PS2 PS3 re-release hopes? [Archive] - Retrogaming Roundtable

emceelokey

10-20-2010, 06:23 PM

They've only been Sony published game so far right? God of War, Ico/Shadow, Sly Cooper Trilogy.

I'd love to see Frequency and Amplitude get re released but I'm pretty sure the song licensing would be a nightmare to get the rights to again. I'd like Sony to have a set to "reintroduce" some games that can possibly have another life like Mark of Kri, War of the Monsters and Primal. If they can do that set, that would be pretty awesome. It would also be awesome if Capcom could put out a set with SFIII: Third Strike, CVS2, and they could even just tack on MVC2 or SF2 Turbo HD remix. As long as all of them had online gameplay, I'd be in.

kupomogli

10-20-2010, 06:43 PM

Ubisoft has announced the three Prince of Persia games. I've heard the PS2 games were actually good and I've never played a Prince of Persia other than the original so I'll probably pick that game up.

Shin Megami Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga series
Xenosaga 1-3
Zone of the Enders 1 and 2

Devil May Cry 1, 2, and 3 Special Edition(come on Capcom. Don't let me down.)
Suikoden 3, 4, and 5
Blood Omen 2, Soul Reaver 2, and Legacy of Kain Defiance
Armored Core PS2 games(with an Armored Core Online included using Last Raven's parts and balance.)
Yakuza 1 and 2
Resident Evil Outbreak series(with less load times and bring back online.)

I'd like to see these get HD ports. I own every game listed but I'd definitely pick them up. I'd rather pay more money for a better version of a game I already own that doesn't suck and I know I'll play multiple times rather than buy a new game that sucks balls(which is most everything released now days.)

Howie6925

10-22-2010, 04:33 PM

I would love to see a kings field collection on the PS3, they would have to update the ps1 games but would be great to have.

Kitsune Sniper

10-22-2010, 05:08 PM

(...) It would also be awesome if Capcom could put out a set with SFIII: Third Strike, CVS2, and they could even just tack on MVC2 or SF2 Turbo HD remix. As long as all of them had online gameplay, I'd be in.

I doubt Capcom would bother to put any of these on a disc - it's easier (and more profitable) for them to sell these older games via digital distribution.

pseudonym

10-22-2010, 06:13 PM

Shin Megami games
Shadow Hearts series
Xenosaga 1-3
Onimusha 1-3
Zone of the Enders 1 and 2
Metal Gear Solid 1-3
Silent Hill 2-4

Have to agree with most of these. Never played the Yakuza games, are they any good?

Leo_A

10-22-2010, 06:39 PM

There are several others in the works as well beyond the 1st party collections already mentioned and Ubisoft's Prince of Persia collection.

Ubisoft is giving Beyond Good & Evil the HD treatment with a XBLA/PSN release in mind (Not really part of this program, but it's along the same lines).

And as part of Sony's Classics HD line, Ubisoft is working on a Rayman Trilogy and a Splinter Cell Trilogy.

And Mortal Kombat HD Arcade Kollection is also confirmed to be underway and is part of the Classics HD line, although there seems to be a bit of confusion over just what the content of it will be. Some say it's going to include HD versions of MK1/2/3, some say it will include MK1/2 and UMK3, and some say it's going to include Armageddon, Deception, and Shaolin Monks. Including the three PS2 titles would make the most sense and best fit the program.

eskobar

10-22-2010, 06:58 PM

Leo_A

10-22-2010, 07:07 PM

I fail to see the harm in a handful of rereleases of excellent titles from the preceding generation that are redone to take advantage of the HD televisions so many of us now own.

They're economical to develop and are released at budget prices. Furthermore, it's hardly anything new. We see games get rereleased from preceding generations all the time in each console generation. And they're hardly dominating the sales charts and monopolizing the time of gamers.

heybtbm

10-22-2010, 08:16 PM

My dream HD re-release would be Shadow of the Colossus...and since that's actually happening, I'm at a loss to think of anything else.

Resident Evil 4? Of course the PS2/PS3 controller sucks for that game...so maybe not. Then again, it's Capcom. I've heard they like to re-release games from time to time.

Leo_A

10-22-2010, 08:32 PM

Resident Evil 4? Of course the PS2/PS3 controller sucks for that game...so maybe not. Then again, it's Capcom. I've heard they like to re-release games from time to time.

They could always offer support for the Move, then they could retain the Wii style controls as an option.

betamax001

10-22-2010, 08:58 PM

As long as the games keep the orignal 4:3 display in addition to 16:9, I'd be more than happy to get the HD remakes.

maxlords

10-22-2010, 09:49 PM

What is wrong with you people ?

Those games are so fresh and you want a re-release ?!?!?!? ..... That is the reason this generation is a fail, almost everyone wanna re-play recent games :puppydogeyes:

Because they're new enough to truly benefit from an HD makeover when many older games are not?

j_factor

10-22-2010, 10:32 PM

I'd really like Shinobi, bundled with Nightshade.

What is wrong with you people ?

Those games are so fresh and you want a re-release ?!?!?!? ..... That is the reason this generation is a fail, almost everyone wanna re-play recent games :puppydogeyes:

PS2 graphics have a tendency to be pretty rough. The generation's other consoles are easier on the eyes, but PS2 games are in a position to especially benefit from the visual upgrade.

And as part of Sony's Classics HD line, Ubisoft is working on a Rayman Trilogy and a Splinter Cell Trilogy.

Weren't the PS2 versions of Splinter Cell significant downgrades, with gameplay differences, from Xbox? Seems silly that they'd do Splinter Cell that way.

Vlcice

10-23-2010, 12:22 AM

That is the reason this generation is a fail, almost everyone wanna re-play recent games :puppydogeyes:

You didn't like Mario All-Stars?

Jaruff

10-23-2010, 12:33 AM

Weren't the PS2 versions of Splinter Cell significant downgrades, with gameplay differences, from Xbox? Seems silly that they'd do Splinter Cell that way.

From my understanding it was a hardware issue with the PS2.

If Ubi is doing a Splinter Cell set, why not release every Splinter Cell into a single package? I'd love to play Conviction on my PS3 and I don't have a 360 and I read the PC port was terrible.

I'd happily pay $80-100 to have the original last-gen titles in HD with Double Agent and Conviction in a Collector's Edition. Throw in a pair of those working goggles and I'd consider paying more. Excellent stealth series.

I'd love to see Manhunt in HD but that's not happening for obvious reasons.

Leo_A

10-23-2010, 06:52 PM

Weren't the PS2 versions of Splinter Cell significant downgrades, with gameplay differences, from Xbox? Seems silly that they'd do Splinter Cell that way.

It's not a Playstation 2 emulator running original code. So I'm sure they're going to be the definitive console versions of these games and that they won't restrict themselves to just using the assets of the Playstation 2 titles as they port them over. I suspect that Pandora Tomorrow for example will have all the benefits of the PC and Xbox versions while having things like the bonus mission that the inferior PS2 and GameCube version of the game had to compensate for the downgrading.

If Ubi is doing a Splinter Cell set, why not release every Splinter Cell into a single package? I'd love to play Conviction on my PS3 and I don't have a 360 and I read the PC port was terrible.

I'd happily pay $80-100 to have the original last-gen titles in HD with Double Agent and Conviction in a Collector's Edition. Throw in a pair of those working goggles and I'd consider paying more. Excellent stealth series.

The reasons are rather obvious.

Because this is a compilation of material from the preceding console generation, not this one. If they had any interest in releasing Conviction on the PS3, they'd of ported it and released it back in April for $60 when the game launched rather then tossing it into a $40 compilation.

And Double Agent was released on the Playstation 3 back in 2007. It would've been nice to see the SD console version of it that the Xbox/PS2/GCN/Wii saw since it was a very different game, but they'd rather be selling Double Agent in 2010 on the PS3 as a Greatest Hit's release rather then as part of a budget compilation.

ScourDX

10-24-2010, 12:16 PM

Everyone wants HD graphic these day...lol. I would rather see most of the game ported to handheld. That way you can take it anywhere you go.

j_factor

10-24-2010, 12:24 PM

It's not a Playstation 2 emulator running original code. So I'm sure they're going to be the definitive console versions of these games and that they won't restrict themselves to just using the assets of the Playstation 2 titles as they port them over. I suspect that Pandora Tomorrow for example will have all the benefits of the PC and Xbox versions while having things like the bonus mission that the inferior PS2 and GameCube version of the game had to compensate for the downgrading.

I was thinking more of the original game, which had very redesigned levels between Xbox and PS2. And if they are going by the Xbox/PC versions, it seems incongruous that they would release it as part of a "Sony's Classics HD" line. They should release it separate from that line.

Leo_A

10-24-2010, 07:02 PM

I was thinking more of the original game, which had very redesigned levels between Xbox and PS2. And if they are going by the Xbox/PC versions, it seems incongruous that they would release it as part of a "Sony's Classics HD" line. They should release it separate from that line.

The title is "Classics HD", not "Playstation 2 Classics HD". It's older generation material being redone to take advantage of the capabilities of the Playstation 3 and be resold to consumers in a state ready to take best advantage of their HD televisions. There is no limitation that the content had to have appeared on the Playstation 2, which is why you'll see things like Rayman, which never appeared on the PS2, be included on Rayman Trilogy. And similarly, if a game was on the PS2, there's no reason to think that they're limited to just what appeared on the PS2 specific version of a game being redone under this program.

I think most people want to see the Resident Evil 4 approach from the Wii. In that example, they combined the best elements of earlier versions of the game into a definitive release (The graphics and detail of the GameCube release combined with the extras of the Playstation 2 version and the superior control offered with the Wiimote). I assume (And hope) that is the approach that Ubisoft is taking here. For example if they compiled their two past gen Brothers in Arms games into this line, I would hope the more complex and challenging AI routines of the Xbox versions would be used over the simplified (And almost broken in the case of Earned in Blood) AI routines of the Playstation 2 releases. Why would anyone not want that to be the case?

I'm unaware of huge level differences between the Xbox and Playstation 2 versions of the original Splinter Cell where levels are present in each game (Although I can recall some later games in the line being completely different depending on the system it appeared on), but it's been years since I've played the game on either console. I remember both games playing a fair bit differently though.

But by taking the best elements of the game, you'll be able to have the exclusive power plant mission from the PS2 game and the three downloadable missions the Xbox game saw, for one example.

That's the approach I'm hoping for, a combination of the best elements of the game combined with an HD makeover. Can't really understand why someone wouldn't want that to be the case and want them to restrict themselves solely to what was on the Playstation 2 version of a game.

j_factor

10-24-2010, 07:22 PM

The title is "Classics HD", not "Playstation 2 Classics HD". It's older generation material being redone to take advantage of the capabilities of the Playstation 3 and be resold to consumers in a state ready to take best advantage of their HD televisions. There is no limitation that the content had to have appeared on the Playstation 2, which is why you'll see things like Rayman, which never appeared on the PS2, be included on Rayman Trilogy. And similarly, if a game was on the PS2, there's reason to think that they're limited to just what appeared on the PS2 specific version of a game being redone under this program.

I suppose I misinterpreted that post, but it seemed to imply that it was Playstation-specific ("Sony's..."). Rayman appeared on Playstation, which is also "Sony's". Also the subject of this thread specifically says PS2, it doesn't say "last gen". Of course there was Ninja Gaiden Sigma, a PS3 port of an Xbox game, and there's no reason other publishers can't do the same, but this is apparently a special line of games, not individual releases. When Nintendo had the Classic NES Series for GBA, every release was based directly on the NES version of the game, ignoring everything else -- including the third-party games.

I hope it's not the case here, but I haven't seen any solid indication to the contrary.

Leo_A

10-24-2010, 07:34 PM

Just to be clear, I don't know the inner workings of this program either.

Just giving my take on the way I think they should go about it, which is to release the best product they can regardless of the source material. Would be ashame, for example, to not see those Xbox DLC missions on a Splinter Cell collection just because the Playstation 2 version of the game lacked them back in the day.

Being that they're actually ports, rather then just a Playstation 2 disc image running through a Playstation 2 emulator, it doesn't seem like an unreasonable hope. The Classic NES series on the GBA were identical to their console counterparts because they were the original console titles running through a NES emulator.

The 1 2 P

10-24-2010, 07:40 PM

I vote for the three Syphon Filter games(The Omega Strain, Dark Mirror and Logan's Shadow). I know that the last two are Psp ports and that Logan's Shadow just recently came out for the PS2 earlier this year but this might be the closest we get to having the Syphon Filter series on the PS3. Four years and no new PS3 version of Syphon Filter? Come on Sony.

My other pick is probably something that only I want but I'd also like to see a Bust-A-Groove 1/2 collection with online multiplayer for both. That could literally steal some of my fps time away from me. And yes, I know that BAG 1/2 were PS1 games but I just thought I'd throw them in anyway(there is an import only PS2 version but I haven't played that yet).

duffmanth

10-30-2010, 05:08 PM

Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3.

exit

10-31-2010, 08:26 AM

Siren 1 and 2, especially considering we never got Siren 2 here.

j_factor

10-31-2010, 07:31 PM

Siren 1 and 2, especially considering we never got Siren 2 here.

Siren already had a full remake, which IMO is a significant improvement over the original. It would be nice if they gave Siren 2 the same treatment.

exit

10-31-2010, 08:29 PM

Siren already had a full remake, which IMO is a significant improvement over the original. It would be nice if they gave Siren 2 the same treatment.

It was more of a retelling than anything and as frustrating as it was, I wouldn't mind seeing the original getting a slight graphical upgrade. Plus, it would give them an excuse to finally release the sequel state side, since people would have an actual interest in it because of Blood Curse.

Xtincthed

11-01-2010, 05:11 PM

i'm just mind boggled noone mentioned Micro Machines V4!!! :p

on a serious note Max Payne!

kupomogli

12-20-2010, 12:29 AM

Tomb Raider is getting a trilogy release. The PS3 trilogy release Underworld as well as the PS2 versions of Legends and Anniversary on the same Bluray. I guess I can wait to pick this up for under $20 since I already have the PS2 versions, just don't have Underworld.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/114/1140977p1.html

Leo_A

12-20-2010, 03:30 AM

I'm imagine the HD versions of Legend and Anniversary would be ports of the Xbox 360 versions.

G-Boobie

12-20-2010, 04:58 AM

It was more of a retelling than anything and as frustrating as it was, I wouldn't mind seeing the original getting a slight graphical upgrade. Plus, it would give them an excuse to finally release the sequel state side, since people would have an actual interest in it because of Blood Curse.

I couldn't agree more. Siren is a wildly underrated series, and we didn't get the best entry here in the states. Blood Curse is great too, but Siren 2 is the way to go.

Robocop2

12-20-2010, 09:56 AM

I'd love a Twisted Metal collection

kupomogli

02-07-2011, 02:24 AM

Devil May Cry Collection is rumored to have a release. All games in the series on both the PS3 and the 360.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/83939/rumor-devil-may-cry-collection-headed-to-ps3360/

staxx

02-07-2011, 02:35 AM

Phantasy Star Generations in English on the PS3 or whatever reason for that matter.

kirbykirb

02-07-2011, 03:46 AM

Would love to see a Final Fantasy 8 - X remake.

X is pretty recent though so hope not, but 8 can defintley benefit.
7 would have everyone complaining about it not being the original, etc.

kupomogli

06-02-2011, 08:59 PM

Metal Gear Solid HD Collection and Zone of Enders HD Collection announced. MGS Includes the PS2 and PSP(Peacewalker) Metal Gear Solid titles.

*edit*

Silent Hill 2 and 3 HD Collection as well.

Leo_A

06-02-2011, 10:16 PM

Since this was bumped, I thought I'd revisit some things.

Resident Evil 4? Of course the PS2/PS3 controller sucks for that game...so maybe not. Then again, it's Capcom. I've heard they like to re-release games from time to time.
They could always offer support for the Move, then they could retain the Wii style controls as an option.

A PS3/360 release is now confirmed, and although I haven't seen in confirmed, it's widely believed that the PS3 version will support the Move accessory.

It's not a Playstation 2 emulator running original code. So I'm sure they're going to be the definitive console versions of these games and that they won't restrict themselves to just using the assets of the Playstation 2 titles as they port them over. I suspect that Pandora Tomorrow for example will have all the benefits of the PC and Xbox versions while having things like the bonus mission that the inferior PS2 and GameCube version of the game had to compensate for the downgrading.I was thinking more of the original game, which had very redesigned levels between Xbox and PS2. And if they are going by the Xbox/PC versions, it seems incongruous that they would release it as part of a "Sony's Classics HD" line. They should release it separate from that line.

Their Splinter Cell collection is confirmed now to be based on the PC versions. I never thought basing it off the least capable versions in the series for an HD revamp made much sense.

I vote for the three Syphon Filter games(The Omega Strain, Dark Mirror and Logan's Shadow). I know that the last two are Psp ports and that Logan's Shadow just recently came out for the PS2 earlier this year but this might be the closest we get to having the Syphon Filter series on the PS3. Four years and no new PS3 version of Syphon Filter? Come on Sony.

Looks like your getting your wish with Sony's new PSP remastering program for the PS3. Lots of rumors in recent weeks before that announcement about the PSP's Syphon Filter games coming to the PSP. And now that we know officially that there is a PSP remastering program in place for the PS3, the rumors are looking even better. Wouldn't be surprised to see a collection announced at E3 with HD versions of all three.

The 1 2 P

06-04-2011, 05:57 PM

Looks like your getting your wish with Sony's new PSP remastering program for the PS3. Lots of rumors in recent weeks before that announcement about the PSP's Syphon Filter games coming to the PSP. And now that we know officially that there is a PSP remastering program in place for the PS3, the rumors are looking even better. Wouldn't be surprised to see a collection announced at E3 with HD versions of all three.

Theres also a rumor that Syphon Filter 4(which would technically be Syphon Filter 7) is going to be announced for the PS3 at Sony's E3 conference.

NayusDante

06-04-2011, 07:06 PM

Mega Man series, all of them

Final Fantasy VI and VIII

Metal Gear: The Twin Snakes (why isn't this in the collection?)

Katamari Damacy

Guilty Gear series (now that Arc has the rights back...)

Unreal Tournament '99

Ys Collection (1-7)

Front Mission

Mech Warrior

The Legend of Zelda (1986)

Blaster Master (the last one was meh)

Vagrant Story

Gate 88 (Sony and Jonathan Mak seem to be getting along rather well today...)

Wing Commander, Privateer

Yoshi's Island

Seaman

Dragon Quest I-III

kupomogli

06-04-2011, 07:09 PM

I'd like Zelda and Yoshi's Island to have a PS3 rerelease also. :P. Jk jk.

NayusDante

06-04-2011, 07:10 PM

Did someone change the title while I was writing this or am I just really out of it today? >_<

kupomogli

06-04-2011, 07:16 PM

Title hasn't been changed. I thought it was kind of funny you had two NIntendo titles in there.

NayusDante

06-04-2011, 07:20 PM

I just saw "HD re-release." Just disregard, I apparently can't read today.

The 1 2 P

06-04-2011, 07:31 PM

If Nintendo gets out of the hardware business we might see those titles on a Sony console.

substantial_snake

06-05-2011, 07:02 AM

I would LOVE to see a Ratchet and Clank HD collection. That series of action/platformers really got be back into the genera again. A Jak and Daxster collection would be fun too although wasn't a huge fan of that series.

Although its incredibly unlikely I would really like to see a remake/rebuild of the first three Crash Bandicoot and Spyro series for the PS3. Its a total long shot since those IP have been so battered lately but I had a lotta great memories with those games and friends. :)

j_factor

06-05-2011, 08:39 PM

Their Splinter Cell collection is confirmed now to be based on the PC versions. I never thought basing it off the least capable versions in the series for an HD revamp made much sense.

And yet, the Tomb Raider collection apparently was based on the PS2 versions. Don't make no sense.

Looks like your getting your wish with Sony's new PSP remastering program for the PS3. Lots of rumors in recent weeks before that announcement about the PSP's Syphon Filter games coming to the PSP. And now that we know officially that there is a PSP remastering program in place for the PS3, the rumors are looking even better. Wouldn't be surprised to see a collection announced at E3 with HD versions of all three.

They were already on PS2. It sounded to me like the PSP-to-PS3 thing was only going to cover games that didn't get PS2 ports.

Leo_A

06-05-2011, 09:06 PM

And yet, the Tomb Raider collection apparently was based on the PS2 versions. Don't make no sense.

They were already on PS2. It sounded to me like the PSP-to-PS3 thing was only going to cover games that didn't get PS2 ports.

Are you sure they went with the PS2 versions? Seems like they're just making their job more difficult and expensive then it has to be since they already had HD versions to go to for each on the Xbox 360 (And probably PC).

As for the PSP remastering program, they never said that but I hope you're right. I'd rather see them concentrate on games without any console ports rather than spending time remastering things that were already released on the Playstation 2.

Konami is remastering a PSP game for their Metal Gear Solid compilation for consoles, but that's multiplatform and isn't part of Sony's official program.

j_factor

06-05-2011, 10:38 PM

Are you sure they went with the PS2 versions? Seems like they're just making their job more difficult and expensive then it has to be since they already had HD versions to go to for each on the Xbox 360 (And probably PC).

That's what they said in press. Also I found out the Xbox 360 versions were only 576p.

Konami is remastering a PSP game for their Metal Gear Solid compilation for consoles, but that's multiplatform and isn't part of Sony's official program.

I'm disappointed that it doesn't include Portable Ops, though.

Leo_A

06-05-2011, 10:58 PM

I'm not even sure why I mentioned that.

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker is a PSP exclusive and never was ported to the PS2. For some reason I was thinking it was an example of a PSP game being remastered for current generation consoles that had seen a PS2 release in the past, which of course it never did.

substantial_snake

06-06-2011, 08:59 PM

I would also like to see an Ace Combat 4, 5, and Zero Collection on PS3 but again another longshot.

Leo_A

06-06-2011, 11:36 PM

I would also like to see an Ace Combat 4, 5, and Zero Collection on PS3 but again another longshot.

While I would like that, I'd rather see them give their two excellent PSP releases a proper console release.

substantial_snake

06-07-2011, 05:53 AM

While I would like that, I'd rather see them give their two excellent PSP releases a proper console release.

Right I haden't even thought of that. Although the story was weaker on those games the missions were pretty varied especially in X. Those game with dual shock support would be sweet. :D

Frankie_Says_Relax

06-07-2011, 10:46 PM

Leo_A

06-08-2011, 12:07 AM

Probably not quite what this thread is looking for, but I'd love it if Capcom bundled their PS2 classics collections (Vol. 1 & 2) on one Blu-Ray with HD/upscaled output ... and they could throw some more games/development galleries/soundtracks on there for good measure.

Or in place of a slate of fresh games to complement their existing lineup, they could go the Namco route and toss in some of their PSN/XBLA releases to fill out their lineup (Like they did with Namco Museum Virtual Arcade).

They have some nice digital exclusives that deserve a physical release someday.