BS Achievements

[Gapporin]

This isn't a thread for hard, out-of-reach achievements that take some work and elbow grease to complete. Nope, I'm talking about completely asinine achievements that are majorly flawed in some sort of manner. Case in point:

I was just playing BIT.TRIP BEAT on Steam (which is a really good game, BTW), and I noticed that one of the achievements listed is to "beat a level using the Razer Sixense controller". So, not only do you have to buy a whole new controller to get one achievement, get this -- the controller isn't even out yet! So, if you're an achievement completist (which, thank God, I'm not), you're going to have that one achievement sitting unearned for an indefinite amount of time. I've read on the Steam forums where people are staying away from this game for that exact reason.

So, what BS achievements have you found recently?

[Kitsune Sniper]

Garry's Mod "One year of playtime" achievement.

You HAVE to have the game running for 365 days of playtime. :P

[lookfun78]

Magic the gathering duel of the plains walker has this Spellslinger: Defeat someone who has earned the Spellslinger achievement and mega man 10 has this Mr. Perfect: Clear the game without getting damaged. The last one is more of an almost impossible one due to the fact that most will never get this because it is hard to not take any damage in the game.

[Porksta]

There was some game, Bullet Witch I believe. Firstly, the game sucks hard and you have to beat it once to unlock the hardest difficulty. Secondly, to get this achievement you have to beat this shitty game on this hardest difficulty. Your reward? 1 achievement point.

Then there is a Katamari game for the 360 where you must buy DLC to get the full 1000.

[pseudonym]

There was some game, Bullet Witch I believe. Firstly, the game sucks hard and you have to beat it once to unlock the hardest difficulty. Secondly, to get this achievement you have to beat this shitty game on this hardest difficulty. Your reward? 1 achievement point.

I like Bullet Witch for the most part, but yeah, that was BS.

[lookfun78]

I forgot to add any online achievement due to the fact that some games you buy now will have no one online playing so how would you ever get them knowing this?

[SpaceHarrier]

mega man 10 has this Mr. Perfect: Clear the game without getting damaged. The last one is more of an almost impossible one due to the fact that most will never get this because it is hard to not take any damage in the game.

It's hard if you make it hard. You can play on Easy difficulty and save after every level (even Wily stages, I believe). If you get hit, just reload your save. To me, Mega Man 9 was the ridiculous one:

04 Bust a Move: Don't miss with the mega buster and clear the game.
16 Peacekeeper: Clear the game by defeating the fewest number of enemies possible.
19. Gamer's Day: Clear the game 5 times in 1 day.
23. Truly Hardcore!: Clear the game for the 30th time.

MM 9 also has the Mr. Perfect and yes, that one IS ridiculous by default.

To me though, alot of these Trophies or achievements are gimmies, which I also find kinda dumb. Like God of War III's "oh my god you killed something" type of Trophies you get throughout the game. Shouldn't an award mostly merit something extra or substantial that you performed along the way?

[Porksta]

There is a Half Life 2 gnome achievement you can get. You have to carry a gnome through the whole game.

[Kitsune Sniper]

To me though, alot of these Trophies or achievements are gimmies, which I also find kinda dumb. Like God of War III's "oh my god you killed something" type of Trophies you get throughout the game. Shouldn't an award mostly merit something extra or substantial that you performed along the way?

Perhaps, but it IS one way of showing just how far along you are in the game, or that you didn't just load a random save game and clear the game without doing everything else. :P

[E Nice]

There was some game, Bullet Witch I believe. Firstly, the game sucks hard and you have to beat it once to unlock the hardest difficulty. Secondly, to get this achievement you have to beat this shitty game on this hardest difficulty. Your reward? 1 achievement point.

I disagree. I think this was one achievement that stood out from the pack. If you managed to get it, it would say you went out of your way to beat the game just because you can, not for the achievement points.

A BS achievement, there are some for Shadowrun. The trickest one was something about killing a player playing on another platform version of the game x many times. Shadowrun for PC and 360 are cross compatible. Shadowrun for PC required Xbox Live to play online with and that wasn't a success. Gamer pool was limited on release already, probably moreso now.

[Leo_A]

Ones like in Harm's Way for just selecting the credits to watch from a menu were pretty disappointing to me.

The BS ones for me are online achievements that require huge investments in time (Well over 50+ hours if we're talking about Codemasters racers like Grid and F1 2010, where as the rest for the offline modes are more than reasonable in a fraction of the time), 0 point achievements, and achievements that are tied to online aspects like Gotham TV (PGR3) that aren't kept online and available for the life of Xbox Live support on the 360.

After putting in 15 hours into the online mode of Grid and realizing I was only 10% of the way towards getting the final achievement, I decided to call that game complete even though I had every other achievement.

There are no shortage of achievements now that are impossible to get thanks to things like EA Locker for NASCAR 09 having been taken offline and Gotham TV for PGR3. And sadly, some achievements were always unachievable from day 1 (Some XBLA achievements come to mind, although I can't remember specifics off hand). And in the case of at least Grid, one achievement was unachievable when the game shipped, was fixed in the first patch, and then broken again in the last patch. So now it's unaccessible unless you get clever and edit the contents of your hard drive to remove the second patch since Codemasters has no intentions of ever fixing it again.

The ones that can't be achieved now or never could be achieved are the real BS achievements.

[The 1 2 P]

There was some game, Bullet Witch I believe. Firstly, the game sucks hard and you have to beat it once to unlock the hardest difficulty. Secondly, to get this achievement you have to beat this shitty game on this hardest difficulty. Your reward? 1 achievement point.


If you want to get technical--you had to beat "hard" mode to unlock "chaos" mode and beating "chaos" mode unlocked "hell" mode, which was worth the already mentioned 1 point. So yeah it was bullshit, especially since achievements weren't stackable and after beating the game on normal I had to go back and beat it on easy to get that achievement.


0 point achievements

I actually like some of those, like the ones in TMNT: Arcade(fall down a manhole 3 times), F.E.A.R.(kill 5 rats or birds) and Split Second(die trying to follow someone thru a shortcut they triggered).

As for your PGR3 example, what I hate is when there are online achievements for games that will have very short online communities, such as F.E.A.R.(a game in which half of it's achievemnets are for online multiplayer) and Perfect Dark(you'd be hard pressed to find games where more than one other person is playing regardless of what time of day you make your attempt).

[Leo_A]

In a way, I guess I do sort of like 0 point achievements. I took my sweet time getting 1000 achievement points in Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway. By the time I went into online multiplayer (Which had several achievements that were all worth 0 points), no one was playing any longer.

So it provides a way to still link achievements with online modes, but allows you to future proof your game a bit so that at least a full 1000 points remains possible in the future when your community has moved on or servers go down.

[kupomogli]

While I love Yakuza 3, there is one trophy that is bs. Mini-game Master.

You need to get a near perfect score on all mini games for all difficulties; Batting cages, bowling, golf, karaoke, Boxcelios, pool, and darts, get every item possible when fishing or using the UFO catcher, and need to get a certain amount of winnings or win a certain amount in a single round in all gambling games. I only have extra hard batting cages, one Japanese gambling game, UFO catcher, bowling, and pool to get before I get the Mini-game Master trophy.

The batting cages extra hard mode is the most difficult. You can only miss two out of 20 balls, the numbers are spaced out so you're unable to hit two at once, and you have no target on screen so you have to remember where the target is located. I think once I get to this one to make it a little easier I'll use a piece of tape as the target location and hope that works, although when changing the direction you're aiming towards, I think the camera moves more than the target location so I don't think the piece of tape will work.

[Zing]

I think the winner for worst achievement to date is the one in Alan Wake that awards you for simply watching the in-game Verizon commercial.

[sebastiankirchoff]

Beating RE5 on the hardest difficulty mode. Trust me, no matter how hard you play or how much elbow grease you put into it, it's impossible to beat by yourself. Even with body armor and the best weapons w/unlimited ammunition, enemies can still kill you in one or two hits. And of course, Sheva is a dumb bitch that gets killed easily.

The only way you could possibly beat this mode is if you are an absolute expert of the game (like I am) and have a friend who is also an expert. Then, you would have to take baby steps and make sure you kill all enemies way before they can even get close to you. The control scheme is also pretty bad for a shooter game, so you would have to predict when enemies and bosses throw shit at you, so you have plenty of time to dodge it.

But for BS achievements, the gnome one in HL2 is probably the worst.

[Kitsune Sniper]

But for BS achievements, the gnome one in HL2 is probably the worst.

Oh, the Left 4 Dead 2 one can be just as bad, even if it doesn't take that long.

[Famidrive-16]

and Perfect Dark(you'd be hard pressed to find games where more than one other person is playing regardless of what time of day you make your attempt).

Actually, none of the PD achievements require online. You can get them all offline.

[The 1 2 P]

I think the winner for worst achievement to date is the one in Alan Wake that awards you for simply watching the in-game Verizon commercial.

There is no achievement for that. You get an achievement for finding and turning on all of the tv's in the game but they show an actual tv show and you don't even have to watch them. You also get an achievement for turning on the first tv but you also don't have to watch it.


Actually, none of the PD achievements require online. You can get them all offline.

I just checked the list and it appears that this is true. I thought the ones were you had to play each of the multiplayer game types were online only but you can actually play them against bots or in split screen.

[badinsults]

I was playing some old Tiger Woods game, and there were achievements for doing online things, such as capturing a photo and putting it on an in-game character. The only problem? EA's servers no longer support the game.

[maxlords]

I think the biggest BS is the whole concept of achievements. I think they're absolutely silly.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Sounds about right to me.

[Holger Czukay]

I was playing some old Tiger Woods game, and there were achievements for doing online things, such as capturing a photo and putting it on an in-game character. The only problem? EA's servers no longer support the game.

Oh ho ho, plenty of those. Especially EA games, and old 2K sports titles.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=235354

My favorite BS achievements? How about Quake 4, where you have to be ranked #1 on the world leaderboard? Or Rayman Raving Rabbids, "GREATEST RAYMAN EVER" which requires you to get a perfect score on every single minigame.

I can think of a few like Gapporin's, like DJ Hero 2 "play a song with 2 turntables and 1 microphone connected" or the full band achievements in....every single music game with a full band.

[kupomogli]

like DJ Hero 2 "play a song with 2 turntables and 1 microphone connected" or the full band achievements in....every single music game with a full band.

Fuck Activision(also BIT.TRIP BEAT.) Required to have multiple devices connected is a truly bs achievement.

[heybtbm]

There is a Half Life 2 gnome achievement you can get. You have to carry a gnome through the whole game.


But for BS achievements, the gnome one in HL2 is probably the worst.

I have that achievement. It got a little annoying while driving the car, but it's much easier than a few others from The Orange Box. To me that's the perfect kind of achievement...a little reward for something stupid that you wouldn't normally do in the game.

[The 1 2 P]

I think the biggest BS is the whole concept of achievements. I think they're absolutely silly.

If you grew up as a kid in the 80's or early to mid 90's and played arcade games against real people at an actual arcade(which don't really exist in the US anymore outside of a few dedicated places) then you would understand achievements and gamerscore perfectly. This is also why online gaming such as XBL is so popular--it's one of the few remaining ways to play against random strangers head to head. And the achievements themselves serve as the new method of high scores or bragging rights.

Not everyone likes them(and thats fine if you don't) but to dismiss them as bullshit just because you don't get down with them is silly in itself. They show small personal accomplishments and provide developers a way to add replay value to their games. However, as the thread title entails, some of that replay value is indeed bullshit.

[Gameguy]

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[maxlords]

If you grew up as a kid in the 80's or early to mid 90's and played arcade games against real people at an actual arcade(which don't really exist in the US anymore outside of a few dedicated places) then you would understand achievements and gamerscore perfectly. This is also why online gaming such as XBL is so popular--it's one of the few remaining ways to play against random strangers head to head. And the achievements themselves serve as the new method of high scores or bragging rights.

Not everyone likes them(and thats fine if you don't) but to dismiss them as bullshit just because you don't get down with them is silly in itself. They show small personal accomplishments and provide developers a way to add replay value to their games. However, as the thread title entails, some of that replay value is indeed bullshit.

I'm 33. :) And I still think they're bullshit. And what some think of as "replay value" I think of as artificially extending a game that you should already be done with. It's the same as adding items to collect to unlock some random piece of concept art that no one cares about. As for a sense of accomplishment....well...if you get that from earning an achievement in a game....more power to ya I guess. I also don't game online at all and don't enjoy online gaming.

[The 1 2 P]

I see your point but thats not how I(and many others) view them. They were such a deciding factor in many people's multiplatform game release purchases(for those that had both a 360 and PS3) that Sony decided to copy the idea and name them trophies. Like I said before not everyone likes them but I think they were one of the best things to come from this generation. Although not all achievements are good/great(hence the thread title) I'd much rather have them then not have them.

[heybtbm]

I'm 33. :) And I still think they're bullshit. And what some think of as "replay value" I think of as artificially extending a game that you should already be done with. It's the same as adding items to collect to unlock some random piece of concept art that no one cares about. As for a sense of accomplishment....well...if you get that from earning an achievement in a game....more power to ya I guess. I also don't game online at all and don't enjoy online gaming.

What do you like about playing games? I have no interest in starting an argument so don't take that the wrong way. I just find your statement interesting. I'm curious as to what you get out of games. According to your post, you:

1.) Don't like playing games with other people
2.) Don't get a sense of accomplishment by doing anything in-game (unlocking artwork, ranking up to level 99, beating on highest difficulty, etc.).
3.) Believe that people should stop playing a game at some point because they "should already be done with" it.

Back in the 80's after I beat Super Mario Bros. I used to run through each level and see how high I could get my score. Last gen. I beat RE4 on "hard" difficulty because I wanted to challenge myself. People have been doing things like this since video games began. Now days when you do it your games gives you a little acknowledgment called an achievement. Not sure how that suddenly became "bullshit".

[Zthun]

The only achievements I have a problem with are achievements that are literally impossible to get regardless of skill level.

I can't play every game the first few days it comes out, so when a company shuts down servers, making it literally impossible (without cheating) to get the achievements online, then yeah, that sucks.

[maxlords]

What do you like about playing games? I have no interest in starting an argument so don't take that the wrong way. I just find your statement interesting. I'm curious as to what you get out of games. According to your post, you:

1.) Don't like playing games with other people
2.) Don't get a sense of accomplishment by doing anything in-game (unlocking artwork, ranking up to level 99, beating on highest difficulty, etc.).
3.) Believe that people should stop playing a game at some point because they "should already be done with" it.

Back in the 80's after I beat Super Mario Bros. I used to run through each level and see how high I could get my score. Last gen. I beat RE4 on "hard" difficulty because I wanted to challenge myself. People have been doing things like this since video games began. Now days when you do it your games gives you a little acknowledgment called an achievement. Not sure how that suddenly became "bullshit".

I play mostly story-based single player games (RPGs, horror games, etc). I enjoy the stories, the characters, etc. I've never played for score. Pretty much all my favorite games are heavily story based. Once I've finished a game, I rarely go back to it, but I do keep the ones around I've enjoyed. I will go back to them...but usually years later after I've forgotten some or most of the storyline and can 'rediscover' it.

I also play a lot of shmups because I like the skill involved...but I don't challenge myself to scores or anything...just to trying to survive at all. But I don't gain a sense of accomplishment from it...it's just an enjoyable diversion. They're fun....same as platformers...something to unwind with.

I play a fair number or FPSs as well. Most of em have single player storylines, which helps but I play them to let off frustration and whatnot. When I feel like killing something...I play an FPS :)

Achievements hold absolutely NO interest for me at all. I think they're beyond silly. A little message pops up distracting you from your immersion in the game (yes, I know you can turn this off on the Xbox...and I have) and tells you you did something that someone else decided was an "achievement". Big deal. Nor do I like breaking from the story and immersion of a game to collect flags or coins or whatever it is so that I can get an achievement (I call it Rare syndrome...I swear they're the kings of collect crap games). I don't brag about the stuff I've done in games either.....I'm a pretty damned solitary player.

Lastly, I don't like how achievement lists (which I've accidentally viewed several times) give away key things about the game so you already know what's going to happen. I know this is minor and not all games do this but it drives me insane.

I just want to be sucked into a game entirely.....forget the world around me, play the game, enjoy the story and characters, or the killing or just the world I've entered, and get my gaming fix.

It's the same thing that happens to me when I read or watch TV or movies. I'll literally become COMPLETELY engulfed by the story and not see or hear anything around me aside from the show or story. With books, I'll tune out all sound and 'see' the story as I read. With comics....it's already there visually so it's more 'hearing' the story in my head. For movies, everything in the room except for the screen literally vanishes from my vision to the point where when something does distract me, I actually get surprised. Games do the same thing for me. I become totally absorbed while I play.

[retroman]

i hate the bullshit ones you get just for turning on the game..joke...for real though..the ones you get for doing almost nothing in a game has got to stop...make us earn it.

[Robust]

While I love Yakuza 3, there is one trophy that is bs. Mini-game Master.

You need to get a near perfect score on all mini games for all difficulties; Batting cages, bowling, golf, karaoke, Boxcelios, pool, and darts, get every item possible when fishing or using the UFO catcher, and need to get a certain amount of winnings or win a certain amount in a single round in all gambling games. I only have extra hard batting cages, one Japanese gambling game, UFO catcher, bowling, and pool to get before I get the Mini-game Master trophy.

The batting cages extra hard mode is the most difficult. You can only miss two out of 20 balls, the numbers are spaced out so you're unable to hit two at once, and you have no target on screen so you have to remember where the target is located. I think once I get to this one to make it a little easier I'll use a piece of tape as the target location and hope that works, although when changing the direction you're aiming towards, I think the camera moves more than the target location so I don't think the piece of tape will work.

Cool story bro. Perhaps you should try thinking before you write next time. The "I'm gonna use tape next time, actually the tape won't work so I'm not gonna use tape next time" part was comedy gold.

Keep up the good work!

[Robust]

I'm 33. :) And I still think they're bullshit. And what some think of as "replay value" I think of as artificially extending a game that you should already be done with. It's the same as adding items to collect to unlock some random piece of concept art that no one cares about. As for a sense of accomplishment....well...if you get that from earning an achievement in a game....more power to ya I guess. I also don't game online at all and don't enjoy online gaming.

Amen. Real gamer talk.

[Melf]

I'm 33. :) And I still think they're bullshit. And what some think of as "replay value" I think of as artificially extending a game that you should already be done with. It's the same as adding items to collect to unlock some random piece of concept art that no one cares about. As for a sense of accomplishment....well...if you get that from earning an achievement in a game....more power to ya I guess. I also don't game online at all and don't enjoy online gaming.

I think everyone determines when they're done with a game on an individual level, so your reasoning is purely subjective. Many people enjoy opening everything available in a game, just as people used to enjoy breaking an arcade game by completing it with the highest score possible or unlocking all secret paths and items. There's nothing "artificial" about it. Games are meant to be enjoyed, and each player determines how much enjoyment is enough. By your logic, one should never touch a game again after it's beaten.

[heybtbm]

I play mostly...

To each their own I guess. As long as you're still having fun...which it sounds like you are. That is the point after all.

[kupomogli]

Cool story bro. Perhaps you should try thinking before you write next time. The "I'm gonna use tape next time, actually the tape won't work so I'm not gonna use tape next time" part was comedy gold.

Keep up the good work!


I'll use a piece of tape as the target location and hope that works, although when changing the direction you're aiming towards, I think the camera moves more than the target location so I don't think the piece of tape will work.

I'm going to try and use a piece of tape as a target indicator. I never said I'm not going to use the tape, just that I don't think it would work. Learn how to read a bit better, douchebag.

[misfits859]

Ah! Good riddance to the douchebag!

[The 1 2 P]

Ah! Good riddance to the douchebag!

They're still here. I'm pretty sure that was someone's second account used just for post like those.

[Dobie]

Darn, too late to this thread, the flame war already started. But I'll be OVER HERE.... away from the flames... and add another BS set of achievements in the original GRAW. There's several achievements in that game that are complete garbage. Plus, they do one of my major pet peeves, and have weird point values--7, 13, 8... gimme 5 point increments or GTFO.

Three of these achievements are for being at the top of the leaderboards--not tops in a single game, but top IN THE WORLD. Also, there's achievements for hosting 1000 games. Good luck with that. Then there's the one for playing 8 hours of multiplayer straight. God forbid you have to get up to pee, let alone find enough people to play and keep your streak alive. Then, the cous de "graw" if you will, a viral achievement. For a game that nobody plays online anymore. Awesome.

[megasdkirby]

Rather than creating a new, similar topic, I decided to revive this one instead.

Recently, I've been playing alot of Vita and PS3 games and been noticing a very disturbing trend:

-Online Trophies ONLY
-Asinine Trophies that, not only test my patience, but my sanity
-ADHOC or multiplayer trophies

Yes, these issues have already been stated before, in other posts. But it still boggles me that, to this day, companies still require gamers to go online to get certain trophies, when most of the times there is NO ONE playing online, and if there are people online, finding someone that actually wants to help out.

One of my recent endeavors was Pixel Junk Shooter Ultimate on the Vita/PS4. I really enjoyed the game, and after finishing the game, I noticed that I was only a few trophies away to get the last platinum trophy. Sadly, these were only obtainable through online play. I'm also very intrapersonal, so I don't like playing online, even with others I know or are friends with...at least competitive type games. I have no problem with cooperative games, but I digress.

Anyway, the trophies didn't seem that hard at first...one to buy something from the shop, another for my first win, etc. But then there were TWO that seriously pissed me off:

-You Are A Sad, Strange Little Man And You Have My Pity, and

-Smoke Me A Kipper, I'll Be Back For Breakfast

The first one was to basically win a perfect game, making sure the oponents score is 0. I thought this was hard, but thankfully I found someone that seemed to be new to the game and I managed to get this one. But I still think it was a fluke. However, the second trophy was a pure bitch: I had to win five games IN A ROW, without turning off the VITA or resetting. Supposedly, no sleep mode either, but I wasn't sure. I managed to get a few wins in...2-3 in a row, but then I would always have my ass served by a veteran player. I then began choosing my oponents: if it was something other than a newbie, I would cancel the game before actually entering and playing. However, this was hard because not many were playing the game at a given time, so I had no choice but to ultimately give up at that time.

Then Sony released a patch that changed the requirements from "five in a row" to "win five battles". Already having three wins in my local game, I decided to give it a go. After three online plays, the trophy FINALLY appeared, as well as the platinum trophy. I was happy, because otherwise there would have been no way for me to get that game, even if using the published exploit found online (I dont have a PS4).

Still, things like this anger me because what if the requirements are too taxing? What if the online servers no longer work? Then we are out of luck. I'm not a trophy/achievement whore, but I do like going platinum if I think I am able to do it. If I know I can't then I let it go. But if I am close and I notice that the others are attainable, then why not? I will definitely go for it. I don't want to suffer in order to get certain trophies...recently, I was playing Muramasa Rebirth, and even though I loved the game, there is no way in hell I will play again in the hardest level, NOR will I play to finish the game in a certain time limit. I simply don't have the patience for that. Which is a shame, as I really enjoyed that game. But if a game will destroy my patience and wreak havoc on my sanity, no way I am going for it. Nor will I leave my console on for 100 hours just to get a stupid trophy. The companies aren't paying my electrical bills...I AM!

Another thing I can't stand are games that require that the other player play the game with you via adhoc mode, like the Michael Jackson game. No one around here has a Vita, and even though I own two Vita consoles, no way I am going to pick up another copy of the game just to get the trophies. I rather just skip those, hoping that one day Sony offers them via PS Plus services.

The ones that grind me the most are online trophies. Because even when I decide not to be a whiny, antisocial boob, there is NO ONE that plays the game. So I am fucked. Hard.

Fuck companies who create trophies like these.

[kupomogli]

I got that Mini Game Master trophy from Yakuza 3 and the platinum. I really only try for platinum from games I like, so I was playing DmC Devil May Cry and saw how easy it would have been to get SSS on all Nephilim stages after collecting everything. Did that, although one stage was ridiculously hard getting SSS rank. Although to be fair I forgot about using Devil Trigger for most of these.

So I get more than halfway through the remixed Son of Sparda mode which is a lot harder then I look at all the trophies I'm missing. Finish the game on Hell and Hell mode. Hell and Hell is Dante Must Die difficulty with remixed enemies so the game is much harder, and enemies have full health while the player dies in one hit. Now whenever you die, you still get to load at checkpoints, you still get to use items like the three yellow stars, so technically you get four hits per level, and you also get to use Devil Trigger and all your items. All of that should make it a bit more manageable, but the difficulty on some of these stages regardless, especially on Dante Must Die remixed difficulty. It's a bit ridiculous.

Twisted Metal has a lot of online trophies. Yes, the same Twisted Metal in which the online didn't work properly for over six months. There's also a bug in the game that if you've uploaded a vehicle customization on their website so you can use to drive around in the custom vehicle but you no longer have that save data, the game won't allow you to go online. Because the game checks your username when logging on, seeing you have the customization available but it's not on, it kicks you out saying server error. You can't go to the customization section of the game anymore. You're basically screwed. Not only can you not get the online trophies, you can't play online with your user name. You need to create a new user name or play on a friends that has no customizations saved to the database. The database that was shut down so you can no longer go on there and remove whatever customizations you added. Amazing game but developed like shit all around.

Missable trophies are pretty bs as well. I like Atelier Totori, basically the combat sucks, but the game is all about time management, so doing quests, alchemy, doing story events by visiting everyone everyday. There are too many missable events in this game though, and that's one of the biggest problems. You need to get all the endings for each character, meaning that only that character can have their special event unlocked. You need to then go back and unlock all their special events and get that ending. Then another ending where you unlock all the special events, have every single chim, and have over a certain amount of money at the end of the game. But then as mentioned there are a bunch of events that can be skipped within the middle of the story, basically screwing yourself out of getting those trophies, and I think those events have to be completed to get the best ending as well.

Just Cause 2 and The Saboteur have some pretty bs trophies as well. It's less bs when it comes to difficulty, it's bs because it's too time consuming. If you've played these games you'll know how large they are. On The Saboteur, you have to destroy every piece of enemy owned objects. In The Saboteur though, there are only 2000+ throughout the city. It's a lot and I think I'm around 60% through, sometimes going to the game and chipping away at them. In Just Cause, the world is several times larger and each facility/base/town has many enemy owned objects, so you have to travel to each one and find and destroy all the objects and collect all the upgrades. On The Saboteur they appear on the map so you know where they are. On Just Cause they don't, although there's a sort of detector like thing that goes from zero to five bars to let you know if you're near an upgrade. 0 bars none in range, one bar there's one in range, five bars you're very close and can see an indicator on your screen.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Something that's been popping up in Steam: Preorder achievements. You bought the game during beta or preordered? Then you get an achievement for that. Everyone who didn't... won't.

[frogofdeath]

http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/22/4354552/xbox-one-achievements-challenges-cross-game

These. Especially the ones that can be connected to achievements earned on the 360 or other games.

Also, preorder achievements are dumb, especially if it is just for buying the game.

[Gameguy]

Also, preorder achievements are dumb, especially if it is just for buying the game.

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[JSoup]

http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/22/4354552/xbox-one-achievements-challenges-cross-game

These. Especially the ones that can be connected to achievements earned on the 360 or other games.

Sorta an evolved form of legacy type rewards. Played Ratchet & Clank? Well, the second game gives you free stuff and a discount for having the save file handy.

[Rickstilwell1]

If you think about it, Goldeneye for Nintendo 64 sort of had achievements with the timed unlockable cheats. You could easily earn DK Mode then unlock all the other cheats by going to the cheat menu and entering all the button codes that were discovered later and revealed in Nintendo Power, or you could do the timed challenges over and over until you got each one right.