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OldSchoolGamer
04-20-2010, 07:19 PM
Other than collecting purposes that is? I have two, one with Viper modchip and full sized DVD lid and another with Regular lid (miniDVD only) and XenoGC modchip or something like that. I know the Wii is backwards compatible, so is there any reason or anything I cannot do on the Wii in comparison to what I already have? Thanks in advance!

Damaramu
04-20-2010, 07:22 PM
Do you have the Gameboy Advance Player? That's the main reason I own a Gamecube.

OldSchoolGamer
04-20-2010, 07:29 PM
Do you have the Gameboy Advance Player? That's the main reason I own a Gamecube.

I do not actually and that is one of the reasons I thought should I shell out for one or put that towards a Wii also...............

Damaramu
04-20-2010, 07:41 PM
I do not actually and that is one of the reasons I thought should I shell out for one or put that towards a Wii also...............

I think they're worth the money, yeah. There are plenty on Ebay at OK prices.

BetaWolf47
04-20-2010, 07:55 PM
Playing Gamecube LAN games, as well as the PSO games on the internet, cannot be done on Wii.

shopkins
04-20-2010, 07:59 PM
Do you have the Gameboy Advance Player? That's the main reason I own a Gamecube.

That's why I keep mine, too. Playing the GBA Castlevanias and games like it on the GBA Player felt like having a whole new classic console to enjoy.

Ro-J
04-20-2010, 08:31 PM
The last time I checked, Gameboy Players can be had for $10 at Gamestop. Well worth the small price.

OldSchoolGamer
04-20-2010, 08:34 PM
Playing Gamecube LAN games, as well as the PSO games on the internet, cannot be done on Wii.

Well honestly that's two things I have zero interest in so I don't need to consider that.

As far as GBA compatibility are there option to do that on Wii like modchips, Wiikey with emulators etc?

Damaramu
04-20-2010, 08:54 PM
The last time I checked, Gameboy Players can be had for $10 at Gamestop. Well worth the small price.

That's where I got mine; for that price too. Awesome deal!

Rickstilwell1
04-20-2010, 08:59 PM
The GBA Player is also the only hardware that can play dedicated Game Boy Color games on the TV as the Super Game Boy doesn't support them. As far as emulation goes, a modded Xbox 1 has the ability to play Game Boy Advance games at imperfect speeds so I think a Wii should be capable. Depends on how good the emulator for it is.

Ace
04-20-2010, 09:10 PM
There is a port of Visual Boy Advance for the Wii, but it runs with a lot of frameskip(games are very rough). If you want to emulate the GameBoy Advance, it's best to emulate it on a computer.

As for keeping your GameCubes if you get a Wii, for me personally, it's pointless to keep any GameCubes around unless you, 1) play Phantasy Star Online or, 2) have the GameBoy Player. The GameBoy Player is the only reason I still have my GameCube. If I wouldn't have bought one, I would have sold my GameCube.

Leo_A
04-20-2010, 09:16 PM
I keep it hooked up for several reasons. The Game Boy Player is the big one. And it's minor, but it's nice to not need to have the Wii remote out just to start up a GameCube game.

So I keep it hooked up to a CRT for GameBoy titles and classic GCN compilations with a Hori digital controller hooked up at all times, and just play 3d GameCube games on my Wii with my Wavebird controller on a LCD.

Purkeynator
04-20-2010, 09:25 PM
One other potential issue is the use of the action replay for codes and playing imports. I think one of the Wii's updates killed support from the Action Replay so you would need an actual Gamecube to use an Action replay I believe.

Sanriostar
04-20-2010, 10:06 PM
I keep around GC's for a few reasons:

1: The aforementioned GBA player.

2: My Mother is a big Animal Crossing freak, (yeah, just go read my location bar...) and a GC lets her time travel without screwing around with my Wii's system clock.

3: You never know...

OldSchoolGamer
04-21-2010, 02:51 AM
One other potential issue is the use of the action replay for codes and playing imports. I think one of the Wii's updates killed support from the Action Replay so you would need an actual Gamecube to use an Action replay I believe.

Can anyone confirm this? I DO like to play with codes and such.........

wingzrow
04-21-2010, 03:22 AM
I can confirm that updates completely blocked out the gamecube action replay discs on wii. It's a moot point though as the homebrew app ocarina does what the action replay did + more.

chrisbid
04-21-2010, 09:45 AM
another reason not to sell it is that you wont get very much money out of it. youll be lucky to sell it for 20 dollars

BetaWolf47
04-21-2010, 09:58 AM
The GBA Player is also the only hardware that can play dedicated Game Boy Color games on the TV as the Super Game Boy doesn't support them.
There's always the Super Game Boy 2, but that's rare.

I can confirm that updates completely blocked out the gamecube action replay discs on wii. It's a moot point though as the homebrew app ocarina does what the action replay did + more.
I'm pretty sure Datel keeps updating the firmware of their Action Replays to fix this. There's no way to get an updated copy aside from buying a new one, however.

Jorpho
04-21-2010, 02:49 PM
There's always the Super Game Boy 2, but that's rare.The Super Game Boy 2 only added a link cable port. It does not support GBC games.

OldSchoolGamer
04-21-2010, 04:25 PM
I can confirm that updates completely blocked out the gamecube action replay discs on wii. It's a moot point though as the homebrew app ocarina does what the action replay did + more.


another reason not to sell it is that you wont get very much money out of it. youll be lucky to sell it for 20 dollars


Ah very interesting info fellows! Thanks for that. Hmmmm, so far I anm thinking keep the Gamecube but eventually get a Wii with all the bells and whistles....it's the only way to be sure lol!

kupomogli
04-21-2010, 04:56 PM
Oldschoolgamer? You have a Gamecube broadband adapter you don't need? ^_^

rbudrick
04-21-2010, 05:43 PM
The Super Game Boy 2 only added a link cable port. It does not support GBC games.

Funny this is mentioned. My understanding was the SGB2 was identical except for the link port. Then, I was reading an issue of (I think) Gamepro from a few months ago and they mentioned the SGB2 had GBC capability. I was like, WTF? I have NEVER heard that before. I thought it had to be a typo, then I see it reiterated here. However, the SGB2 came out in 1995, iirc, so I don't see how this wold be possible considering the 1997 or 1998 release of the GBC.

So confused.

-Rob

Leo_A
04-21-2010, 10:09 PM
It doesn't support Game Boy Color specific titles. Anyone that is saying the SGB2 does is confused and incorrect.

OldSchoolGamer
04-21-2010, 11:36 PM
Oldschoolgamer? You have a Gamecube broadband adapter you don't need? ^_^


I think I might actually why? Should I Ebay it?

Tron 2.0
04-22-2010, 12:53 AM
The GC is worth keeping OSG if you have the gb player or even pso and the bba to play it on a privite server.Heck that's why i still have mine.

Ed Oscuro
04-22-2010, 12:57 AM
Funny this is mentioned. My understanding was the SGB2 was identical except for the link port. Then, I was reading an issue of (I think) Gamepro from a few months ago and they mentioned the SGB2 had GBC capability. I was like, WTF? I have NEVER heard that before. I thought it had to be a typo, then I see it reiterated here. However, the SGB2 came out in 1995, iirc, so I don't see how this wold be possible considering the 1997 or 1998 release of the GBC.

So confused.

-Rob
They may be getting it confused with the Super Game Boy enhanced titles...which of course any SGB will support.

In any case, hooray for the Game Boy Player, even if fullscreen makes games stretched and nasty. I got lucky and found the retro Hori controller on the cheap (never have used it though).

kedawa
04-22-2010, 01:29 AM
Aside from the already mentioned Gameboy Player, I keep my GC because I simply don't want a Wii.

kupomogli
04-22-2010, 01:45 AM
I think I might actually why? Should I Ebay it?

Send it to me to borrow for a long time?

I want to use one for Phantasy Star Online but I don't want to pay $30 for one.

Callin
04-22-2010, 01:48 AM
I kept my Gamecube even after getting the Wii.

1. For Gameboy games. Seriously, it can play all but ~30 of them.

2. Four Swords Adventures. You can play this GC game on the Wii, and if you still have a Gamecube with a GB Player, you can hook it up to the Wii and it acts like a GBA.

I honestly have no reason to buy a second gameboy for multiplayer. Using a portable DVD player and a gamecube works just as well.

Ed Oscuro
04-22-2010, 01:57 AM
Send it to me to borrow for a long time?

I want to use one for Phantasy Star Online but I don't want to pay $30 for one.
Are they really worth $30 or are you stealth lowballing? :D

allyourblood
04-22-2010, 02:32 AM
I also keep mine for the Game Boy player (which is one of the coolest console add-ons of all time). However, my number one reason for still owning a Game Cube is to avoid having to "go through" the Wii in order to play GC games. There is just something ultra-irritating about having to wave that stupid remote around just to select the Game Cube/disc channel. I wish Nintendo would update the Wii to allow booting directly to a GC game.

On the flip side, if you don't have a Game Cube component cable (I do, but I was lucky and got it for next to nothing), it's gonna be hard to go back to playing in s-video or composite (unless your current TV doesn't support component and/or progressive scan, in which case, you won't see any visual upgrade with the Wii).

Lastly, the Game Cube is 10x more adorable than the Wii, and is so widely shunned nowadays that if nothing else, you should keep it out of pity.

josekortez
04-22-2010, 03:43 AM
Much like the Action Replay won't work, the Freeloader disc that enables import GameCube titles to play on the GameCube won't work on the Wii. I got a Freeloader disc at EB waaaaay back in the day for a penny so it's worth it for me to keep a GameCube or two around.

I've acquired a few decent import GameCube games over the few years. I still need to open my copy of Family Stadium 2003 and give it a try.

kedawa
04-22-2010, 08:37 AM
2. Four Swords Adventures. You can play this GC game on the Wii, and if you still have a Gamecube with a GB Player, you can hook it up to the Wii and it acts like a GBA.
That's actually really cool. I suppose you could do that just as easily with two GC's.


There is just something ultra-irritating about having to wave that stupid remote around just to select the Game Cube/disc channel. I wish Nintendo would update the Wii to allow booting directly to a GC game.
I wish you could just navigate with a controller like every other console.
Dicking around with the remote for games, even Wii games, that use different controllers really is lame.

Purkeynator
04-22-2010, 08:47 AM
Much like the Action Replay won't work, the Freeloader disc that enables import GameCube titles to play on the GameCube won't work on the Wii. I got a Freeloader disc at EB waaaaay back in the day for a penny so it's worth it for me to keep a GameCube or two around.

I've acquired a few decent import GameCube games over the few years. I still need to open my copy of Family Stadium 2003 and give it a try.

That is true, there are a few good imports to grab out there. I personally have Nintendo Puzzle Collection and Donkey Konga 3.

Callin
04-22-2010, 12:06 PM
That's actually really cool. I suppose you could do that just as easily with two GC's.
Yeah, you can. I think the GB Player is the only way to connect a Gamecube to a Wii.

BetaWolf47
04-22-2010, 12:26 PM
I wish you could just navigate with a controller like every other console.
Dicking around with the remote for games, even Wii games, that use different controllers really is lame.

Huh? If you're using a different Wii controller (classic controller, guitar controller), you can navigate with it. Gamecube controller and nunchuck don't.

allyourblood
04-22-2010, 12:55 PM
Huh? If you're using a different Wii controller (classic controller, guitar controller), you can navigate with it. Gamecube controller and nunchuck don't.

Yeah, the classic controller indeed works well on the channel menus. One thing that bugs me though, is if you run into an error, like the Forecast channel failing because you don't have WiiConnect24 turned on, the classic controller won't let you navigate to the exit button. You have to switch back to the remote.

Aussie2B
04-22-2010, 01:57 PM
This may be a dumb question, but does the Wii play GameCube games EXACTLY the same as the GameCube? I don't mean 99% the same, I mean EXACTLY. I'm a purist in that way. I still do all of my PS1 gaming on an original PlayStation just because of the small differences in how a PS2 plays them (like making ugly boxes visible around 2D sprites in some games). No matter how minute the difference between GameCube and Wii, I'd want to know about it.

So far I've continued to use the GameCube for all of my playing of GameCube games. Although in most cases it hasn't been an option since most of my GameCube playing has been at my mom's house where there's no Wii anyway.

allyourblood
04-22-2010, 02:28 PM
Of all the GC games I've played on my Wii, I have never noticed any differences between the two platforms, performance-wise. Even the load times appear to be the same.

jb143
04-22-2010, 02:31 PM
Are there any 3'rd party gamecube controllers that do not work on the Wii, or is mine just busted? I've been assuming the latter but figured I'd ask just in case.

Leo_A
04-22-2010, 03:10 PM
I kept my Gamecube even after getting the Wii.

1. For Gameboy games. Seriously, it can play all but ~30 of them.


As far as I know, the GBP is 100% compatible. Even the motion control ones technically do work on the console, although it's hardly practical.

I doubt there are 30 titles not compatible on it.

rbudrick
04-22-2010, 03:45 PM
As far as I know, the GBP is 100% compatible. Even the motion control ones technically do work on the console, although it's hardly practical.

I doubt there are 30 titles not compatible on it.

Good luck playing any tilt sensor games on the GC.

-Rob

Leo_A
04-22-2010, 04:30 PM
Good luck playing any tilt sensor games on the GC.

-Rob

As my post clearly said, it isn't practical.

Callin
04-22-2010, 05:48 PM
As far as I know, the GBP is 100% compatible. Even the motion control ones technically do work on the console, although it's hardly practical.

I doubt there are 30 titles not compatible on it.
"Impractical" is a vast understatement. For Kirby Tilt and Tumble, you not only have to hold the the Gamecube and tilt it, but due to its orientation, flip it 180 degrees so the wires are facing you. Don't forget to pick up the controller when you want to press buttons, and jerk the Gamecube up when you want to jump. LOL

BTW, the GBA video cartridges are completely incompatible, since Nintendo didn't want people recording the stuff playing on the TV.

BetaWolf47
04-22-2010, 06:22 PM
Compatibility is perfect, except for games that use an add-on that Wii cannot fit. If a game uses the broadband adapter, you cannot go online. If it uses the microphone or Game Boy Player, you're good.


Are there any 3'rd party gamecube controllers that do not work on the Wii, or is mine just busted? I've been assuming the latter but figured I'd ask just in case.

I think that the physical shape of some 3rd party Gamecube stuff makes it a bad fit. Someone on another forum mentioned having to literally wedge 3rd-party memory cards out with a knife. Have you tried it on a Gamecube?

Also, I think that other than the motion sensing titles for Game Boy Color, there is one game that doesn't work with the Game Boy Player. I might be wrong though.

heybtbm
04-22-2010, 06:51 PM
I could never part with that little purple box. Can't remember the last time I put a disc in, but still.

BetaWolf47
04-22-2010, 06:57 PM
I could never part with that little purple box. Can't remember the last time I put a disc in, but still.

I don't know about you guys... I still use my Gamecube about as much as my Wii. It feels more natural playing games on their dedicated systems.

Leo_A
04-22-2010, 07:08 PM
"Impractical" is a vast understatement. For Kirby Tilt and Tumble, you not only have to hold the the Gamecube and tilt it, but due to its orientation, flip it 180 degrees so the wires are facing you. Don't forget to pick up the controller when you want to press buttons, and jerk the Gamecube up when you want to jump. LOL

BTW, the GBA video cartridges are completely incompatible, since Nintendo didn't want people recording the stuff playing on the TV.

The point was that technically, they still play. And I stated it was impractical in my initial post, so I don't understand why it's been veered away from my question. Do you have a list of the approximately 30 games that you said don't work in a Game Boy Player? I'd love to see the list since there doesn't seem to be one anywhere else.

Callin
04-22-2010, 07:41 PM
Still waiting to see that list of 30 games I've never seen elsewhere.
By incompatible I was obviously referring to these cartridges with built-in features. You call it impractical because they can technically boot up, I call it incompatible because the controller itself is not gonna vibrate while playing these built-in-rumble games - unlike if they were being played on a gameboy. Missing feature = not fully compatible.

Leo_A
04-22-2010, 10:36 PM
The lack of controller rumble in a game doesn't make it unplayable, but thanks for explaining your statement.

To me, being compatible means the game operates like the developers intended.

jb143
04-22-2010, 10:50 PM
I think that the physical shape of some 3rd party Gamecube stuff makes it a bad fit. Someone on another forum mentioned having to literally wedge 3rd-party memory cards out with a knife. Have you tried it on a Gamecube?


It fits but doesn't work. I just figured it was broke but I did open it up and couldn't find anything wrong so I thought there could be a chance it was just incompatible. I don't have an actual Gamecube to test it on. I forget where I put it or I'd say what it is.

allyourblood
04-23-2010, 12:38 AM
It feels more natural playing games on their dedicated systems.

I have always thought this. Things like playing PS1 games on a PS3 really drive the point home, too. Barf. Emulators are right out, too. It just isn't the same.

kedawa
04-23-2010, 10:19 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Wii allow you to play any GC game in 480p, regardless of whether progressive scan was supported on GC or not?

allyourblood
04-23-2010, 11:35 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Wii allow you to play any GC game in 480p, regardless of whether progressive scan was supported on GC or not?

Unfortunately, no. Games that do not support 480p still run in 480i, even on the Wii.

AlphaGamer
04-23-2010, 03:52 PM
.........................

SPAZ-12
04-23-2010, 05:43 PM
I prefer playing GC titles on a GC rather than a Wii, because I find that the controls tend to lag on the Wii. For instance, in 007: Nightfire, I always set up the multiplayer matches in a very specific way. One the GC, I can use the D-pad and quickly select everything I want; on the Wii, I find that it takes longer and the input doesn't always register properly. It's barely perceptible, but it irritates me.

kedawa
04-25-2010, 04:02 AM
I don't think there is any input lag on the Wii.
If you are experiencing lag, it's probably because of your monitor.