Limbo

[Jisho23]

Anyone aside from me pick it up?

[RPG_Fanatic]

I played the demo but 1200 points!?! I'll wait for a price drop.

[Famidrive-16]

Bought it and beat it the other day. Worth every point to me but it isn't for everyone.

[megasdkirby]

Bought it and beat it the other day. Worth every point to me but it isn't for everyone.

This is why I have not gotten it. That, and because its 1,200 points, which if I am not mistaken, is $15....for DLC?

I'll wait until it drops to at least 800 points ($10).

I did play the demo, and after getting decapitated a few times due to the floor traps...and skewered by the huge spider, I really enjoyed the game! But still, the price is a tad steep, at least for me.

Release this on a disc, and I will get it for $15.

[Jisho23]

I think its so sad that a game like this, which has received all kinds of positive attention, is being crippled in sales because "15 dollars is too much."

[kupomogli]

I listened to the CAGcast and both CheapyD and Shipwreck said it took them three hours at most.

I recently bought MvC2 for $7.50 and I feel that I got ripped off. First off you don't own a copy of the game, second I thought the game was garbage and deleted it within an hour. The first MvC is better. First and only DLC I've purchased and pretty much feel like I threw money away.

[portnoyd]

The first MvC is better.

You're insane.

[garagesaleking!!]

I also just played the trial version today, seems good, but to me so much of a ripoff of littlebigplanet in a way. But for $15 instead of $60 not bad. I just as a rule dont buy arcade games generally, unless its something like trials hd with high replay value for me.

[maxlords]

I'd MUCH rather get it on a disc. I refuse to pay $15 for any DLC. Way too much.

[Plastik Gold]

I'd MUCH rather get it on a disc. I refuse to pay $15 for any DLC. Way too much.

really? you are missing out on some good stuff. if shadow complex was on a disc i think it would have done okay with a $60 price tag, but at $15 it was a steal even if it was only DLC.

but yeah, i'm about 45 minutes into limbo and it's pretty awesome. i heard you can finish it in under four hours which is a little short, though.

[Jisho23]

There is no denying the game is short, but then again I don't see how thats an outright bad thing. There's no rehash or repetition. Those 4 hours are 4 genuine hours.

And "to me so much of a ripoff of littlebigplanet in a way"? I hope that's a troll or just incredibly stupid. At least call it out on "Out of this World" and "Heart of Darkness."

[skaar]

This is again the $15 ZOMG that Braid got. I am holding off because of the price tag, but also because I have a huge backlog of games already in the queue. I'll pick it up later.

I paid full price for Braid.

I'm sure someone'll link the PA comic at some point in here.

Nevermind, I'll do it.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080808.jpg

Now - is Limbo worth it? I'd like to see that in here more than what's been posted so far.

[maxlords]

Actually...the $15 price point for DLC is the main reason I'm holding off, but I also REALLY don't like buying ANY DLC on the Xbox due to the whole points system.

If it was on PS3, I'd be about 75% more likely to buy it. Same goes for Shadow Complex for that matter...at least Braid came out on Steam and for PC.

[Jisho23]

This is again the $15 ZOMG that Braid got. I am holding off because of the price tag, but also because I have a huge backlog of games already in the queue. I'll pick it up later.

I paid full price for Braid.

I'm sure someone'll link the PA comic at some point in here.

Nevermind, I'll do it.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080808.jpg

Now - is Limbo worth it? I'd like to see that in here more than what's been posted so far.

I think LIMBO is definitely worth it, and its an excellent game. I lament that all anyone is talking about (reviews, other boards) is that the game might be too expensive, not commenting on the actual quality of the game.

Then again, many of you don't like DLC so nothing I say will matter.

[Robocop2]

I tried the trial and really liked it. Sure 15 bucks is 15 bucks but at least its a full featured game and not some lame add on pack to an existing game.

[Dobie]

I have a hard time with the "this isn't worth $60, this is only worth $10," etc. Value is difficult to quantify by play time, or any other method, because everybody's perception of worth is different. In my mind, a 3 hour game can be worth $60 if the experience is unique and high quality. A 100 hour grindfest won't get $5 out of me. I gladly plopped down $15 for Braid. I probably will wait on Limbo, despite liking it. Doesn't mean its not worth $15 to others. I'll pay $150 for Halo Reach. Others probably think its a waste of money, and wouldn't pick any Halo game up off of the ground even if it was free. Its all about perception of value and what the game offers to them.

[YoshiM]

When it comes to "game value", I always use the "movie theater" approach. Average movie is about 2 hours at about $7.50 at night. Use that to figure in the "value", as it were. In the case of Limbo, $15 is about on par if it's 4 hours long.

I find it kinda funny that people get so up tight about downloads. Yes I got bit a while back with DLC (couldn't get my Karaoke Revolution Party songs from one Xbox to another when my original was dying) but looking back, I've been buying software for my PC for years using the same concept. While I don't agree with paying full retail for games you can buy off the shelf, paying $15 for games you would possibly never EVER see in stores is worth it.

[ubersaurus]

You're insane.

I kind of preferred Marvel 1; sweeter presentation (stages, music), the sweet character duo attacks, the sweet assists, the fact that not everyone I like playing was complete garbage...

I mean, Strider was better than everyone else, and others like Red Venom and Double War Machine were really freaking good, but it wasn't as bad as Marvel 2 in that regard ;p

[Rob2600]

They should make a Limbo game for the Microsoft Kinect.

[Graham Mitchell]

I've been on vacation all week but I bought limbo on release night. I didn't buy it because of some review it got. I bought it because it looked interesting to ME. To me, it was worth $15 because it's a hell of an experience. So much of what people like or what they're willing to pay for is just subjective. You're gonna rother like it or you won't. No use bitching ir arguing about it.

Anyway, the games got an incredible atmosphere, interesting puzzles, and is viciously, terrifyingly violent. It's like a really fucked-up episode of Leave It To Beaver. If that sounds interesting to you, and you were ever a fan of Out of This World, you might like it.

[Lerxstnj]

Yeah, X-Play gave it 5 out of 5, but I won't get it because it's only 4 hours long and not much replay value.

[garagesaleking!!]

There is no denying the game is short, but then again I don't see how thats an outright bad thing. There's no rehash or repetition. Those 4 hours are 4 genuine hours.

And "to me so much of a ripoff of littlebigplanet in a way"? I hope that's a troll or just incredibly stupid. At least call it out on "Out of this World" and "Heart of Darkness."

How about no, those games were from another generation, and also did not achieve commercial success at the level of LBP, LBP was a revolution in this time. If they modeled Limbo after anything, they were trying to give xbox a side scroller to match the likes of Playstation.

[Jisho23]

How about no, those games were from another generation, and also did not achieve commercial success at the level of LBP, LBP was a revolution in this time. If they modeled Limbo after anything, they were trying to give xbox a side scroller to match the likes of Playstation.

But the Xbox already has a slew of great 2d platformers, so to say it was just trying to "match playstation" is equally stupid. And the puzzle element is so light in LBP that I fail to see a comparison between the two games.

To then say that "LBP is revolutionary?" Isn't it a little soon to make evaluations like that?

Now I am genuinely curious; aside from having to drag boxes around, and being in 2d, how the hell is LIMBO like LBP?

Oh, and if you are trolling, 10/10 cause you fooled me.

[Nightram]

This game is astonishingly brutal to its child-like character. It's off-putting. I was thinking, "okay, this is like a darker Boy and his Blob." Then I stepped on a trap. Wow.

[Graham Mitchell]

This game is astonishingly brutal to its child-like character. It's off-putting. I was thinking, "okay, this is like a darker Boy and his Blob." Then I stepped on a trap. Wow.
Such is the state of modern gaming today. Many critically acclaimed games these days contain
Abhorrent levels of violence which can vary between being just ridiculous and being absolutely upsetting. I was pretty disturbed by the torture scenes in Metal Gear Solid 3, and Shadow of the colossus had me so guilt-ridden I was actually in tears. By the time Bioshock came out I was getting pretty used to it. At this point ive reconciled the fact that these games are SUPPOSED to make you feel guilty or repulsed by your own actions attimes. Personally, I think it's a good thing when art of any kind triggers an emotional response from you, whether that response is pleasant or not. But I also acknowledge that this kind of thing isn't for everybody, so to each their own.

[Nightram]

You miss my point though. I can deal with gore. It's when gore is used in conjunction with a character who seems to be a young boy. To me, that's crossing a line.

[SegaAges]

I have a hard time with the "this isn't worth $60, this is only worth $10," etc. Value is difficult to quantify by play time, or any other method, because everybody's perception of worth is different. In my mind, a 3 hour game can be worth $60 if the experience is unique and high quality. A 100 hour grindfest won't get $5 out of me. I gladly plopped down $15 for Braid. I probably will wait on Limbo, despite liking it. Doesn't mean its not worth $15 to others. I'll pay $150 for Halo Reach. Others probably think its a waste of money, and wouldn't pick any Halo game up off of the ground even if it was free. Its all about perception of value and what the game offers to them.

Oh really. I think you should give me $150 and I will get you Halo reach

[Graham Mitchell]

You miss my point though. I can deal with gore. It's when gore is used in conjunction with a character who seems to be a young boy. To me, that's crossing a line.

Oh, no I totally understood your point. That's why I listed Bioshock, where you have the option of murdering little girls to achieve your own end, or Shadow of the Colossus, where playing the game essentially feels like merciless animal poaching. A lot of newer games are really raising the bar on the type of deplorable imagery or behavior they require to engage in. being a mild-mannered physician myself, it's sometimes fun to act like an animal in avirtual world, or be exposed to some horrific imagery. I think some people would rather not be exposed to this kind of thing. I'm just saying that all the animal murdering and child torture in games used to bug me.. Now I'm kind of over it.

[Dobie]

Oh really. I think you should give me $150 and I will get you Halo reach

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=77711

;-)

[Graham Mitchell]

I finished the game last night. It's quite an experience! If they do another one, hopefully they'll add more play time. However, the physics-based puzzles are great, and the game is aesthetically very nicely done. Id say the game is no more over-priced than Final Fantasy 2 was when it debuted at $79.99 in 1991.

[jbjabroni]

You know this is where a rental DLC option would be very nice. For a game this short, you can rent it for 24 hours for lets say 250MS points. People would jump on that probably.

[SegaAges]

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=77711

;-)

You never specified which version.

Give it 3 or 4 months and I will still get you that version if you pay me $150.

[kupomogli]

How about no, those games were from another generation, and also did not achieve commercial success at the level of LBP, LBP was a revolution in this time. If they modeled Limbo after anything, they were trying to give xbox a side scroller to match the likes of Playstation.

There's not really anything revolutionary about LittleBigPlanet. It's just a platformer that has a set of creation tools. Ever play Mega Man Powered Up(far better of a game.) There are many PC utilities that can create platform games with a large array of options. Opinion only, but the game is overrated garbage. I wanted the game for awhile, was going to wait until it dropped in price, then the GotY edition came out and while I was waiting for that to drop in price the demo came out.

I'm a big platformer fan and the idea of a platformer with an infinite amount of different levels interested me, and then the demo immediately turned me off from it. First off the sackboy looks retarded, but I've played games with stupid looking main characters so not really a problem there. The music is terrible, but again that doesn't bother me too much in games. Then it happens that the meat of the game, the platforming, just plain sucks. Due to the extremely loose controls and the design the game itself is too easy and felt like you were repeatedly jumping and jumping to complete the stage rather than getting any ounce of enjoyment out of it. It received tons of praise from critics and fans alike so I really wanted to like, but I think it's a pretty bad game and ended up being glad the demo came out before I threw the money down on it.

[Gooch3008]

I saw a pal play this for a few minutes awhile ago and I want ths game pretty bad. I think it is very original and awesome.

[Jisho23]

There's not really anything revolutionary about LittleBigPlanet. It's just a platformer that has a set of creation tools. Ever play Mega Man Powered Up(far better of a game.) There are many PC utilities that can create platform games with a large array of options. Opinion only, but the game is overrated garbage.


THANKYOU! Glad someone said it. I don't think LBP is bad, but it's certainly overrated and, even in the realm of single screen multiplayer, it's still outclassed by more creative platformers ('SPlosion man is a good example, N+ even moreso).

The conversation about how short LIMBO is still hasn't really died down. It seems to me that many people feel that playing the game in one run is the best way to play it. I'm just curious; does anyone know someone who beat the game in multiple sittings? I played it progressively over the course of 4~5 days, in little bite-sized chunks. I know its stupid to say that some people are "playing it wrong" but I have a feeling the game may have been designed in such a way that it's more rewarding to not simply play through the game as quickly as possible.