New Xbox 360 redesign (picture)... [Archive]

heybtbm

06-13-2010, 08:28 PM

http://kotaku.com/5562387/new-xbox-360-coming-project-natal-gets-renamed

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/666/500xslim360.jpg

Notice the ad mentions Wi-fi is included in the unit (Finally. Hello 2006).

Oh, and Natal is now "Kinect".

Sonicwolf

06-13-2010, 08:35 PM

That looks kind of fake. Hm.

kedawa

06-13-2010, 08:41 PM

I hope it's fake.
It looks like a HK clone system.

Greg2600

06-13-2010, 08:52 PM

The image came from an advertising flash movie on an Italian site, not a still image. Whether they redesign the console's case or not, the important question is what they might have done internally.

Sonicwolf

06-13-2010, 09:01 PM

The image came from an advertising flash movie on an Italian site, not a still image. Whether they redesign the console's case or not, the important question is what they might have done internally.

Yeah. I dont care if it looks like the bloody Supergrafx as long as the internals are stable, well vented and fixed beyond belief... That and quietness.

TheDomesticInstitution

06-13-2010, 09:07 PM

If it's redesigned internally, I'll finally buy one.

Sonicwolf

06-13-2010, 09:12 PM

Looks like the Natal is now Kinect. This redesign is starting to look less fake.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1096876p1.html

heybtbm

06-13-2010, 09:18 PM

I hope it's fake.
It looks like a HK clone system.

It's real. Multiple articles on Google News in the past hour.

Enigmus

06-13-2010, 09:27 PM

It's real. Multiple articles on Google News in the past hour.

Holy shit, that's the ugliest and most misshapen real I've seen in ages.

djbeatmongrel

06-13-2010, 09:45 PM

Holy shit, that's the ugliest and most misshapen real I've seen in ages.

That's what she said.

diskoboy

06-13-2010, 09:52 PM

If that's the Valhalla, I'm getting a Jasper.

Damn, thats ugly... Please let it be a fake.

otoko

06-13-2010, 09:57 PM

I don't think it's that ugly.. = /

megasdkirby

06-13-2010, 10:01 PM

I don't think it's that ugly.. = /

Me neither.

It looks weird, but many hated the new look of the PS3.

It just takes time to get used to.

However, it does look like a rocket ship for some odd reason. That, or a deformed alienware case...one of those Chinese ripoff cases. LOL

Leo_A

06-13-2010, 10:04 PM

The original 360 was never a looker either. This redesign isn't much worse.

If it increases reliability, brings down the price, and standardizes a large hard drive size, I'm all for it.

Sonicwolf

06-13-2010, 10:06 PM

Im hoping that, if this is real, Microsoft will adopt a standard 2.5" HDD that is swappable and purchasable without it having to be an official Microsoft drive.

ScourDX

06-13-2010, 10:12 PM

Looks more like PC than console.

duffmanth

06-13-2010, 10:35 PM

Hopefully it's a more reliable console?!

kedawa

06-13-2010, 11:17 PM

Those vents would lead me to think that the heat generating processors are no longer under the DVD-ROM drive.

Greg2600

06-13-2010, 11:23 PM

The look is absolutely irrelevant, if it doesn't break, people will be happy.

zemmix

06-13-2010, 11:26 PM

Those vents would lead me to think that the heat generating processors are no longer under the DVD-ROM drive.

Nope there are no heat-generating processors under the DVD anymore. I rotated the leaked Valhalla motherboard pic so you can see how this will fit in the case. THe cpu/gpu are on one chip now and the fan lines up perfectly with those vents that can be seen towards the bottom of the new 'slim' case.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4698737984_9a297530ae.jpg

Sonicwolf

06-13-2010, 11:30 PM

Nope there are no heat-generating processors under the DVD anymore. I rotated the leaked Valhalla motherboard pic so you can see how this will fit in the case. THe cpu/gpu are on one chip now and the fan lines up perfectly with those vents that can be seen towards the bottom of the new 'slim' case.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4698737984_9a297530ae.jpg

The so-called leak lacks the front ports on that so-called leak motherboard.

zemmix

06-13-2010, 11:40 PM

The so-called leak lacks the front ports on that so-called leak motherboard.

The leaked slim also bulges out where the ports are located on the Valhalla board so it could be there is a door that opens up to reveal the ports same as the Wii does it.

Sonicwolf

06-13-2010, 11:56 PM

The leaked slim also bulges out where the ports are located on the Valhalla board so it could be there is a door that opens up to reveal the ports same as the Wii does it.

There does not seem to be any noticeable edges which would show a hatch of that sort.

Greg2600

06-14-2010, 12:05 AM

Know for sure I guess tomorrow, but does seem more legit. I think the case look is a big improvement over the older ones. Also wonder if the HDD will be attached to the outside of the console, like the current ones?

maxlords

06-14-2010, 01:42 AM

Ugh....that looks like ass. I'm more concerned that they may have designed it to be vertical only though....I wonder if the giant vents are on both sides while vert. I prefer my 360s horizontal....

The 1 2 P

06-14-2010, 02:30 AM

It looks....well, it will grow on us. I was just about to buy the 250 gig hard drive for more space but now I'll just wait to get this instead, especially if it has built in wireless.

TonyTheTiger

06-14-2010, 02:52 AM

The image came from an advertising flash movie on an Italian site, not a still image. Whether they redesign the console's case or not, the important question is what they might have done internally.

Agreed. At this point I'm willing to take the plunge on a 360 model that I don't have to worry at all about regardless of what it looks like.

Yeah. I dont care if it looks like the bloody Supergrafx.

Now that might be a bit much. LOL

I'm guessing the look has to do with the HDD. They probably wanted to redesign it from the ground up while still making it compatible with the existing HDD design. That creates an obvious aesthetic issue. Though I do wish they had stuck with white. Black 360s never looked quite right to me. And I still miss the chrome on the disc drive.

Oh, and who wants to bet this redesign doesn't red ring? And when I say that I don't mean it will never fail. I mean that regardless of what stops working, a RROD will no longer be the sign of failure. The last thing MS needs is for even one person to say "My new 360 got the RROD."

poloplayr

06-14-2010, 04:12 AM

If this one actually works and doesn't have a 99.9% failure rate - I might considering picking this up for all the exclusive jap/RPG titles. Have stayed away from the 360 so far, since I don't like buying ill-produced items, regardless of whether it's a videogame system or a pair of shoes.

BetaWolf47

06-14-2010, 09:14 AM

Is anyone else confused that this redesign looks almost the same size as the original? It's a rotten shame when "slimline" versions of consoles are bigger than a Sega Saturn!

shopkins

06-14-2010, 09:28 AM

I might buy this one when my old one inevitably melts down. Seems like it at least removes a lot of the hassles. Hope they figure out a way to make it quieter.

c0ldb33r

06-14-2010, 09:33 AM

i think it looks fine. As long as it doesn't have the lame faceplates. the usb springs keep shitting out on mine.

I'll get the new one once my old one shits out. (as long as, as shopkins said, its quieter)

portnoyd

06-14-2010, 09:36 AM

It seems the Hadron Super Collider is now part of the 360 Slim production line.

swlovinist

06-14-2010, 10:01 AM

Not a big fan of the look of the redesign, but if the system is more reliable, then count me in.

Deadman

06-14-2010, 10:50 AM

Well, since my 06 model just RROD'd this weekend, I might be looking for a new system in the near future. Did the towel trick to keep it running while the X-clamp mod fix kit is in transit. I kinda like the new look...

TonyTheTiger

06-14-2010, 12:05 PM

Is anyone else confused that this redesign looks almost the same size as the original? It's a rotten shame when "slimline" versions of consoles are bigger than a Sega Saturn!

Don't have much of a choice in the matter if they were intent on keeping it compatible with existing HDDs. The alternative would have been an extra port with a special wire to connect to old HDDs rather than mounting them on the side. But that would have been pretty dumb considering the HDD is pretty much a necessary component for most people and wiring it up like the HD-DVD drive would be equally aesthetically unpleasing and annoying.

I'd take a "slimline" of near equal size that's just as compatible with all current accessories than an actual slimline with a completely different HDD design.

Dobie

06-14-2010, 12:40 PM

The redesign, if legit, looks like an Alienware PC to me. Not my first choice in pleasing eye candy, but as long as it works, I ultimately don't care what it looks like.

Sonicwolf

06-14-2010, 03:02 PM

The New XBOX360 design was just confirmed and ships... today!?

TonyTheTiger

06-14-2010, 03:03 PM

Pretty good plan, I'd say. They don't have to worry about 360 sales dropping for three months or so if they said "Out in September."

Sonicwolf

06-14-2010, 03:04 PM

Now I have to figure out how to muster up 300 bucks. LOL

megasdkirby

06-14-2010, 03:12 PM

Is the HDD internal?

I just saw the preview on my Xbox console (channel things) and there is a picture showing the 250GB HDD, but internally!

Anyone close to their current Xbox can view this movie...can anyone confirm this, or am I seeing things?

Enigmus

06-14-2010, 03:15 PM

Is anyone else confused that this redesign looks almost the same size as the original? It's a rotten shame when "slimline" versions of consoles are bigger than a Sega Saturn!

I can only wonder how a slimline Wii would be.

Actually, make it more square, and the PC Engine would have a competitior for smallest game system.

The 1 2 P

06-14-2010, 03:27 PM

$299 for a slim model 360 with a 250 hard drive, built in wireless and runs as quiet as a Vanilla Ice concert? Sign me up. I'm glad I heard off on paying $129 for the 250 gb hard drive. I'm getting this instead. Plus, looking at the new model at the show it looked much better than that still photo.

They are going to have to drop the price of the elites to get rid of them though. Probably just to $249 but thats better than nothing.

Bojay1997

06-14-2010, 03:29 PM

I have to say that this is a shocking and wholly unexpected development. Not only have they abandoned many of the basic design elements of the original 360, but they also eliminated potential expansion sales on the wi-fi adapter and hard drives. Not that I'm necessarily complaining, but I'm not totally sure why they went down this path unless they really couldn't fix the RROD and other problems other than through this total redesign.

IcBlUsCrN

06-14-2010, 04:12 PM

Is anyone else confused that this redesign looks almost the same size as the original? It's a rotten shame when "slimline" versions of consoles are bigger than a Sega Saturn!

it actually looks much smaller

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/06/microsoft-xbox-360/

I am just wonder if they will include a adapter to transfer your profile over. Best part no detachable faceplate.

Porksta

06-14-2010, 04:15 PM

I'll be picking this up once I learn a few things:

Matching controller?
Cord ports all the same?
Internal HDD?
Includes HDD transfer cable?

Sonicwolf

06-14-2010, 04:16 PM

I'll be picking this up once I learn a few things:

Matching controller?
Cord ports all the same?
Internal HDD?
Includes HDD transfer cable?

Internal component quality?
Operational integrity?

Porksta

06-14-2010, 04:18 PM

Those don't bother me. Hell, it can be the exact same innards in a new case. I'll still want it.

Sonicwolf

06-14-2010, 04:19 PM

http://media.bestofmicro.com/V/P/251269/original/Picture%201.png

Looks pretty cool.

grolt

06-14-2010, 04:39 PM

The drive is still removeable, it is just smaller and sits inside a covered slot on the side of the console.

As someone who is looking to jump into the PS3, I'm really waiting to see how Sony responds to this. Their 250GB console is $349 versus Xbox's $299, and the Xbox includes a faster wi-fi card. Granted, they still have Blu-ray, but I'd still expect some sort of price match. Or, while I dream, how about bringing back that backwards compatibility?

Frankie_Says_Relax

06-14-2010, 04:44 PM

Porksta

06-14-2010, 04:50 PM

grolt

06-14-2010, 04:55 PM

Source? Is it the same type of hard drive, ie will my 120 fit in it no problem?

No, it is a smaller drive. You'll need a transfer cable to move data from your previous drive, or you can use flash drives through the USB ports. There's a nice Q&A on all the features on the Xbox forums:

http://forums.xbox.com/32975486/ShowPost.aspx

diskoboy

06-14-2010, 05:02 PM

So long, launch 360 :(

Still not impressed by the looks, but the internal hard drive, and Valhalla chipset, and the $199 price (minus the trade in on my original) sold me.

Unfortunately, no one has still verified if it's still MS's HD's, or an off the shelf SATA drive that will be "swappable".

TonyTheTiger

06-14-2010, 05:09 PM

It looks like it got run over by a car. I know it's the angle of the picture with the glare and all but the thing really does look crushed in.

But why did they remove the memory unit ports? I know most people don't use them but it seems like they just took them away for the hell of it.

megasdkirby

06-14-2010, 05:12 PM

Source? Is it the same type of hard drive, ie will my 120 fit in it no problem?

You can also view the demonstration movies on the Xbox console, since many E3 announcements are up on the dashboard.

So long, launch 360 :(

Still not impressed by the looks, but the internal hard drive, and Valhalla chipset, and the $199 price (minus the trade in on my original) sold me.

Unfortunately, no one has still verified if it's still MS's HD's, or an off the shelf SATA drive that will be "swappable".

Isn't it still $299?

Porksta

06-14-2010, 05:12 PM

Looks like I am getting this. More details are coming out and all my questions have been answered. All the same ports plus more (although memory card ports are gone, boohoo), matching glossy controller and chatpad, internal removable HDD, and built in transfer abilities. Good thing I have a lot of Amazon gift cards.

TonyTheTiger

06-14-2010, 05:19 PM

Here's an important question:

How is the D-pad on the new controllers?

garagesaleking!!

06-14-2010, 05:53 PM

I actually think its looks really good. Much better looking than a ps3. The internal wi fi is awesome, but its tough to justify buying a new console when I already have one.

grolt

06-14-2010, 05:54 PM

Unfortunately, no one has still verified if it's still MS's HD's, or an off the shelf SATA drive that will be "swappable".

They show the new internal drive in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7X1bu4uPAA

Looks proprietary, it's definitely not an off-the-shelf unit, but perhaps it is just outfitted in casing that will allow it to connect to the system? Given the small size and the shape, though, I'm 99% sure this is all Microsoft.

diskoboy

06-14-2010, 07:00 PM

They show the new internal drive in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7X1bu4uPAA

Looks proprietary, it's definitely not an off-the-shelf unit, but perhaps it is just outfitted in casing that will allow it to connect to the system? Given the small size and the shape, though, I'm 99% sure this is all Microsoft.

Dammit... That video doesn't make it very clear, either..

It could be an off-the-shelf, in a removable plastic shell... Which I'm hoping is the case.

eskobar

06-14-2010, 07:00 PM

I have avoided the 360 for years but the redesign looks great the console should be much more reliable to warrant a purchase from me

TonyTheTiger

06-14-2010, 07:33 PM

Yeah, I think a lot of people are going to see this as either a perfect time to finally get a 360 or, for current 360 owners, to buy into the peace of mind of having a well engineered one. But for me I have a few more reasons to take the plunge. I'm still rocking a 20GB model with no HDMI.

diskoboy

06-14-2010, 07:35 PM

Isn't it still $299?

You're right... I misread it.

But for $299, it kinda sucks there won't be any pack in games :(

Eternal Tune

06-14-2010, 07:55 PM

I like the redesign. Bitches love shiny, but I wonder how long until it explodes...

heybtbm

06-14-2010, 08:10 PM

For those of you wringing your hands over a "transfer cable"...no need to fret anymore. The latest USB drive update made transferring a moot point. Your saves haven't been tied to Microsoft's ridiculous proprietary HD for a few months now.

Plus, saving to a USB drive and loading the save onto the new HD will be light years faster than the old HD to HD procedure. Those of you who did the whole 20 gig to 120 gig thing with that goofy cable know what I mean.

I'm buying it this weekend...if I can find one.

TonyTheTiger

06-14-2010, 08:14 PM

Don't Xbox Live Arcade downloads have the transfer problem though? Where you need to be signed into Live to play them?

Leo_A

06-14-2010, 08:22 PM

I like it and wouldn't mind upgrading.

Here's an important question:

How is the D-pad on the new controllers?

Microsoft hasn't gotten the d-pad halfway decent over the past 9 years. I doubt they will start now.

Dammit... That video doesn't make it very clear, either..

It could be an off-the-shelf, in a removable plastic shell... Which I'm hoping is the case.

It's Microsoft who has been selling us overpriced standard laptop drives in a proprietary casing for the past 5 years. I'm sure it isn't going to be changing now.

Don't Xbox Live Arcade downloads have the transfer problem though? Where you need to be signed into Live to play them?

What transfer problem? You only have to be signed into XBL to play XBLA games if it isn't the console they were purchased on or if you haven't used the license transfer utility to transfer the purchase license to the new console.

TonyTheTiger

06-14-2010, 08:26 PM

Exactly...

And isn't there a once per year limit on the license transfer process?

The 1 2 P

06-14-2010, 08:37 PM

I'm getting one. My only minor complaint is that they didn't replace that ancient disc loading tray for a slot loading one.

sixwayshot

06-14-2010, 08:38 PM

I'd gladly exchange my old console for a newer one, but I've got a ton of stuff on my hard drive that needs to be transferred. That seems like it'll be a pain in the ass.

Hell, the built-in Wi-fi is enough for me to consider getting it... I wouldn't have to mess with any ethernet cables or anything...

Leo_A

06-14-2010, 09:10 PM

Exactly...

And isn't there a once per year limit on the license transfer process?

Yes

And you also get a free transfer other then the once a year transfer ability any 360 owner has, whenever an official repair necessitates sending back a different console other then the one the licenses were matched to.

But how is this a problem of any significance? If you just recently did the transfer process and decide out of the blue to buy a new console, the worst that happens is you'll have to be logging in to play games for a few months until your able to redo it. Most people with a 360 and an active XBL account with XBLA games would be logging in anyways.

I'd gladly exchange my old console for a newer one, but I've got a ton of stuff on my hard drive that needs to be transferred. That seems like it'll be a pain in the ass.

They're not going to provide transfer cables that can be acquired? The transfer process going from a 20gig to a 120 gig hd was easy enough.

And unless you have a ton of video content, Xbox Originals, and 360 Games on Demand, it's pretty painless just redownloading stuff to a new console. Most XBLA content, patches, and DLC aren't terribly large files.

Greg2600

06-14-2010, 09:14 PM

I think it looks cool, although I'm not a fan of that black glossy plastic, dust sticks to it like bees on honey. Vouch for that with my Dell.

heybtbm

06-14-2010, 09:30 PM

I'm not a fan of that black glossy plastic, dust sticks to it like bees on honey.

Don't forget fingerprints!

TonyTheTiger

06-14-2010, 09:59 PM

Yes

And you also get a free transfer other then the once a year transfer ability any 360 owner has, whenever an official repair necessitates sending back a different console other then the one the licenses were matched to.

But how is this a problem of any significance? If you just recently did the transfer process and decide out of the blue to buy a new console, the worst that happens is you'll have to be logging in to play games for a few months until your able to redo it. Most people with a 360 and an active XBL account with XBLA games would be logging in anyways.

Sure, but don't you think it's pretty annoying when they're basically telling existing customers "Yo, come upgrade!"