SoulBlazer
06-23-2003, 01:29 PM
What do people consider to be the BEST home version of Atari's vector game Star Wars? I LOVE the arcade game and would kill to have one in my apartment (also a huge fan of Sega's Star Wars Triliogy Arcade) but none of the home versions seem to do it justice. I know they can't have the vector look, but often it's the controls. Even using a Sidewinder in MAME, I still can't get it right. I can't control the pointer very well and my shots go all over the place.
Same problem with Tron. I set up my joystick in Mame to allow me to use the 'twist' of the stick to control the arm or gun, but I can't STOP it on demand like you can in the arcade version.
Oh, if only those games had been included on one of the retro versions -- I FINALLY got a version of Time Pilot and Gyruss with Konami's Arcade Classics that use the analog stick -- as God intended them to be played! :D
NE146
06-23-2003, 01:41 PM
I don't think Time Pilot nor Gyruss used an analog stick :? They used your standard 8 directional joystick. But of course I'm sure an analog would work just fine :)
As far as Star Wars and Tron goes.. That's just the trade-offs when it comes to Mame. Since the arcade cabs had those custom controls (the flight yolk in Star Wars, and the trigger joystick/spinner in tron) it's kind of hard to translate them too well to your standard pads and joysticks. But I guess you take what you can get
For Star Wars in Mame though.. have you tried using the mouse? It's not the most fun way to play it, but it seems to work ok. As far as the Best home version.. that's a tough call. If you're looking for something close to the arcade, I don't think ANY of them come off too well. I do like the 400/800/5200 version and the 2600 version, but for different reasons :)
Here's a link you might like (see article #4):
http://www.tomheroes.com/Video%20Games%20FS/Retrotimes/retrotimes_51.htm#The%20Many%20Faces%20of%20.%20.% 20.%20Star%20Wars:%20Arcade
Personally, I think the chances of the PS3 coming prior to late August 2006 is about 3 percent, with about 97 percent that it will come out sometime after late August. I'm thinking it will launch on the 6 year anniversary of the PS2 in late October.
But I'm sure that a few of you out there actually take Sony on their word for a Spring Launch.
The fact of the matter is that no "major" home console other than the Sega Saturn has ever launched prior to August in the United States. Most "major" consoles have launched in September or more recently in October and November. The Sega Saturn launch was a fluke, it happened to be a panic move by Sega after seeing what the Playstation could do, they decided to rush it out to try to get people to spend their money on the Saturn before they even had a chance at the Playstation, but that was very much out of the norm.
Now you might be wondering why would Sony say they are going to launch Spring 2006 if they have absolutely no intentions of doing so?
It's very simple. They know that there are enough people out there that will actually believe them. And they know that some of these people will be people who are considering buying either the XBOX 360 or the PS3, and they know that if some of these gamers really believe that the PS3 is coming in Spring of 2006, that they would be willing to hold out 6 more months, to be able to buy the PS3 instead.
They also know that if they came out and said October 2006, that many gamers would say, "Well, damn that's a whole nuther year away, might as well get the 360 this November and then worry about the PS3 next Xmas." But by planting this thought that it's Spring instead of Fall, some gamers will say, "Well, I could get the 360 now, but man, I probably should wait a few more months for the PS3".
Then what happens is that in February, Sony announces that they unfortunatley have to push back the launch date from Spring to October 2006 due to shortages in key components needed to manufacture the system.
YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE BANK!
I don't blame Sony for this tactic, it's a standard tactic, we've heard it many times before. Any time a company is coming out with their system a year behind another company they always talk about a spring launch and then later announce a setback that causes the launch to be moved to fall. That's the way it's always been, and that's the way it will always be, when it comes to "major" home consoles.
Personally, I think the chances of the PS3 coming prior to late August 2006 is about 3 percent, with about 97 percent that it will come out sometime after late August. I'm thinking it will launch on the 6 year anniversary of the PS2 in late October.
But I'm sure that a few of you out there actually take Sony on their word for a Spring Launch.
The fact of the matter is that no "major" home console other than the Sega Saturn has ever launched prior to August in the United States. Most "major" consoles have launched in September or more recently in October and November. The Sega Saturn launch was a fluke, it happened to be a panic move by Sega after seeing what the Playstation could do, they decided to rush it out to try to get people to spend their money on the Saturn before they even had a chance at the Playstation, but that was very much out of the norm.
Now you might be wondering why would Sony say they are going to launch Spring 2006 if they have absolutely no intentions of doing so?
It's very simple. They know that there are enough people out there that will actually believe them. And they know that some of these people will be people who are considering buying either the XBOX 360 or the PS3, and they know that if some of these gamers really believe that the PS3 is coming in Spring of 2006, that they would be willing to hold out 6 more months, to be able to buy the PS3 instead.
They also know that if they came out and said October 2006, that many gamers would say, "Well, damn that's a whole nuther year away, might as well get the 360 this November and then worry about the PS3 next Xmas." But by planting this thought that it's Spring instead of Fall, some gamers will say, "Well, I could get the 360 now, but man, I probably should wait a few more months for the PS3".
Then what happens is that in February, Sony announces that they unfortunatley have to push back the launch date from Spring to October 2006 due to shortages in key components needed to manufacture the system.
YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE BANK!
I don't blame Sony for this tactic, it's a standard tactic, we've heard it many times before. Any time a company is coming out with their system a year behind another company they always talk about a spring launch and then later announce a setback that causes the launch to be moved to fall. That's the way it's always been, and that's the way it will always be, when it comes to "major" home consoles.
Personally, I think the chances of the PS3 coming prior to late August 2006 is about 3 percent, with about 97 percent that it will come out sometime after late August. I'm thinking it will launch on the 6 year anniversary of the PS2 in late October.
But I'm sure that a few of you out there actually take Sony on their word for a Spring Launch.
The fact of the matter is that no "major" home console other than the Sega Saturn has ever launched prior to August in the United States. Most "major" consoles have launched in September or more recently in October and November. The Sega Saturn launch was a fluke, it happened to be a panic move by Sega after seeing what the Playstation could do, they decided to rush it out to try to get people to spend their money on the Saturn before they even had a chance at the Playstation, but that was very much out of the norm.
Now you might be wondering why would Sony say they are going to launch Spring 2006 if they have absolutely no intentions of doing so?
It's very simple. They know that there are enough people out there that will actually believe them. And they know that some of these people will be people who are considering buying either the XBOX 360 or the PS3, and they know that if some of these gamers really believe that the PS3 is coming in Spring of 2006, that they would be willing to hold out 6 more months, to be able to buy the PS3 instead.
They also know that if they came out and said October 2006, that many gamers would say, "Well, damn that's a whole nuther year away, might as well get the 360 this November and then worry about the PS3 next Xmas." But by planting this thought that it's Spring instead of Fall, some gamers will say, "Well, I could get the 360 now, but man, I probably should wait a few more months for the PS3".
Then what happens is that in February, Sony announces that they unfortunatley have to push back the launch date from Spring to October 2006 due to shortages in key components needed to manufacture the system.
YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE BANK!
I don't blame Sony for this tactic, it's a standard tactic, we've heard it many times before. Any time a company is coming out with their system a year behind another company they always talk about a spring launch and then later announce a setback that causes the launch to be moved to fall. That's the way it's always been, and that's the way it will always be, when it comes to "major" home consoles.