Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim ( a Todd Howard joint) [Archive]

WCP

12-12-2010, 03:03 AM

Wow...

I wasn't expecting another Todd Howard production this quickly after Fallout 3. I guess they must have had this in pre-production during Fallout 3, and as soon as the animators, programmers, etc, etc had finished their respective jobs on Fallout 3, they probably immediately got to work on Skyrim.

I can't wait to see the first screenshots of actual gameplay.

G-Boobie

12-12-2010, 03:09 AM

THAR BE DRAGONS UP IN DIS PIECE. ALSO VIKINGS.

Can't wait. Sold Sold Sold.

2011 looks like it's going to be an expensive year for me.

heybtbm

12-12-2010, 10:38 AM

I'm shocked it's coming out this generation. I thought for sure Elder Scrolls V would be a next-gen launch title.

My #1 most anticipated game for next year.

First trailer...http://www.gametrailers.com/video/vga-10-elder-scrolls/708369

ScourDX

12-12-2010, 01:13 PM

With the id software acquisition, I am hoping they will use Rage engine.

NayusDante

12-12-2010, 02:36 PM

With the id software acquisition, I am hoping they will use Rage engine.

Seconded. Gamebryo worked for what they were doing before, but if they want to evolve the gameplay at all, it needs an id engine. Carmack knows how to balance pretty with performance, while Oblivion was mostly just pretty. I know TES is an RPG series, but what they're trying to do really needs smooth action.

Do we have a target platform list? A PC version is likely, but I don't know if the current consoles are up for what I'd expect Skyrim to be. If they're still using the same engine, then I'd go so far as to say I can wait a few years for something new.

heybtbm

12-12-2010, 02:51 PM

With the id software acquisition, I am hoping they will use Rage engine.

It won't be using the "Rage" Engine...

From IGN (via Kotaku):

Bethesda Game Director Todd Howard explained in a separate interview with IGN that his game would not use id Tech 5. The studio's new engine built for its upcoming title is more beneficial to creating huge, open-world games, such as Fallout 3 and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, while id Tech 5 is better for more contained environments.

NayusDante

12-12-2010, 03:08 PM

The studio's new engine built for its upcoming title is more beneficial to creating huge, open-world games, such as Fallout 3 and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, while id Tech 5 is better for more contained environments.

Huh??? I thought the whole point of Rage was to create a "huge, open-world FPS." From the footage I've seen it would be perfect for this sort of thing.

Oh well, at least it's a "new" engine.

Nesmaster

12-12-2010, 03:56 PM

Absolutely stoked. Cannot wait for this one.

kupomogli

12-12-2010, 06:32 PM

I hope they lay off the random rock generator on this one. Oblivion and the Fallout games were filled with rocks everywhere.

NayusDante

12-12-2010, 07:28 PM

I hope they lay off the random rock generator on this one. Oblivion and the Fallout games were filled with rocks everywhere.

You're supposed to jump on those. It builds your Acrobatics skill.

BHvrd

12-13-2010, 12:00 AM

Severing of Limbs....

Must have,

Severing of Limbs. PLEEEEEASE.

Teaser looks epic...

WCP

12-13-2010, 12:23 AM

If they're still using the same engine, then I'd go so far as to say I can wait a few years for something new.

Look, I'd love a new engine as much as the next guy, but saying that you're simply going to pass on it just because of the game engine? So far, this development team is batting 1,000 as far as I'm concerned. They've released two games this generation (Oblivion and Fallout 3), both of which are considered as possible all-time classics. Oblivion was an amazing game so early in the life-cycle of the Xbox 360.

Someone who never experienced Oblivion in 2006, might not understand how amazing it was when it first hit the scene. It was like the dream game. You play it now, in 2010, and it seems very rough around the edges, with a lot of little nagging issues and bugs.

Fallout 3, improved things a bit, but still was kinda rough around the edges, and still had it's share of bugs. Still, both games are so freaking ambitious. You really have to give Todd Howard's team much props on their two releases this generation. Possibly two of the more ambitious games ever released, in terms of their scope, and potential immersion factor.

kupomogli

12-13-2010, 12:43 AM

NayusDante

12-13-2010, 11:24 PM

Oblivion was absolutely great in 2006, and it's still worth playing today. The issue is that it was amazing back in 2006, and now we're entering 2011. Five years is pushing it for a game engine, and I'm surprised they've squeezed Fallout out of it this late. In the context of a next-generation TES title, I don't even see Gamebryo as an option. It would feel like an Oblivion DLC pack, not a new game in the series. What I was implying is that I would prefer that they keep working for another year or so if it would ensure that they would have a new engine, not that I would skip it entirely.

I'm surprised they didn't do a few side games after Oblivion. I haven't actually played Battlespire or Redgard, but something like those might have been nice during the wait for TES 5.

Leo_A

12-13-2010, 11:36 PM

The quote specifically states "new game engine".

Just because it isn't id's latest effort doesn't mean what they're using isn't a new game engine built from the ground up, or a heavily modified and improved version of what powered Oblivion and the Fallout games.

I can't imagine it being a dud after what they did with Oblivion half a decade ago.

pseudonym

12-13-2010, 11:59 PM

Can't wait for this to come out too.

I hope that the parallel levelling and randomly generated generic hills and forest are left out this time around. I hope that it's more like Morrowind in other words with different books, more variety of landscape and conversation, and maybe other Daedric realms other than "Oblivion" and it's lava, huge towers, and large, irratating mobs. I swear that Daedric monsters were the most irratating monsters in Oblivion, right up there with the Cliff Racer from Morrowind.

shopkins

12-14-2010, 12:27 AM

King's Field > Oblvion

King's Field doesn't even have half the amount of customization that Oblivion has or as much to do but the game is just better. I'm talking about the first game released in the US as well as the rest of the series including Eternal Ring and Shadow Tower. Oblivion's level design just sucked. Morrowind had a much better designed world. The King's Field games also don't have all the tedious fetch quests and incredibly boring storylines and sub plots.

That's - simply asinine.

Anyway, I didn't really expect another Elder Scrolls during this console generation, so this is probably my most anticipated game of the year now. I hope they bring back flying, implement better character animation including removing the stick from the characters' butts when they walk, make combat more interesting, make the scaling less intrusive, and bring better dialogue and a better dialogue system to the new game.

allyourblood

12-14-2010, 02:39 AM

I'm just chiming in to say this is now officially my most-anticipated game, even pushing aside my excitement for Bioshock Infinite.

I put well over 350 hours into Oblivion across 3 play-throughs on 2 platforms, and I thought it was simply one of the most fun games I've ever played. I only now find fault with its shortcomings, as previously discussed, since so many newer, and in some ways improved, game experiences have been released in the interim.

On the geekier side of things, I thought the random environments were (and still are) some of the most impressive I've seen. I always appreciated that, textures aside, no two areas ever really looked much alike, and things like the blowing foliage in the trees and bushes and the additional growth in the flow-line of valleys was so realistic. Sometimes I would climb a random hill and have my character stand still until the camera panned out and 360'd the vista. Awesome.

Anyway, I can't wait for this game, and considering its popularity, I'm confident Bethesda isn't going to risk bungling this one. I only hope they don't spoil the game by "wasting" (in my opinion) any resources on multiplayer. About the only MP I'd consider endorsing is co-op, but in keeping with past Elder Scrolls entries, I don't think it would much fit the context of the series.

Oh, and add me to the list of people hoping they de-ugly the character creation (it was always difficult to create a character that didn't look like a random mix of Tom Petty and Eugene Levy), and improve the leveling system.

Jehusephat

12-15-2010, 07:25 AM

Oblivion is one of my most-played games ever, and I still haven't done everything there is to do in it. That being said, I just watched the teaser for Skyrim and laughed at it. I'm sure I'll love the actual game, but I wish they had chosen a different route for the story. Dragon slaying stories are like Harlequin romance novels for fantasy fans, and I'm sure Bethesda knows it. They're probably counting on the generic setting to sell the game to the masses, but they need to know that the sort of person who spends hundreds of hours playing Oblivion will play anything they make--they can afford to get a little creative if they want to.

NayusDante

12-16-2010, 10:56 PM

maxlords

12-16-2010, 11:36 PM

yeah, I'd definitely like to see a BIT more work put into the main story this time.....that was the biggest downside of Oblivion. The other was the incredibly repetitive nature of the Daedric portals.... *yawn*

Other than that, can't wait for this one...it's been FAR too long....

shopkins

12-17-2010, 09:27 AM

How many people actually played the main story in Oblivion? I honestly don't care what the story's about, so long as it pushes the envelope in terms of roleplaying and exploration. The factions and sidequests were more fun than the main story, and accounted for most of the content in the game.

I played it for about a hundred hours and only did a couple of the main storyline quests. I did get to the point where I was ready to finish it, though. I had done all the Mage's Guild and Fighter's Guild quests and I wanted to be the hero while my reputation was still good and before finishing Thieve's Guild or assassinating people.

pseudonym

12-17-2010, 02:51 PM

The Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood quests are a lot better than the main quest IMO.

hbkprm

12-17-2010, 03:55 PM

if i liked fallout 3 i will love elder scrolls v

Collector_Gaming

12-17-2010, 04:38 PM

shopkins

12-17-2010, 07:16 PM

I love love love Morrowind and Oblivion

so yes i will definitely buy this one when it comes out!!!

someone mentioned books...

I wonder who has read every single book in those games?

Are any of the stories in them good?

Are there some easter eggs within them?

The books do a pretty good job of fleshing the world out and making it feel more real. A lot of the stuff in the books you can actually find in the game. I thought the books were better in Morrowind, though. Oblivion seems to recycle a lot of the Morrowind ones.

pseudonym

12-18-2010, 12:20 AM

The non-fiction books do a great job at fleshing out the back story of the series from multiple points of view in some cases, which extends thousands of years in the past apparently (I've never tried to make sense of the whole "era" thing though). The fiction books mostly have the same twist at the end that's predictable, but the stories are entertaining or amusing enough themselves.

shopkins

12-18-2010, 01:04 AM

For example, you can find a book in Morrowind called Arkay the Enemy. It almost sounds like gibberish, but it's actually really important to the backstory of the war against the necromancers and the gods involved. And the person who wrote it is someone you can meet and fight in Oblivion.

boatofcar

12-19-2010, 11:59 AM

I cannot wait for this game! If they can improve on the main questline, it has the potential to be the best game of this generation. I never really had a problem with the combat, although some people thought it was janky. The only part that really sucked for me was the Oblivion gates themselves.

whoisKeel

12-22-2010, 04:46 PM

heybtbm

12-22-2010, 08:01 PM

I'm actually playing through Oblivion for the first time right now. Love it. Finally getting around to the main storyline, and it could use some work. I definitely enjoyed the thieves guild, will have to try the dark brotherhood.

Before you finish the Dark Brotherhood quests, make sure you finish the quest The Renegade Shadowscale (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:The_Renegade_Shadowscale) first. I won't spoil anything...just do Shadowscale first.

calthaer

01-21-2011, 02:12 PM

gum_drops

01-21-2011, 02:30 PM

Hopefully they revamp the leveling/skill point placement system and the fighting system. As much as I liked Oblivion both of those areas need some work. For combat, something similar to Demons Souls would be great. I am not saying to copy it but it was just so tactical in its approach, rewarding thoughtful strategy.

boatofcar

01-21-2011, 11:30 PM

I really hope they do away with the concept of enemies leveling with you. It breaks the game in a lot of places.

Porksta

01-21-2011, 11:36 PM

I really hope they do away with the concept of enemies leveling with you. It breaks the game in a lot of places.

This. I hated that about Oblivion. When I am level 30 I want to feel like I am god like and can destroy enemies. On the flip side you can enter any dungeon and know you are a high enough level to take on anything inside.

Richter Belmount

01-22-2011, 04:47 AM

A howard johnson joint effort? Will it include their delicious breakfasts?

maxlords

01-22-2011, 09:12 AM

This. I hated that about Oblivion. When I am level 30 I want to feel like I am god like and can destroy enemies. On the flip side you can enter any dungeon and know you are a high enough level to take on anything inside.

I thought it was great to still be challenged when I got to a high level. I hate being able to just walk through and smite everything in my path....makes it boring.

heybtbm

01-22-2011, 09:20 AM

I thought it was great to still be challenged when I got to a high level. I hate being able to just walk through and smite everything in my path....makes it boring.

There was always the difficulty slider if you wanted to punish yourself.

Actually...if you think about it, the inclusion of the difficulty slider is only possible if you scale the enemies to the player's level. I'm sure we'll see both return in Skyrim.

Lady Jaye

09-12-2011, 02:08 PM

WCP

09-14-2011, 02:01 AM

I'm looking forward to it, but since I have a fairly big backlog of games, I don't care for the limited edition (especially not at the MSRP) and Zelda is coming out a week later, I'll wait a bit, probably till early 2012 to get a copy. I should finish Morrowind and Oblivion first anyway...

Yeah, I agree with this. We all know how great the Bethesda games are, yet we also know how amazingly buggy they can be early on. As much as I'd love to jump into Skyrim, I'm still playing my way thru Fallout 3, which has finally been patched so many times that it's relatively stable. Of course, I have to run a bunch of mods on top of it to make it unstable...

Yeah, this will be a huge, amazing game that I will play for months on end, but I'm going to wait until it's had at least 3 or 4 patches before concerning myself with such a huge life-wasting game. Don't get it wrong, it will be a "life well wasted" playing this beauty, but I'm going to wait for the patches. (and a lower price too, heh..)

dystopian

09-15-2011, 02:59 PM

http://kotaku.com/5839422/have-a-seat-and-enjoy-20-minutes-of-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/gallery/1

20 minute gameplay footage.

Leo_A

09-15-2011, 03:05 PM

Yeah, this will be a huge, amazing game that I will play for months on end, but I'm going to wait until it's had at least 3 or 4 patches before concerning myself with such a huge life-wasting game. Don't get it wrong, it will be a "life well wasted" playing this beauty, but I'm going to wait for the patches. (and a lower price too, heh..)

Another advantage of waiting for something like the inevitable GOTY release is they often include some or all of the DLC that has been released up to that point.

misfits859

09-15-2011, 09:29 PM

http://kotaku.com/5839422/have-a-seat-and-enjoy-20-minutes-of-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/gallery/1

20 minute gameplay footage.

Gawdamn this game is gonna be fun. I liked how the dragon came out of nowhere and picked the hill giant up and flung him to the ground mid-flight during the fight with the PC. Really itching to play this...

heybtbm

11-12-2011, 10:58 AM

Well, I overdid it a bit. 8 hours played yesterday (I've only "completed" 3 quests) and I didn't even receive the game until 3pm. So much to do, so much to explore.

A few notes:

-The texture/install issue people have been talking about is now fixed thanks to a day one patch. Very happy to see Bethesda act fast on that one.

-Load times are virtually non-existent. BIG change from Oblivion. Also, no more pressing buttons to enter/exit doors, caves, etc.

-5 difficulty settings. It starts you out in the middle which feels just right (IMO).

-Lock picking is very similar to Fallout 3/New Vegas! Love it.

-Attacking with magic is very similar to Bioshock. It also feels powerful right from the start.

-Love...LOVE the leveling "perk" system. So much better than Oblivion. You level up what skills/abilities you use the most. No "locking yourself in" to set classes/abilities from the start.

I have the 360 version and am simply in awe. Gaming perfection.

FxMercenary

11-12-2011, 12:38 PM

gepeto

11-12-2011, 01:25 PM

I am loving it too! I got it for PC! With the FXAA enabled, the game landscape looks real to me. I am glad I built a new desktop for Battlefield 3, because this game is amazing too.

Here is my "unboxed" pic I took to text to friends
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc184/fxmercenary/skyrim.jpg

That looks sweet. That is a big book is that the strategy guide? I was at gamestop yesterday and skyrim was flying off the shelves. Great for an rpg.

misfits859

11-12-2011, 03:05 PM

Is it too early to call this one of the best RPGs ever? I'm really leaning that way...

Ludwig

11-12-2011, 06:14 PM

That is a big book is that the strategy guide?

It's actually a art-book with sketches and pictures of objects, characters, architecture and stuff like that etc etc, and it's about the only thing in the box that is really nice. I wrote a comment on the contents in the other topic.

As for the game: The interface is a lot worse than expected, which is surprising as i wasn't expecting anything, but even the oblivion UI was better, especially true for the inventory. it genuinely disturbs me and keeps me from immersing, it handles shit and it doesn't fit in terms of looks. While the world itself looks very nice it's not up to par of what's possible which was clear from the start, but still is a letdown, especially as morrowind and oblivion been groundbreaking.

Something that was good stayed the same though! Everything else is pretty fucking awesome! Exploring and sidequests everywhere! Tons of cool little stories. Well, i'm constantly refreshing SkyrimNexus in hoping a mod for the UI will pop up and maybe some better graphics enhancements, after that i will be fine again.

Edit:
As far as best RPG of the year goes: There still is the Witcher2, which was pretty darn cool, Dragon Age 2 was rather "medium" in my opinion but also done well. Skyrim's ratings will suffer especially because of the shoty UI, and that's not me being a negative asshole, that sadly will be a fact. I would put my money on Witcher 2, but let's see if bethesta gives us some patches.

Richter Belmount

11-12-2011, 08:16 PM

Whose todd howard? is he related to moe howard?

gepeto

11-12-2011, 11:08 PM

I would put my money on Witcher 2, but let's see if bethesta gives us some patches.

I have been following witcher 2 for the pc it looks awesome. How do you think it will translate to the 360 or ps3?

Leo_A

11-12-2011, 11:49 PM

Is there a 100% list of every quest in Oblivion? I couldn't locate one as of several years ago.

Want to finish up my game and make sure I did every quest (And perhaps do a second save to do any that I'm unable to now complete due to deaths and such).

Richter Belmount

11-13-2011, 02:14 AM

Im impressed by that picture fxmecenary , mountain dew throwback

Ludwig

11-13-2011, 02:50 AM

I have been following witcher 2 for the pc it looks awesome. How do you think it will translate to the 360 or ps3?
Nobody knows, but they obviously take their time and CD Project generally are nice people that care. Witcher 2 is a good example how something can look when your optimize with only the PC in mind, but it proven itself to be a beauty even with some options turned down, so it still should look good on a console, a little less up to date maybe. Witcher 2 also had a view patches by now and it matured, they also take their time with porting it to the consoles, so i'm pretty sure that it should be a good experience, but we will see that early next year.

Is there a 100% list of every quest in Oblivion? I couldn't locate one as of several years ago.

Painstakingly compiled over years by the community:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Quests

WCP

11-15-2011, 02:18 AM

I rented Skyrim on Xbox 360 (will buy it later on PC after a couple of patches), and let me say that this game is absolutely magnificent! I mean, sometimes I just stop and admire the scenery. Truly one of the most beautiful games I have ever seen. Easily one of the most technologically impressive games, considering how good the graphics look with such a huge, intricate game world.

I've only been playing about 3 or 4 hours, but it seems like another Bethesda Studios masterpiece.

G-Boobie

11-19-2011, 10:40 AM

To the surprise of no one, it's fantastic.

Something about the setting of Skyrim is a little depressing, though. I've put about four hours in, and I was having a blast, but it was getting me down a little bit. I never had that problem in Morrowind or Oblivion. Must be the beard dirt.

heybtbm

11-19-2011, 07:20 PM

misfits859

11-20-2011, 08:12 AM

I'm now 35 hours in and I've only completed 8 quests and killed 3 dragons. I'm taking my time.

What usually happens is that I'll be on a quest en route to some destination when I see ancient-looking ruins, an interesting cave or a bandit fortress...and I get sidetracked. That's the defining feature of Bethesda RPG's IMO and why I've loved every one.

The in-game books are excellent as well. I've probably spent 6 hours already reading every book I find. Even though I try to play it straight, I've be stealing books by the cartload. Seriously, I've stolen 100+ books. If it's one I don't have yet...bam...it's mine (and hope no one is looking).

I believe I just turned 60 hours...that's more than all the other games I've played combined this year. And I'm grabbing the books too; I have a cupboard in my house I'm storing them in. Will do the reading later. If you haven't started the Companion quests yet, then I would recommend them. There a really cool perk you pick up early on. Fun, fun, fun game.

SpaceHarrier

11-20-2011, 09:55 PM

I don't have a PS3/360 but I believe this will be the game to finally sway me. I have watched over 8 hours of youtube walkthroughs so far, skipping the dungeons and most of the talky stuff, just admiring the view while the uploader wanders the wilderness. Reminds me of how I felt first time on the field in Ocarina of Time or during the entirety of Shadow of the Colossus.

Of course, actually playing it might be a bit different.. but heck even (most) the glitches in this game are entertaining.

Ludwig

11-21-2011, 08:16 AM

I'm bored with it after just shy of 40h, playing minecraft again, thinking about going back to Oblivion.
:help:

Leo_A

11-21-2011, 09:02 AM

I'm bored with it after just shy of 40h, playing minecraft again, thinking about going back to Oblivion.
:help:

My advice is take a break. After putting 10 hours or so into Oblivion, I'd start to feel bored, start letting nagging things start to suck the fun out of the game for me, etc. But take a break for 6 months and it's all good again for spending another 10 hours with it over the span of a few days with it feeling fresh and fun again.

Of course, I've now owned it for 5 years and I've yet to finish it (Still have some side quest left to do and virtually all of the main quest and Shivering Isles), but I've felt like that was the best way for me to enjoy it.

And thanks to the save system and the quest logs, you don't have to worry about figuring out what you've done or what you need to do. It's easy to get right up to speed again after coming back to it after a long absence.

Ludwig

11-21-2011, 12:07 PM

That's indeed a nice feature, Skyrim is full of them actually. 40h within 10 days isn't so much, especially when considering that i didn't had anything else to do; i played both, Fallout and Oblivion much more than Skyrim. Not quite sure why, especially as i can only partially blame it on the UI and graphics, but it's a solid game for most parts. Well, i leave it for now, it will be there when i feel like it.

By the way: Skyrim got the same Metascore as Portal2. I know many agree, but i have mixed feeling towards this.

Malon_Forever

11-22-2011, 12:01 AM

From what I've played, Skyrim is much better then Oblivion, but in many small and minor ways.

Trumpman

11-24-2011, 10:07 AM

Skyrim is awesome. I only wish I'd have had more time to play it thus far. I love Bethesda's games, and like the guys at Giant Bomb said, this seems to be the game where they've finally perfected their craft. I've only seen two cities —*it took me an HOUR to get to the second one — and I still have more quests than I can count. (There are nine cities in total...how could anyone ever finish this game?) I'm one of those people who never actually completed the main quest in Oblivion but still loved it, and it seems like I may be heading in that direction again in Skyrim, although I've heard good things about Skyrim's main quest.

The only bad thing is that I have to play on 360. My PC cannot handle Skyrim and I can't afford a new one right now. It's too bad because the mods for Bethesda games are just as good as the games themselves.

YoshiM

11-25-2011, 12:36 AM

Ludwig

11-25-2011, 07:31 AM

snip

I play it on ultra on my old socksprok too, and mine is even a little worse than yours, but mildly OCed, but i also play in a higher resolution. If you have issues turn down the antialiasing a little.

People give it to much credit, especially in terms of looks. Yes it's a good look, like WoW or Starcraft2 still looks good, it's just nicely done, but still old, it's a symbol for wasted potential. If i wouldn't know better, i would say they just updated their Gamebryo a little and called it done.

If people would finally stop optimizing everything for age-old consoles, everything would look a lot nicer by now. What happened to the "let's make it a good as we can" thought? As a PC gamer i'm very frustrated by now.

NayusDante

12-04-2011, 08:51 AM

Out of curiosity-how much of a beasty PC does one need to run this decently? I recently downloaded Oblivion and when it does a hardware scan it puts it to the lowest settings for my Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz system with 3GB of RAM and an ATI Radeon HD5700 series card with 700MHz and a gig of RAM running Vista (hush-it works). Bump it up to my LCD's native resolution (1440x900) with halfway decent texturing and it's chugging. Then I fire up Crysis and that thing runs smooth as butter with all the settings on high.

With that in mind, do I need something with more oomph or do I have to sacrifice a chicken over my keyboard to get Skyrim to run decent or would the console be the way to go?

Something's definitely wrong there, you should be able to max out Oblivion at 1440x900 on that hardware. I played it on a Core 2 Duo 2.4 with 2Gb DDR2 and a Radeon 4850. Update your Catalyst driver...

Skyrim is on my Christmas list. I've been replaying Oblivion off and on, and it's starting to feel a little archaic. As many times as I've played it, though, I still find new stuff to do. Makes me look forward to actually playing Skyrim more and more...

Gamevet

12-04-2011, 11:17 AM

Something's definitely wrong there, you should be able to max out Oblivion at 1440x900 on that hardware. I played it on a Core 2 Duo 2.4 with 2Gb DDR2 and a Radeon 4850. Update your Catalyst driver...

Skyrim is on my Christmas list. I've been replaying Oblivion off and on, and it's starting to feel a little archaic. As many times as I've played it, though, I still find new stuff to do. Makes me look forward to actually playing Skyrim more and more...

Yeah, I'm guessing it's the RAM. 3gig sounds like an odd number for DDR2 and it's most like not running in dual-channel, because he's missing a stick of RAM. I'd pull out one of those 1 gig memory sticks to see if the game runs smoother. He has to make sure he's keeping the other 2 gig paired.

I ran Oblivion with a Dual-Core Pentium E6300 (2.83 GHZ), 8 gigs of DDR2 RAM and a GTS 250 with 512MB.

G-Boobie

12-04-2011, 02:42 PM

Out of curiosity-how much of a beasty PC does one need to run this decently? I recently downloaded Oblivion and when it does a hardware scan it puts it to the lowest settings for my Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz system with 3GB of RAM and an ATI Radeon HD5700 series card with 700MHz and a gig of RAM running Vista (hush-it works). Bump it up to my LCD's native resolution (1440x900) with halfway decent texturing and it's chugging. Then I fire up Crysis and that thing runs smooth as butter with all the settings on high.

With that in mind, do I need something with more oomph or do I have to sacrifice a chicken over my keyboard to get Skyrim to run decent or would the console be the way to go?

I think you might be surprised: Skyrim is pretty well optimized, whereas Oblivion was most certainly not.

It's great on 360 though: you're not losing anything playing it there

Peonpiate

12-04-2011, 03:48 PM

I have it on PC and i can tell it is a great game just as Morrowind was. But I havnt played more than two hours so far...Reason being is the controls. You can remap them, but if you do it breaks the game. Changing a button such as F [i believe] will screw the game over - its the holy grail in Skyrim. You lose your ability to use favorites that way since the game wont offer you a way to re-re-map keys that do more than 1 thing in the game. I hope they fix that issue, is ridiculous to release a PC game with a issue like that.

Im glad Bethseda is making money though from their console version sales though, they deserve it since they make good rpg games [PC will be good in a few much needed patches]. In the future I hope they dont forget their PC players like they did this time, PC made them afterall.

-edit, spoke to soon. The PC release has a patch out now for the controls...ESC key now works for exiting windows among other key fixes. Its much needed but still shows how little testing they put into it.

G-Boobie

12-04-2011, 03:53 PM

I have it on PC and i can tell it is a great game just as Morrowind was. But I havnt played more than two hours so far...Reason being is the controls. You can remap them, but if you do it breaks the game. Changing a button such as F [i believe] will screw the game over - its the holy grail in Skyrim. You lose your ability to use favorites that way since the game wont offer you a way to re-re-map keys that do more than 1 thing in the game. I hope they fix that issue, is ridiculous to release a PC game with a issue like that.

Im glad Bethseda is making money though from their console version sales though, they deserve it since they make good rpg games [PC will be good in a few much needed patches]. In the future I hope they dont forget their PC players like they did this time, PC made them afterall.

-edit, spoke to soon. THe PC release has a patch out now for the controls...ESC key now works for exiting windows among other key fixes. Its much needed but still shows how little testing they put into it.

Also, and this certainly doesn't excuse their shady PC control scheme, but the MODS THEY ARE A COMING.

misfits859

12-04-2011, 04:40 PM

Just turned 130 hours played and still having a great time. Just finished the second quest in the Thieves Guild questline so I'll be foolin' around in the sewers for awhile. I've got my light armor/one handed weapon/block skills maxed out and now I'm focusing on sneaking/pickpocket. Great game.

Funny moment this morning; I was letting a giant slap me around a bit to finish off my block skill when a bear jumped in and attacked me. A moment later a dragon flew in, landed and blasted all three of us with fire.

Richter Belmount

12-30-2011, 02:08 AM

i doubt im the first to mention but the only thing i dislike is the lack of classes.

heybtbm

12-30-2011, 10:59 AM

i doubt im the first to mention but the only thing i dislike is the lack of classes.

What you do in Skyrim defines who you are. Your "class" is a culmination of the skills you've leveled up by using them throughout the game. I can't think of anything more engaging or true to the spirit of a role playing game.

Predefined classes are so limiting and would've wrecked the game IMO. Although I have ~150 hours sunk into Oblivion, I still lament being forced to pick all my class skills in the first few minutes of the game (when I was clueless to what each one actually did). Skyrim's system is perfect in that you're never "locked" into a particular path. This is essential as your character evolves. I used destruction magic a lot in the first 50 hours or so. As the game went on it just wasn't working on high level enemies so I ended up going all sneak/archery for the last 100 hours or so. Oblivion would've made me choose up front and then I'd be stuck with those skills (and never be able to level up). Screw that. I want the freedom to level up whatever skills are useful at that time.

Emuaust

12-30-2011, 02:29 PM

What you do in Skyrim defines who you are. Your "class" is a culmination of the skills you've leveled up by using them throughout the game. I can't think of anything more engaging or true to the spirit of a role playing game.

Predefined classes are so limiting and would've wrecked the game IMO. Although I have ~150 hours sunk into Oblivion, I still lament being forced to pick all my class skills in the first few minutes of the game (when I was clueless to what each one actually did). Skyrim's system is perfect in that you're never "locked" into a particular path. This is essential as your character evolves. I used destruction magic a lot in the first 50 hours or so. As the game went on it just wasn't working on high level enemies so I ended up going all sneak/archery for the last 100 hours or so. Oblivion would've made me choose up front and then I'd be stuck with those skills (and never be able to level up). Screw that. I want the freedom to level up whatever skills are useful at that time.

This.

Im not sure if its the fact I have a short attention span or limited time for gaming these days but IMO Oblivion pretty much forces you to play the game through again, re-picking your skills at the start of the game to suit what you may need later on. Skyrim on the other hand you can play through once and feel like you haven't missed anything.

Skyrim is A+ and dependent on its DLC might go down as one of my favorite games of all time.

calthaer

12-03-2025, 10:09 AM

Man, I just installed Morrowind last night and put in a bunch of patches to play. Never managed to finish it.

Maybe some day I'll pick up Oblivion, Skyrim, and the next five sequels in a comprehensive collection that may or may not work on my holographic PC, and will manage to play them all.

Weird to read this post of mine from almost 15 years ago. I completed Morrowind at the time, and have since tried Oblivion with mods. Mods must have broken it and I couldn't finish the game.

I did finish Skyrim, probably around 5 years ago? I can't recall...maybe it was 2019, or maybe during 2021? What a game. It's still unmatched, even today. I installed it again this past week and dove back in - it continues to be the most amazing RPG experience I've ever seen.

Elex is pretty fun, and pretty good - and maybe manages to come a little close. But Skyrim is still amazing.

I got Starfield free with a video card but I've never installed it. Heard a lot of bad press. It's hard to believe that open-world RPGs peaked 15 years ago and hasn't been surpassed since. Really been enjoying getting back into Skyrim for my 2nd run but wish that Elder Scrolls VI were here already.