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8bitgamer

06-03-2010, 02:32 PM

I picked up a copy of REZ (PS2) the other day at Movie Trading Company and am enjoying it thoroughly. I love the look of it, and the difficulty progression is pretty smooth. Plus, it's fairly original. I wouldn't want that style of shooting (press down button to lock on, let go to shoot) in all my games, but it works in this case.

That got me to thinking about how many great, semi-hard-to-find games there are for various consoles:

Odyssey2: Killer Bees! (intense, highly original game), Turtles! (excellent port)
Atari 5200: Mega Mania (better graphics than 2600 version), Bounty Bob Strikes Back (25 levels of greatness)
Saturn: Shinobi Legions (nice upgrade on classic series)
Intellivision: Diner (Intellivision exclusive sequel to BurgerTime)

I could think of numerous others, but I'd like to hear some of your (ya'll's, you guyses?) picks.

98PaceCar

06-03-2010, 02:59 PM

jb143

06-03-2010, 03:03 PM

Here's the first ones that come to mind...
SMS: Montezuma's Revenge
Lynx: Lemmings
PS1: Intelligent Qube

Though 2 of those are easy to find on other platforms and I think the Intelligent Qube demo disk might be pretty common.

Baloo

06-03-2010, 03:38 PM

Sega CD - Popful Mail (Great action RPG that gets overlooked due to its rarity and somewhat high price)

Saturn - Burning Rangers (One of my all time favorite games, definitely worth the price that it goes for)

Nintendo Gamecube - Fire Emblem Path of Radiance

mobiusclimber

06-03-2010, 04:11 PM

The first thing I thought of was EVO: The Search For Eden (SNES). Pretty unique game and next to impossible to find a copy "in the wild."

hellfire

06-03-2010, 04:38 PM

The first thing I thought of was EVO: The Search For Eden (SNES). Pretty unique game and next to impossible to find a copy "in the wild."

I found a copy at my local play n trade for $54 dollars with my discount

neuropolitique

06-03-2010, 05:14 PM

DP = Research Library

portnoyd

06-03-2010, 05:22 PM

How about 'Stop poaching these boards for material for your fucking books' for the INTV

skaar

06-03-2010, 05:28 PM

How about 'Stop poaching these boards for material for your fucking books' for the INTV

^^^^^

snes_collector

06-03-2010, 05:28 PM

AeroFighters for SNES is pretty great.

8bitgamer

06-03-2010, 06:31 PM

How about 'Stop poaching these boards for material for your fucking books' for the INTV

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How about stop wasting your time making rude comments on message boards.

I'm curious. Why do you blog about going to the bathroom? Weird.

8bitgamer

06-03-2010, 06:42 PM

PS1 - Intelligent Cube and Team Buddies

Xbox - Metal Wolf Chaos (JPN import)

Saturn - Radiant Silvergun (and other shmups)

Gamecube - Ikaruga

Atari 2600 - H.e.r.o.

Many others, but these come to mind immediately.

A few months after Ikaruga came out, FRYES had a huge stack of them for $14.95 each. I remember thinking that I should by extras to sell later (it seemed like a game that would be a cult classic--great game, weird title, etc.), but I didn't, unfortunately.

portnoyd

06-03-2010, 06:44 PM

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How about stop wasting your time making rude comments on message boards.

I'm curious. Why do you blog about going to the bathroom? Weird.

Nice try dude. Do you know how many people have tried to "insult" me by making fun of something I do on my own volition? You know, the one if I was embarrassed by, I wouldn't do in the first place? Christ, you people need to go to troll school, I swear.

Anyway, you're worth the time to bug because if you simply took half a second to look through classic discussions, you'd find this thread:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18468

You can't even research well.

8bitgamer

06-03-2010, 06:51 PM

Nice try dude. Do you know how many people have tried to "insult" me by making fun of something I do on my own volition? You know, the one if I was embarrassed by, I wouldn't do in the first place? Christ, you people need to go to troll school, I swear.

Anyway, you're worth the time to bug because if you simply took half a second to look through classic discussions, you'd find this thread:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18468

You can't even research well.

I'm not insulting anyone. I just think it's weird and wonder why anyone would do such a thing. Freud would have a field day.

Thanks for pointing out that other thread. When I posed the question about great games that are hard to find, it wasn't research--that topic simply occurred to me while playing REZ, and I was curious what other hard-to-find games people enjoy. However, I have asked research-related questions on these boards before and have gotten valuable information. If that bothers you, I'm not sure why.

Trying being nice--even to strangers who write books--and you'll find that life is much better that way.

walrusmonger

06-03-2010, 07:22 PM

8bitgamer

06-03-2010, 07:28 PM

Holy shit, I just read your blog- fantastic stuff!

To someone who considers shit holy, I guess you would like it (not that the blog is shit--but that the blog is about shit).

portnoyd

06-03-2010, 07:31 PM

Trying being nice--even to strangers who write books--and you'll find that life is much better that way.

If this means you're going to add "And finally, to portnoyd, the insane fecalfeliac who told me to eat dick on Digital Press, this is a big fuck off to you", then please indulge me.

walrusmonger

06-03-2010, 07:44 PM

To someone who considers shit holy, I guess you would like it (not that the blog is shit--but that the blog is about shit).

Uh... yeah, ok. His blog is a fantastic read because the voice is hilarious, doesn't matter if he was writing about shit or about flat tires.

8bitgamer

06-03-2010, 07:58 PM

Uh... yeah, ok. His blog is a fantastic read because the voice is hilarious, doesn't matter if he was writing about shit or about flat tires.

"What is comedy? Comedy is the art of making people laugh without making them puke." Steve Martin

To each his own, I suppose.

Auto-Fox

06-03-2010, 08:14 PM

Aaaaaand the thread has gotten off topic.
My favorite semi-uncommon game, for the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive, would be Atomic Robo Kid. It's surprisingly fun.
My favorite outright RARE game is Ranger X.

dao2

06-03-2010, 09:19 PM

not quite sure it would qualify but my all time favorite Skies of Arcadia

retroman

06-03-2010, 10:06 PM

Kirbys Adventure for Nes, Mighty Final Fight Nes

Doonzmore

06-03-2010, 10:22 PM

Sword Master-Nes
Ardy Lightfoot-Snes
Aero Fighters-Snes

Steve W

06-03-2010, 11:23 PM

What amazes me is that I already have so many of these games mentioned, and several of them found in the wild. EVO Search for Eden? Bought it a couple of years ago in a thrift for a few bucks. Killer Bees! I bought in a retro game store in Waco last year for two dollars (great game). Shinobi Legions (Japanese import, bought for $2.50 at the Oklahoma Game Expo), Diner (bought new at Toys R' Us back in the day), Ikaruga (Fry's Electronics, marked down to $14.90), Intelligent Qube (recent thrift store find for less than five bucks), Lynx Lemmings (bought when it came out), and so on. I didn't have much of a point to make, other than to brag. LOL

goldenegg

06-04-2010, 12:24 AM

Saturn: Shinobi Legions (nice upgrade on classic series)

Honestly? That game is horrible! I remember how disappointed I was after picking up a copy on release day (which I still have). You're probably the first person I've come across to actually write something positive about it.

Garry Silljo

06-04-2010, 01:00 AM

Honestly? That game is horrible! I remember how disappointed I was after picking up a copy on release day (which I still have). You're probably the first person I've come across to actually write something positive about it.

I love this game. ..... that is all.

BiggerBoo

06-04-2010, 01:09 AM

How about 'Stop poaching these boards for material for your fucking books' for the INTV

The amount of ridiculous little offenses possible for someone to make on the internet now days absolutely astounds me. Who gives an egg if a nice-enough guy is trying to write a book, and using a forum to help do so? You're on the INTERNET - if any of my own threads have shown anything, it's that if there's a post that doesn't particularly pique someone's interest (or in this case, a post that's apparently offensive or considered 'trolling' - which, fuck, where did this term originate, and why is it so bad to 'troll' in the first place? - and aren't most of us gamers Trolls IRL? - are our online lives becoming that tedious that we have to start governing one of the freest mediums of sociology we have left, by picking apart the good name ((screen name, mind you)) of any poster who steps over our delicately-laid line?) - you can ignore it! There are some places on the net where folks come to forums with shameless self-advertisement, and leave no extra food for thought, but where's the provocation in this thread? You'd think the guy writing in detail every day about his own bowel movements would understand the trials and tribulations certain writers who like to deal in non-traditional subject matter sometimes have to face (Just read the case papers on the American censorship/ban of Ulysses, man), and that in the end, this guy didn't even concretely mention his book - all he did was post a thread wanting to talk about rare games! I can say from experience that it's not the easiest thing to find people in your own area who think as deeply about video games as say, the author writing about them might want to - so where else can a writer turn but a forum that's (almost) chock-full of people who want to do nothing BUT talk about games? God knows they do enough silent reading, let them communicate.

BTW - I noticed that my Donkey Kong Country cart indicated that it was indeed, 'Rareware' - I'm assuming this was some buzz word in the '90's for a rare piece of gaming software. How much is one of you going to pay for it?

skaar

06-04-2010, 01:23 AM

This thread is awesome.

8bitgamer

06-04-2010, 06:13 AM

[QUOTE=BiggerBoo;1729782]The amount of ridiculous little offenses possible for someone to make on the internet now days absolutely astounds me. Who gives an egg if a nice-enough guy is trying to write a book, and using a forum to help do so? You're on the INTERNET - if any of my own threads have shown anything, it's that if there's a post that doesn't particularly pique someone's interest (or in this case, a post that's apparently offensive or considered 'trolling' - which, fuck, where did this term originate, and why is it so bad to 'troll' in the first place? - and aren't most of us gamers Trolls IRL? - are our online lives becoming that tedious that we have to start governing one of the freest mediums of sociology we have left, by picking apart the good name ((screen name, mind you)) of any poster who steps over our delicately-laid line?) - you can ignore it! There are some places on the net where folks come to forums with shameless self-advertisement, and leave no extra food for thought, but where's the provocation in this thread? You'd think the guy writing in detail every day about his own bowel movements would understand the trials and tribulations certain writers who like to deal in non-traditional subject matter sometimes have to face (Just read the case papers on the American censorship/ban of Ulysses, man), and that in the end, this guy didn't even concretely mention his book - all he did was post a thread wanting to talk about rare games! I can say from experience that it's not the easiest thing to find people in your own area who think as deeply about video games as say, the author writing about them might want to - so where else can a writer turn but a forum that's (almost) chock-full of people who want to do nothing BUT talk about games? God knows they do enough silent reading, let them communicate.[QUOTE]

Well said, my friend.

portnoyd

06-04-2010, 07:45 AM

Dearest cheech,

While I respect your well thoughtout post, please see the following:

Who gives an egg if a nice-enough guy is trying to write a book, and using a forum to help do so? You're on the INTERNET -

You'd think the guy writing in detail every day about his own bowel movements would understand the trials and tribulations certain writers who like to deal in non-traditional subject matter sometimes have to face (Just read the case papers on the American censorship/ban of Ulysses, man), and that in the end, this guy didn't even concretely mention his book - all he did was post a thread wanting to talk about rare games!

And that's it exactly. THE INTERNETS. We're on it and we have this thing called Google. The OP needs to learn how to use it. Members here, at AA, at NA, etc have already done the legwork and it's all recorded here. A little Googlefu with site: is all he needs.

Oh and then there are these threads. As neuro put it, this isn't the first time he's used DP as a research library.

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143483
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142614
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139418
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139060
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126476
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126014
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126562
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138487
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129663
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131347
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128953
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118787
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125115
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116458
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118606

As far as him not mentioning writing a book:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141083
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141081

Since you're so interested in it, you should know that last night, I may have got shit on my finger while wiping my ass. (http://portsloglog.com)

are our online lives becoming that tedious that we have to start governing one of the freest mediums of sociology we have left, by picking apart the good name ((screen name, mind you)) of any poster who steps over our delicately-laid line?)

Lemme show you something.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4669004006_8ac9d550f6_b.jpg

It's exponential!

There are some places on the net where folks come to forums with shameless self-advertisement, and leave no extra food for thought, but where's the provocation in this thread?

Just want to address this, but yes, we usually jump on those whores right quickly and their threads are usually flamed into oblivion. If I had an example, I'd show you.

8bitgamer

06-04-2010, 08:20 AM

Despite the usefulness of Google, there is oftentimes contradicting information. Many DP'ers are experts on particular games and are happy to provide info. I acknowledged that in the special thanks section of my second book.

Those who write mystery novels usually contact police departments, detectives, etc. when working on their books. Simply Googling info is not always enough.

duffmanth

06-04-2010, 08:20 AM

I don't know if it's just me, but Metal Gear Solid seems to have become fairly scarce at most game retailers that I go to.

Icarus Moonsight

06-04-2010, 08:37 AM

I'm not insulting anyone. I just think it's weird and wonder why anyone would do such a thing. Freud would have a field day.

Sometimes a log is just a log.

Sociology is a load of crap. My college text books first sentence was, "Common Sense doesn't exist." Dropped the course, burned the book. Psychology (also Praxeology (http://praxeology.net/praxeo.htm)) does what Sociology don't.

And you are technically incorrect. Freud would have a field day with Killer 7 and Deadly Premonition.

Garry Silljo

06-04-2010, 12:52 PM

Those who write mystery novels usually contact police departments, detectives, etc. when working on their books. Simply Googling info is not always enough.

Yes, they contact the police. They don't bug members of the community for directions to the police department. When you ask people to direct you to the websites where you find you're info (which I've seen examples of) you just come off as lazy.

shopkins

06-04-2010, 12:59 PM

8bitgamer

06-04-2010, 01:10 PM

Yes, they contact the police. They don't bug members of the community for directions to the police department. When you ask people to direct you to the websites where you find you're info (which I've seen examples of) you just come off as lazy.

The best websites for a certain topic don't always turn up in Google searches, at least using certain terms. I've been given valuable recommendations by DP'ers for websites that I wouldn't otherwise have known about. I search exhaustively through the web before I ever post any questions on Digital Press. These books take years to write, and that is on top of my far more lucrative writing jobs, so I'd hardly call that lazy.

8bitgamer

06-04-2010, 01:12 PM

As a former newspaper reporter I have to say, using an Internet forum as a source for a written work is a bad idea. At least if you use it as a sole source. Sure, there are knowledgeable people here and other places online, but it's still the case that too many people get things wrong or even make shit up to fuck with you. You could use it to guide you in the right direction, but what if you, for example, asked a question about PCE and ended up using an incorrect response from some idiot like Nintega in your book? That would be embarrassing.

Obviously, I always check a bunch of different sources for any fact I'm not already sure about. If I ask if anyone knows for sure who developed a game, I compare that to numerous other sources (programmer interviews, data bases, etc.).

For example, when I was told who programmed Jr. Pac-Man, I Googled that person's name and found a couple of interviews about programming that game, so I knew the information was correct.

BiggerBoo

06-04-2010, 03:51 PM

I can say from experience that it's not the easiest thing to find people in your own area who think as deeply about video games as say, the author writing about them might want to -

I wasn't talking about digging up facts.

The 1 2 P

06-04-2010, 08:21 PM

Back on topic, Snatcher for the Sega cd is somewhat hard to find, especially in the wild. Of course, I've never finished it so I can't honestly say if it's a great game but I was very much intrigued buy what I played of it so far. One day I need to put it in my X-Eye and finish it.

aobama52

06-04-2010, 11:33 PM

This used to be spam for golf equipment. And now it isn't.

:p

Icarus Moonsight

06-05-2010, 02:27 AM

Yes We Spam!

Obama banned = LOL

RASK1904

06-05-2010, 05:24 AM

YEAH BANNED!!!:rocker:

Anyways. The game I always think of is Double Dragon for the Genesis. I've seen threads about "What is the best version of Double Dragon" where no one even mentioned this one. They always argue between Nes and Master system. This one is the best. It is so arcade like it's redonkulose. I think people don't relize it even exists. You should realy check this one out.

Griking

06-05-2010, 11:45 AM

Dearest cheech,

And that's it exactly. THE INTERNETS. We're on it and we have this thing called Google. The OP needs to learn how to use it. Members here, at AA, at NA, etc have already done the legwork and it's all recorded here. A little Googlefu with site: is all he needs.

And what if he did use Google and it led him here?

BTW, isn't this considered thread crapping? Where's the mods?

Einzelherz

06-05-2010, 12:51 PM

portnoyd

06-05-2010, 03:55 PM

And what if he did use Google and it led him here?

BTW, isn't this considered thread crapping? Where's the mods?

H2U too, Gripe-king.

Smashed Brother

06-05-2010, 04:37 PM

Icarus Moonsight

06-05-2010, 09:27 PM

Speaking of whatever you guys were just talking about, I really fancy Dog's Life on the PS2! An open-world structured game.....where you get to poop and pee on things and then pick your poop up (with your mouth, of course) and fling it around! Just like real life! Pick it up if you ever see it.

This profoundly apt intellectual and deep reaching canine-existential analysis has my 100% approval. "Just like real life!" HA! Stitches. So true.

My personal boiler plate response whenever this topic comes 'round:
PSO 1&2 Plus and Resident Evil Code Veronica were two highly wanted GC games that took me years to finally pull down from the wild.

Kitsune Sniper

06-05-2010, 09:47 PM

I don't know if it's just me, but Metal Gear Solid seems to have become fairly scarce at most game retailers that I go to.

It's still pretty common on eBay, not to mention that the game got reprinted last year (or was it two years ago?) as part of the Metal Gear Solid collection (with MGS2 Substance and disc 1 of MGS3: Subsistence.)

Gamestop seems to be selling MGS1 on its own these days, pulled out of the boxset.