Factory Sealed Resident Evil 2 - Original Print - Is it Real?

[wingzrow]

Stumbled upon this earlier today and wanted to ask you guys what it was worth before listing it. Also wanted some opinions on it's authenticity. I know the seal is real but my memory is fuzzy & I don't remember if PS1 games were ever shrink wrapped like this. As far as the price goes I can't find any price that isn't absolute crazy. The only ones on ebay are in the $400.00 range becaue they're being sold by the crazies that rate & encase their games behind thick plastic cases. Amazon's no help either since they're asking $200.00 for a sealed copy but don't have pictures, or a description for that matter telling what version of the game it is. ( greatest hits, dual shock, etc )

So that's my situation guys. Is it real, and what should I REALISTICALLY be asking for it.

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[RPG_Fanatic]

I would say no. It should have the Y folded corners.

[wingzrow]

Could you post an example? I know all sorts of places like toys R us shrink wrapped games in different ways. I can post more pictures if you need a specific angle.

[allyourblood]

Could you post an example? I know all sorts of places like toys R us shrink wrapped games in different ways. I can post more pictures if you need a specific angle.

I worked at TRU while RE2 was current and we used to shrink-wrap games with the typical heat & shrink type plastic (no Y-folds or fancy seams, ever), similar to how yours is.

I don't recall seeing RE2 without a Y-fold, but that might just be my fuzzy memory. Also, both of the two sealed (and graded) copies on Ebay appear to be Y-fold.

[wingzrow]

Yeah..I did notice that. So am I to assume that the plastic covering the case isn't real but the playstation sticker on the top is? If that's the case then what should I do? How do I sell this on ebay without someone complaining & what should I be asking? I don't even know if I can even call it a technically "NEW" copy anymore if you guys don't think it's real.

More opinions would really help.

[garagesaleking!!]

I have to agree with the other posters. Not only the shape, but the material. That does not appear to be the real smooth heavy duty plastic wrap, but more of a very thin wrinkly wrap, which would not be original. The sticker could of maybe just never been broken.

[wingzrow]

Yeah, that's the conclusion i've come to. So is it fair to sell this as new then? I mean, if the seal's never been broken it's still new, just not factory sealed right?

[mobiusclimber]

Problem is there's no way to know if that security strip has been pulled up or not. It's possible if you're lucky and careful enough to lift up a security strip without tearing it.

[allyourblood]

Problem is there's no way to know if that security strip has been pulled up or not. It's possible if you're lucky and careful enough to lift up a security strip without tearing it.

It's actually quite easy to open a CD case without peeling the sticker at all. I used to do that with all of my music and game discs years ago. I don't know why; I just kept my stuff perfect and I liked having the sticker on there. I would unhinge the bottom of the case and flip the front up, leaving the sticker completely intact.

[mobiusclimber]

Ah I never thought of doing it that way. I've always tried to peel them off, and some times I've been successful at getting up one side (and could take it off complete if I wanted, but of course the point was to leave it on so no point).

[jonebone]

Depends on who you ask....

There's two types of PS1 sealed collectors. Those who believe that games sealed with Y-folds only came that way, and those who believe that Y-fold sealed games come in non-Y-fold variants.

I'm one of the latter. I bet this seal is 100% authentic. However, many sealed collectors will opt for the Y-fold version since they "know" it is real.

I say this because I have a ton of factory sealed Worms Armageddons for PS1. I had about 40 at one point, probably 20 now. All of the seals look identical to this one.

Only difference is that Worms Armageddon was ONLY sealed this way, there exists no Y-fold variant on this title. Go ahead, check all of the ones on eBay and search for it daily. I have for well over 7 months now and still have never seen a Y-fold, but have seen dozens of the non-Y folds in addition to the ones that I've been selling.

FF7 is another title that has Y-fold and non Y-fold variants.

And one other thing, how many of the people in this thread saying "No" own any sealed PS1 games? If you don't, then honestly your opinion doesn't mean much, no offense.

[PapaStu]

Capcom for years has not just ridden the Y-Fold shrink train. Buster Bros. Collection came in the shrink wrap. I'm sure numerous others did as well. I never thought to denote the shrink on the games on my lists when I opened them for the first time.

Hell they don't even Y fold seal most (if any) of their DS games. All three Phoenix Wright games, Miles Edgeworth and all of the Mega Man DS games come in the heat shrink wrap.

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I'd send that seller a message and ask the seal.

[RASK1904]

Depends on who you ask....

There's two types of PS1 sealed collectors. Those who believe that games sealed with Y-folds only came that way, and those who believe that Y-fold sealed games come in non-Y-fold variants.

I'm one of the latter. I bet this seal is 100% authentic. However, many sealed collectors will opt for the Y-fold version since they "know" it is real.

I say this because I have a ton of factory sealed Worms Armageddons for PS1. I had about 40 at one point, probably 20 now. All of the seals look identical to this one.

Only difference is that Worms Armageddon was ONLY sealed this way, there exists no Y-fold variant on this title. Go ahead, check all of the ones on eBay and search for it daily. I have for well over 7 months now and still have never seen a Y-fold, but have seen dozens of the non-Y folds in addition to the ones that I've been selling.

FF7 is another title that has Y-fold and non Y-fold variants.

And one other thing, how many of the people in this thread saying "No" own any sealed PS1 games? If you don't, then honestly your opinion doesn't mean much, no offense.

I think this is your answer. I think it is sealed and mint, but your gonna catch alot of flack from alot of people saying it's not. It's scetchy and I would not purchase it. But the right person who know whats up will. Good luck.

[Smashed Brother]

I recently had a new copy of the PS1 Mr. Driller that was sealed in pretty much the same way. In fact, the store that I got it from had multiple copies that were all sealed exactly the same way. Like other people have said, it must just be a variant in the way some PS1 games were sealed.

[PapaStu]

I worked at TRU while RE2 was current and we used to shrink-wrap games with the typical heat & shrink type plastic (no Y-folds or fancy seams, ever), similar to how yours is.

I don't recall seeing RE2 without a Y-fold, but that might just be my fuzzy memory. Also, both of the two sealed (and graded) copies on Ebay appear to be Y-fold.


Another note for those playing along at home. RE2 had numerous variants. The auction that I linked above was the 'Dual Shock' version, this one listed it the 'Win a part in the movies' variant. They were made at different times, and probably handled by different factories which would mean different sealing styles. With the hang tab and its look, i'm going to say this is a legit seal.

[allyourblood]

I hope my post wasn't interpreted as me saying that it isn't legit. I'm just saying I'm not sure.

For the record, I can state with 100% certainty that several games released on the PSX (and Dreamcast, for that matter) shipped from the factory packaged in heat shrink, just like the OP's example above. Further, I know for a fact that several games shipped in both heat shrink and Y-fold variations (for the same title).

However, none of that means the OP's copy is 100% original, even if heat shrink was a proper original seal method for that particular release. In any event, it looks pretty good.

[rpepper9]

As far as the part of your question where you asked how it should be listed, here is what I would do.

I would have the title say that it is "new" and "sealed" and then have the listing very clearly state that there are different variations on the way games were sealed, and that if the bidder does not feel confident that this is not a real seal, then they should not bid.

Show all the photos you have in this thread, let people know that to the best of your knowledge you think it is real. You may want to point them to this thread in your listing, let them know you are not trying to rip anyone off.

Also, expect a lot of BS and accusing questions, answer the ones that are asked politely, and ignore the questions from total ass-hats. Also it would help to post the questions and responses you choose to respond to on the listing to hopefully avoid repeat questions.

[jonebone]

I love how the unanimous answer in this thread was "Fake" until I posted, now everyone is on the "Legit" bandwagon, lol.

While someone said "None of this means that it is 100% original", I can counter "There is no evidence you can provide this is 100% fake" either.

Like I said, I've had 40 Worms Armageddon games that look exactly identical to this seal, and all have the hangtabs attached on the back just like yours. All have the same bit of bubbling from the top corners where the seam starts. All even have a weird overlap somewhere on the bottom just as yours does.

Absolutely zero doubt in my mind that it is legit.

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[rarebucky]

I am one of those "crazies" and it looks legit to me. Does it have factory ventholes? If so, legit. If not, fake. That's pretty much it.

[wingzrow]

By ventholes do you mean these? There's another 5 in the EXACT same patern and spacing on the left side of the back case too. Please excuse the crudity of the picture. It's very hard to take pictures of things like this. On the counter point, and i hate to refute the validity of my own game, but don't all machines make vent holes like this? If it's only sony's packing machines then you might be onto something.

EDIT: Found another 5 holes in the same pastern on the upper left of the front as well.

All holes circled in red.

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[allyourblood]

While someone said "None of this means that it is 100% original", I can counter "There is no evidence you can provide this is 100% fake" either.

That was me. And I don't care what you can counter. I wasn't stating that in response to your post, and while I hope for the OP's sake that the game is legit, I really don't care if it's an original seal or not. I have no intention of trying to provide evidence that his game has been resealed (why would I, or anyone for that matter?). I'm not posting to see myself type; I was trying to help the OP.

"lol"



wingzrow, have you tried contacting any of the sellers on Amazon, or that one seller on Ebay whose seal isn't quite clear in the photos?

[wingzrow]

I haven't. I"m selling it currently as a "new" copy of the game that is sealed. Not seling it as factory sealed at all at this point. I put a disclaimer in the listing, hopefully nobody complains. I doubt it' fake though. Why would a resealed PS1 game even arrive at a half priced books anyway? It's not like i'm buying it from another seller and then reselling it. I doubt this went through anyone's hands besides the original owner.

Here's the listing. Does my disclaimer look ok?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380248924220&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

PS: I know it's a crazy starting price but I always tend to do this if there's nobody to compare it to. Expect it to drop in price each week until somebody shows some interest.

[allyourblood]

Looks very good to me. If I were to purchase it, I'd know exactly what I was buying from your photos and description.

Your BIN price might actually be a little on the low side, though. If you're not in any sort of hurry to sell it, you might just shoot for the stars ($300+) for a month or two and lower it later if it doesn't move. In fact, I'd start it at $350 and include the option for buyers to make an offer. Also, remember that it's very likely to sell for more the closer we get to the holidays, so leaving it high for now might scare off the average summer shopper, but will show up on more buyers' radars the longer it sits. On the other hand, if you're looking to move it quickly, I think your price is perfectly reasonable.

[wingzrow]

I took your advice. It's at $349.95 with a best offer option now. I feel like I'm an Alaskan crab fisherman. Sometimes the pot needs to soak longer to get the right amount of crab. ( I need to stop watching so much deadliest catch )

[jonebone]

$350? Jeez, I would have said it was a fake if I knew you'd price gouge like that.

[portnoyd]

You come from the land of slabbed and tabbed NES titles. This should be of no surprise to you.

[suckerpunch5]

I just checked, and my new sealed copy of Syphonfilter 3 has exactly the same seal. And I know it is legit, because I personally bought it new from Toys R Us. So yeah, I'd say it is a new factory sealed copy.

[wingzrow]

It's funny how I mentioned toys R us might have sold these sealed like this as an ofhand remark, and then I have a community where one person confirms they bought a game exactly like it at toys R us, and another person mentions the same thing could be true who WORKED for toys R us at the time the game was in circulation. That's why I come here. You guys are great.

Also, for those of you thinking i'm asking for too much. Well, you might be right, but It's very likely that i'm never going to find another sealed copy like this. I lower my prices on ebay every single week though so eventually someone's going to buy it. It won't be at $350.00 forever, that's for sure.

[darkslime]

$350? Jeez, I would have said it was a fake if I knew you'd price gouge like that.Its best offer. And why the fuck do you care, don't buy it.

And yeah there's no doubt that's legit. That looks like the shrink wrap capcom uses on their games, plus there's a security strip.

[jonebone]

Its best offer. And why the fuck do you care, don't buy it.

And yeah there's no doubt that's legit. That looks like the shrink wrap capcom uses on their games, plus there's a security strip.

And why the fuck do you care about my response? Oh, you're a high BIN price gouger too, gotcha.

I measure "worth" of an item by what it would sell for in open auction, not by "the highest BIN price that will sell months from now".

Sellers can ask whatever they want, but I thought I clearly explained that many PS1 sealed collectors will have no interest in this and think it's a fake. Then a smaller amount actually believe there are variant seals. So you've effectively eliminated more than half of an already small audience.

GL with the sale.

[Dark_Sol]

Nice condition.
And yes it's for sure legit as many games came sealed both types.
I'd ask 200$ for it and it will sell faster. Fishing is kinda useless since a lot of much rarer yfold versions sell hardly above 200$

[RPG_Fanatic]

Still think it's fake, even the dual shock version (which came out after the original one in this thread) has the "Y" fold. Check the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NrYn1lmTIQ

[rarebucky]

OP - it does indeed look legit. But I agree with some of the previous postings - the price is a little high considering it is not the more desirable y-fold seal. But that's why Best Offer is your friend!

[darkslime]

And why the fuck do you care about my response? Oh, you're a high BIN price gouger too, gotcha.
Yes I am. I have patience, and don't mind waiting a few months for a sale.

[BIGMIKE]

this is the thing that rubs me the wrong way. why does it seem that if a person stumbles on a game more than likely on the cheap, that they in turn want to profit at the top end of the scale automatically. take this case, u found a sealed game. great. wish i would have too, but im not gonna squabble if in turn i am just gonna sell it. sell the thing for 100 bucks and move on and be happy with a some profit.

[wingzrow]

Does anyone even take a look at my listings on ebay? I've been dropping it $5-10 every week it hasn't sold. It's not like i'm leaving it at $350.00 forever. It's at $335 right now and next week itle be even lower. Plus the best offer option is ALWAYS there. If someone offered $200.00 i would gladly accept it for that or even lower.

[darkslime]

Does anyone even take a look at my listings on ebay? I've been dropping it $5-10 every week it hasn't sold. It's not like i'm leaving it at $350.00 forever. It's at $335 right now and next week itle be even lower. Plus the best offer option is ALWAYS there. If someone offered $200.00 i would gladly accept it for that or even lower.That seems like a really bad way to sell things. If people notice the pattern they'll just wait a few weeks til it goes lower. I never lower the prices of my items because of that.

[Bojay1997]

That seems like a really bad way to sell things. If people notice the pattern they'll just wait a few weeks til it goes lower. I never lower the prices of my items because of that.

I disagree. The kind of moron who would pay an inflated BIN is not exactly going to wait it out to get the best price. If they had that kind of patience, they would know it's easier just to wait until another copy of the same thing comes up for a real auction which with the exception of a tiny percentage of items, always happens. At least if you lower it, you show that you are open to bargaining and maybe will get someone to make an offer or at least consider your item down the road or maybe even still luck into someone with too much money and no common sense paying your ridiculous BIN.

[eskobar]

this is the thing that rubs me the wrong way. why does it seem that if a person stumbles on a game more than likely on the cheap, that they in turn want to profit at the top end of the scale automatically. take this case, u found a sealed game. great. wish i would have too, but im not gonna squabble if in turn i am just gonna sell it. sell the thing for 100 bucks and move on and be happy with a some profit.

Totally agree with you.

Its great when you find uncommon games for cheap but you can't just try to make the profit of the month in just one sale.

I am more comfortable selling the game for 100 o 150 and be happy with the profit and move on with my sales. I do believe that there is a perfect buyer for situations like this, but they are very hard to find this days. :|

[Cornelius]

That seems like a really bad way to sell things. If people notice the pattern they'll just wait a few weeks til it goes lower. I never lower the prices of my items because of that.

Isn't this called a Dutch auction? Maybe I have the name wrong, but I saw a program talking about how flowers are sold this way at auction. The price starts high and drops until someone buys. Sure you can wait, but then you might not get the item. Certainly a different way to think about it, but it apparently works. I'll add a caveat that getting the best price likely does depend on the type of item/demand.


this is the thing that rubs me the wrong way. why does it seem that if a person stumbles on a game more than likely on the cheap, that they in turn want to profit at the top end of the scale automatically. take this case, u found a sealed game. great. wish i would have too, but im not gonna squabble if in turn i am just gonna sell it. sell the thing for 100 bucks and move on and be happy with a some profit.

Never understood this. So you sell kindly sell the thing for 100 so the buyer can go and sell it for 300 instead of you? I can understand pricing low for a quick sale if that is your preference, but taking more than 20-30% off the going rate is just as likely to put the item in another reseller's hands as into the hands of an end user.

[jonebone]

Never understood this. So you sell kindly sell the thing for 100 so the buyer can go and sell it for 300 instead of you? I can understand pricing low for a quick sale if that is your preference, but taking more than 20-30% off the going rate is just as likely to put the item in another reseller's hands as into the hands of an end user.

His point is to let it go for the items true market value rather then some high BINer's overpriced attempt at "worth".

You don't have to rip yourself off and sell it lower than market value just because you got a deal, but you don't have to rip off the buyer either.

Case in point, I got a Sculptor's Cut CIB for $25 off eBay last month, first time I'd seen a copy on eBay by itself (and with manual). Just freak luck I grabbed it.

It just so happens Sosafan has one on eBay right now at $350, been up for about a month. I put it For Offer on the forums and fielded offers for a few days. Had some pretty good interest and let it go for over $200. The profit margin was plenty for me.

Or I could have put it in a store for 6 months and tried to gouge the market. I don't have to squeeze pennies like that to be successful, give me profit today so I can buy an auction tomorrow and do it again.

[MachineGex]

I think it is up to you to price stuff as you see fit, but I see things like this:
I agree with making dollars instead of squeezing pennies on an item you got dirt cheap. Sell it fast at 80-90% market value instead of wasting time and squeezing every little penny out of every item you sell. To me personally, I think it is good business. I hate going into a store that has semi-rare games marked WAAAAAY up! I generally don't like to buy stuff from those kinda stores unless I think it is dirt cheap. Don't know why, just seems like bad business to me. Why not make everyone happy and sell it fast and let the customer feel like he got a nice deal? Dont have to give it away, but dont squeeze your customers so much they dont like coming back to you.

Even on DP's selling forum, I know which member prices his stuff to sell and who prices his stuff to squeeze pennies. I tend to skip the pennies squeezers and look forward to the members who price their stuff to sell. I should start a list of members who sell their items at really fair/good prices. JeffG, comes to mind recently.

[wingzrow]

Isn't this called a Dutch auction? Maybe I have the name wrong, but I saw a program talking about how flowers are sold this way at auction. The price starts high and drops until someone buys. Sure you can wait, but then you might not get the item. Certainly a different way to think about it, but it apparently works. I'll add a caveat that getting the best price likely does depend on the type of item/demand.

Exactly. This is how I sell ALL of my items. If something hasn't sold, each Monday I lower it a bit. Sometimes a dollar, sometimes $5.00, sometimes 50 cents. It all depends on how much I'm asking. With something like this that I started really high I can afford to lower it 5-10 each week. I do this with all my items. Eventually demand & price meet each other and the item sells for exactly what it's worth. In adition, it takes the effort out of having to compare your prices to every other seller on ebay. Once something gets cheap enough it sells. I'm only paying 5 cents a month to relist items automatically & considering i only have around 100 items for sale at any given time I have to get the most out of every sale, especially with the amount paypal and ebay take from my earnings. You guys can call me a penny pincher or something if you like but these items are always being priced to move, just slower than the person who wants something to sell immediately.

Oh, and on the flowers. I believe that's done because they die if they aren't sold so they're forced to lower them. The same goes for the japanese fish market. You would not believe the deals on fresh fruit & vegetables I get at flea markets sunday evenings before they close for the weekend.

[Kevincal]

To price the stuff I sell on ebay i check completed listings and sort by looking at what sold for the highest. Once I see atleast a couple or few games that are just like the game or whatever im trying to sell, once I see they actually have sold at a certain price, thats where I start my buy it now price, BUT i also just started giving the option of letting them bid at $2-5 below the BIN. If something doesnt sell after a week, I relist it at slightly reduced price. rinse repeat, i sell enough stuff at good prices to be happy this way. To be honest I dont want to move too much product at one time anyway because I hate having to constantly package and ship TONS of stuff, like at certain points I was selling too much stuff, having to make 10-20 packages a day etc. Theres nothing wrong with pricing stuff at the upper end of what its worth. We live in America, a FREE COUNTRY. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything. So all you haters, stop giving shit to us sellers for trying to maximize our profits in this tough economy. ;) Its funny how certain people brag about moving product fast by selling cheap, but they fail to mention the hundreds of dollars (not pennies...) they are throwing away because they dont have the patience to sell stuff at the higher end of what its worth. It really adds up over time. it will be thousands of dollars thrown away eventually if you sell a lot (like me ;))... Id rather be patient and sell stuff at the high end personally. It also helps that I usually sell high end product, for instance right now i have tons of mint complete N64 games and boxed Turbo Grafx stuff. ;) I am quite proud of the high quality inventory I have for sale. :D

[jonebone]

We live in America, a FREE COUNTRY. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything. So all you haters, stop giving shit to us sellers for trying to maximize our profits in this tough economy. ;) Its funny how certain people brag about moving product fast by selling cheap, but they fail to mention the hundreds of dollars (not pennies...) they are throwing away because they dont have the patience to sell stuff at the higher end of what its worth. It really adds up over time. it will be thousands of dollars thrown away eventually if you sell a lot (like me ;))... Id rather be patient and sell stuff at the high end personally.

Apparently you have no understanding of how real businesses operate. Business operate on cash flow, not on individual item profits. That's why Wal-mart can sell cases of water for $3 while Kmart has them priced at $5. I guess Wal-mart is just throwing away millions of dollars right? LOL, try telling that to Kmart who's barely clinging to life.

I could care less what my profit is on any one item because I know the next haul or find is only a day or two away. When I feel like reselling I just shoot for around $200 profit a week which is more than enough to fund my collecting goals.

If you guys have good finds once a month, then yeah you probably have to squeeze every penny out of your sales. The rest of us don't, which is why we get plenty of repeat buyers and Top-Seller ratings with our 20% discounts.

[Kyle15]

So all you haters, stop giving shit to us sellers for trying to maximize our profits in this tough economy. ;) Its funny how certain people brag about moving product fast by selling cheap, but they fail to mention the hundreds of dollars (not pennies...) they are throwing away because they dont have the patience to sell stuff at the higher end of what its worth.

The economy has nothing to do with it. People have been trying to pass inflated BINs for years on eBay.
Nothing new.

[Bojay1997]

To price the stuff I sell on ebay i check completed listings and sort by looking at what sold for the highest. Once I see atleast a couple or few games that are just like the game or whatever im trying to sell, once I see they actually have sold at a certain price, thats where I start my buy it now price, BUT i also just started giving the option of letting them bid at $2-5 below the BIN. If something doesnt sell after a week, I relist it at slightly reduced price. rinse repeat, i sell enough stuff at good prices to be happy this way. To be honest I dont want to move too much product at one time anyway because I hate having to constantly package and ship TONS of stuff, like at certain points I was selling too much stuff, having to make 10-20 packages a day etc. Theres nothing wrong with pricing stuff at the upper end of what its worth. We live in America, a FREE COUNTRY. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything. So all you haters, stop giving shit to us sellers for trying to maximize our profits in this tough economy. ;) Its funny how certain people brag about moving product fast by selling cheap, but they fail to mention the hundreds of dollars (not pennies...) they are throwing away because they dont have the patience to sell stuff at the higher end of what its worth. It really adds up over time. it will be thousands of dollars thrown away eventually if you sell a lot (like me ;))... Id rather be patient and sell stuff at the high end personally. It also helps that I usually sell high end product, for instance right now i have tons of mint complete N64 games and boxed Turbo Grafx stuff. ;) I am quite proud of the high quality inventory I have for sale. :D

As long as you are playing by the same rules that every other business does (paying your business taxes, collecting sales tax if your state requires it, having a valid resellers permit, etc...), I have no problem with you or anyone else charging whatever you want on Ebay or anywhere else. Having said that, as a collector and a member of this community, I do have a problem with a handful of the resellers using this site as a source for rarity information or to obtain cheap stock so they can make huge profits. That's just not what this community is for and it goes against the spirit of helping each other build collections and enjoy classic and modern games.

[allyourblood]

I think it's pretty small of some of you to pick on the OP. He's set a price, and he's letting it fall, week to week, until it sells. Whether it sells for $290 or only $100, it will sell for precisely what it was worth to the buyer. You folks might have a case against him if he left the price static and it didn't sell for 6 months, but he's making an effort to reduce the price until someone in the market says, "Yeah, okay, I'll take it".

Further, he's selling a rare and unique item that isn't likely to be played; or do some of you know where to get a stack of these for $50 a pop? If he had an open copy and was dragging people over the coals on the price, then maybe that deserves a little scorn. But he's offering a collector's item to a potential collector and I think he should make every effort to maximize his profit. Someone's gonna pay a premium for this thing to languish on a shelf for eternity, after all. Who cares what they pay? You can go buy yourselves an open copy and play to your heart's content for $11.99.

Spit out the sour grapes and find a different thread. :roll:

[Bojay1997]

I think it's pretty small of some of you to pick on the OP. He's set a price, and he's letting it fall, week to week, until it sells. Whether it sells for $290 or only $100, it will sell for precisely what it was worth to the buyer. You folks might have a case against him if he left the price static and it didn't sell for 6 months, but he's making an effort to reduce the price until someone in the market says, "Yeah, okay, I'll take it".

Further, he's selling a rare and unique item that isn't likely to be played; or do some of you know where to get a stack of these for $50 a pop? If he had an open copy and was dragging people over the coals on the price, then maybe that deserves a little scorn. But he's offering a collector's item to a potential collector and I think he should make every effort to maximize his profit. Someone's gonna pay a premium for this thing to languish on a shelf for eternity, after all. Who cares what they pay? You can go buy yourselves an open copy and play to your heart's content for $11.99.

Spit out the sour grapes and find a different thread. :roll:

Here's my problem with that argument. This is the "what's it worth" thread. The OP came here asking for confirmation of what he had and what the value was. After everyone reasonably contributed to the discussion, he disregarded everyone's advice and posted the game for an outrageous price. I have no problem with him doing so on his own. I do have a problem with him wasting everyone's time since he could have just went straight to Ebay.

[allyourblood]

I understand that, but it's already been said by a handful of members that his price is outrageous and an affront to gamers everywhere. I just don't see how it needs to be brought up repeatedly. He's gonna do what he wants to do, whether anyone here likes it or not. He's not hurting, insulting, or attacking any DP members (or anyone else for that matter), so why not just let it go? Life's way too short to get so upset about something so completely trivial.

[wingzrow]

Well i mainly needed to know if it was real or not, that's kind of why I posted so many pictures. Maybe I should have taken this to the technical & restoration forum.


I have no problem with him doing so on his own. I do have a problem with him wasting everyone's time since he could have just went straight to Ebay.


Wasting time? On the internet? On a message board about VIDEOGAMES? GOD FORBID.

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1439/1051u6c.jpg

[eskobar]

Well i mainly needed to know if it was real or not, that's kind of why I posted so many pictures. Maybe I should have taken this to the technical & restoration forum.

Don't worry, its a public forum and you didn't break any rule, mate.

I may dislike the price but i am not mad because of it ;)

Good Luck with the sale !!!

[Bojay1997]

I understand that, but it's already been said by a handful of members that his price is outrageous and an affront to gamers everywhere. I just don't see how it needs to be brought up repeatedly. He's gonna do what he wants to do, whether anyone here likes it or not. He's not hurting, insulting, or attacking any DP members (or anyone else for that matter), so why not just let it go? Life's way too short to get so upset about something so completely trivial.

Nobody is upset. It's a discussion forum. People discuss things no matter how pointless or meaningless. If you don't like the discussion part of it, feel free to ignore the thread. Let's be honest here, 99.99% of everything discussed on this board and most of the Internet has zero impact in the real world. This is just another one of those cases. You're right, there is nothing to get upset about. Next time this guy pops up asking for advice, most of us will be wiser and smarter and just ignore him.

[allyourblood]

Nobody is upset.

Um, if you think that, I'd say you missed several posts in this thread. Some people came across as pretty upset at his pricing.

[understatement]

He's not hurting, insulting, or attacking any DP members (or anyone else for that matter), so why not just let it go?


Kinda like UnpluggedClone? The fact is he was, insulting DP members (or I don't think you would have taken such drastic measures as to try and track down all his Ebay accounts) it might not be insulting anyone specific but it is insulting to people that know what it's worth.


With that being said I don't care one way or the other on either case (UnpluggedClone cutting down, or wingzrow doubling up the price) its more of a "I can see both sides of the coin thing" I can see why you and others defend and this is why "I think" others are/ seem upset.

Also I don't think this really has much to do with the OP since it has been stated that it will reduce in price until sold its more about price gougers in general now since the OPs question has been answered.

[Eduardo]

I know I'm a n00b here and speaking out of turn but I think I can shed some valuable perspective on this:

We have to accept the things we cannot change.

Like other people's actions. Whatever he sells it for is his prerogative. It's his property. Dealing in memorabilia I've found out that any one thing is worth what any one person would be willing to pay for it. If he can make a huge profit more power to him. I've bought things for one amount and turn them around in 3 days and sold them for triple that amount. Does this make me a gouger?, probably to a lot of people but this is business. This is money and it's his property. Kindness, goodwill and love should be part of our lives but not when we are talking about cash. Even if we do it as a hobbie and not a job it's still whatever he wants to do with it. I've sold stuff to Japan and Spain for twice the amount I can get it here, why? I don't know I never ask but I do pocket the money. I know we are only human and can't help but feel jealousy that we may not even be willing to admits to ourselves. But if such strong emotions exists it's because what is happening is eliciting a response. It's only the internet, I say live and let live.

[Gameguy]

this is the thing that rubs me the wrong way. why does it seem that if a person stumbles on a game more than likely on the cheap, that they in turn want to profit at the top end of the scale automatically. take this case, u found a sealed game. great. wish i would have too, but im not gonna squabble if in turn i am just gonna sell it. sell the thing for 100 bucks and move on and be happy with a some profit.
When I had extra stuff I used to price it cheaper while attending swap meets, it sold fast and was put out for sale again by other vendors. I don't like seeing my stuff immediately flipped so I don't price stuff that cheap anymore. Of course I would be willing to give better deals if I personally know the buyer or if the buyer wants to buy a lot at once(a mix of really good and average stuff), but that's about it. Sometimes I don't care if someone wants to flip stuff and I price it cheaper, some stuff I sold for what I felt they were worth and I now see them on ebay, 10 months later and they're still listed so I don't think I lost out.

I can also understand why people would want to sell stuff quickly, if you don't have a lot of space to store stuff you'd want to clear it out so you'll have space for new stuff. It's just a matter of personal preference.


I hate going into a store that has semi-rare games marked WAAAAAY up! I generally don't like to buy stuff from those kinda stores unless I think it is dirt cheap. Don't know why, just seems like bad business to me. Why not make everyone happy and sell it fast and let the customer feel like he got a nice deal? Dont have to give it away, but dont squeeze your customers so much they dont like coming back to you.
It's because those stores like to focus on having a big selection of good games, if they were priced cheaper they'd sell too fast. If all the games sell quickly, they'll just be stuck with the junk and people wouldn't come as often to browse. Those stores make most of their money on other stock so they don't mind sitting on the more desirable stuff. I talked with one store owner and he basically told me this, of course his store is out of business now but he really charged a lot on everything(not just rare stuff) and was kind of a jerk. Other stores I've been to that are like that are still in business, they price good games higher but that's it.

[allyourblood]

Kinda like UnpluggedClone? The fact is he was, insulting DP members (or I don't think you would have taken such drastic measures as to try and track down all his Ebay accounts) it might not be insulting anyone specific but it is insulting to people that know what it's worth.

This is nothing like UnpluggedClone, who was outright lying to members of this forum -- something that, if wingzrow were to do the same, I might consider a similar course of action. But he's not, he's just trying to see if his game has a genuine factory seal, and what people think it's worth.

As for what it's "actually" worth, that will be determined at the exact moment it sells, and no sooner.

[wingzrow]

What's funny is nobody really know the exact value right now. There's another guy who listed his on eBay soon after my copy at the exact same price as me. Something tells me there hasn't been a sealed copy of this game sold on eBay for a really long time.

[understatement]

This is nothing like UnpluggedClone, who was outright lying to members of this forum -- something that, if wingzrow were to do the same, I might consider a similar course of action. But he's not, he's just trying to see if his game has a genuine factory seal, and what people think it's worth.

As for what it's "actually" worth, that will be determined at the exact moment it sells, and no sooner.

Like I said all I was doing was showing what I thought was the reasoning behind others dislike of the outcome. If someone knows that a game like this only sells for $100~$200 they fell lied to when someone says they want $350~$400 for it.


What's funny is nobody really know the exact value right now. There's another guy who listed his on eBay soon after my copy at the exact same price as me. Something tells me there hasn't been a sealed copy of this game sold on eBay for a really long time.

One with Y-folds sold 7 days ago for $150. I think he could have got $200 but not much more.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Resident-Evil-2-NEW-Black-Label-Factory-Sealed-/170513393542?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item27b363e786

[jonebone]

Nobody does know the exact value, but if you listened to anything I said then you'd realize that many sealed collectors would view this as nothing more than a placeholder. It has the seamed seal and not the Y-fold which causes some people to think it is fake though I told you I'm very confident it is the real deal.

However, when half of your demand thinks it is fake, you really limit the worth of your item. I bet it might even break $150 at open auction but I doubt people would put much more into it than that, realizing they'd upgrade down the road and then sell this duplicate.

[megasdkirby]

Why not get it graded and sell it after you get it back from VGA?

Depending on the rating, some VGA nutfreak will definitely purchase it. LOL

[mobiusclimber]

Why not get it graded and sell it after you get it back from VGA?

Depending on the rating, some VGA nutfreak will definitely purchase it. LOL

Yeah piss people off even more. I just went looking thru Ebay yesterday and couldn't believe the number of idiots that thing a VGA grade (of 80 in some cases!) is worth thousands of dollars. VGA = the new "haunted."

[megasdkirby]

Yeah piss people off even more. I just went looking thru Ebay yesterday and couldn't believe the number of idiots that thing a VGA grade (of 80 in some cases!) is worth thousands of dollars. VGA = the new "haunted."

Tell me about it. I posted that as a joke, but in all reality, I really can't believe why people would even sell items at said prices, and even worse, buyers paying those exagerated prices for said items!

To each their own, that is true, but still.

But on the other hand, I recall The 1 2 P once stated that he had a game that never sold for around $200 (or something like that) and when he graded it, he managed to sell it for $700 or something like that. So it's still something to consider, specially with those VGA fanatics.

[jonebone]

Tell me about it. I posted that as a joke, but in all reality, I really can't believe why people would even sell items at said prices, and even worse, buyers paying those exagerated prices for said items!

To each their own, that is true, but still.

But on the other hand, I recall The 1 2 P once stated that he had a game that never sold for around $200 (or something like that) and when he graded it, he managed to sell it for $700 or something like that. So it's still something to consider, specially with those VGA fanatics.

That was a Ninja Gaiden 3, and when we called him out in the thread to provide a link he never responded. Many of us had our doubts about his claims and his silence validated those doubts.

[megasdkirby]

Ah, that was it!

Took me a some time to find, but it seems he did list a link, according to this quote:


How the hell did I miss this thread getting bumped:? Anyway, here you go fellas: link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310218725047)

I'm still shocked that the buyer paid so much. But not bad at all for The 1 2 P! :)

So yeah, as much as I despise the VGA concept, wingzrow should try "slabbing" his copy of RE2 to see what it's grade is. Even at an 80, it can fetch higher than what he is currently asking for.