://nfggames.com/games/grafx/SNES2LABELS.jpg

One on the left is real, one on the right is fake. On the fake one, the "Questions and Service" text is too far to the right. The real one is centered, like the one in your picture.

[Urzu402]

Would it be dangerous to spray Axe on it? Also is there anyway to get the Smell off of it?

[Urzu402]

In other news, I just won Super Punch-out for 8 dollars + 4 shipping lol

[Slash]

If you have erasable marker (for whiteboards), trace over the permanent marker with it, then wipe clean. This works for most markers on plastic, but not all. It's the safest way I've found to remove marker. I have ruined some systems with the magic eraser and nail polish remover and other things because they are too abrasive or melt the plastic. You may need to clean it up a bit with rubbing alcohol if it doesn't all come off.

[Urzu402]

This was it before.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1568/snes2lbefore.jpg


This is how it looks now.
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7206/snes2little.jpg

[Eyedunno]

Nice! Just for fun, here's my Super Famicom Jr. in the hand of its previous owner...
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1517/yume1247yumeimg600x4501.jpg
...and today, cleaned up some:
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2980/sfcjrafter.jpg
Note that I got it with nothing but the console, and given its rarity, I thought I'd never see a real SFC Jr. controller. Well, in some sense I still never have, but it turns out the SFC Jr. and SNES 2 used EXACTLY the same controllers aside from the buttons. As further evidence, note both logos:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/379/controller.jpg
So all I had to do was find an SNES 2 controller on eBay (which was still a bit hard, due to the abundance of Majesco controllers and knockoffs) and swap in Super Famicom buttons. Voila!

[rpepper9]

That Is So Fake!!!1!!!!!1!!!

[Eyedunno]

That Is So Fake!!!1!!!!!1!!!
Not sure if you're being ironic, or trolling, or what, but nope. It's the real deal, bought in Japan from a Japanese seller, with crisp lettering in authentic Nintendo fonts on the bottom sticker (Super Famicoms don't have service stickers), and the controller is a real SNS-102, though modified as stated.

The controller thing is pretty interesting. The same model was used for both SNES 2 and SFC Jr., which is odd because the original SNES controller was SNS-005, while the SFC's was SHVC-005, but presumably this is part of how Nintendo cut costs. The mouse was also the same in both regions, but it went beyond the shell and innards in that case - Japan got the ugly purple buttons as well!

More on this:
http://maru-chang.com/hard/shvc/english.htm