Games that definitely suck, but you really want to like

[Jisho23]

I think we all have a couple of games that are beyond saving (they are BAAAAD) but there are bits and pieces that are good so you desperately try to like them.

My game like this Lord of the Rings Book 1 (SNES). Probably one of the worst RPGs I've ever played (not quite as a bad as Hillsfar on the NES).

Unfortunately, it has some really, really great audio and while the graphics are bad the animation is fairly good; when you attack things it actually LOOKS like you are attacking (not just one animation frame of your character holding out a sword). So, the game feels like a terrific waste of terrific ambiance (I do love how much detail was put into things like grass that actually sways, ambient sound effects like dripping water and wind).

[Emperor Megas]

Silent Hill 4: The Room I'm one of the biggest Silent Hill fans out there, but the series really jumped the shark with the release of this game. It's got just enough Silent Hill atmosphere to make me want to finish it, but it does way too many things wrong. They should have just kept the game a separate project, independent of the series, which is how it started out. If it didn't have the name Silent Hill in the title I'd have probably loved it.

Alone in the Dark 2: One-Eyed Jack's Revenge was one of my earliest let downs as sequels go. The original on the 3DO was my first survival horror game. It introduced me to the genre and I absolutely loved every minute of it. When I got around to playing the crappy sequel I couldn't believe how terrible it was. Even still today after The New Nightmare, the terrible Uve Boll movie, and the current gen installment (which I haven't played yet, but am told is pretty bad), I'm hoping again hope that they'll produce another AITD experience that comes close to the quality of the original game.

Kolibri for the 32X is another one. I was really excited about this title was I first heard about it, but when I actually played it I put it down within minutes and haven't touched it since (except to dust). Maybe it's better than I remember though; I don't know. I'll have to give it another shot one of these days.

[thom_m]

We had threads like this before. But I'm happilly in before the lock, and will be everytime a new one show up, just do redeclare (is that a real word?) my unconditional love for Heavy Nova (GEN), that steaming piece of shit.

[eskobar]

Despite its SUCKYNESS i always enjoyed DRAGON BALL GT FINAL BOUT for Playstation.

The movements were awful, slow and didn't have a combo system .... the flying mode sucked ... and the Japanese intro song was cut ....

There was something about the graphics that captured the magic of the characters that made me love it. Every time i charged my energy it felt pretty cool.

[BHvrd]

Link: The Faces of Evil.

Yep the animations are laughable, the music is cheese and the gameplay is stiff as a board, but I just can't help it, the game has a charm I can't deny. I go back to it and have beaten it about a dozen times even though I know it stinks, something odd attracts me to it, maybe cause it is like a short dose of platforming done a bit differently.

[Eyedunno]

The best I can do is Clay Fighter. It's not a very good fighting game, the music is mediocre (aside from the main theme, which rules), and it seems like a lot of corners were cut (even on the Tournament Edition, which is nonetheless a slight improvement). But the huge sprites (huge for SNES, anyway) look quite good, and the characters and voices have a charm that makes me love it overall.

None of this applies to C2: Judgement Clay though. That game just sucks.

Hey, watch the hair, man.

[Diatribal Deity]

Way of the Warrior (3DO)...'nuff said.

[PentiumMMX]

I'd have to go with Crash of the Titans, on the PSP. Although I wasn't expecting much from a Crash Bandicoot game that wasn't made by Naughty Dog, I admit the game was actually not too bad; the ability to jack the large enemies (Allowing you to directly control them) was pretty cool, and the controlls where smooth like Cortex Strikes Back before it.

However, the one thing that kept me from finishing it was that it lacked the same charm that the original Crash trilogy had; expecially in the fact that they actually allowed Crash to speak this time around (To be honest, he sounds retarded). Still, had this not been a Crash game, I probably would have finished it.

[Therealqtip]

Any of the RE games before 4 and 5, I fucking hated the camera system.

[baraka]

Silent Hill 4: The Room I'm one of the biggest Silent Hill fans out there, but the series really jumped the shark with the release of this game. It's got just enough Silent Hill atmosphere to make me want to finish it, but it does way too many things wrong. They should have just kept the game a separate project, independent of the series, which is how it started out. If it didn't have the name Silent Hill in the title I'd have probably loved it.

Thats kind of how I feel about Metroid Prime 3

[Steven]

Power Moves for SNES.

Could have made a decent game, but it's pretty lame especially considering it came out months after SNES SF II.

[Arkhan]

I think we all have a couple of games that are beyond saving (they are BAAAAD) but there are bits and pieces that are good so you desperately try to like them.

My game like this Lord of the Rings Book 1 (SNES). Probably one of the worst RPGs I've ever played (not quite as a bad as Hillsfar on the NES).

Unfortunately, it has some really, really great audio and while the graphics are bad the animation is fairly good; when you attack things it actually LOOKS like you are attacking (not just one animation frame of your character holding out a sword). So, the game feels like a terrific waste of terrific ambiance (I do love how much detail was put into things like grass that actually sways, ambient sound effects like dripping water and wind).

unfortunately, the SNES one blows, and the PC version does not.

it got kinda the same treatment as Ultima VI and VII when they hit SNES.




and what, noone mentioned Hydlide?!?!!

[Robocop2]

Silent Hill 4: The Room I'm one of the biggest Silent Hill fans out there, but the series really jumped the shark with the release of this game. It's got just enough Silent Hill atmosphere to make me want to finish it, but it does way too many things wrong. They should have just kept the game a separate project, independent of the series, which is how it started out. If it didn't have the name Silent Hill in the title I'd have probably loved it.



I have to agree wholeheartedly.

[PresidentLeever]

That Transformers game for NES. One of the first games I tried when I discovered NES emulation. Why, well it was the only Transformers title for a long time :)

[Kitsune Sniper]

GOD HAND.

Awesome style. Godfuckingawful control.

[Jisho23]

Way of the Warrior (3DO)...'nuff said.

Oh GOD yes! In spite of how bad it is, it never fails to get a smile out of people, even people like me who have to play it dozens of times just to show other people.

[Jisho23]

unfortunately, the SNES one blows, and the PC version does not.

it got kinda the same treatment as Ultima VI and VII when they hit SNES.




and what, noone mentioned Hydlide?!?!!

Sry about the double post:

Yeah, true, but Ultima VI on the SNES was still a playable (I dare say enjoyable?) game. And if I REALLY wanted to point out a game that went from decent to COMPLETELY worthless on console I would have pointed out Eye of the Beholder. I gave that game way too much of my time before I realized its not just me, the game sucks.

[megasdkirby]

Silent Hill 4: The Room I'm one of the biggest Silent Hill fans out there, but the series really jumped the shark with the release of this game. It's got just enough Silent Hill atmosphere to make me want to finish it, but it does way too many things wrong. They should have just kept the game a separate project, independent of the series, which is how it started out. If it didn't have the name Silent Hill in the title I'd have probably loved it.

I loved Silent Hill 4, but it must be given a chance. It has to be taken not as a Silent Hill game, but a different game entirely. If you try to compare it to Silent Hill, you may not like the game, but as a different entity, it rocks. I also love the ending song. But it takes time to get used to.

For me, I have to say Evil Dead: A Fistfull of Boomstick. I really, REALLY want to like the game. But the battle system is terrible in so many ways, it's not funny. But every time I play it, I try my best to give it a chance. :(

[Emperor Megas]

Gunvalkyrie is another one. Worst controls ever.

[buzz_n64]

Chex Quest (PC)
Double Dragon III (GEN)
Michael Jackson's Moonwalker (GEN)

[DDCecil]

Time Lord for NES. Awesome premise and music, but the gameplay is crap, and the boss with the sombrero makes no sense. Sometimes you can defeat him, but most of the time you can't (Time always runs out!).

Should of added a current boss lifebar, RARE...

[Hawksmoor]

Wartech: Senko no Ronde (360)
Dark Cloud 2 (PS2)
Last Battle (Genesis)

[Baloo]

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Michael Jackson's Moonwalker (GEN)

:hmm:

Anyway, the game for me would probably be...Pokemon Heart Gold. I wanted to like it, looked like a great game. Played it, then after a few days it was just....boring old Pokemon.

[Richter Belmount]

Valkeryie profile , but I never wanted to like it

[Rickstilwell1]

I'm amazed nobody has pulled this one out yet - modern Sonic games. From Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog '06, and Sonic Unleashed I try to find a reason to like them as much as Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, but they just don't seem as good to me. Sonic Heroes had me frustrated out of my mind in the last couple levels and Sonic '06 seemed very short. The other two I haven't played very much but everyone else says Sonic Adventure is still better than those.

As far as handhelds go, they're pretty much fine the way they are. Handheld Sonic never really had much expectations I guess because handheld gaming is more casual.

[Arcade_Ness]

Monster Madness(360) I love the concept, and the attempt to pay homage to Zombies Ate My Neighbors. However the controls were really wonky, particularly any time you platformed and the vechicle controls were garbage.

Faussete Amour(PC Engine)
This game appealed to me with its anime art style/cutscences, and I love sidescrollers. Then everything else ruins the game, like dull music, poor controls when trying to swing off platforms a la Bionic Commando, and cheap as hell bosses. I didn't even mind the two hit kill as much, since it reminded me of Ghouls and Ghosts.

[j_factor]

Subterranea. The concept is solid, the graphics and sound are great, but I just can't get behind the controls.

[skaar]

Actually mine's a somewhat recent one - Onechanbara Bikini Samurai Squad.

Girls wearing bikinis and cowboy hats killing zombies with swords? How can you go wrong, right?

Boring, dull, uninspired. Not even worth playing through for achievements... I was so sad. I put 4 hours into it and gave up.

[DigitalSpace]

The game that currently comes to mind for me is Vanishing Point (PS1/Dreamcast).

Before you know it, the difficulty gets so unforgiving that things get to a point where just one mistake - even a small crash - can screw you over for the entire race. It's pretty much impossible to get through a race without one of the AI opponents crashing into you and slowing you down - or worse. And the AI racers drive like it's Burnout. Nothing like finally getting through a tough first race only to get screwed over in the next one (or the one after that), forcing you to play through that first race again. Makes you wish you could pull a Burnout 3 and send your opponents flying off a cliff or into a guardrail.

There's no difficulty setting to make things a little bit easier, and since I don't like breaking my Dreamcast controllers, I just gave up. Would have liked to unlock that early 90s Taurus so I could race like I'm Conan O'Brien, but that won't be happening.

[Arkhan]

Faussete Amour(PC Engine)
This game appealed to me with its anime art style/cutscences, and I love sidescrollers. Then everything else ruins the game, like dull music, poor controls when trying to swing off platforms a la Bionic Commando, and cheap as hell bosses. I didn't even mind the two hit kill as much, since it reminded me of Ghouls and Ghosts.

I like that game, but the music leaves a shit load to be desired. It doesnt fit the game at all.

[jdc]

Okay......how about any and all of those Agetec rpgs from the PS2's launch day? Summoner, Evergrace, Eternal Ring etc......might as well toss in King's Field too. They are SO compelling in their shitiness that I simply HAVE to play and finish them all....just to say that I did.

[Aussie2B]

Actually mine's a somewhat recent one - Onechanbara Bikini Samurai Squad.

Girls wearing bikinis and cowboy hats killing zombies with swords? How can you go wrong, right?

Boring, dull, uninspired. Not even worth playing through for achievements... I was so sad. I put 4 hours into it and gave up.

With a premise like that, you were expecting depth?

[kupomogli]

Final Fantasy 12. I've only played it one time for about six hours and loved everything about it except the battle system. First 30 minutes of the game and I was like. Finally! This is the Final Fantasy I've been waiting for(since I disliked FF10 and FF11, though did enjoy 10-2 for gameplay only.) The graphics are just beautiful, areas are well done, open but still enclosed to not go off track, the music is amazing, considering how good the main composer is, the storyline for what I've seen was actually really good, and up to that point, everything in the game was enjoyable. The guild system and Montblanc making an appearance were probably my favorite things.

So to the battle system. What I didn't like about it is that you can't control your characters. You can "technically" control them, but there's the catch. Pressing O opens up the battle menu. You start on your first character so you then choose your character to do which action, so a second button press before you can choose your actions. If you want to go to a different character outside your main character you must hit, O down or up to that character. Now when you see that it doesn't sound that bad, but just say about every single action you have to do that. Per character. You're technically forced to use Gambits unless you want to take an overly long time to just enter each action, most of which will be attack.

Another problem is an action is taken before the ATB fills up. You take an action and once your ATB fills up but at that time you might need to heal, or even your Gambits might kick in to heal if you have your characters set up with Gambits. Instead of the bar filling up with the new action, it completely restarts the ATB and you have to wait again. Why couldn't they have made it so that the bar fills up then the action is done whatever the best action at the time would be for both Gambits or whatever the player wanted to choose.

The last thing is the skill system. Ever since the sphere grid Squaresoft seems to have such a major boner about expanded multi directional skill system. The job board is nothing more than open version of the sphere grid. So everyone can be the same as everyone else faster. However there are the quickenings that are the only things that will differentiate characters.

So yeah. The thing that ruins the game for me is its gameplay system in its entirety.

I've yet to give the game a second chance but I always back the game up on some aspects because other than the battle system it has a lot of good qualities. First impression(and that's only a six hour impression) is the game failed to keep my interest due to the battle system. Maybe whenever I play it again I'll be able to enjoy the game for what it is, but it was something that bothered me.

[pseudonym]

Okay......how about any and all of those Agetec rpgs from the PS2's launch day? Summoner, Evergrace, Eternal Ring etc......might as well toss in King's Field too. They are SO compelling in their shitiness that I simply HAVE to play and finish them all....just to say that I did.

I bought my PS2 along with four games, The Bouncer, Oni, Summoner, and Armored Core 2. Of those four, only AC2 was any good, I ended up taking the other three back to exchange them for another game. I think it was Silent Hill 2 or Gran Turismo 3.

For older games, I would say Ultima Warriors of Destiny on the NES. I like the game on the PC, why was the NES port such a POS?

[kupomogli]

Okay......how about any and all of those Agetec rpgs from the PS2's launch day? Summoner, Evergrace, Eternal Ring etc......might as well toss in King's Field too. They are SO compelling in their shitiness that I simply HAVE to play and finish them all....just to say that I did.

Summoner was developed and released by THQ. Evergrace, Eternal Ring, and King's Field were all released in the US by Agetec. Summoner sucked though. Not only was the gameplay crap, but it had some pretty bad load times and glitches. Summoner 2 looks better, but never played it due to the first.

Evergrace is an amazing game, I've beaten it atleast 10 times, both stories, and I've always enjoyed it. Solid gameplay, difficulty, great music, and good level design. Story is hardly there but it doesn't suck. Forever Kingdom/Evergrace 2 is even better, so if you have enjoyed Evergrace at all you'd like this game.

I've always enjoyed King's Field ever since the first game(or second since King's Field is actually King's Field 2.) Eternal Ring and Shadow Tower are games with the same gameplay.

I wanted Demon's Souls solely because of how much I liked FromSoftware games because the games never disappointed me. Except Tenchu. Tenchu sucks, but then again, I dislike stealth games, so MGS too is a series I'm not a fan of.

[davepesc]

We had threads like this before. But I'm happilly in before the lock, and will be everytime a new one show up, just do redeclare (is that a real word?) my unconditional love for Heavy Nova (GEN), that steaming piece of shit.

That's my vote for worst game of all time. What could you possibly like about it?
To stick with the theme, I loved Zero Tolerance on the Genesis. I didn't care for a second that all the action takes place on about 1/5 of the screen!

(And I love King's Field/Eternal Ring)

[ReTrO-pLaYeR]

I'm going to have to go with TMNT for the Nintendo Entertainment System. Yes, the game is very cheap at times and downright spiteful- but with enough practice and knowledge of all the tricks (like exiting the van to make the bulldozers disappear) you can get very far. Still haven't beaten it but I am playing it once again.

[ConsoleAddict]

I really wanted to like Mighty Bomb Jack for the NES. I loved Bomb Jack in the arcade but the direction they took for the home version over at Tecmo was a bad one. You can't play a platform game with the floaty controls and clueless gameplay. Too many times you die because you couldn't control MBJ properly. Also, you didn't know what you were supposed to do sometimes.

How about that "You're too greedy! You must be punished!" BS? That killed any interest in playing the game.

I bought the game from the VC when I bought my first Wii and tried to get into it again. Could not enjoy it. Well, at least it only cost 500 points.

Last Battle was another one. Such beautiful graphics and such rancid gameplay. That title screams "launch title".

[starsoldier1]

Gulp... Deadly Towers. I thought it had such cool artwork and the game music wasn't too either back then so I played it quite a bit but it was so damn hard, there was no in game maps, and there were annoying enemies everywhere even in secret bonus rooms. The game could have been the next Zelda if it wasn't so unforgiving.

[LynchJustRules]

I know I'm gonna ripped on for this but Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest is definitely my choice.

I remember being really excited about this game coming out since the original Castlevania was one of my favorite NES games. Then when it finally came out and I popped it into my NES, I was like...:puke:

I tried giving this game so many chances and to this day I still think just about everything the Angry Video Game Nerd says is pretty accurate.

[shinobimusashi]

all of the 128 bit ufc games(dc, ps2, xbox) the rosters were unbelievable(especially the first one for dc bas rutten ftw!!) and the graphics were enjoyable, however the gameplay was ugly as hell, and the controlls were very stupid. terrible fighting games.

[Icarus Moonsight]

and what, noone mentioned Hydlide?!?!!

You already did. Besides, not many really want to like Hydlide.

God Hand, Wartech, Gunvalkyrie... Who the hell are you people!? LOL

[Arkhan]

For older games, I would say Ultima Warriors of Destiny on the NES. I like the game on the PC, why was the NES port such a POS?

Because they tried to incorporate all the keyboard commands into the controller scheme in a NEW style, instead of going with what worked the last 2 times w/ Exodus and Quest of the Avatar.

ALL they needed to do, was just reuse 4's engine basically! >_< Add a bit more polish to it based off what didn't work so great last time, and you'd be set!

Yeah, They completely botched it, and it's awful. Esp. since 5 is my personal favorite.

[pseudonym]

Oh-uh. Hydlide was invoked, now where are Arkhan and Zoltor? :wink 2:I have to agree with ConsoleAddict about Might Bomb Jack. Not a good game but I still like it.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Zoltor took the hammer in the keister, like a champ, and Arkhan was the party that initiated this Hydlide Protocol incident. :D

No one can save you from Hydlide! Not even the power button! It's power lingers on, forever... :evil:

[vxkens]

Cubivore on Gamecube

Arkanoid DS. RIP Taito.

PN 03

Bubsy 2. Yes, I enjoyed the first one.

Mega Man Battle Chip Challenge on GBA. I'm a huge fan of the Battle Network series, but this game is a head scratcher.

Iridion 3D

[Chainsaw_Charlie]

Dark Cloud 2 (PS2)


That's a GREAT game, if you said Dark Cloud I'd believe you

[Emperor Megas]

PN 03I actually liked P.N.03. It's definitely style over substance, but styles goes far with me.


Iridion 3DJust HORRIBLE. To date, that's the only GBA game I've ever sold. Some unsuspecting parent gave me $5 bucks for it at a yard sale, which is great considering I paid about $10 for it years before.

[Xtincthed]

GTA4.. everyone loves it.. and i want to love it too
but after multiple hours of trying, i still dont like it

[Kiddo]

On the note of Castlevania games; pretty much any of the 3D ones released up to this point. I'm hoping Lords of Shadow actually breaks the trend and is actually legitimately good.

[vxkens]

I mentioned Arkanoid DS before, but I should add pretty much all the recent Taito arcade updates, with the exception of Space Invaders Extreme. Bubble Bobble Revolution and Rainbow Islands Revolution are crimes against humanity. IIRC, the DS version of BBR had a game breaking glitch and actually had to be recalled. RIR is some weird touch screen game and doesn't play anything like the original. It's a shame, because these are my two favorite arcade games of all time.

At least New Zealand Story Revolution was halfway decent, but it still wasn't as good as the original.

[Emperor Megas]

I mentioned Arkanoid DS before, but I should add pretty much all the recent Taito arcade updates, with the exception of Space Invaders Extreme. Bubble Bobble Revolution and Rainbow Islands Revolution are crimes against humanity. IIRC, the DS version of BBR had a game breaking glitch and actually had to be recalled. RIR is some weird touch screen game and doesn't play anything like the original. It's a shame, because these are my two favorite arcade games of all time.

At least New Zealand Story Revolution was halfway decent, but it still wasn't as good as the original.Damn, that's disappointing to hear. I love those Taito classics, and I own the revolution titles, but I haven't gotten around to playing any of them yet. Sucks to hear that they're not very good.

[Arkhan]

Oh-uh. Hydlide was invoked, now where are Arkhan and Zoltor? :wink 2:I have to agree with ConsoleAddict about Might Bomb Jack. Not a good game but I still like it.


Uhhh, I posted right above you? :)

[LaughingElfMan]

The Punisher (NES). I want this to be a good game, but LJN worked their magic on it. No amount of denial can remove that rainbow.

[Arkhan]

The Punisher (NES). I want this to be a good game, but LJN worked their magic on it. No amount of denial can remove that rainbow.

Well, I don't think LJN made a good game. Its not possible. They were all high while making games.

[Garry Silljo]

The Punisher (NES). I want this to be a good game, but LJN worked their magic on it. No amount of denial can remove that rainbow.

It could have used some omusic but overall I didn't think this game was all that bad.

[ShinobiMan]

Any of the RE games before 4 and 5, I fucking hated the camera system.

Really? They are some of my favorite games of all time.

Bugs Bunny Birthday Blowout on NES. It really does sucks. The graphics are choppy and the gameplay is uninspired, but I just find the game charming. It's music is memorable and upbeat, the visuals are colorful and bright, and it was the first game I ever completed from start to finish. That alone makes it special to me.

[Mimi Nakamura]

Any of the RE games before 4 and 5, I fucking hated the camera system.

Seconded. I really tried too.

[Mimi Nakamura]

GTA4.. everyone loves it.. and i want to love it too
but after multiple hours of trying, i still dont like it

I'm still trying....

[LaughingElfMan]

It could have used some omusic but overall I didn't think this game was all that bad.

I just don't have much patience for games in which I end up shooting at boxes more often than enemies. Unless we're talking about Kirby.

[kupomogli]

You already did. Besides, not many really want to like Hydlide.

God Hand, Wartech, Gunvalkyrie... Who the hell are you people!? LOL

God Hand is amazing. Also being a big Armored Core fan I liked GunValkyrie as it is similar styled with hard to use controls. One game XBOX got that the PS2 unfortunately didn't which really sucks so I've only played it. While GunValkyrie isn't from FromSoftware, From later came out with the AC4 games with some very difficult to use control schemes. Move, Aim, Shoot, Boost, Quick Boost, Change Weapons, etc, all at once, repeatedly at different rates. Because of the controls I prefer the prior games that allow for original controls without the implemented quick boost. Because of the extra buttons needed on AC4 implementing the original control scheme doesn't work properly unfortunately.

Never played Wartech, and it does look good, but I suck at shmups so I'd probably hate it.

[kupomogli]

Dragon Ball Raging Blast. Still has a lot of things wrong with it in comparison to Budokai Tenkaichi 3, but started to like it the more I played.