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HappehLemons
04-01-2010, 03:02 PM
Splash Hill Zone run

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/sonic-4-splash-hill-zone/342639

Looks okay I suppose.

I don't like the animations at all, they're just not fast. When sonic jumps he goes into such a slow spinball. Sonics non spinball air animation just looks goofy with his arms and legs spread out and overall they just don't looks solid. Gameplay looks good.. but the animations just looks so bad.. I don't see any of this changing either. For some reason they were going for this "look" and I just hate it.

IronBuddha
04-01-2010, 03:30 PM
Not bad, beggars can't be choosers. I agree about the animation but it still looks like what many fans have been waiting for.

chrisbid
04-01-2010, 03:31 PM
i am at work, so i cannot watch the video nor comment on the animation

BUT

the controls are what will make or break this game. if they have the same 'floaty' controls that plague most 2.5D games, then i will pass. tight controls that mimmick the 16-bit sonic games, i will be sold

i cant see goofy animation alone killing this game

RCM
04-01-2010, 03:34 PM
Wait until you see this in HD, it's really pretty. While I'm not totally in love with the animation either, as long as it plays well I'll be happy.

From what I've seen it seems to almost totally ignore the improved tweaks the Sonic series has received over the years, which is a pity. I may be in the minority, but feel the Sonic sections in his 3D titles were mostly fantastic, and the 2D stuff (Advance/Rush series) has kept Sonic in gaming's elite club of AAA franchises.

No, this is NOT Dave Halverson...

deltoidsteep
04-01-2010, 04:37 PM
The walking looks retarded and what's with all the smoke? Makes him look like a jet. Otherwise though, everything looks fantastic. I am looking forward to this

Richter Belmount
04-01-2010, 04:53 PM
He walks weird so it must play like shit!

SpaceHarrier
04-01-2010, 04:54 PM
No, this is NOT Dave Halverson...

This made me smile, but unlike Sonic I don't chuckle.

Zthun
04-01-2010, 06:56 PM
Ugggg...why is there no boost meter like in Rush? Want boost meter.

chrisbid
04-01-2010, 07:05 PM
watched the vid

are his arms moving along with his legs instead of opposed to them? is that the deal? strange...

Richter Belmount
04-01-2010, 07:12 PM
I like how noone realized in the last 10 years thinks that the whole sonic is about speed was nothing but a gimmick. Im pretty sure if sonic was a game focused on platforming it would be a better game , but we got all these whiners who never got over segas sonic is a about speed campaign from the 90s. The games are all about speed now thats why they suck.

Nebagram
04-01-2010, 07:27 PM
I'm liking what I see. It seems to have that feel of 'flow' to it that all the best Sonic games have, where you can chain one move to another to another to get through the level as fast as possible. Reminds me a lot of the advance games, though the proof will be in the playing and nothing else.

Kitsune Sniper
04-01-2010, 07:55 PM
WOW, this looks... bad.

"CG IS THE FUTURE!", Saturn-era bad. (Before companies started to put some actual EFFORT into 3D CG movies.)

The gameplay looks pretty good - a decent mashup of classic Sonic and some elements from Adventure 1 and 2. But that animation and that design look godawful! Why are Sonic's spikes twice the size they usually are? And poofier?

And that music... :(

Therealqtip
04-01-2010, 10:17 PM
Let's stop bitching, at least Sonic Team isn't making another 3D sonic game...yet.

pseudonym
04-01-2010, 10:29 PM
To be honest it looks good to me. Looks like Sonic 3 (or was it Sonic and Knuckles) where you can use that charge attack in mid-air, and seems to concentrate on speed rather than throwing a whole bunch of obstacles in your way. It doesn't look too difficult, there's little in the way of enemies it seems or maybe just because it's an early level. The presentation isn't great looking, but as long as the game play is there...

I would give it a shot when it comes out. I haven't seriously played a Sonic game since SA2 and one of the Game Cube ones, I forget what it's called (probably goes to show how I thought of it. Heh).

Baloo
04-01-2010, 11:10 PM
Wow, the animation looks AWFUL. Really just, terrible.

I also really hope that the game doesn't have floaty controls like every other 2.5D game. That's what made me get bored of New Super Mario Bros. so fast, the control just wasn't there for me like it is in 2D.

Game looks decent though at best, I'm not impressed by this demo at all.

Nintega Grafx-16
04-01-2010, 11:25 PM
LMAO at the wambulance

Seriously people just be happy Sega didn't add guns, cycles, girls with furry fantasies, and "werehogs" in Sonic 4. lol

BetaWolf47
04-02-2010, 12:26 AM
Interesting, is this the first time Sonic has the Homing Attack in a 2D title?

I agree with some people about the complaints. The Genesis titles have not aged well. I even like the 8-Bit and handheld titles better.

otoko
04-02-2010, 12:39 AM
The Genesis titles have not aged well.

We differ here. I still like to play the genesis sonic games often. I think they aged just fine.

TonyTheTiger
04-02-2010, 01:20 AM
If this game comes out and people start complaining that it's too much like the old games I'm going to scream.

Gameguy
04-02-2010, 02:10 AM
If this game comes out and people start complaining that it's too much like the old games I'm going to scream.
That reminds me of a recent comic strip.


http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5642/20100227.jpg

Kitsune Sniper
04-02-2010, 02:17 AM
LMAO at the wambulance

Seriously people just be happy Sega didn't add guns, cycles, girls with furry fantasies, and "werehogs" in Sonic 4. lolYes, because expressing dislike of something in the game is cause for drama, right?

And now that you've mentioned all that crap, it'll be added as DLC.

Also, Gameguy, that picture you posted has broken the crap-o-meter. Sprite comic + sprite edited characters + Sonic fanchars == melty face from Raiders of The Lost Ark.

Richter Belmount
04-02-2010, 02:25 AM
Well most of the complaints are in the topic are pretty retarded , character animation? Arent we supposed to be talking about the gameplay returning to 2d?

Gameguy
04-02-2010, 02:38 AM
Also, Gameguy, that picture you posted has broken the crap-o-meter. Sprite comic + sprite edited characters + Sonic fanchars == melty face from Raiders of The Lost Ark.
It's not my comic, I didn't make it.

zektor
04-02-2010, 02:41 AM
We differ here. I still like to play the genesis sonic games often. I think they aged just fine.

Agreed. As a matter of fact, the Genesis titles have aged much better than many games I know. They still look and play fantastic to me.

Kitsune Sniper
04-02-2010, 03:15 AM
It's not my comic, I didn't make it.

I never said you did. :p I said "the picture you posted."

And I already said this, gameplay looks fine. But that animation really needs to be fixed.

G-Boobie
04-02-2010, 03:23 AM
No Shadow Dat Hedgehog (May his chromed out gats cap bitches for all eternity), no deal.

Seriously, guys. Dimps is making it, and their Sonic track record is better than Sonic Teams, in a case of cosmic level irony. This might be good.

On the other hand, Sonic fans have been burned enough in the last ten years that the Sonic franchise will never overcome the bad juju associated with it, quality game or not. I guess we'll see.

Gameguy
04-02-2010, 03:42 AM
I never said you did. :p I said "the picture you posted."
True, I was just surprised that you were the one who said it. You dislike Sonic fanchars, yet didn't you admit in several threads that you're a furry? Isn't that type of stuff a main point of furry? Isn't it sort of the same thing as your avatar? Not meaning to offend you or anything, just a bit surprised and slightly confused. I just posted that comic because of the content, fans just keep complaining no matter what they get.

And it's really not that bad, compared to other laughably bad/disturbing/face melting images. :puke:


http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8197/159939page00.jpg

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2849/1638042.jpg


:bawling:

baraka
04-02-2010, 03:50 AM
While I dont really have any problems with the animations, the gameplay footage just looks just really boring, not exactly sure why. It probably has something to do with the really really REALLY boring stagedesign.

Also, where's Robotnik at the end of the third stage? No more bosses?

Lord_Magus
04-02-2010, 05:40 AM
I like how noone realized in the last 10 years thinks that the whole sonic is about speed was nothing but a gimmick. Im pretty sure if sonic was a game focused on platforming it would be a better game , but we got all these whiners who never got over segas sonic is a about speed campaign from the 90s. The games are all about speed now thats why they suck.

Thank you, this is the most sensible thing I've read about Sonic games in a while. Sonic was always meant to be "cool" character, and the games never really tried too hard to be great in their own right. I totally respect the first few that came out for the Genesis for trying something fresh and different, but everything from there on *inevitably* went downhill.

There's only so much you can do with a character whose main(only?) quality is moving fast. The best you can do is have levels that are "streamlined" in a way to show off that speed, which makes the gameplay feel very shallow after a few minutes. I've tried and retried the Sonic games many times, yet always after the first level or so I start getting the feeling I've experienced everything they have to offer and completely lose interest :/

Kitsune Sniper
04-02-2010, 09:59 AM
True, I was just surprised that you were the one who said it. You dislike Sonic fanchars, yet didn't you admit in several threads that you're a furry? Isn't that type of stuff a main point of furry? Isn't it sort of the same thing as your avatar? Not meaning to offend you or anything, just a bit surprised and slightly confused. I just posted that comic because of the content, fans just keep complaining no matter what they get.

No offense taken. :)

Keep in mind not all furries are the same, just as not all video game collectors are the same. I just really get bothered by sprite comics. Sonic fan characters are another pet peeve. But that's neither here or there.

Anyway, Sonic's design and animation in this video are just... distracting to the eye. Total eyesore. Even if people keep saying something about waambulances, that's how I feel, and my only complaint. I don't want this game to suck, dammit. :(

chrisbid
04-02-2010, 11:05 AM
Interesting, is this the first time Sonic has the Homing Attack in a 2D title?

I agree with some people about the complaints. The Genesis titles have not aged well. I even like the 8-Bit and handheld titles better.



uhhhhh... no. the games have aged incredibly well. the only drawback has been overexposure. sonic the hedgehog for the genesis has been re-released for nearly every platform known to man since the saturn

LiquidPolicenaut
04-02-2010, 11:37 AM
I think I will agree with many posts and say that this looks meh. I mean, I WANT to like but it looks a little boring right now. The scenery looks very nice, imo, but Sonic ...hmmm...I just don't like him now. His hair looks ridiculous as does most of his animations. I think Sega was definitely trying to do the same as Nintendo was in bringing a 2D version of their mascot back but, I think, in the end, Nintendo succeeded WAY better. I DO miss you, old Sonic :(

grolt
04-02-2010, 12:07 PM
Yeah, the Sonic animations look a little off, but otherwise this looks great. Even shot through the TV, the textures and scenary look really pretty. The animation that jars most is Sonic's jump, though. It looks like he's fearfully falling to his death every time he's hovering in the air. I thought he was supposed to have 'tude. Pussy.

I can't imagine something like basic character animation would be a tough thing to alter for the final product, but one could hope, I guess. They could make him look like Carrot Top and I'd still have the love. I love the return to the roots and will be buying this day one, good or bad, to show support.

Richter Belmount
04-02-2010, 12:09 PM
And it's really not that bad, compared to other laughably bad/disturbing/face melting images. :puke:


http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8197/159939page00.jpg

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2849/1638042.jpg


:bawling:

Lady doth protest too much methinks , why would you keep links to that? >_>

Baloo
04-02-2010, 12:26 PM
uhhhhh... no. the games have aged incredibly well. the only drawback has been overexposure. sonic the hedgehog for the genesis has been re-released for nearly every platform known to man since the saturn

Yeah, I'm going to agree with that. The Sonic games haven't aged poorly at all, that's just flat out wrong. Sonic games are still very much playable today. The 3D ones are the ones that have always been pretty poor. But NOT the 2D ones, those are fantastic.