E3 2010: Sony Press Conference Thread

[GrandAmChandler]

Sony Press Conference for this year's E3 starts today. Post all discussion relating to it here.

Want to watch? Check it out Live at IGN: http://e3.ign.com/2010/live/

-GAC-

EDIT: Join us today in #vbender to chat about today's press conference! Link: http://www.digitpress.com/irc/

[Oobgarm]

All I want is a solid date for Gran Turismo 5. That is all.

Demonstrating MGS Rising with the Move controller could be cool as well.

[GrandAmChandler]

All I want is a solid date for Gran Turismo 5. That is all.

12/12/12

[kupomogli]

GT5 is going to be on the PS5. Haven't you heard?

[TonyTheTiger]

Funny how Nintendo sort of stole Sony's thunder here. A couple hours ago Nintendo is all "Fuck glasses! No need!" Now Kaz Hirai is all "Put your glasses on for some 3D!"

[GrandAmChandler]

SO Playstation Move = Wiimote + XBOX Live Vision cam?

[TonyTheTiger]

Wow, the crowd's reaction at the prices...

Move controller = $49.99. Huge cheers.
Then the OTHER part of the controller = $29.99. Dead silence.

[megasdkirby]

Wow, the crowd's reaction at the prices...

Move controller = $49.99. Huge cheers.
Then the OTHER part of the controller = $29.99. Dead silence.

What other part of the controller? The camera?

If I already had the camera, does that mean it's only $49.99?

[NayusDante]

Never thought I'd say it, but...

That kid makes me miss Chad Warden.

[TonyTheTiger]

No, the other part that's equivalent to the Wii's nunchaku.

[Enigmus]

12/12/12

More like 12/21/12.

Wow, anyone ever notice how there's a pattern in that end world date that spells "bullshit?"

12=12-21=12 backwards-12=12
Whoever made it up is as dumb as Sony's philosophy.

[megasdkirby]

No, the other part that's equivalent to the Wii's nunchaku.

Ah ok, thanks!

So it's basically $80. Damn it.

[Enigmus]

Ah ok, thanks!

So it's basically $80. Damn it.

And just when you think $70 just for one Wiimote and Nunchuck is a price gouging, Sony comes out, hits you in the face with a glasses-required 3DTV, and tells you theirs is $80 just for no wires and a color-changing lightbulb, and- oh, wait! Forgot the goddamn $40 camera! Add in the 3DTV, and the total comes out to foreclosure and/or bankruptcy! Yay for Sony! :angry:

[GrandAmChandler]

Ah ok, thanks!

So it's basically $80. Damn it.

$80 + you need the Playstation Eye to make it all work.

[TonyTheTiger]

Which is another $39.99. So starting from scratch the entire setup will cost $120. Yeah...:shameful:

[LiquidPolicenaut]

Wow. Even the $99.99 package (which includes the "wand", camera and a game) STILL needs the other controller, which is another $29.99! hmmm...

Only things I noticed that looked interesting to me were:

- Time Crisis Razing Storm thats compatible with the Move (Wow, what a waste the GunCon 3 was, huh?) and I HOPE Namco will make all older PSOne/PS2 lightgun games compatible with the Move.

- Quick teaser for God of War Ghost of Sparta on the PSP

- Seeing Ys: Oath in Felghana as part of the PSP video..yet, oddly, not Ys 7...

[megasdkirby]

$80 + you need the Playstation Eye to make it all work.

Ah yes.

Thank goodness I scored my cam for cheap. :)

[NayusDante]

The only title to catch my eye so far has been Oath in Felghana, and we already knew about that. This is REALLY lame.


And now EA is on stage again. Words cannot express how lame this conference is so far.

[TonyTheTiger]

Was that Boxing with Sackboy?

:hail:

[NayusDante]

Did he say unlockable beards?

[Sonicwolf]

Did he say unlockable beards?

Yes he certainly did.

[NayusDante]

Was that Boxing with Sackboy?

:hail:

Yes, that was 2600 boxing. Still, I don't see anything you can't do in Kodu. Heck, it's all been done before anyway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klik).

[NayusDante]

So... Dead Space 2 is a movie you watch while you hold a controller. Did he do ANYTHING?

[NayusDante]

I thought Valve programming on PS... Where's the cake?

[FxMercenary]

Which is another $39.99. So starting from scratch the entire setup will cost $120. Yeah...:shameful:

I already own the camera, so $79.98 for the wand and other controller without any games or am I incorrect?

Also whats up with the Playstation 3 Plus?

[LiquidPolicenaut]

I already own the camera, so $79.98 for the wand and other controller without any games or am I incorrect?

Also whats up with the Playstation 3 Plus?

In regards to the MOVE pricing, you are absolutely right...sadly

Playstation Plus made me laugh. Not 2 minutes earlier did he say that you get all this stuff on the PSN that on other systems you pay $50 for THEN he goes and says PSN Plus is also $50 a year but includes some extra offers like coupons, early demos, etc...

[gamedude45]

playstation Plus made me laugh. Not 2 minutes earlier did he say that you get all this stuff on the PSN that on other systems you pay $50 for THEN he goes and says PSN Plus is also $50 a year but includes some extra offers like coupons, early demos, etc...

If what I heard was correct everything you get for free now you will still get for free after they start this new psn plus sevice.

P.S. new Twisted Metal! :D

[LiquidPolicenaut]

If what I heard was correct everything you get for free now you will still get for free after they start this new psn plus sevice.

P.S. new Twisted Metal! :D

Yup, you're right. I should have worded my reply better..

Nice to see Twisted Metal again as well...

[Sonicwolf]

I didnt see anything about Gran Turismo 5... Did I miss something?

[Cloud121]

I didnt see anything about Gran Turismo 5... Did I miss something?
November 2, 2010.

[NayusDante]

I didnt see anything about Gran Turismo 5... Did I miss something?

Yes, I swear they talked about it twice...


I'm really disappointed with Sony. It's just more of the same, with nothing innovative. The PS Move demos were just as lame as the Kinect demos.

[The 1 2 P]

I haven't watched this yet but it sounds pretty disappointing so far. Any mention of DC Universe?

[TonyTheTiger]

Yes, but it was just in passing. That's really all Sony's conference was. A bunch of games mentioned in passing.

[NayusDante]

They showed a few seconds of DC universe in an "upcoming games" montage. I wish they had shown it rather than half of the other crap they showed.

[grolt]

I missed it...any talk about console bundles or price drops or anything like that?

[NayusDante]

Nothing.


They haven't shown Castlevania at all, beyond the 3-second clip in a montage. Even the guys on the floor seem to be avoiding it.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I missed it...any talk about console bundles or price drops or anything like that?

There will be a PS3 system Move bundle for $399.

PS3, Dual Shock 3, Move Wand, PS Eye camera, & Move Sports Champions.

[Rob2600]

And just when you think $70 just for one Wiimote and Nunchuck is a price gouging, Sony comes out, hits you in the face with a glasses-required 3DTV, and tells you theirs is $80 just for no wires and a color-changing lightbulb, and- oh, wait! Forgot the goddamn $40 camera! Add in the 3DTV, and the total comes out to foreclosure and/or bankruptcy! Yay for Sony! :angry:

According to Ken Kutaragi:

"PS3 is for consumers to think to themselves, 'I will work more hours to buy one.'"


More Kutaragi quotes (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1173589&postcount=10)

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

According to Ken Kutaragi:

"PS3 is for consumers to think to themselves, 'I will work more hours to buy one.'"


More Kutaragi quotes (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1173589&postcount=10)

Kutaragi would have probably charged $100 per wand!

Thank god we've got Kevin Butler making all the important decisions these days.

http://the-games-master.com/game-files/2010/03/kevin-butler-playstation-move.jpg

He needs his own game.

[YoshiM]

There will be a PS3 system Move bundle for $399.

PS3, Dual Shock 3, Move Wand, PS Eye camera, & Move Sports Champions.

And no Navigation controller with said bundle. Lame.

[BHvrd]

Twisted Metal = Sold.

I also really liked that Sorcerer game for Move, I can see myself honestly playing that one. Tiger Woods also worked fairly well.

I agree that I also wish they would have shown more on DC Universe Online as I consider it a key game atm for me. Kinda makes me wonder and worry. I really like the concept but at this point i'm worried that the execution may not have enough content or something is wrong with it since they didn't show anything.

[NayusDante]

Sorcerer looks like some kind of tech demo that SCE USA cooked up (the crappy framerate reminds me of EQ2...). It's nothing that the Wii can't do, and the changing colors on the controller might get distracting. At $39.95, I can't really complain that much, but it doesn't strike me as the killer app for Move. Show me Elder Scrolls V with PS Move and I'll be interested. Heck, I wouldn't have minded seeing an Eye Pet demo onstage.

I've never played Twisted Metal, but I must admit that it looks like a fun multiplayer game. I wouldn't buy it at launch price, but it looks interesting enough to keep in mind.


The Ico rumors were false, and instead we get Sly Cooper. Was that even any good? I'm also surprised at Not Another Preteen Platformer (whatever they called it...). Sony is definitely pushing the mass market with those characters, who have occupied the Greatest Hits rack at Target since PS2 launch. There was nothing whatsoever to show that Sony cares about niche games, and there was a definite skew toward "big, American, manly" games.

[kupomogli]

Thank god we've got Kevin Butler making all the important decisions these days.

Kevin Butler is awesome and all, but the portion of the E3 press conference that he was stupid. It wasn't funny, and it was a waste of time that Sony could have put forth towards presenting other games.

E3 was Kevin Butlers worse performance yet. And yes. I'm aware that E3 was a live event.

[swlovinist]

Sony announced some decent games. Twisted Metal is a must! I am glad that their base online gaming will still be free. The move looks like a retarded flight control wand. Bottom line is that their is enough to be happy about, but for me the whole move controller is a negative.

[jonebone]

Sony announced some decent games. Twisted Metal is a must! I am glad that their base online gaming will still be free. The move looks like a retarded flight control wand. Bottom line is that their is enough to be happy about, but for me the whole move controller is a negative.

Ding!

I've held off on buying a PS3 to date (own a 360 / Wii though) but it is to the point where I need one now. I want to play games like God of War 3, 3D Dot Heroes, Little Big Planet, etc. but the collector in me wants to hunt and find a backwards compatible PS3 for under $200. Of course I just missed on on the local CL last week for $100 (Damn).

BUT, if I still don't have a PS3 when Twisted Metal comes out, I will pay full price for a PS3 system and full price for the TM game. TM2 is definitely in my favorite games all time, absolutely love the series.

[NayusDante]

E3 was Kevin Butlers worse performance yet. And yes.

Kevin Butler doesn't perform, he's a character. Jerry Lambert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lambert_%28actor%29) does.

Why does he need a stage name? Is Jerry Lambert not manly enough for Sony's marketing campaign?

[Trebuken]

Sorry, liked Kevin Butler.

Sony seems to have glosed over multi-platform titles - and GT5.

Nothing came across as new at the Sony conference, accept maybe the Move stuff, but I wasn't disappointed...

[kupomogli]

Kevin Butler doesn't perform, he's a character. Jerry Lambert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lambert_%28actor%29) does.

Maybe I should have said his performance at E3 was his worse performance as Kevin Butler. I didn't know his name though anyways.

Also. I just watched Sony's entire E3 press conference last night on the Playstation Home because I didn't want to watch it in small bits and pieces on Youtube so watched the full thing there. I think the press conference sucked. Most of the time it was speaking about 3d technology which I really don't care about. Then a long time showing off Killzone 3. There was the move which I still wasn't interested in after they showed off their games. I'll pick it up when it goes on sale for the entire package, but it's a novelty item and nothing more. Medal of Honor, generic fps #30473 comes with an HD version of Medal of Honor Frontline, generic fps #10112. Woopty doo. They spent at least five minutes promoting a deal with Coke to sell the Move. After all the crap. PSP getting a lot of support until the end of this year and showing some good games(in the trailer only) and then Twisted Metal.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I completely disagree about the Kevin Butler spot.

I thought it was pretty hysterical and well delivered ... IMO he's the coolest video game executive that isn't really a video game executive.

Maybe I just have a soft spot for fictional video game executives since I was portraying one years before Sony dreamt up Mr. Butler.

But, if nobody told you that he WASN'T really an executive employee of Sony, or any game company for that matter ... couldn't you believe that he was?

With the cast of REAL "characters" out there like Gabe Newell, Major Nelson, Reggie, Kojima, etc. etc. he fits right in. He's basically spouting the stuff tongue-in-cheek that the rest of the bunch try to spew with saccharin sincerity each and every E3, and I find it much more fun watching him do it.

For anybody who missed it, here's his speech. Worth a look.

http://kotaku.com/5565366/kevin-butler-vp-of-gamer-inspiration

[TonyTheTiger]

I knew he was an actor only because I recognized him from Everybody Loves Raymond but I didn't know that his name wasn't actually Kevin Butler.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I knew he was an actor only because I recognized him from Everybody Loves Raymond but I didn't know that his name wasn't actually Kevin Butler.

http://media.pegasusnews.com/img/photos/2008/06/11/Jon-Lovitz-ACTING_t250.jpg

[Rob2600]

For anybody who missed it, here's his speech. Worth a look.

http://kotaku.com/5565366/kevin-butler-vp-of-gamer-inspiration

That was pretty good. I must point out something "Kevin" said near the end:

"Every gamer is a true gamer. Motion gamers, sitting gamers...everyone."


I hope that puts an end to the stupid hardcore vs. casual debate.

[NayusDante]

While I tend to play more games on Sony platforms, this year's E3 has reinforced my greater respect for Nintendo. The faces of Nintendo (Fils-Aime, Iwata, and Miyamoto) are sincere, concise, and sympathetic to the gamer and non-gamer. They're not actors, but they know how to work on stage. Miyamoto is a bit more reserved than the others, but Sony could stand to learn from his subdued presence.

Kevin Butler works well for an ad or two, but I don't think he's good for the long term. Having him give a monologue on stage at E3 is nice to reinforce the campaign, but hearing him reach out to causal gamers is awkward. Casual gamers are not enthusiasts, so an enthusiast icon isn't the right person to claim otherwise.

I'm actually pretty turned off to Sony's brand image now. Their press conference reeked of testosterone and elitism. Microsoft fared a little better, but they seemed to drift toward the extreems of hardcore and casual. Nintendo just wants to have fun, and if I'm not mistaken, that's what gaming is about.

[DigitalSpace]

Nice to hear about a new Twisted Metal game, but Sony didn't do much else to change my lack of interest in the PS3.

[TonyTheTiger]

Kevin Butler works well for an ad or two, but I don't think he's good for the long term. Having him give a monologue on stage at E3 is nice to reinforce the campaign, but hearing him reach out to causal gamers is awkward. Casual gamers are not enthusiasts, so an enthusiast icon isn't the right person to claim otherwise.

It's hard to do that with anybody under Sony's umbrella though. Kevin Butler is at least recognizable from all the fun commercials. But Sony doesn't have a Miyamoto equivalent, who is the closest thing to the Walt Disney of the video game industry. I think they did the best they could with what they had to work with. I think what made Sony's event awkward wasn't Kevin Butler or even the games they presented. It's that it's really hard to not sound silly when you're so obviously biting off of something Nintendo did and simultaneously claiming "the future!"

[mEgAsHoT]

This may be a little late on the subject, but it hasn't been asked. I noticed that some gaming sites were saying that games like the upcoming Killzone 3 will run in "native 3D". What does that mean? Does it mean that I HAVE to buy a 3DTV in order to play it? Or can I still play it on whatever TV I have? I know it sounds dumb, but it's a legitimate concern from me. I don't even have an HDTV, and now they are wanting people to get 3DTV's? No thanks.

[TonyTheTiger]

You'll need a 3D TV. It pretty much requires a TV that can run 120fps and can synchronize with shutter glasses. It's not absurdly complicated technology but it isn't something that can be done with ordinary HD TVs.

[mEgAsHoT]

You'll need a 3D TV. It pretty much requires a TV that can run 120fps and can synchronize with shutter glasses.

Wow if that's true, then Sony has really jumped the shark here. I would think that because so many people don't have 3D sets, they would at least make the game playable without it...it would be foolish not to do so. They are basically shooting themselves in the foot with that.

[diskoboy]

You'll need a 3D TV. It pretty much requires a TV that can run 120fps and can synchronize with shutter glasses. It's not absurdly complicated technology but it isn't something that can be done with ordinary HD TVs.

Actually, all 3-D TV's (I've seen) are 240hz.

120FPS per eye.

[Bojay1997]

You'll need a 3D TV. It pretty much requires a TV that can run 120fps and can synchronize with shutter glasses. It's not absurdly complicated technology but it isn't something that can be done with ordinary HD TVs.

You'll need a 3D TV to play the game in 3D. It will work fine as well on a 2D set, without the 3D effect, of course. All "Native 3D" means is that the content was designed to be 3D to begin with and wasn't converted into 3D from a 2D source.

[diskoboy]

November 2, 2010.

I'll believe it when I finally have a copy in my hands.

I've had my heart broken too many times, already.. ;)

And on a seperate note, I am extremely happy with Sony's $40 price tag for a Move controller.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

You'll need a 3D TV. It pretty much requires a TV that can run 120fps and can synchronize with shutter glasses. It's not absurdly complicated technology but it isn't something that can be done with ordinary HD TVs.

You won't need a 3DTV to play the game, you'll need a 3DTV to play the game IN 3D.

As others have confirmed, the game will have a standard 2D mode as well.

[mEgAsHoT]

You won't need a 3DTV to play the game, you'll need a 3DTV to play the game IN 3D.

As others have confirmed, the game will have a standard 2D mode as well.

Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing up the confusion! That's good to hear.

[TonyTheTiger]

Actually, all 3-D TV's (I've seen) are 240hz.

120FPS per eye.

Did not know that. I thought it was 60fps per eye.


You'll need a 3D TV to play the game in 3D. It will work fine as well on a 2D set, without the 3D effect, of course. All "Native 3D" means is that the content was designed to be 3D to begin with and wasn't converted into 3D from a 2D source.

Misunderstood the question. I thought he was asking if he needed a 3D TV to play the game in 3D.

[duffmanth]

I'm just glad there's finally a release date for Gran Turismo 5! Overall I thought Sony's conference was very impressive. Most of the big exclusives were there along with the best multi platform games to. I don't know why we didn't hear anything on the Last Guardian? Twisted Metal looked very cool though : ) I still don't know what to think about Move and the whole 3D thing? I still think this whole motion sensing is a gimmick, but if Sony can release quality games that takes advantage of motion sensing, I might be more inclined to purchase Move?

As far as Playstation Plus goes, I don't care about it all. The new PSP ad campaign looks pretty cool, hopefully it'll convince people that the PSP has a lot of great games? They still need to drop the price of the go and find a way for people to transfer their UMD's over to it or it's toast.

[BHvrd]

I hope that puts an end to the stupid hardcore vs. casual debate.

As long as we all agree that Kinect is casual and Motion is hardcore, sure. :D

I mean after all arms and necks are important features.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/Kevin_Butler.jpghttp://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/2thumbs.gif

[NayusDante]

I mean after all arms and necks are important features.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/Kevin_Butler.jpg

Hey, what platforms is the new Rayman on again?