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ShinobiMan
06-02-2010, 09:32 AM
I have fond memories of MK 3. I thought the stage designs were awesome, and the ability to uppercut or knock your opponent into another stage was brilliant. Very original at the time.

I remember attending a release party at Incredible Universe (anyone remember that store?) the day it came out. Huge crowd... everyone salivating to play the new Mortal Kombat. They had a big stage set up in the middle of the store, and the model who played Sonya in the game was there in costume to promote it.

grolt
06-05-2010, 05:13 AM
For me, MK3 jumped the shark with all its outlandish robot characters and the bloat of end moves. The game had just grown way too big for its britches by this point, and all the extra goofy fatalities, babalities and, as my brother would call them, beastialities just made the game too overstuffed to be taken seriously. The first MK is wonderful in its endearingly crass simplicity, and the second grew the series just right, but by 3 the formula had grown tired and pulled in just too many different directions. I remember even the blood looked overly cartoony and not in that striking realist vein that made the first two games so visceral. And seriously...what the FUCK were they thinking with Kabal? What a disgrace to fighters and to life in general.

Even when they brought back all the classic characters in UMK3, which I played a ton of back in the day on the Saturn, the game just never was the same. It was too big, it lost the balance from before, and trying to do all the button mashing for the finishing moves just became too much of a chore. To me that's not fun, that's work. I'd rather just watch that shit on YouTube now.

Back when MKII came out, it really made the first game look shoddy and inferior in every way, but when MK3 came out, that changed. And with that, and every subsequent sub-par sequel/reiteration, it just made the simplicity and focus of the first MK seem that much better. I think of all the games, the first has risen in stature over the years because the series has fallen so far off the rails that fans are realizing it was the dark tone, small cast and simple gameplay that drove the series in the first place. Or maybe I'm being biased here because the MK port for the Master System is so much better than its broken MKII and MK3 ports. So I guess I'll thank MK3 for making me like the original that much more, but that's all I'll give it.

Lest we forget:

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ubersaurus
06-05-2010, 12:29 PM
UMK3 lost the balance? Tell that to anyone who ever decided to get good at Mortal Kombat :P UMK3 is not just balanced for an MK game, it's balanced for a fighting game. Very much a game based on matchups between characters, as opposed to MK2, which was dominated by Jax and Mileena pretty hardcore.

DreamTR
06-05-2010, 01:07 PM
MK was a decent fighitng game franchise and at the very least, what other American franchise had the balls to do anything and still exist to this day making games?

MK1 was low on gameplay, but high on gore.

MKII was a VERY good game on all ends. I know people complain about the balance on that game, but it's not as skewed as everyone thinks.

Mileena is the best character in the game, but only because she beats Jax. She has even matchups vs Kung Lao, Liu Kang, Raiden and slight advantage over Scorpion.

Jax beats everyone else, loses to Mileena, is even with Kung Lao, has a slight advantage over Raiden and Liu Kang.

Top characters in the game are Mileena, Jax, Liu Kang, Kung Lao, and Kitana.

UMK3 is also a very good game, but you are comparing apples to oranges.

All the people that "whine" about MKII generally LOVE UMK3 because it is not a turtle game, but it is not without its problems (Kabal, Smoke(s), Ermac, etc) I'm not sure why runjabrunjabrunjab is more exciting than ground pound or sai all day, but the fact of the matter is UMK3 players complain that MKII is broken because they lost in it, and I can't find an MKII player to complain about UMK3.

Have to respect both games, apples to oranges, both are solid and VERY playable.

cityside75
06-05-2010, 09:50 PM
MKII was a VERY good game on all ends. I know people complain about the balance on that game, but it's not as skewed as everyone thinks.

Mileena is the best character in the game, but only because she beats Jax. She has even matchups vs Kung Lao, Liu Kang, Raiden and slight advantage over Scorpion.

Jax beats everyone else, loses to Mileena, is even with Kung Lao, has a slight advantage over Raiden and Liu Kang.

Top characters in the game are Mileena, Jax, Liu Kang, Kung Lao, and Kitana.

Cool info. I have loved MK2 since release day, and have a multicade cab with MK2 that I still play a lot to this day. Back when it was newer, I recall Sub Zero being the character of choice for better players, but now he's not even mentioned. He's still my personal best character by far, and none of my local competitors can touch him. I'll have to look for some Youtube videos of Jax....

DreamTR
06-08-2010, 02:39 PM
cityside: I think that all depended on region. The top players were in California, Chicago, Florida, and New York.

Sub Zero can't do anything in the game to many characters. He isn't able to jump at Jax at all. He can't defeat Ground Pound and stand HK. ....

A lot of regions I went to really didn't know much about the game until they see the top characters play as they should be. In this day and age, You Tube allows for more competitive gameplay quicker, because people can copy everyone else's strategies. Back then, you had to figure it all our yourself =)

AllP0werToSlaves
06-11-2010, 02:43 AM
Mortal Kombat II is arguably my single most favorite fighter of all time; I've been an MK addict since '94.

Tsar
07-03-2010, 02:57 PM
I was four when I started playing mk 1 and loved all 3. But when it hit the 3d camera it lost its charm. By all means mk deception was very fun but just was not very memerable.

But good news looks like there is a new one on its way and it looks like it has gone back to its 2d camera roots.

TheClash603
07-03-2010, 03:27 PM
Ultimate MK 3 is my favorite game of the series... and I don't know why everyone hates the robots, because Cyber Smoke is my favorite character in that game.

I did love MK1 (only game that I would play for damn near a year on my Genesis) and MK2 was solid as well. However, it wasn't until the speed introduced with MK3 and then all the updates of UMK3 that the series really hit its potential.

The real question should be "why 3D MK?." MK4 and beyond are okay games, but they never captured the magic of MK1-UMK3.

Nirvana
07-04-2010, 12:46 AM
The running combo system was decent, but MKII was seriously an incredible fighting game. I thought MKII was the best one, just like many other people do.

Tsar
07-04-2010, 02:41 PM
The running combo system was decent, but MKII was seriously an incredible fighting game. I thought MKII was the best one, just like many other people do.

Agreed. Had the best stages and characters.ROFL

Pk116
07-04-2010, 04:55 PM
Aw, some of you guys are so harsh on this game. I like Mortal Kombat. I do not think it is as good as Street Fighter, but it is a good fighter nevertheless. The darker theme, fatalities, different control, and crazy combos add a lot to the game. I like to play a few games of Mortal Kombat when I am tired of Street Fighter and vice versa. Two fighters are better than one! :)

cmstar
07-04-2010, 11:29 PM
I'd just like to add my $.02. I HATE Street Fighter II and all the sequels. I actually like 'Fighting Street' (Street Fighter 1) for the TG-16 better. Never ever got into those games.

I did, and still do love the MK Series. MK II holds a special place in my heart. MK3 does suck, but everything that is wrong with it was ironed out (imho) with UMK3. As far as actual gameplay and challent, I think UMK3 is one of the best fighters period.

dnehthend
07-05-2010, 06:06 AM
I love MK-UMK3 and even MKT, MK9 looks promising

I grew up with mortal kombat, I first played it in the arcade at a peter piper pizza when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade... changed my world, I had never played a fighting game before then when mortal kombat 2 came out I remember crowds of people gathered around waiting to fight whoever had just won

I first saw MK3 on a family trip to las vegas, it was a pretty early build, had a lot of glitches... this was also the first and only time i saw a street fighter the movie the game cabinet.. what a joke

Flack
07-05-2010, 09:21 AM
I own MK1 and UMK3 cabinets, but I'd like to maybe trade the 1 for a 2 someday. I've always preferred MK to SF. Then again, I'm not a serious fighter person at all. I'm not even a silly fighter person.

Zing
07-05-2010, 11:09 AM
It has always been my dream to have a Mortal Kombat II arcade cab in my home. I came close to actually buying one, except I realized that I wouldn't have any real competition to play again. Beating the CPU is too easy.

MK3 1.0 in my arcade quickly boiled down to Subzero vs. Subzero. Anyone else would lose miserably. The ability to do the "backflip freeze" in midair right on top of the opponent was so powerful. They "fixed" this in 1.1 by not allowing that move to be done directly next to the opponent.

kedawa
07-05-2010, 12:09 PM
I really hate the way they 'fixed' problems like that in MK. Not being able to do moves in certain situations is just a cop out.
It always bothered me that you have to wait for the opponent to get up before doing the ice puddle in MKII. I just thought I was doing the motion wrong or something. Giving the opponent the ability to jump out of it or counter on wake up is how it should have been handled.

snes_collector
07-05-2010, 06:40 PM
Mortal Kombat was been a series that I've always wanted to love, but I just haven't found it. I had MK for SNES as a kid, and couldn't do a thing with it because of the difficulty. I got MK3 for SNES a few years ago and still couldn't do much with it even now. They was always too hard for me, even on easy. I'm not sure if I've ever even made it past the 3rd or 4th opponent. I do have a copy of MK2 for Genesis which I don't believe I've ever played, and after hearing all the postive things about it I believe I'll hook my Genny up and give it a shot, maybe it will change my mind about the series.

Zama
07-05-2010, 08:23 PM
I have played MK3 & UMK3 back in the late 90s & I fondly recalled that the games were quite hard. :P I remembered watching in awe of how the CPU was able to executed such complex combos in little to no time and recovered so quickly after receiving two or three hits. >_< In retrospect, I wished I built a time machine and tell my younger self to never get those games. :sob: