What do you like in Genesis games?

[Urzu402]

1 Castlevania Bloodlines
2. Shinobi III
3. Mega Turrican
4 Gunstar Heroes
5. Hyperstone Heist
6. Contra Hard Corps.
7. Super Street Fighter 2
8. Streets of Rage 2
9. Strider's return
10. Rocket Knight Adventures

Is my top 10, I know my topic about not getting into Genesis games states that I don't like them becase of their large sprites but I don't think this is the case mainly because I like Rocket Knight Adventures. I bought Comix Zone to see if i would like it as well and I am currently waiting for it to come in the mail. So list what you look for in Genesis games and help me out by pointing out some similarities in my top 10 so i can find some Genesis games I truely like.

[understatement]

Top 50 Genesis games!!! (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1486)

[dnehthend]

growing up I hated the Genesis, the music and colors in almost every game always made me feel terrible

the only game I can really stand is Sonic 2

I'll probably use this thread to find something to try out

[Urzu402]

This thread is more supposed to help me find out what I like in Genesis games. I know the top 50 thread exists, I made this thread because I can't put into words what I like about certain Genesis games and I was hoping you people can help me find it.

[Smashed Brother]

Comix Zone is an amazing game, but it's also incredibly hard! You've been warned...

Since you seem to enjoy shooters/platformers, have you tried out Batman & Robin? It's a platformer that plays like a side-scrolling shooter and you can play 2-player cooperatively! It also has some of the most amazing graphics and music from the 16-bit era. In fact, it would probably put some PS1 side-scrollers to shame...it looks that good! But, it's also very difficult...at least initially.

I think that you would also like Alien Soldier...but just purchase a repro of it unless you enjoy buying $200 Genesis games.

[Urzu402]

I have Alien Soldier on my Wii VC, It looks like it would be could but i don't like how my weapons keep farting out on me when I use them.

[mobiusclimber]

Farting weapons are the best! Much better than lame-o gunblades.

[PresidentLeever]

Well, generally speaking I like:
The tight controls. The unique ideas and diversity. The darker tone in some games. The clarity in sound compared to many SNES/NES/C64 games. The high resolution for the time. And of course the speed.

I dislike:
The high contrast and overly saturated colors in many games. The short length of many games. The lack of action adventures / RPGs. How some games do a bad job of easing you into their mechanics (Comix Zone, Alien Soldier, most shooters). And how composers needed to make an extra effort to make the games sound good.


I would suggest to you to just play more games that people recommend (and reccomendations are not hard to find) and find out for yourself what you like about them.
You should already have a pretty good idea of what to expect from MD games from that top ten list of yours but you might want to try something more unique like Toejam & Earl, Ecco, Herzog Zwei or Bubba N Stix.

[Arkhan]

The thing that draws me into alot of genesis games, is very well done FM music.

Super Hylide for example, has a kick ass soundtrack.

As does Gaiares, and Rocket Knight Adventures.

But the other thing that really draws me in, are the graphics. They often have a soft, warm feel to them. its mostly due to dithering, etc...... but when you find a nicely done up genesis game, its better than any SNES game you will find.

Examples of that as far as I am concerned:

Lunar II, Ecco, Ristar, Ghouls and Ghosts.


Very warm looking graphics.

[Emperor Megas]

growing up I hated the Genesis, the music and colors in almost every game always made me feel terribleIt's always so bizarre to me when I read gamers who say that. It's hard for me to wrap my head around how a non-fanboy can actually feel that way about the majority of the Genesis library. Especially when they had no such complaints from NES games. BTW, I NOT saying that it's a fanboy statement -- it's just weird to me when people who aren't fanboys really feel/felt that way.

I thought that most of the music in Genesis games was fantastic.

[Urzu402]

What I have discovered I like:

Side Scrolling
Character Selection/Multiple Characters (only reason I have Castlevania Bloodlines above Shinobi III)
Action
And a certain thing I can't put into words that makes me enjoy these games more than Sonic or other games on the system like Blaster Master 2. this is what I am looking to explain It can't be nostalgia because I never grew up playing these games I was an SNES person I haven't played them until like the past year or so. It has to deal with the gameplay and how the game looks.

[Urzu402]

Anyone ever play a game called Mystic Defender? if so how is it? I ordered it for 14 cents lol, though the shipping was 3.99 you cant go wrong with getting a game for 4.13. It doesnt look too much like a game I would like but then again its only 4.13 :).

[Voliko]

Some of my favorite games are Shining Force I and II and Phantasy Star III and IV. Other than that, there aren't enough RPG's on the system...

I do love the Shinobi games and the nice exclusives such as Bloodlines and Rocket Knight Adventures.

Also, Streets of Rage is awesome.

[Emperor Megas]

Anyone ever play a game called Mystic Defender? if so how is it? I ordered it for 14 cents lol, though the shipping was 3.99 you cant go wrong with getting a game for 4.13. It doesnt look too much like a game I would like but then again its only 4.13 :).Man, I love that game. It was one of my first Genesis game purchases, and the first Genesis game I ever played (after Altered Beast which was the pack-in).

It's also worth noting that Mystic Defender is the Genesis version of the Megadrive game Kujakuo 2: Geneijo, which is based on the anime/manga Kujaku Ou. It's also the sequel to the SEGA Master System game SpellCaster. In the Megadrive version of Mystic Defender, Kujaku (the player) wears his priest's robe instead of armour. There are also two domestic versions of the game. In the original version, Alexandra (who's body is enveloped by a demon at the end of the final stage) is completely naked, in the alternate censored version she's wearing a tattered dress. I'm not sure if there's a way to tell which is which without playing through the entire game, which is extremely short, even by retro game standards.

[DigitalSpace]

Two words: Blast Processing. ;)

[mobiusclimber]

Some of my favorite games are Shining Force I and II and Phantasy Star III and IV. Other than that, there aren't enough RPG's on the system...

I do love the Shinobi games and the nice exclusives such as Bloodlines and Rocket Knight Adventures.

Also, Streets of Rage is awesome.

If you like RPGs the best ones on the system are:

Phantasy Star II-IV (III is the red-headed step-child)
Shining in the Darkness
Landstalker (ARPG)
Shining Force I & II (SRPG)
Shadowrun (ARPG)
D&D Warriors of the Eternal Sun
Might & Magic
Master of Monsters (SRPG)
Crusader of Centy (ARPG)
Beyond Oasis (ARPG)

[Urzu402]

1 Castlevania Bloodlines
2. Shinobi III
3. Mega Turrican
4 Gunstar Heroes
5. Hyperstone Heist
6. Contra Hard Corps.
7. Super Street Fighter 2
8. Comix Zone
9. Streets of Rage 2
10. Rocket Knight Adventures

Is my new top 10 I decided to keep Rocket Knight Adventures over Strider Returns. this is after i played Comix Zone.

[Smashed Brother]

Is my new top 10 I decided to keep Rocket Knight Adventures over Strider Returns. this is after i played Comix Zone.

Strider Returns is absolute balls. I regret ever owning that game...

Have you ever played Ranger-X? It's kinda short, but it's a pretty wild action/shooter with some pretty inventive levels. Look it up sometime!

[Urzu402]

Ranger X does look good maybe i will pick it up sometime.

[Emperor Megas]

Is my new top 10 I decided to keep Rocket Knight Adventures over Strider Returns. this is after i played Comix Zone.I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that they like Strider Returns before now.

[Urzu402]

Well it is the first Strider game I have played and owned, infact its the only Strider game I own. and I did enjoy it.

[csgx1]

Well it is the first Strider game I have played and owned, infact its the only Strider game I own. and I did enjoy it.

You might want to check out the original Strider on Genesis then. One of the best ports.

[Urzu402]

*Adds Strider to list

My list of games to get is now:

Ranger-X
Shadow Dancer
Strider
Batman & Robin
Sunset Riders
Dinosaurs for Hire

[Rickstilwell1]

I bet you would like Sunset Riders, although the SNES version is better. If you like sidescrolling shmups with a medium difficulty level I'd say Insector X is fun. Truxton is also a harder vertical scrolling shmup that I liked.

[Voliko]

If you like RPGs the best ones on the system are:

Phantasy Star II-IV (III is the red-headed step-child)
Shining in the Darkness
Landstalker (ARPG)
Shining Force I & II (SRPG)
Shadowrun (ARPG)
D&D Warriors of the Eternal Sun
Might & Magic
Master of Monsters (SRPG)
Crusader of Centy (ARPG)
Beyond Oasis (ARPG)

Why must everyone rag on Phantasy Star III? = (

[mobiusclimber]

Why must everyone rag on Phantasy Star III? = (

It isn't as good as the rest of the series? ;P I like it, but it's a bit bland, frankly. PSII had the best story, PSIV had the best system (with the vehicles, jobs, and battle engine)... only thing PSIII has going for it is the generational thing, and just isn't as cool or engaging as it should be. It's still a good RPG and worth playing, especially on a system starved for them, but it's practically Mystic Quest level. Not top tier at all.

[Urzu402]

I don't like Shmups very much, mainly because I suck at them both horizontal and vertical ones. I mainly like run & gun and sidescrolling platforming

[allyourblood]

I don't like Shmups very much, mainly because I suck at them both horizontal and vertical ones. I mainly like run & gun and sidescrolling platforming

I'm horrible at them and it's still one of my favorite genres.

[Urzu402]

Hmmm Sunset Riders looks good *adds to list
But why is it so darn expensive?

[Rickstilwell1]

I don't like Shmups very much, mainly because I suck at them both horizontal and vertical ones. I mainly like run & gun and sidescrolling platforming

The two other run & gun games I have are Robocop vs. Terminator and Dinosaurs for Hire. The Robocop one is definitely better but the Dinosaurs with guns idea is pretty funny.

[Urzu402]

Wow Dinosaurs for Hire looks pretty awesome, Dinosaurs with guns is one kick ass concept *adds to list.

Now about Robocop VS Terminator, I own the GB port and I Guess its good, I can see how a 16 bit version would be better. Not Sure on this one.

[Emperor Megas]

I bet you would like Sunset Riders, although the SNES version is better. If you like sidescrolling shmups with a medium difficulty level I'd say Insector X is fun. Truxton is also a harder vertical scrolling shmup that I liked.Insector X uses a really cheap tactic (that a lot of shooters use) to ramp up the difficulty. Once you've powered up so much, the game because harder because the enemies leave projectiles behind when they're destroyed. This wouldn't be an issue if there wasn't a stage later in the game where you have to fly down a narrow corridor that doesn't have any room to maneuver, and if you don't refrain from being powered up until that (late) point in the game, your fate is sealed -- at least for that life anyway, because you have to kill the enemies that appear in front of you in the corridor. That's my only real gripe which the game. Well, that and the bland static backgrounds with no parallax scrolling or animation or anything to spice them up a little.


Why must everyone rag on Phantasy Star III? = (Because it's weak. If it wasn't a Phantasy Star game it might get more of a pass, but since it is a Phantasy Star title it gets judged a lot harsher. It's like Silent Hill 4: The Room. Definitely the black sheep of the series.

[kupomogli]

PSIII. but it's practically Mystic Quest level. Not top tier at all.

But Mystic Quest is actually good.

[mobiusclimber]

But Mystic Quest is actually good.

PSIII is actually good too, but much like Mystic Quest doesn't hold up against FF3 or 4, PSIII doesn't hold up against PSII or IV.

[Arkhan]

I like both PSIII and Mystic Quest

F*** all the haters!

:D




Mystic Quest had some fun dungeons and music.

and PS3, man, that game was soothing.

[allyourblood]

PSIII is actually good too, but much like Mystic Quest doesn't hold up against FF3 or 4, PSIII doesn't hold up against PSII or IV.

Well, then let's drag Silent Hill 4 into this too, since Emperor mentioned earlier. Personally, I find that it doesn't fully qualify as a true Silent Hill entry, but on its own, it's a pretty good game. Just not 1, 2, or 3 good.

[pato]

I agree with the following games mentioned:

Ranger-X
Shadow Dancer
Strider
Batman & Robin
Sunset Riders

All brill games worth adding to your colection. Here are my games that I enjoy and are mostly exclusive to the Genesis library:

Alien 3: Different game from the SNES. I liked the atmoshpere in the game. It does mix action with exploration of the level. You basically go around saving prisoners while blasting the Aliens. When you do rescue all the prisoners, you must find the exit to the level. All of this within a time limit.

Alisia Dragoon: IMHO, an overlooked platformer/shooter. Fun game. I really enjoyed the art style and the music was quite good for the Genesis. The only thing problem being that it is a little more difficult to find as I don't believe it sold very well when first released.

Rambo 3: I'll say that it is a short game, but I enjoyed playing it. It mixes ups play styles a bit. Essentially you go around blowing stuff up and saving prisoners and such.

Dick Tracy: A side-scrolling Shooter. You can use your fist, gun or even a tommy gun to take out enemies in the background. Some people like this one, some people don't. I enjoyed it so I will say, check it out :)

Rolling Thunder Part 2 & 3: Part 2 was ported from the arcade and is a quite faithful to it's arcade counterpart. Part 3 was exclusive to the Genesis. A good run and gun series worth checking out.

Arcade ports with checking out:

Mercs: You can get this game on the Capcom Collection pack on the PS2 and Xbox. However, it does contain an "Orginal mode" exclusive to the Genesis version. Basically it is a whole new game. During the course of the game, you can save prisoners and then later choose to use them on the fly. So if you want to use the flamethrower guy, just pause the game and make the switch.

Two Crude Dudes: Arcade port made by the same people that made Bad Dudes (Data East). Only I thought this was better. Not only can you punch, kick and grab your adversaries, you can also pick up tons of different weapons and lots of parts of the environment to throw at them too.

Midnight Resistence: Run and Gun game made also by Data East (Arcade port). Basically like Contra.

Crackdown: Another good arcade port. It's a top view action game where you go around shooting things and difusing bombs within a time limit. The graphics are small, but I think this is good game worth checking out.

Worth mentioning, check out the Splatterhouse series on the Genesis (Parts 2 & 3). Part 3 is more like Final Fight with mulitple paths to get to the bosses. Also, if you liked Rocket Knight, check out it's sequel Sparkster.

Edit: Forgot to add ESWAT. It is based off of an older Sega Arcade game. However, this is an entirely different game. It is short though. You start out as a simple cop in uniform and then after completing the first 2 levels you put on a cool Robocop like suit in which you can pick up some more powerful weapons to blast the baddies. You can even hover around for a bit with your special suit. The last level in particular you must use this mechanic to make it to the end boss.

[Emperor Megas]

As pato touched on, Alisia Dragoon is a little known, often over looked title that's worth checking out. If you enjoy Mystic Defender, than you may enjoy Alisia Dragoon as well. They have a similar quick-select, charged magic attack system and a similar theme. Crack Down is also a pretty fun little title. I don't have the Genesis version, but I was a big fan of the original arcade game, and if the Genesis version is even half as good it's a worthwhile acquisition.

Also, all of the Genesis games I've played that were developed by Virgin Interactive (Cool Spot, Disney's Aladdin, and Mick and Mack as the Global Gladiators) have excellent graphic, animation and gameplay.

If you're something of an Anime fan you'll probably enjoy some of the Genesis titles released by Renovation. Most of the titles they developed and/or published have a distinctive Japanese game aesthetic that I really dug back in the day (and still do). Some interesting Reno titles are:

Elemental Master - Developed by TechoSoft, this game is the spiritual successor to Thunder Force III. It's a top down vertical scrolling shooter where you control a sorcerer who uses elemental magic (earth, fire, wind, water and light) to dispatch hordes of enemies in element themed stages which you select the order of. You start of with only rapid firing 'light' shots and gain a new elemental magic ability, unique to each boss that you defeat (not unlike Mega Man), until you've acquired all 5 powers, and proceed to the final stages which have a preselected order. You can fire both forward and behind you, and can switch freely between magics throughout the stage. Each elemental magic has a rapid firing attack mode and a devastating, unlimited, secondary charge attack function.

IIRC, one of the boss villains, Salome, has laughable huge boobs in the cut scenes. I'm not sure why I remember that so vividly or felt it worth mentioning. ^^;

Final Zone - An isometric mecha shooter where you advance from stage to stage across war ravaged landscape. You have a set amount of enemies to destroy each stage, followed by a boss encounter. It's not a spectacular title by any account, but it has a moody, ambient soundtrack that I love, and the game sports a very cool and unique weapon system where each of your many stock weapons (which are gained by defeating random item droids) also double as shield units. So every time you take damage, you lose one or two reserve weapons. This makes you plan out which weapons you set as low teir, since they'll be the first you'll lose when you take damage. Also, each weapon that you collect has 2 different attack configurations depending on if it's set as a primary or a secondary weapon. Most of the fun is discovering how each weapon performs in primary and secondary mode, and learning which are worth using in either mode and which are garbage. I wish other games used Final Zone's weapon/shield system.

It's also worth noting that the sequel, Final Zone II, is one of the most unintentionally hilarious titles in the Turbo Grafx CD library, due to its EPIC dialog and delayed deadpan delivery. You can never unlearn such gems as "Let me show them some fancy action, NOOOOW", and "If you hate me SOOO much...shoot me...with your gun". Believe me, your life will me all the more fulfilled for having experienced it.

Gaiares - One of the best shoot 'em ups on the system, and of all time, IMO. Excellent music, gorgeous and imaginative enemies and level designs with multiple paths, and an extremely fun and satisfying weapons upgrading system. You command an indestructible R-type'eque option called the TOZ to shield you from enemy fire and to capture/learn weapons from virtually any emeny on the game, including bosses, which are mostly screen sized, and beautifully detailed. The are over 20 unique weapons to capture and upgrade, and like many of the Telenet/Renovation games the story is bookmarked by cool little Anime cinema scenes. The game is said to be notoriously difficult, though I have little trouble completing it on a single life, and it always feels satisfying every play through.

The Valis series (Valis, Syd of Valis, Valis III) - One of my favorite action platforming series'. You play as a Japanese school girl name Yuko who discovers that she's the daughter of an otherworldly queen of the Dream World, Vecanti, which is under attack by creatures from the alternate Spirit World. You use a magical sword called the Sword of Valis (pronounced Varis) to hack and slash your way though several levels of freaky Anime style demons and boss creatures. I say hack and slash, but the sword also uses projectile attacks (homing beam, wide shot, etc.), which are upgradable. Valis is the culmination of nearly every stereotype you've come to expect from a late 80 early 90's era magical girl type Anime. A sword wielding magic using heroine from another world, fighting demons in a school girl's uniform and skimpy armour designed to titillate onlookers more than protect the wearer (it's no surprise the series was resurrected as a hentai game for the PC, years later). My handle and avatar pic are of the boss enemy from the second installment of the series. The Genesis version of Valis II is actually a quirky, Super Deformed version of the game called Syd of Valis (or the more aptly named SD Valis for the Megadrive). While I dig it, you might want to skip that one.

A few others Renovation titles worth checking out are:

Arcus Odyssey - Top down action game
El Viento - Action platformer
Granada - Top down tank shooter
Sol-Deace - Side scrolling shoot 'em up

Target Earth isn't a Reno title, but it's another one of those early Anime influenced games that borrows HEAVILY from the Macross series. It's actually more like Macross than most of the Macross games I've played. It's a mecha shooter with a mix of platforming levels and zero gravity space stages. You start off armed with a standard rapid firing vulcan cannon, but you're rewarded additional weapons and gear at the end of every stage based on your score/performance, and you get to outfit your mech with whatever weapons and armaments you like at the begging of each stage after you've been briefed with the details of the upcoming mission. You can only equip so many items at a time though, which adds a strategic element to the already awesome game play. Another cool thing about the game is that you're not going it alone. Almost every stage is a full-on battle with several friendly units engaging the enemy independently. They don't really do enough fighting to help your progress along, but it still adds a lot of drama to the game, since your comrades are getting blown away all around you as the battles rage. You'll find yourself defending and taking fire for them a lot of times, even when it's not required. Some of Target Earth's outer space battles were pretty epic considering it was one of the Genesis' early titles, and it's one of the few games ever made where escort missions don't suck.

[Emperor Megas]

Herzog Zwei is pretty awesome too. It's probably the first Real Time Strategy game I've ever played.

[TheObscure]

i dink dat duh graffix r duh bes ding aboot genesis dey r so orgasm

[Urzu402]

I agree with the following games mentioned:

Ranger-X
Shadow Dancer
Strider
Batman & Robin
Sunset Riders

All brill games worth adding to your colection. Here are my games that I enjoy and are mostly exclusive to the Genesis library:

Alien 3: Different game from the SNES. I liked the atmoshpere in the game. It does mix action with exploration of the level. You basically go around saving prisoners while blasting the Aliens. When you do rescue all the prisoners, you must find the exit to the level. All of this within a time limit.

Alisia Dragoon: IMHO, an overlooked platformer/shooter. Fun game. I really enjoyed the art style and the music was quite good for the Genesis. The only thing problem being that it is a little more difficult to find as I don't believe it sold very well when first released.

Rambo 3: I'll say that it is a short game, but I enjoyed playing it. It mixes ups play styles a bit. Essentially you go around blowing stuff up and saving prisoners and such.

Dick Tracy: A side-scrolling Shooter. You can use your fist, gun or even a tommy gun to take out enemies in the background. Some people like this one, some people don't. I enjoyed it so I will say, check it out :)

Rolling Thunder Part 2 & 3: Part 2 was ported from the arcade and is a quite faithful to it's arcade counterpart. Part 3 was exclusive to the Genesis. A good run and gun series worth checking out.

Arcade ports with checking out:

Mercs: You can get this game on the Capcom Collection pack on the PS2 and Xbox. However, it does contain an "Orginal mode" exclusive to the Genesis version. Basically it is a whole new game. During the course of the game, you can save prisoners and then later choose to use them on the fly. So if you want to use the flamethrower guy, just pause the game and make the switch.

Two Crude Dudes: Arcade port made by the same people that made Bad Dudes (Data East). Only I thought this was better. Not only can you punch, kick and grab your adversaries, you can also pick up tons of different weapons and lots of parts of the environment to throw at them too.

Midnight Resistence: Run and Gun game made also by Data East (Arcade port). Basically like Contra.

Crackdown: Another good arcade port. It's a top view action game where you go around shooting things and difusing bombs within a time limit. The graphics are small, but I think this is good game worth checking out.

Worth mentioning, check out the Splatterhouse series on the Genesis (Parts 2 & 3). Part 3 is more like Final Fight with mulitple paths to get to the bosses. Also, if you liked Rocket Knight, check out it's sequel Sparkster.

Edit: Forgot to add ESWAT. It is based off of an older Sega Arcade game. However, this is an entirely different game. It is short though. You start out as a simple cop in uniform and then after completing the first 2 levels you put on a cool Robocop like suit in which you can pick up some more powerful weapons to blast the baddies. You can even hover around for a bit with your special suit. The last level in particular you must use this mechanic to make it to the end boss.

I'm going to look at all the games you posted like the first levels and say what I think:

Alien 3
looks ok but looks frustrating, but it could be because the person I watched play it sucks though.

Alisia Dragoon
Also looks ok looks to be similar to Mystic Defender but with better graphics and Dragons! with a lead Character that is female.

Rambo 3
No don't look like ill like it, I hate top down shooters.

Dick Tracy
This looks ok, not as good as Alien 3 or Alisia Dragoon though mainly because it looks like Dick moves to slow and the lack of platforming.

Rolling Thunder 2
Looks to be decent though the lack of serious platforming though makes it lose points.

Rolling Thunder 3
Is obviously Similar to Rolling Thunder 3 but lacks that serious platforming that I like I mean like pit falls and spikes.

Mercs
Don't like the top down.

Two Crude Dudes
Beat'em up not a shooter, but i also like beat'em ups or looks ok.

Midnight Resistance
Looks really good.

Crackdown
Sorry again i dont like the top down view.

Splatterhouse games
They look interesting but I dont know about them.

Sparkster
Looks good.

ESWAT
also looks good.

[Urzu402]

Lets see I'm only going to have like 50 dollars all these games man I dont know what to get now :( though I definitely want Dinosaurs for Hire due to the sheer awesomeness of its concept.

[Urzu402]

Sorry to post so many times in a row, but I also need a Sega Genesis model 2 :(
and again Ill only have 50 dollars to spend What should I do?

[allyourblood]

Sorry to post so many times in a row, but I also need a Sega Genesis model 2 :(
and again Ill only have 50 dollars to spend What should I do?

Get more money or expect less things.

[Urzu402]

I don't expect to get everything in this topic right away, I'm just wondering what games I should get first.

[gum_drops]

I don't expect to get everything in this topic right away, I'm just wondering what games I should get first.

I recommend playing some genesis games on your pc via emulation so you have an idea of what the gameplay is like instead of just basing it on videos. That will give you a clear idea of which games you really want to play right now.

I recently did that with the NES. I wanted to start collecting CIB nes games but only specific titles that I had an interest in playing. So I played through the entire nes library using an emulator on my pc and created a wanted list.

[Urzu402]

I'm not into emulation. I don't like it. but I'm not going to bother people who do it.

[bartre]

hmm.
I'd suggest Robocop vs. Terminator, Strider, Dinosaurs for Hire, and Forgotten worlds as must haves.

no one else mentioned it, so Forgotten worlds is a side-scrolling shmup.
the thing is, you're not actually piloting a ship, you're a dude with a gun and a jetpack.
b button to shoot, and the a and c buttons rotate you.
it's a little different, and the only US home port of it that i know of, and it was actually really well done.

[Emperor Megas]

no one else mentioned it, so Forgotten worlds is a side-scrolling shmup.
the thing is, you're not actually piloting a ship, you're a dude with a gun and a jetpack.
b button to shoot, and the a and c buttons rotate you.You don't have jet packs in Forgotten Worlds, the heroes use magical "flying stones". You start the game with a standard one, but you can upgrade or downgrade your flying stones in any of the shops that appear through out the game.


it's a little different, and the only US home port of it that i know of, and it was actually really well done.It's also available for the Turbo Grafx CD.

[goldenegg]

This thread is more supposed to help me find out what I like in Genesis games. I know the top 50 thread exists, I made this thread because I can't put into words what I like about certain Genesis games and I was hoping you people can help me find it.

Sega has always had a focus on arcade gaming. I'm not only talking about ports of arcade games. I'm talking about the special type of gameplay experience you'd normally find in arcade titles. That experience was brought to many exclusive titles for the system. There are obviously exceptions to this rule (such as sports and RPG titles), but I'm willing to bet that will explain what you feel is different about Sega games.

[Rickstilwell1]

Sega has always had a focus on arcade gaming. I'm not only talking about ports of arcade games. I'm talking about the special type of gameplay experience you'd normally find in arcade titles. That experience was brought to many exclusive titles for the system. There are obviously exceptions to this rule (such as sports and RPG titles), but I'm willing to bet that will explain what you feel is different about Sega games.

And this is also true of the Sega Master System, Sega Saturn and Sega Dreamcast. The four major home consoles all had that focus. The Genesis 6-button and Saturn controllers seem to get a lot of praise for their arcade style button layout too.

[goldenegg]

And this is also true of the Sega Master System, Sega Saturn and Sega Dreamcast. The four major home consoles all had that focus. The Genesis 6-button and Saturn controllers seem to get a lot of praise for their arcade style button layout too.

The Saturn controller is still my favorite gamepad to this day. The licensed USB pads are awesome for emulators AND playing fighting games on the PS3 :)

[Urzu402]

I Like Mystic Defender, though that fire weapon is a real pain in the ass to use.

[BetaWolf47]

Urzu, I feel the same way about you about Genesis. Growing up on other systems such as NES and SNES, Genesis is really hard to get into. The FM music makes everything sound like a low bitrate techno remix of what it's supposed to be. Graphics are really dark compared to SNES.

That said, you probably just need a breakthrough game. In other words, one killer app to break you into the system, having good gameplay that makes you forget about all of the system flaws. By the time you finish the game, you're used to the unique style of the games.

[DreadIsReal]

If you are looking for great platforming, the Mickey Mouse games are great. Castle of Illusion, World of Illusion, The Great Circus Mystery and so on. Seriously, check them out.

[carlcarlson]

If you are looking for great platforming, the Mickey Mouse games are great. Castle of Illusion, World of Illusion, The Great Circus Mystery and so on. Seriously, check them out.

Yeah, Mickey Mania was a favorite when I was younger.

For more great platforming check out ToeJam & Earl: Panic on Funkotron. It's best with a second player, but it's still a blast by yourself. The graphics, sound, and control are all top-notch.

It is actually a sequel. The first game is amazing too (my favorite Genesis game actually), but they are nothing alike. It's hard to explain what the first one is like, so just check Youtube. Again, it is the best when played with another person.

[Urzu402]

Urzu, I feel the same way about you about Genesis. Growing up on other systems such as NES and SNES, Genesis is really hard to get into. The FM music makes everything sound like a low bitrate techno remix of what it's supposed to be. Graphics are really dark compared to SNES.

That said, you probably just need a breakthrough game. In other words, one killer app to break you into the system, having good gameplay that makes you forget about all of the system flaws. By the time you finish the game, you're used to the unique style of the games.

Castlevania Bloodlines is what made me appreciate the Genesis, before that, I just conisidered it that other 16 bit system. So Basically Castlevania Bloodlines was the killer app for me. Now my Genesis collection is going to rival my SNES and NES collection in size (Mostly sports games though).

[DreadIsReal]

Yeah, Mickey Mania was a favorite when I was younger.

For more great platforming check out ToeJam & Earl: Panic on Funkotron. It's best with a second player, but it's still a blast by yourself. The graphics, sound, and control are all top-notch.

It is actually a sequel. The first game is amazing too (my favorite Genesis game actually), but they are nothing alike. It's hard to explain what the first one is like, so just check Youtube. Again, it is the best when played with another person.

Yeah def. ToeJam and Earl. Both games are fun. Also Earthworm Jim. All are hilarious as well. Chiki Chiki Boys is a great game too. As is Decap Attack. I'm going to stop I could go on for days. The best thing is none of these games are too expensive either.

[Urzu402]

Yeah def. ToeJam and Earl. Both games are fun. Also Earthworm Jim. All are hilarious as well. Chiki Chiki Boys is a great game too. As is Decap Attack. I'm going to stop I could go on for days. The best thing is none of these games are too expensive either.

Yea that's one thing the Genesis has good cheap games, as opposed to the SNES where everyone is putting their prices up because the SNES was more popular.

[BetaWolf47]

If you are looking for great platforming, the Mickey Mouse games are great. Castle of Illusion, World of Illusion, The Great Circus Mystery and so on. Seriously, check them out.

I actually don't like World of Illusion that much. It feels so unnatural compared to the other games. There's jumps that you can just barely make, as well as the attack being more delayed than Simon's whip.

Castle of Illusion is a game I need to track down, both the 8-bit and 16-bit version. Can't go wrong with Quackshot or the Capcom titles though.

About Earthworm Jim, can anyone tell me why the voice samples on that game sound so much better than on other Genesis titles?

[Eyedunno]

I also intend to get a few Genesis games soon. I actually already got Death Duel, not because it's a good game, but because it left an impression on me when I was 13. :P

First I have to get a console to play it on though (I'm more and more thinking model 1 would be better if only because I can swap with my Super Famicom AC adapter).

Then the games that interest me at this point are Decap Attack (loved it as a kid, and it's still one of very few heavily localized games where I prefer the look of the US version), the first couple Sonic games (especially the first, actually), the Earthworm Jim games, The Lost Vikings, and Phantasy Star IV.

Thing is, while I feel less strongly drawn to imports than with PC Engine and Super Famicom (let's face it, America was the Genesis' prime market), I would still prefer to have the Japanese Phantasy Star IV. What would I need to play it on a US Genesis?

[Urzu402]

I think Game Genies work as region converters. but you may need to enter some codes if the game has lock-out which I am not sure if Phantasy Star IV has.

[BetaWolf47]

I know the US version of Phantasy Star IV does.

[bartre]

hey, if you get the model 1 genesis, it's super easy to do a region switch mod to it.
took me 10 minutes from opening to closing to make.
all you need is some wire, 2 switches, and a file to make it universal.

[Urzu402]

For the SNES I tend to like RPGs and Top down adventure games like Zelda. But on the Genesis I tend to like side-side scrolling platforming/run and gun or hack n slash type games. So the types of games I like on both consoles are different. I do like side scrollers on the SNES but they aren't my main focus.

[Urzu402]

1 Castlevania Bloodlines
2. Shinobi III
3. Mega Turrican
4 Gunstar Heroes
5. Hyperstone Heist
6. Contra Hard Corps.
7. Super Street Fighter 2
8. Comix Zone
9. Streets of Rage
10. Rocket Knight Adventures
11. Streets of Rage 2
12. Mystic Defender
13. Cool Spot
14. Strider Returns


My New top Genesis games, if I like Streets of Rage 1 more than Streets of Rage 2, how will I feel about Streets of Rage 3?

[Urzu402]

Sorry to bump my old thread and posting multiple times in a row. But I got Dinosaurs for Hire and I Like it, I also played some of the games on the 6-Pak that I have and I like Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, and Revenge of Shinobi on it. This is weird because before I was dead certain that I hated Golden Axe. Also are there any differences between the 6-Pak and the original games gameplay wise? Also will I like Golden Axe 2?

[sixwayshot]

I love my Genesis. Technically, I didn't grow up with a Genesis (Got one in fifth grade, so I guess I kinda did...), but I still love the console.

My favorite games are:

Rocket Knight Adventures
Golden Axe
Mercs
Contra: Hard Corps (It's frustratingly hard, though)
Vectorman
Street Fighter II: Champion Edition

Also, there shouldn't be any difference between the 6-Pak games and the regular ones.

[bartre]

Sorry to bump my old thread and posting multiple times in a row. But I got Dinosaurs for Hire and I Like it, I also played some of the games on the 6-Pak that I have and I like Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, and Revenge of Shinobi on it. This is weird because before I was dead certain that I hated Golden Axe. Also are there any differences between the 6-Pak and the original games gameplay wise? Also will I like Golden Axe 2?

the only differences i can think of would be in Revenge of Shinobi.
i'm pretty sure it's all just graphical stuff, but a couple bosses change in some versions, ex: spider-man is a boss in one version.

[Urzu402]

Just got Rolling Thunder 2, my only gripe with it is that you die from getting shot once! Sure its like real life, but this is a game, a side scrolling game no less. You should not even have that health bar if getting shot once kills you!

[Icarus Moonsight]

If you like Mystic Defender then Jewel Master is going to be right up your alley.

[Smashed Brother]

Just got Rolling Thunder 2, my only gripe with it is that you die from getting shot once! Sure its like real life, but this is a game, a side scrolling game no less. You should not even have that health bar if getting shot once kills you!

You can't really play RT2 like a 'regular' side-scroller, though. It's methodically-paced; you're constantly ducking behind crates and doors to avoid gunfire and waiting for your opportunity to attack. The limited ammo supply only drives this mechanic further.

It's a great game once you get used to it, and playing through the game with a friend makes it even better. Especially when you come up with new ways to cover each others' back while making your way through the levels! Too bad they dropped the 2-player support with the third game.

[TheDomesticInstitution]

Drinkability.

[Urzu402]

You can't really play RT2 like a 'regular' side-scroller, though. It's methodically-paced; you're constantly ducking behind crates and doors to avoid gunfire and waiting for your opportunity to attack. The limited ammo supply only drives this mechanic further.

It's a great game once you get used to it, and playing through the game with a friend makes it even better. Especially when you come up with new ways to cover each others' back while making your way through the levels! Too bad they dropped the 2-player support with the third game.

I actually like the game now, you're right. I shouldn't have just tried to run through the stage as fast as possible but to duck and dodge and stuff. If I made a top 20 list of my favorite Genesis games it would be on it. In fact I do now have a top 20 list of my favorite Genesis games if anyone is interested in it.

[UnpluggedClone]

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