View Full Version : Wipeout HD in 3D - I'm a believer!
Ok, I know there is alot of hate out there for this whole 3D push, but I'm telling ya... after playing Wipeout HD in 3D, I'm a total believer in this 3D future. The sensation was amazing to me while experiencing it for the first time. Prior to Wipeout HD ever receiving a 3D facelift, I always thought that it was one of the best games I've played this generation. Maybe it wasn't a hyped up, major retail release (being a downloadable PSN game) , but Wipeout HD is well worth every single penny, even if it was priced much higher. I'm a huge fan of the game, and have put countless hours into it. The non-3D visuals have always been outstanding, representing some of the highest graphical achievements on the PS3 so far.
So, I play it tonight for the first time in stunning 3D, and let me tell you... it was jaw dropping. I've seen some mediocre 3D out there, but this definitely doesn't qualify as mediocre. This is some absolutely legit 3D. The display that was being used was a Panasonic TC-P50VT20 50 inch plasma. The 3D Panasonic plasmas are well known right now as the best 3D displays available. Wipeout HD, in 3D, on the Panny plasma was like stepping into another world. It was like I was "inside" the world of Wipeout.
When the race is over, and it shows the replay, you get to see so much more detail in the world of Wipeout. I've seen things in five minutes of playing it in 3D, that I never noticed in countless hours playing it normally. Details are everywhere, and when playing in 3D, they are more noticeable. This isn't something that is only perceptible during replays either. The effect is strong during the actual race itself. It's just you're blazing along so fast, that it's hard to take in all the visual splendor.
We had the music really cranked up, and this, combined with the 3D visuals, was sensory overload. I seriously started to think that this is the first thing that I've seen that really seems future-like. I mean, we are in the year 2010, and as a little kid during the 80's, this is kinda what I imagined things would be like in the future. It really is a glimpse into the future of gaming.
We also played a demo of MLB 10: The Show in 3D, and it was another showcase game displaying off what 3D brings to the table. Again, like stepping into the virtual world. It's like you climb inside your TV, and you can sit there and look at the MLB world, as a live spectator. It's like being at the actual event, rather than watching it from a remote perspective. Hard to explain, but the immersion is really pumped up. Those are the only two games we have played in 3D so far. I hope to try Super Stardust HD and Motorstorm: Pacific Rift soon.
j_factor
06-19-2010, 02:07 AM
We had the music really cranked up, and this, combined with the 3D visuals, was sensory overload.
Sounds like we need Rez in 3D. Synaesthesia.
otoko
06-19-2010, 03:12 AM
Sounds like we need Rez in 3D. Synaesthesia.
My brain would explode!
Oldskool
06-19-2010, 04:45 AM
Wow, sounds like fun, do you have to wear a head set virtual reality style or was it like the 3DS? I have no idea, I have yet to experience modern 3D.
Ok, I know there is alot of hate out there for this whole 3D push, but I'm telling ya... after playing Wipeout HD in 3D, I'm a total believer in this 3D future. The sensation was amazing to me while experiencing it for the first time. Prior to Wipeout HD ever receiving a 3D facelift, I always thought that it was one of the best games I've played this generation. Maybe it wasn't a hyped up, major retail release (being a downloadable PSN game) , but Wipeout HD is well worth every single penny, even if it was priced much higher. I'm a huge fan of the game, and have put countless hours into it. The non-3D visuals have always been outstanding, representing some of the highest graphical achievements on the PS3 so far.
So, I play it tonight for the first time in stunning 3D, and let me tell you... it was jaw dropping. I've seen some mediocre 3D out there, but this definitely doesn't qualify as mediocre. This is some absolutely legit 3D. The display that was being used was a Panasonic TC-P50VT20 50 inch plasma. The 3D Panasonic plasmas are well known right now as the best 3D displays available. Wipeout HD, in 3D, on the Panny plasma was like stepping into another world. It was like I was "inside" the world of Wipeout.
When the race is over, and it shows the replay, you get to see so much more detail in the world of Wipeout. I've seen things in five minutes of playing it in 3D, that I never noticed in countless hours playing it normally. Details are everywhere, and when playing in 3D, they are more noticeable. This isn't something that is only perceptible during replays either. The effect is strong during the actual race itself. It's just you're blazing along so fast, that it's hard to take in all the visual splendor.
We had the music really cranked up, and this, combined with the 3D visuals, was sensory overload. I seriously started to think that this is the first thing that I've seen that really seems future-like. I mean, we are in the year 2010, and as a little kid during the 80's, this is kinda what I imagined things would be like in the future. It really is a glimpse into the future of gaming.
We also played a demo of MLB 10: The Show in 3D, and it was another showcase game displaying off what 3D brings to the table. Again, like stepping into the virtual world. It's like you climb inside your TV, and you can sit there and look at the MLB world, as a live spectator. It's like being at the actual event, rather than watching it from a remote perspective. Hard to explain, but the immersion is really pumped up. Those are the only two games we have played in 3D so far. I hope to try Super Stardust HD and Motorstorm: Pacific Rift soon.
crazyjackcsa
06-19-2010, 07:36 AM
Ok, I know there is alot of hate out there for this whole 3D push, but I'm telling ya... after playing Wipeout HD in 3D, I'm a total believer in this 3D future. The sensation was amazing to me while experiencing it for the first time. Prior to Wipeout HD ever receiving a 3D facelift, I always thought that it was one of the best games I've played this generation. Maybe it wasn't a hyped up, major retail release (being a downloadable PSN game) , but Wipeout HD is well worth every single penny, even if it was priced much higher. I'm a huge fan of the game, and have put countless hours into it. The non-3D visuals have always been outstanding, representing some of the highest graphical achievements on the PS3 so far.
So, I play it tonight for the first time in stunning 3D, and let me tell you... it was jaw dropping. I've seen some mediocre 3D out there, but this definitely doesn't qualify as mediocre. This is some absolutely legit 3D. The display that was being used was a Panasonic TC-P50VT20 50 inch plasma. The 3D Panasonic plasmas are well known right now as the best 3D displays available. Wipeout HD, in 3D, on the Panny plasma was like stepping into another world. It was like I was "inside" the world of Wipeout.
When the race is over, and it shows the replay, you get to see so much more detail in the world of Wipeout. I've seen things in five minutes of playing it in 3D, that I never noticed in countless hours playing it normally. Details are everywhere, and when playing in 3D, they are more noticeable. This isn't something that is only perceptible during replays either. The effect is strong during the actual race itself. It's just you're blazing along so fast, that it's hard to take in all the visual splendor.
We had the music really cranked up, and this, combined with the 3D visuals, was sensory overload. I seriously started to think that this is the first thing that I've seen that really seems future-like. I mean, we are in the year 2010, and as a little kid during the 80's, this is kinda what I imagined things would be like in the future. It really is a glimpse into the future of gaming.
We also played a demo of MLB 10: The Show in 3D, and it was another showcase game displaying off what 3D brings to the table. Again, like stepping into the virtual world. It's like you climb inside your TV, and you can sit there and look at the MLB world, as a live spectator. It's like being at the actual event, rather than watching it from a remote perspective. Hard to explain, but the immersion is really pumped up. Those are the only two games we have played in 3D so far. I hope to try Super Stardust HD and Motorstorm: Pacific Rift soon.
Reading this post is the first time I've ever thought to myself: This guy could be a corporate shill.
poloplayr
06-19-2010, 08:18 AM
Reading this post is the first time I've ever thought to myself: This guy could be a corporate shill.
Echo that.
Every time someone raves about how amazing 3D is, I remember how underwhelmed I was when watching 3D movies in theaters (I'm looking at you Avatar) and those 3D TV demos at stores. It's just a fad plain and simple, people will get over it once the novelty wears off. Only thing I see coming from it is everyone getting a headache and game prices getting jacked up because they're in "glorious" 3D.
walrusmonger
06-19-2010, 09:32 AM
I was impressed with Avatar, but I wasn't so impressed with the HD Samsung tv I saw at Best Buy.
If 3D is still in the market a few years from now when I upgrade from my ancient 720p tv (a haggard 3 years old), I will buy one since you can always turn off the 3D.
Frankie_Says_Relax
06-19-2010, 10:10 AM
A major problem with "marketing" 3D gaming is that people NEED to put the glasses on, sit down, and experience a GOOD EXAMPLE of the technology.
If we can't get our hands on a regular 2D game demo, most of us are satisfied with photos and video to make a decision about whether or not we'll enjoy the product.
3D simply can't be conveyed by any other means than a full on product demonstration.
I'm sure that we're going to see Sony pump a lot of money into "demo kiosks" at retail in the months to come ... but no matter how good the word of mouth is on the product (and as somebody who embraces all facets of gaming, I DO think it's awesome that WCP has found themselves enjoying a well made 3D game) this is going to be a very very difficult thing to sell, even WITH great word of mouth.
Eventually 3D will be a standard feature in TVs, and to some it'll be as much of an after-thought as picture-in-picture ... but I thnk that when and only when it's standard will we really see game developers embrace it and/or REALLY get innovative with it.
Greg2600
06-19-2010, 12:07 PM
The 3D films I've seen lately are good uses of the technology, but those were in REAL-D or IMAX theaters. Haven't seen any on one of the 3D televisions yet. However, after a 3D movie in the theater of 2 hours, my eyes are really worn out. I cannot see myself or most people, being able to watch a movie or play a video game frequently. So the TV's have to do something that doesn't tire your eyes out.
^That's possibly another area where the 3DS wins. Portable gaming is more suitable to playing in short bursts. I think really what makes the 3DS interesting here is at the price Nintendo will release it at it's an affordable foray into 3D. Depending on how it turns out you'll get to see if it's worth paying for a 3DTV.
skaar
06-19-2010, 06:27 PM
3DS actually felt less portable, at least for the 3D aspect. I spent a lot of time adjusting the 3D slider and moving the unit closer and farther from my face to actually have the 3D "work"
Games with scores or information or anything happening that wasn't dead center on the screen took time to refocus my eyes to actually read. ie Starfox. Looking up and down between the top and bottom screens also needed a refocus.
Think when you watch 3D movies in the theater. To really experience the 3D you need to let your eyes kinda relax. Now picture watching a subtitled movie in 3D. Imagine the headache.
Greg2600
06-19-2010, 07:54 PM
I think we just have to wait for holographics.
Reading this post is the first time I've ever thought to myself: This guy could be a corporate shill.
WTF??
Do a search on all my posts and read them if you really think that.
Believe me, I've seen some shitty 3D. In fact, the first time I saw these new 3Dtv's was at Best Buy. They had a Samsung LCD 3Dtv that looked like absolute crap. They were playing a 3D Blu Ray version of Monsters vs. Aliens, and the 3D quality was laughable. I thought to myself that if this is the new 3D, then they can totally forget about mass adoption, because it ain't gonna happen.
It turns out that the Samsungs just aren't very good, and it isn't a fault of 3D itself, but the quality of the display. When you see the 3D on a Panasonic plasma, it's like a night and day difference between the demo I got on the Samsung. The Panasonic 3D was super legit, and it just worked, and worked well. If I'm a corporate shill of anything, then I guess it would be the Panasonic plasmas, because they really have blown me away with their 3D quality.
The sad thing is, that if you see crappy 3D, then you think the entire technology is a joke. So, a lot of the people seeing 3D demos of the Samsungs are probably coming away from the experience underwhelmed. I've heard that the first wave of the Sony 3Dtv's are kinda lame as well. All I can say is check out a demo of 3D on one of the new Panasonics, and I'm sure you'll be somewhat amazed at what you're seeing. Especially if you can see Wipeout HD in 3D. That is a real killer app as far as 3D is concerned. I still haven't checked out Super Stardust HD or Motorstorm Pacific Rift in 3D, so I'll see how those turn out.
kupomogli
06-20-2010, 12:29 AM
I still haven't checked out Super Stardust HD or Motorstorm Pacific Rift in 3D, so I'll see how those turn out.
The reason why Wipeout HD is probably good in 3d is because it's a racing game.
I'm sure a standard racing game such as Gran Turismo 5 or Test Drive Unlimited 2 being in 3d will probably look better due to the cockpit mode. The cockpit mode is obviously designed to make you feel like you're in the vehicle. Pair that with 3d and a racing wheel accessory for possibly the best racing experience ever?
*edit*
Unfortunately Test Drive Unlimited 2 won't be in 3d unless they add it in the next few months. So if it really is that amazing then the best racing game will be the best non 3d racing game.
The reason why Wipeout HD is probably good in 3d is because it's a racing game.
I'm sure a standard racing game such as Gran Turismo 5 or Test Drive Unlimited 2 being in 3d will probably look better due to the cockpit mode. The cockpit mode is obviously designed to make you feel like you're in the vehicle. Pair that with 3d and a racing wheel accessory for possibly the best racing experience ever?
You know the funny thing is, I've now played two 3D racers (Wipeout and Pacific Rift) and I haven't tried the cockpit view in either game. All my gaming career, I've used the behind the car/ship view. I'm not sure why, but I've always been like that. Still, I should definitely try cockpit for a little bit the next time I play them.
I think having the behind the car view might actually be better in 3D though, because of the fact that the car basically looks like it is kinda popping out of the screen, and then the track looks like it's going into the screen with a convincing sense of depth. It's a great combination, that lends itself well to basically all racing games.
Ok.... So, I tried out the other two games today. Super Stardust HD and Motorstorm: Pacific Rift. First, I tried Super Stardust. The game asks you if you want to play in 3D mode, and you select yes, and then all of a sudden there is this tremendous sensation of depth going out into space. It's really freaky just to look at the title screen, and see the stars out in space. Mesmerizing. Then the game starts. Man, I've played a crapton of Super Stardust, and the sensation was just like Wipeout for me. It felt like I was hovering out in space, watching everything take place from a much different vantage point. The Asteroids would rotate around the planet in a way that was absolutely fascinating. The 3D effect is immediately impressive. The 360 degree nature of the game lends itself perfectly to the third dimension.
Up next was Motorstorm. Wowzers.... Pacific Rift is easily the most impressive 3D that I've seen thus far. Super Stardust and Wipeout HD are very, very close, but Pacific Rift reigns supreme, for the moment at least.. This game freaking blew me away. Really, the main thing that stood out to me, was the fact that you could just see so damn far into the screen. Like, you would look "into" the screen, and see the track unfolding before you, with about a half-mile range of vision.
One worry about this, is that I think it could possibly make the game too easy, because you can see the twists and turns that are coming up so much better. You can really see into the distance much more, and be able to know how the pathway is defined.
I need to play much more of these four 3D games to get a better feel for how all of them perform after more extensive playtesting. Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, is only a demo, and it's only one track. That is one thing that really sucks about these four games, two of them are only demos. MLB '10: The Show is the same way. I don't own either retail game, but was planning on going to the store and picking them up, but for whatever reason, the 3D is only working in the demos. I'm not sure why they don't have an update to the full versions of those games.
crazyjackcsa
06-20-2010, 05:57 AM
WTF??
Do a search on all my posts and read them if you really think that.
Believe me, I've seen some shitty 3D. In fact, the first time I saw these new 3Dtv's was at Best Buy. They had a Samsung LCD 3Dtv that looked like absolute crap. They were playing a 3D Blu Ray version of Monsters vs. Aliens, and the 3D quality was laughable. I thought to myself that if this is the new 3D, then they can totally forget about mass adoption, because it ain't gonna happen.
It turns out that the Samsungs just aren't very good, and it isn't a fault of 3D itself, but the quality of the display. When you see the 3D on a Panasonic plasma, it's like a night and day difference between the demo I got on the Samsung. The Panasonic 3D was super legit, and it just worked, and worked well. If I'm a corporate shill of anything, then I guess it would be the Panasonic plasmas, because they really have blown me away with their 3D quality.
The sad thing is, that if you see crappy 3D, then you think the entire technology is a joke. So, a lot of the people seeing 3D demos of the Samsungs are probably coming away from the experience underwhelmed. I've heard that the first wave of the Sony 3Dtv's are kinda lame as well. All I can say is check out a demo of 3D on one of the new Panasonics, and I'm sure you'll be somewhat amazed at what you're seeing. Especially if you can see Wipeout HD in 3D. That is a real killer app as far as 3D is concerned. I still haven't checked out Super Stardust HD or Motorstorm Pacific Rift in 3D, so I'll see how those turn out.
I stand by what I said, the post reads like a sales brochure for 3D. Either way, that's one huge boner you have for 3D.
Leo_A
06-20-2010, 07:19 AM
I stand by what I said, the post reads like a sales brochure for 3D. Either way, that's one huge boner you have for 3D.
Learn some manners. There's nothing wrong with his excitement. Myself and probably others appreciate his first hand impressions. If you don't, move along please.
boatofcar
06-20-2010, 08:44 AM
Learn some manners. There's nothing wrong with his excitement. Myself and probably others appreciate his first hand impressions. If you don't, move along please.
This. I'm glad to see people excited about new tech, whether it's something I'm personally into or not.
Hep038
06-20-2010, 08:53 AM
I remember how silly I thought it was when games complained about HD for thew new systems. They said how it did not add to the game, how much more it would cost, how Nintendo was smart not to have it. I always thought they either did not like Microsoft and Sony or just did not want to spend the cash to upgrade to HD. Well not with this 3D crap coming out , I am starting to see their point.
Mr Mort
06-20-2010, 10:19 AM
I'm a little pissed at this whole 3D gaming thing. I just recently was able to afford an HDTV and now the push is being made for 3D gaming, which will likely require me to buy a new TV if I want to take advantage of it.
Is there some sort of FAQ out there that will tell you what requirements your HDTV needs to meet to be able to do 3D gaming?
My HDTV is only a 720p TV, so I think that's out of the question, and there's no way I'm shelling out more money after having just bought a nice TV to buy another one for 3D stuff.
Look at how slow advancements were in regards to television. We basically had color 480i for about 40-50 years before HDTV came out. HDTV is only now starting to see real market penetration and they're now pushing 3DTV less than a decade after introducing HDTV. Seems a bit rushed to me.
I'm a little pissed at this whole 3D gaming thing. I just recently was able to afford an HDTV and now the push is being made for 3D gaming, which will likely require me to buy a new TV if I want to take advantage of it.
Is there some sort of FAQ out there that will tell you what requirements your HDTV needs to meet to be able to do 3D gaming?
My HDTV is only a 720p TV, so I think that's out of the question, and there's no way I'm shelling out more money after having just bought a nice TV to buy another one for 3D stuff.
Look at how slow advancements were in regards to television. We basically had color 480i for about 40-50 years before HDTV came out. HDTV is only now starting to see real market penetration and they're now pushing 3DTV less than a decade after introducing HDTV. Seems a bit rushed to me.
Yeah, I understand how you feel. I bought a brand new TV for my living room in November 2008. Then, just 18 months later, this 3D thing comes along, and if I'm going to partake in it I have to buy a whole new TV after just buying one. For the normal person, it would seem ludicrous to buy a new TV so soon, just for the 3D function, but I've always been this kind of early adopter. I just can't help myself when it comes to stuff like this. I paid $950 for the TV I bought in late 2008, and I ended up selling it a week or so ago on Craigslist for $650. I took a $300 loss on that puppy, after only 18 months. It sucked to take a loss like that, but I feel like if I'm not trying out this new 3D stuff, then I'm really missing out on something.
My original theory, was that I would buy the TV, and basically test drive the thing for almost 30 days. If it blew me away, I'd keep it, if it was only mildly impressive I'd return it and get all my money back. At this point, I can already tell that I'm keeping it. I wish I wasn't such an early adopter type, but unfortunately I am. It can be very expensive when you feel the need to have the latest and greatest, despite all logic that points to waiting for prices to come down and performance to improve.
I'll probably regret this purchase a year from now, when the same TV I just bought could be had for about half the price I paid, but I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles. I always tell myself that I could die in a car accident on any given day, and that I shouldn't worry about my early adopter habits, because I should enjoy life while I'm here to enjoy it, and never take for granted the fact that I might not be alive the next day. My wife thinks this line of thinking is just a very convenient excuse for me to spend tons of cashola! :)
UniHamachi
06-20-2010, 01:53 PM
Is there some sort of FAQ out there that will tell you what requirements your HDTV needs to meet to be able to do 3D gaming?
My HDTV is only a 720p TV, so I think that's out of the question, and there's no way I'm shelling out more money after having just bought a nice TV to buy another one for 3D stuff.
http://news.cnet.com/3d-tv-faq/
Basically, if your TV didn't come with 3D glasses, it's a no go. Even current non-3D 120Hz sets can't do 3D.
3DS actually felt less portable, at least for the 3D aspect. I spent a lot of time adjusting the 3D slider and moving the unit closer and farther from my face to actually have the 3D "work"
Games with scores or information or anything happening that wasn't dead center on the screen took time to refocus my eyes to actually read. ie Starfox. Looking up and down between the top and bottom screens also needed a refocus.
Think when you watch 3D movies in the theater. To really experience the 3D you need to let your eyes kinda relax. Now picture watching a subtitled movie in 3D. Imagine the headache.
That's something that'll take a bit to get used to. At first it took me ages to see the Magic Eye images, after a while I could do it in a second. Same with pinhole glasses, it used to take me 15 or so minutes to be able to see clearly through them, and after a while it's just a few seconds.
kupomogli
06-20-2010, 07:39 PM
http://ueno.cool.ne.jp/chiro_san/mallrats02.jpg
This would be me. I can't ever see crap in those magic eye pictures.
RP2A03
06-20-2010, 11:18 PM
I think all 3D games should be like this. http://3dimka.deviantart.com/art/3D-Stereogram-Tetris-36795242
kupomogli
06-23-2010, 06:01 PM
WCP. I got a question about 3d.
What about color degradation? When I think of 3d, I just can't think of it in as high quality color as what we see on tv. Because it comes out at you, does it lose color?
I don't think it actually comes out at you. If you look at that Wiihack head tracking demo that was out on youtube a few years ago you can see that 3D was done with a regular screen.
jb143
06-24-2010, 01:07 PM
WCP. I got a question about 3d.
What about color degradation? When I think of 3d, I just can't think of it in as high quality color as what we see on tv. Because it comes out at you, does it lose color?
I don't see why it would have any less color depth than the original 2D images. Technically, the image doesn't come out at you. It's still on the screen. The only difference is that there's 2 images, one for each eye to see to create a stereoscopic view. The 3D effect is just an illusion.
I don't think it actually comes out at you. If you look at that Wiihack head tracking demo that was out on youtube a few years ago you can see that 3D was done with a regular screen.
That has nothing to do with the 3D in movies, the new TV's or the DSi though. That was just head tracking. With 1 eye(the camera filming it) it looked 3D but with 2 there would be real sense of depth.
Cornelius
06-24-2010, 01:23 PM
WCP. I got a question about 3d.
What about color degradation? When I think of 3d, I just can't think of it in as high quality color as what we see on tv. Because it comes out at you, does it lose color?
You are probably thinking of the 3d with the red/blue glasses. Because it is using offset colors to achieve the effect, the color is degraded. The new 3d stuff is using a different tech. Actually, I think it is quite similar to what the Sega Master System used for 3d. The glasses actually shutter alternately to get the effect. That's very simplified, but is how I understand it. This method doesn't seem to degrade color much, if at all.
Thanks for this thread. It is interesting to read. I've demoed the 3d at BB, and was surprised at the quality, though there were definitely issues. Edge effects mostly. Even perfected, though, I'm not sure it is an experience I need when I watch a movie. Lots of possibilities for games.
jb143
06-24-2010, 02:11 PM
Heh, good call on the anaglyph glasses Cornelius. I didn't even consider that that could be what he was asking about. But thinking along those lines, with shutter glasses, it is like watching a movie with sunglasses on so in that reguard, I guess you could say you will see less color depth. It's not because of the screen or the image though, it's only because of the glasses.
Movies use a slightly different approach in that the 2 projections are polarized differently and the glasses have polarizing filters in them. This "new" 3D technology they are using now is actually not new at all and has been around since the early days of 3D movies.
j_factor
06-24-2010, 03:08 PM
I don't understand why 3D has glasses again. Weren't we talking about 3D monitors that don't use glasses a few years ago?
jb143
06-24-2010, 03:57 PM
I don't understand why 3D has glasses again. Weren't we talking about 3D monitors that don't use glasses a few years ago?
They have them but they are much more expensive and have "sweet-spot" issues. It's basically the same as the 3DS and is just now starting to show signs of becoming mainstream. The only other real option is holographic displays and that's a loooong way off...if even possible.
GameDeals.ca
06-24-2010, 09:01 PM
I got the chance to play Wipeout HD in 3D at E3 (that's a mouthful). Anyway, I was excited about it as I'm a big Wipeout player (Gold in all events) and I bought my 52" LCD primarily because of Wipeout HD. My experience with it in 3D was kind of underwhelming. The effect was cool, but the loss of resolution & framerate made it a bit choppy. The 3D looked like the 3D movies that were done in post (Alice in Wonderland is a good example), in that it looked "added after the fact". If it were developed with 3D in mind, it would probably have blown my mind, but it wasn't. In all fairness, it was a well lit, noisy, crowded environment, not ideal for playing, and the experience in my dark living room would be different, but I'm not sold enough to get a 3D TV just yet... and if any game was going to sell me it was that one.
Regarding the color thing, there isn't any issues with that. There is an issue however with the brightness. When you put on the glasses, the brightness goes down quite a bit. You get used to it pretty quickly, and it isn't a very big deal overall, but it's still an issue nevertheless.
Regarding Wipeout HD, I'm surprised that you weren't impressed by it. It did drop down in resolution, but I still think it looks absolutely drop dead gorgeous in 3D, and I honestly think it looks even better in 3D, even with the drop in resolution. Sure, you take a hit on the resolution, but you actually step "inside" the world of Wipeout. I'm willing to make that tradeoff.
If you were a huge Super Stardust HD nut, instead of a huge Wipeout HD nut, you'd be more sold, because Super Stardust HD, which also suffers a hit in the resolution department, appears to suffer no hit whatsoever. It doesn't make sense, because you know that the resolution has dropped, yet when you play the game in 3D, it seems as though the resolution is exactly the same, and it seems like you can see everything even better than you could before.
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift takes the biggest resolution hit, because the original was 720p, and now the 3D is taking it below 720p. I'm not sure what resolution it's running at, but it still looks damn good to me. Others have seen it, and felt that the resolution dip was too big to overcome, but I don't have any problems with it. In fact, I think Pacific Rift is the most impressive 3D PS3 game so far. The primary reason that it continues to blow me away, is because of the effect where it seems like you can see 1 mile, or even more "INTO" the screen. I shit you not. You seriously can see way, way, way in front of you. It's really something you have to see in person, to understand what I'm talking about.
Here is an update on my 3D situation:
I ended up returning the 3D tv. Why? Well, there were alot of reasons, but I'd say the biggest factor was that I was starting to notice that I was really having some eye fatigue after about 25 minutes of use. Sometimes after 20 minutes of use. It was pretty mild eye fatigue, but it was there nonetheless, and it was a definite irritant to me that kinda ruined the experience.
It really sucks, because the 3D stuff is actually pretty kick ass.... no joke. I was thoroughly impressed with alot of the stuff that I saw in 3D. Besides the eye fatigue thing, the next big factor was price. I forked over an embarrassing amount of cash for that whole package, and the end result just wasn't worth the expense. I was able to get a full refund, and now instead I got a nice LG 1080p plasma that I got for super cheap at Amazon.com.
Will I miss the 3D revolution that was starting to happen? Yeah, a bit. I was watching a bit of the World Cup soccer in 3D, and while it was extremely entertaining, the eye fatigue was present, and I'd take the glasses off at half-time and during commercials. The 3D was absolutely sick though... from certain camera angles. They would go to this behind the goalie viewpoint, and it was like you were actually standing right there on the field about 10 yards behind the goalie... it was that real. The games in 3D, I've already talked about quite a bit, and they really did impress the hell out of me. I wish I could play them for more than about 25 minutes at a time. I never did actually try any 3D Blu Ray movies, but I was able to see some trailers of 3D Blu Ray movies. They were extremely impressive.
I'm definitely going to get another 3D display at some point, but I think I'm going to try to find a passive solution, rather than the active shutterglasses. I'd love to try dual projectors for a passive setup. Maybe when I win the lottery!