Ghouls 'N Ghosts - Genesis vs. Super Grafx

[Nintega Grafx-16]

I love that game. Everyone here knows GnG is a classic but no one knows about the Super Grafx version outside of the internet. This is my list of pros and cons for both versions.

Genesis:

+ Cheap
+ Better music
+ Diagonal controls
- Graphics aren't special

Super Grafx:

+ Graphics more true to the arcade version
- Music takes a hit
- Super expensive
- The system is expensive
- The system also has five games

Verdict: GENESIS

[Leo_A]

No one knows it but the internet?

[ConsoleAddict]

What about Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts on the SNES? I know the game is different from the Genesis and Super Grafx versions but how does it stack up with them?

[Nintega Grafx-16]

What about Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts on the SNES? I know the game is different from the Genesis and Super Grafx versions but how does it stack up with them?

It is not even comparable since it is the sequel.

[NE146]

I love that game. Everyone here knows GnG is a classic but no one knows about the Super Grafx version outside of the internet.

I thought everyone knew the Super Grafx version from EGM magzine pre-internet. :p

[WoodyXP]

but no one knows about the Super Grafx version outside of the internet.

LOL LOL LOL

[Gameguy]

What about the Sega Master System version? Is that any decent? All I have is the Genesis version, I haven't played any other version to compare it to.

[Nintega Grafx-16]

What about the Sega Master System version? Is that any decent? All I have is the Genesis version, I haven't played any other version to compare it to.

The Master System version is as much of a joke as the Super Grafx version IMHO.

[T2KFreeker]

The Master System version is as much of a joke as the Super Grafx version IMHO.

I guess none knew about your Honest opinion except those on the internet.

Now, onto a real statement about the Master System version outside if generalized who knows what that was supposed to be. The Master System version of Ghouls 'N Ghosts is actually not too bad. It's not as graphically intense as the Genesis and Super Grafx versions, but it does play well and has it's own strong points as well. I actually like the controls quite well and the frame rate is very nice as well, especially for it being a Master System game. One of the nicer ports to the system, to be honest.

The Supergrafx version is nice also for what it is. It is expensive and it is for a very rare system, but if you have the ability and money to pick it up, it actually is a prettu nice port. I am assuming that most of the people here have played the Genesis version of the game, so I'm not going into it. Seriously, all three versions are worth picking up depending on what console platform you own.

Oh, and Super GNG was INSANE! Excellent game again worth picking up. Word!

[Blur2040]

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[staxx]

Wonderswan
C64
Amiga
Atari ST
ZX Spectrum
Amstrad CPC
Sharp X68000 (best port)

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

Wonderswan
C64
Amiga
Atari ST
ZX Spectrum
Amstrad CPC
Sharp X68000 (best port)

Its on different compilation disc from Ps1/Saturn on up also.

[nectarsis]

Funny neither the game, nor the Supergrafx itself is rare, or expensive. Supergrafx's can be nabbed for $100+ loose, $200 or less boxed regularly. Yes pricier than many older consoles, but there are nowhere near as many out there but hardly rare. I guess $30-50 complete is BIG $ for the game to.

[T2KFreeker]

Funny neither the game, nor the Supergrafx itself is rare, or expensive. Supergrafx's can be nabbed for $100+ loose, $200 or less boxed regularly. Yes pricier than many older consoles, but there are nowhere near as many out there but hardly rare. I guess $30-50 complete is BIG $ for the game to.
Remember, I guess that only people on the Internet would know that too.

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

Funny neither the game, nor the Supergrafx itself is rare, or expensive. Supergrafx's can be nabbed for $100+ loose, $200 or less boxed regularly. Yes pricier than many older consoles, but there are nowhere near as many out there but hardly rare. I guess $30-50 complete is BIG $ for the game to.

The prices are enough to break the bank on some peoples wallets. Given that, it is probably a good thing, as it helps separate the average game player from the more seriously dedicated one who intends to collect and play both. A serious collector is more likely to keep it for the long run as a investment, and take care of the system and games. The average game player would buy one for the intention of trying it, maybe treating it badly, then passing it off on someone else like a common Genesis deck and cart in order to get more stuff to play for the next 3 weeks.

As far as prices go, my Supergrafx ran me around $110. Dai Makaimura ran me about $35 maybe for a complete copy. The Genesis one may be cheap, but it also got curb stomped by the Supergrafx port, and not just in reference to the game itself. The packaging of the Supergrafx port destroys the packaging of the Genesis and MegaDrive ports. You get what you pay for. The SuperGrafx and its few wonderful games are not for the common man.

This thread subject has seriously been done to death on multiple forums. Do threads covering the Supergrafx and its content like this get started half the time then for any other reason then for people who cant afford to buy one to resort to bitching about how much they hate it? Seriously, not like one of these "I cant afford it, its rare, it sucks" haters who collects Turbografx and Pc-Engine stuff wouldn't shit their pants in joy if someone gave them a deck with all the titles released for it as a xmas gift. We know you would. Do we blame you? No. Why do you think we own the damn thing to begin with? To brag constantly? Possibly. You think we don't actually play the thing? I play mine often. Do you think I'll be sneaking one under your xmas tree for Christmas like Santa? Not likely. And if you still believe in Santa, you're a pussy.

[Baloo]

Funny neither the game, nor the Supergrafx itself is rare, or expensive. Supergrafx's can be nabbed for $100+ loose, $200 or less boxed regularly. Yes pricier than many older consoles, but there are nowhere near as many out there but hardly rare. I guess $30-50 complete is BIG $ for the game to.

You don't think that's expensive? Shit, you must be rich. Last time I checked anything over about $30 in the classic video game pricing was considered expensive no?

[JimmyDean]

He is right. Compared to some rarer consoles, the Super Grafx is relatively cheap. Notice how I say "relatively" as, generally speaking, 100$ is not cheap to me, nor the retro game community. (unless you can afford to blow 20k on a gold NWC...)

[nectarsis]

You don't think that's expensive? Shit, you must be rich. Last time I checked anything over about $30 in the classic video game pricing was considered expensive no?


All depends on the system/rarity/condition.

Comparing a system with 5 games, and the system died a fairly quick death vs say the Genesis that sold millions of systems (games also having much higher print runs generally) is kind of skewed no? Of course a game on one system that's $5 on the huge selling system, and $50 on the one that didn't last near as long/sell 1/100 as many systems just kinda makes sense (obviously not a rule).

I never said it was OMGZ cheap, but nowhere near this RARE SUPER EXPENSIVE nonsense. This "you must be rich", PC Engine "family" is sooooo expensive to get into is frankly overdone, and highly misinformed.

[tomaitheous]

You don't think that's expensive? Shit, you must be rich. Last time I checked anything over about $30 in the classic video game pricing was considered expensive no?

Hah! No, That's not expensive. You must just be used to cheap games or something. $30 for a complete SGX GnG game is cheap. I remember when they (the games) used to go for $100-150 (GnG and 1941 would often go for that price about 8 years ago). I paid $100 + shipping for my second (loose) SGX. Definitely not expensive, nor was I rich in any way conceivable. Most people even with a shitty job can save up that much in a month, easily. A lot of PCE CD games were in the $35-50 range each, over the past few years. Saturn games go for around that much too. I don't consider that expensive either. I've seen 100% complete PC-Engine Duos go for $500-600. Hell, Hudson purchased a sealed on for $1000 a couple of years back (they were showing it off on their site). Kind of funny that Hudson of all people had to buy their own system :D

Anyway, isn't the thread about one port of a game VS another port? If so, what does this: "- The system also has five games" have to do with anything? Why is it on the list? >_>

[Zap!]

You don't think that's expensive? Shit, you must be rich. Last time I checked anything over about $30 in the classic video game pricing was considered expensive no?

I don't either. I want an Entex Adventurevision. I wish that was $200. Hell, I can't even find it on eBay, at least the Super Grafx always shows up. :)

[Arkhan]

30$ aint expensive.

Also, I think the VS comparison of this is sort of moot.

Alot of it comes down to preference.

I prefer the SGFX music because I like that style more than FM.

I don't care if the Genesis one is closer to the arcade music.

both versions of the game are perfectly nice.

[Nintega Grafx-16]

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The prices are enough to break the bank on some peoples wallets. Given that, it is probably a good thing, as it helps separate the average game player from the more seriously dedicated one who intends to collect and play both.

I smell an elitest. You know the kinds of douches who think they are holier than thou just because they have something that most people don't have?

Now for the pricing controversy....



I guess $30-50 complete is BIG $ for the game to.

O RLY?

Daimakaimura on ebay, $100 (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Daimakaimura-Nec-Super-GrafX-Japanese-/300366055152?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item45ef3646f0)


As far as prices go, my Supergrafx ran me around $110. Dai Makaimura ran me about $35 maybe for a complete copy.

Super Grafx on ebay, $200 (http://cgi.ebay.com/BOXED-IMPORT-PC-Engine-Super-Grafx-Console-Battle-Ace-/230448591918?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35a7ce742e)

$110 and $30-50 my ass. Stop lying to people about the prices of games and consoles. BOTH OF YOU. That is a form of trolling you know.

[tomaitheous]

O RLY?

Daimakaimura on ebay, $100 (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Daimakaimura-Nec-Super-GrafX-Japanese-/300366055152?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item45ef3646f0)


Uhm...

New, sealed, never opened, flawless condition

What do you expect for that kind of condition? Sorry, you Fail.



$110 and $30-50 my ass. Stop lying to people about the prices of games and consoles. BOTH OF YOU. That is a form of trolling you know.

How is that trolling? And maybe you fail at shopping around. I recently bought a loose copy of GnG from Bookmans for $5 a few months back. I went online to look at current prices and GnG was indeed going for $30-50 *complete*. I see you also failed to answer my question as to why the SGX listed as only having 5 games is relevant to comparing two games. Can't form an answer for that or what?

[Nintega Grafx-16]

I see you also failed to answer my question as to why the SGX listed as only having 5 games is relevant to comparing two games. Can't form an answer for that or what?

Because the Super Grafx is a huge rip off. Anyone could get a PCE Duo-R/RX for the same price the system currently goes for.

[tomaitheous]

Because the Super Grafx is a huge rip off.

Again,... (sigh) I said what does the SGX *only* having 5 games *have* to do with a comparison between two game ports? Please give a valid reason. You're comparing games, not systems.

[kupomogli]

(unless you can afford to blow 20k on a gold NWC...)

I can afford to blow 20k on a game. Then I would have no more money. :P

[Nintega Grafx-16]

Again,... (sigh) I said what does the SGX *only* having 5 games *have* to do with a comparison between two game ports? Please give a valid reason. You're comparing games, not systems.

That comment was just for the many people on this forum who have never heard of the SGX. I had to let people know how many games it has or else these poor people, who would actually be brave enough to go out of their way to buy a SGX, will be getting a strong case of buyer's remorse.

[WoodyXP]

I had to let people know how many games it has or else these poor people, who would actually be brave enough to go out of their way to buy a SGX, will be getting a strong case of buyer's remorse.

That's for looking out. I was about to ride my horse across the country to see one of these SGX systems I found on Craig's list. I think I'll stick with the Genesis version.

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

Now this really has become a interesting thread. Dave, congrats, its worthy of un-ignoring a couple post of yours.



The prices are enough to break the bank on some peoples wallets. Given that, it is probably a good thing, as it helps separate the average game player from the more seriously dedicated one who intends to collect and play both.

I smell an elitest. You know the kinds of douches who think they are holier than thou just because they have something that most people don't have?

If you really think that high of me, thanks. In reality though, all I said was its better that things like that occur so the rarer systems wont go to waste on people who don't really want them, so they can avoid abuse, and possibly avoid being stuck in a endless cycle of being bought and traded back in at soem random game store. But you read into it what you will sport. You know though, I really got to say, I'd think the "The true PC Engine guru/demon lord" would have a working Duo, briefcase unit, Supergrafx/ Super CD-Rom 2 system, and at least a decent sized library of games. Is everything about you a total bust?





Now for the pricing controversy....
$110 and $30-50 my ass. Stop lying to people about the prices of games and consoles. BOTH OF YOU. That is a form of trolling you know.

Right now, not as many have been up for normal auction, so I cant really get a nice set list of ended auction prices on Supergrafx related stuff. But anyway:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-Engine-Super-Grafx-Boxed-100-working-5-games-/290434515513?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games&hash=item439f3f0239
end price? $99.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-Engine-Super-Grafx-Console-Aldynes-Daimakaimura-/330424207924?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ceed14a34
end price? $250.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/Daimakaimura-Super-Grafx-Pc-Engine-Import-Japan-/270573529190?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Vintage_Video_Games&hash=item3eff706866
end price? $49.99
http://cgi.ebay.com/Aldynes-BRAND-NEW-PC-ENGINE-SUPER-GRAFX-/270479674131?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Vintage_Video_Games&hash=item3ef9d84b13
end price? $103.20
http://cgi.ebay.com/MADO-KING-GRANZORT-PC-ENGINE-SUPER-GRAFX-New-/300390792530?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item45f0afbd52
end price? $49.99
http://cgi.ebay.com/IMPORT-PC-Engine-Super-Grafx-HuCard-1941-COUNTER-ATTACK-/230463297960?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Vintage_Video_Games&hash=item35a8aed9a8
end price? $149.99
http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-Engine-SUPER-GRAFX-Console-Boxed-0587-FREE-SHIP-/300428487804?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f2eeec7c
end price? $175.00 In regards to this seller, Hit-Japan, he has a nice policy when buying systems.
"We will not charge extra shipping fee for up to 20 CD games." I have done this with them before a couple of times on system orders. I am not going to even begin to tell you how much you will save on shipping due to this. Just to state, its a very awesome policy.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battle-Ace-PC-Engine-Super-Grafx-import-NEW-/250622712163?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item3a5a471963
end price? $24.99

Obviously ebay is not the only source to buy Supergrafx related stuff either. But you burned about all your bridges long ago Dave in regards to getting leads to other sources for cheaper prices. And, you have done this thread before basically. This really has very little to do with a Ghouls n Ghost compare, and more to do with you just bitching about prices you cant afford. You offered no visual or audio proof, or videos to back up your argument on the compare. You dont even own the Supergrafx system or game, so you cant even comment on its control on there. Same with the visuals and audio, not really fair to judge with just a emu as your only source. You really have no leg to stand on when making your argument on the Genesis versions behalf, and really, no business doing it either.

I believe you used to call this thread type the "Why is Y's 3 on Turbo Cd so expensive" thread. Something like the price of the system, and really even the game, should not be used to compare the actual quality of the given ports. You didn't really start this thread for any other reason then to troll, bitch, and remind the world how poor you are, like its any of our business. We really don't want to know, nor do we care what your financial status is in regards to affording rare game items.

You like to go around passing yourself off as a hard core game collector and player, but it seems this rep you are trying to maintain both on forums and youtube well exceeds your will and wallets actual ability in most cases. And due to that, you knock a lot of people who actually do have the ability to walk the walk, I guess out of jealousy. Also, and I mean, we already know that your photobucket account name is FlamingDave, and that you had dressed in drag prior, so you dont have to keep reminding us of your sexuality preferences on this mostly male populated forum. Honestly man, its not necessary.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Amakusa666/uptheirasses.png
Its cool and all that you swing that way, bi, gay, gay for pay, whatever. Got no problem with that. Its simply not our business is all, and we wish you wouldn't go around advertising it so heavily.

[josekortez]

I choose Genesis over the other versions since it's easy enough for me to get pretty far into the game.

[JimmyDean]

PC Engine Hell and Nintega Grafx-16. You guys really hate eachother, don't you. I'm a little more on the side of PCEH because Nintega spammed up the feedback forum a few weeks ago, but damn, it sure is fun to watch you two argue.

[Nintega Grafx-16]

Its cool and all that I swing that way, bi, gay, gay for pay, whatever.

Fixed for true to life accuracy.

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

PC Engine Hell and Nintega Grafx-16. You guys really hate eachother, don't you. I'm a little more on the side of PCEH because Nintega spammed up the feedback forum a few weeks ago, but damn, it sure is fun to watch you two argue.

Nah, I just made a little commentary on a couple of obvious things not mentioned yet on this thread that I noticed when quoting him. Some of it has about as much to do with comparing the two games as the prices of systems and games do. But since the OP already derailed his own thread in his first post, why not? Its all moot really. I don't really care if he replies back. He may take offense to it, idk. Not a big deal either way. Its just the internet after all.

If it was a argument, well, that would mean he had to have posted those things he said to me, aimed at me, about me, as a means to start one. That would be trolling wouldn't it? Then he'd jump back on here foaming at the mouth barring fangs and spouting alot of vile statements in hopes of getting a reply, so he could repeat said action. Aww hell, we all know Dave, he would never do that. It would be totally out of character for him. He knows I'm only kidding anyway. ;)

[Nintega Grafx-16]

Not a big deal either way. Its just the internet after all.

Spoken like a true bridge dweller.


Anyway........

Bottom line.

Genesis version. Yay.

SGX version. Gay.

[JimmyDean]

You'd have thought Nintega would have learned from his mistakes at PCEFX. But no, he just keeps being the same ignorant troll, signing up for forums out the wazoo, and spamming them like a fucking retarded kid. I didn't want to kindle the fire by arguing with him, but why not? I'd like to see his cross-dressing ass banned. Nintega, just go the fuck away. There is help out there for people like you.

[Nintega Grafx-16]

You'd have thought Nintega would have learned from his mistakes at PCEFX. But no, he just keeps being the same ignorant troll, signing up for forums out the wazoo, and spamming them like a fucking retarded kid. I didn't want to kindle the fire by arguing with him, but why not? I'd like to see his cross-dressing ass banned. Nintega, just go the fuck away. There is help out there for people like you.

Wait. How do you know I was on PCEFX? *ponders*

I smell an alt account!

[JimmyDean]

Its a well known fact, asshole. When you create multiple accounts and spam the hell out of a well-known gaming forum, people hear about it. Oh, and I also saw your Youtube video rallying people against PCEFX. Have them run a fucking IP address check too, if you want.

[Nintega Grafx-16]

Its a well known fact, asshole. When you create multiple accounts and spam the hell out of a well-known gaming forum, people hear about it. Oh, and I also saw your Youtube video rallying people against PCEFX. Have them run a fucking IP address check too, if you want.

Blah, blah, blah, wimper, wimper, cry, cry. Back to the ignore list you go.

[JimmyDean]

Blah, blah, blah, wimper, wimper, cry, cry. Back to the ignore list you go.

Oh, I'm so fucking scared! NOOOOO! NOT THE IGNORE LIST! GAHHHHH!

[mobiusclimber]

Funny that you guys haven't learned not to feed the troll yet. But I suppose for some people it's amusing to get into these e-dramas and "milk the lolcow" as it were. Other people are on this forum to have civil and intelligent discussions about video games. I really had to wonder why either of his topics had even a single post in them since they were such obvious attempts to troll. Ignore him and he'll get tired and go away. But the funny thing is, for all the "drama" he creates on every message board he goes to, there's always the same set of people happily giving him something to have drama over.

In short, this message board has nothing to do with cross dressing, sexual preference, proverty, or building up your e-penis. The fact that mods haven't bothered to step in and tell EVERYONE INVOLVED to knock it the fuck off would be worrisome if this wasn't the middle of a Saturday. I guess none of us have as much lives as they do. But seems having a bigger e-penis is more important than having a life, eh?

[Nintega Grafx-16]

Funny that you guys haven't learned not to feed the troll yet. But I suppose for some people it's amusing to get into these e-dramas and "milk the lolcow" as it were. Other people are on this forum to have civil and intelligent discussions about video games. I really had to wonder why either of his topics had even a single post in them since they were such obvious attempts to troll. Ignore him and he'll get tired and go away.

Um how you figure this a troll topic? Is it because I said the Genesis version of GnG is better than the SGX version? You petty PCEFX members really crack me up.

[T2KFreeker]

What a waste of Cyberspace . . .

[JimmyDean]

Funny that you guys haven't learned not to feed the troll yet. But I suppose for some people it's amusing to get into these e-dramas and "milk the lolcow" as it were. Other people are on this forum to have civil and intelligent discussions about video games. I really had to wonder why either of his topics had even a single post in them since they were such obvious attempts to troll. Ignore him and he'll get tired and go away. But the funny thing is, for all the "drama" he creates on every message board he goes to, there's always the same set of people happily giving him something to have drama over.

In short, this message board has nothing to do with cross dressing, sexual preference, proverty, or building up your e-penis. The fact that mods haven't bothered to step in and tell EVERYONE INVOLVED to knock it the fuck off would be worrisome if this wasn't the middle of a Saturday. I guess none of us have as much lives as they do. But seems having a bigger e-penis is more important than having a life, eh?

Okay, I'll stop. I didn't want to add fuel to the fire, but I ended up doing it. I guess you can blame his trolling activity in the past week partially on me, as he just wants a response and an audience... I just want him to leave the forum so we can have a spam-free environment for discussing video games.

[Nintega Grafx-16]

Okay, I'll stop. I didn't want to add fuel to the fire, but I ended up doing it. I guess you can blame his trolling activity in the past week partially on me, as he just wants a response and an audience... I just want him to leave the forum so we can have a spam-free environment for discussing video games.

Too bad. So sad.

[tomaitheous]

Funny that you guys haven't learned not to feed the troll yet. But I suppose for some people it's amusing to get into these e-dramas and "milk the lolcow" as it were. Other people are on this forum to have civil and intelligent discussions about video games. I really had to wonder why either of his topics had even a single post in them since they were such obvious attempts to troll. Ignore him and he'll get tired and go away. But the funny thing is, for all the "drama" he creates on every message board he goes to, there's always the same set of people happily giving him something to have drama over.

I take it you don't know Nintega's legacy then. If you ignore him, he'll still go after you (he's fairly resilient). Find out your youtube accounts and other forums accounts, and stalk you. I've seen it. He's more than troll, he's mentally challenged (I'm being completely serious, not joking around or trying to insult). When the guy is on his meds (also serious), he's calm but otherwise.. . well, you don't want to know. Mike actually has something to contribute to this forum and others as any other gamer/fan, but Nintega on the other hand can't control himself (apparently) and tends to poke at Mike for nothing other than his own amusement (or other people in general). I can only see this getting worse (because of Nintega).

[JimmyDean]

Too bad. So sad.

I know. Isn't it sad that WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE INTELLIGENT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT VIDEO GAMES without you spamming? This forum was, to me, a place to discuss my hobby with other people who were into the same thing. Then you came along and fucked it all up for me and everyone else. I hope you feel good about yourself, you cocksucker.

[Matt-El]

I am Enron.

http://www.pictureninja.com/pages/united-states/texas/enron-sign.jpg

[Nintega Grafx-16]

Mike actually has something to contribute to this forum

Like what? Flaming people if they don't bow down to him? Who cares if he sells stuff here. He is an elitest.

[JimmyDean]

Like what? Flaming people if they don't bow down to him? Who cares if he sells stuff here. He is an elitest.

At least he doesn't stalk people, dress in drag, start flame wars, spam forums, create alt accounts, rally people against sites that banned him, be an attention-whoring asshole, etc.

[mobiusclimber]

I take it you don't know Nintega's legacy then. If you ignore him, he'll still go after you (he's fairly resilient). Find out your youtube accounts and other forums accounts, and stalk you. I've seen it. He's more than troll, he's mentally challenged (I'm being completely serious, not joking around or trying to insult). When the guy is on his meds (also serious), he's calm but otherwise.. . well, you don't want to know. Mike actually has something to contribute to this forum and others as any other gamer/fan, but Nintega on the other hand can't control himself (apparently) and tends to poke at Mike for nothing other than his own amusement (or other people in general). I can only see this getting worse (because of Nintega).

I do know it. But I've yet to see anyone let the mods ban him (as often as it takes) and everyone else just ignore him. Instead, I've always seen topics devolve into ... this. Flames and name-calling and cross-dressing. It doesn't work. It's why he stalks people and spams and trolls them. There are plenty of these guys on the internet.

[Nintega Grafx-16]

I've always seen topics devolve into ... this. Flames and name-calling and cross-dressing. It doesn't work. It's why he stalks people and spams and trolls them. There are plenty of these guys on the internet.

You just described the average PCEFX and GameFAQs topic there. LOL

[nectarsis]

[

I smell an elitest. You know the kinds of douches who think they are holier than thou just because they have something that most people don't have?

Now for the pricing controversy....




O RLY?

Daimakaimura on ebay, $100 (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Daimakaimura-Nec-Super-GrafX-Japanese-/300366055152?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item45ef3646f0)


Super Grafx on ebay, $200 (http://cgi.ebay.com/BOXED-IMPORT-PC-Engine-Super-Grafx-Console-Battle-Ace-/230448591918?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35a7ce742e)

$110 and $30-50 my ass. Stop lying to people about the prices of games and consoles. BOTH OF YOU. That is a form of trolling you know.


Stop being so naive to post a BIN as the standard for a game price. You've been told before this means nothing. I could post a BIN for $1,000 means dick.



That comment was just for the many people on this forum who have never heard of the SGX. I had to let people know how many games it has or else these poor people, who would actually be brave enough to go out of their way to buy a SGX, will be getting a strong case of buyer's remorse.


I guess everyone elses Google must be broken eh? Seeing as (according to you) it's SOOOOOOOOOO super expensive...most people dropping such BIG $ actually look around, maybe *gasp* do a little research.



Wait. How do you know I was on PCEFX? *ponders*

I smell an alt account!

Funny you PM'd him your supposed "damning evidence" why you hate me, etc. SO forgetful already?

[JimmyDean]

Actually nec, he just called you an elitist jack-off. (he likes the word elitist a lot) However Nintega is pretty naive for thinking that there's no info that he was ever on PCEFX. Didn't the owner of the site threaten to bring him to court?

[nectarsis]

TO be precise he lobbed the elitest jack off was aimed at PC_Enine hell (though he overuses that one often). Yes he was theatened with legal action by the site owner (amonngst others). He feels he's perfectly safe to do whateever online (slander/stalk/harass/etc.).


ANYWAYS..attempting to get back on topic.

As normal "what game is better" is subjective to peoples taste. IMO the ONLY way the Genny version beats teh SGFX in is it's baragain basement price. I prefer the music on the SGFX, graphics are a no brainer (SGFX).

[tomaitheous]

I do know it. But I've yet to see anyone let the mods ban him (as often as it takes) and everyone else just ignore him.

Well, he was banned on PCFX - which is pretty hard to do. The mods let a lot of shit fly on that forum. But he's one of only two people that got banned from the site that I know of. And he repeatedly attempted to create new accounts (some got through and he immediately starting harassing people). I believe he was threatened with legal action from the site's owner. Normally I'd agree that just ignoring a troll will make them leave/quite/move on. But I honestly don't know how one deals with this kind of person.



It's why he stalks people and spams and trolls them. There are plenty of these guys on the internet.

I'd agree with you, but he also goes after people that said little-to-nothing to him. Tetsujin comes to mind (who never did anything to Nintega). As well as friends and associates of people he hates, even if they didn't particularly poke him with the stick.

[Nintega Grafx-16]

Well, he was banned on PCFX - which is pretty hard to do. The mods let a lot of shit fly on that forum. But he's one of only two people that got banned from the site that I know of. And he repeatedly attempted to create new accounts (some got through and he immediately starting harassing people). I believe he was threatened with legal action from the site's owner. Normally I'd agree that just ignoring a troll will make them leave/quite/move on. But I honestly don't know how one deals with this kind of person.




I'd agree with you, but he also goes after people that said little-to-nothing to him. Tetsujin comes to mind (who never did anything to Nintega). As well as friends and associates of people he hates, even if they didn't particularly poke him with the stick.

Ok storyteller, COME ON DOWN! You are the next contestant on my PCEFX member ignore list!

[pseudonym]

You seem like nothing but a troll. Welcome to my ignore list.

[nectarsis]

Funny Ninny where's the army of your minions that agree with your skewed views? Seems you get slammed here just like everywhere else you've been banned. Makes ya think...

[Peonpiate]

I love that game. Everyone here knows GnG is a classic but no one knows about the Super Grafx version outside of the internet. This is my list of pros and cons for both versions.

Genesis:

+ Cheap
+ Better music
+ Diagonal controls
- Graphics aren't special

Super Grafx:

+ Graphics more true to the arcade version
- Music takes a hit
- Super expensive
- The system is expensive
- The system also has five games

Verdict: GENESIS


For a common collector its a bonus that the game is common on the genny. For collectors...its better that its rare. And as far as the game itself goes, SGX is a better port. But both are very inferior to the arcade. The snes release [a sequel] showed that that system if it were to do a GnG port would trump both.

[Trebuken]

Most of the buy it now auctions for the Super Grafx and it's games seem to over priced, yet on the whole SuperGrafx games seem to be creeping up in price on ebay. Still, 1941 Counter-attack sells for about the same as the system.

I prefer the Super-Grafx version, but I think the C-64 version is the one I played the most.

[tomaitheous]

For a common collector its a bonus that the game is common on the genny. For collectors...its better that its rare. And as far as the game itself goes, SGX is a better port. But both are very inferior to the arcade. The snes release [a sequel] showed that that system if it were to do a GnG port would trump both.

Except for the slowdown that the SNES port would more than likely have. I think both the SGX and Genesis could have had better versions as the system progressed in it's life span as seen with other ports (limiting the difference between them and any SNES port). But man, S'GnG was one beautiful game.

[Zap!]

Spoken like a true bridge dweller.


Anyway........

Bottom line.

Genesis version. Yay.

SGX version. Gay.

I disagree. For graphics I strongly prefer the SG version. The rain and things blowing in the wind are everything the Genesisn't. Also, hit a bird and watch its feathers fly. It also has an intro.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Spoken like a true bridge dweller.


Anyway........

Bottom line.

Genesis version. Yay.

SGX version. Gay.

Again with the "gay" as a derogatory term. Unless you can prove to me that the game sleeps with men, the game is not "gay".

[Gameguy]

Again with the "gay" as a derogatory term. Unless you can prove to me that the game sleeps with men, the game is not "gay".
So is the game male? If it was female, sleeping with men would make it straight. Or could it be bisexual? Also, if Ghouls 'N Ghosts slept with Ghosts 'n Goblins, would that be a form of incest? There's so much to think about with this.

[staxx]

Gay Video Game........hmmmm, I guess I should bust out Bare Knuckle 3 and play as ASH

[Arkhan]

So is the game male? If it was female, sleeping with men would make it straight. Or could it be bisexual? Also, if Ghouls 'N Ghosts slept with Ghosts 'n Goblins, would that be a form of incest? There's so much to think about with this.

noone wants to sleep with the ghosts and goblins on NES!

Such a disaster. :)

[NE146]

That comment was just for the many people on this forum who have never heard of the SGX. I had to let people know how many games it has or else these poor people, who would actually be brave enough to go out of their way to buy a SGX, will be getting a strong case of buyer's remorse.

I regularly prowled Akihabara throughout the 80's and early 90's and always saw SuperGrafx's for sale while the system was brand new and still getting games. I passed on them then, and I still pass on them today :p

[megasdkirby]

The Master System version is as much of a joke as the Super Grafx version IMHO.

I prefer the SMS version only because it's much more accessible to me than the other versions.

[kupomogli]

The snes release [a sequel] showed that that system if it were to do a GnG port would trump both.

And this trumps them all.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ldye7OqOyHUoyM:http://www48.indowebster.com/c57584a21060921602cf7a9e144fe1f6.jpg

[PC-ENGINE HELL]

The snes release [a sequel] showed that that system if it were to do a GnG port would trump both.


If only. Problem is, stuff like SF 2 Champion Edition, Dracula X, Gradius 2, ect on PCE proved that really wouldn't be the case. Some people give the Snes far too much credit all things considered. The Pc-Engine easily held its own as it was. The Supergrafx would have done some amazing things if given the proper support. I'm not positive, but I could have swore someone (forgot who) had replicated some of the Axley content on Supergrafx just to show there was still plenty of potential there, and Mal did a few neat sfx things so far too( found here (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=7522.0)).

[T2KFreeker]

If only. Problem is, stuff like SF 2 Champion Edition, Dracula X, Gradius 2, ect on PCE proved that really wouldn't be the case. Some people give the Snes far too much credit all things considered. The Pc-Engine easily held its own as it was. The Supergrafx would have done some amazing things if given the proper support. I'm not positive, but I could have swore someone (forgot who) had replicated some of the Axley content on Supergrafx just to show there was still plenty of potential there, and Mal did a few neat sfx things so far too( found here (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=7522.0)).

Nice little demos. It really would be fun to see what all the Super Grafx is really capable of. The system was so not utilized. Kind of like the 32-X. Would have been fun to see what all could have been pulled off on the unit.

[Arkhan]

Well if you look at Aldynes and GnG on super grafx, you can definitely see that some extremely awesome arcade games could be pulled off on the system.


A castlevania for it would have been <3

and a double dragon.

and some exclusive RPGs. :D

[Zap!]

And this trumps them all.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ldye7OqOyHUoyM:http://www48.indowebster.com/c57584a21060921602cf7a9e144fe1f6.jpg

Couldn't you find a bigger picture? :D

[Ed Oscuro]

Genesis: Play on a Genesis or Mega Drive with whatever joystick you want

Super Grafx: Requires an expensive console which is good for only five (?) other games (using the term loosely for some of 'em). You would be well on the way to owning the actual arcade game version if you saved money from the SGX version plus the card :monkey:

Verdict: Genesis for simplicity and savings.


Couldn't you find a bigger picture? :D
Don't taunt the Kupo...

EDIT: Also I am very proud of nintenga for making 50 of these topics.

[WoodyXP]

Check this out..

1. Forget about the hardware
2. Forget about the price points, rarity..etc
3. Stack the two games up against each other, head to head

Now.. which game is better?