Nintendo super system arcade cabinet. Any info?

[kirbykirb]

I have the chance to pick one up for cheap, $300 in full working condition. Games are Super Mario World, F Zero and Super Tennis.

I'm curious though, since here is a typical cartridge for the system:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5130/smwsupersystemcabinet.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9350/supertennispcb.jpg
Super Tennis

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2716/fzeroxpcbrom.jpg


My main thought is, the super mario world and super tennis share the same PCB. That would mean the mask rom would be similar: therefore... by looking on the commercial (e.g. sold for home use) cartridge I've found out that they DON'T share the same PCB. This would mean the same mask rom and same layout but still different deployment....

Super Tennis: SHVC-1A0N-01 SNES PCB Commercial/Home use cart

http://www.snescentral.com/0/6/9/0690/SHVC-ST-0.jpg

Super Mario World Commercial/Home Cart

http://www.snescentral.com/0/0/0/0000/SNS-MW-0_(USA)_Front.jpg

Fzero X

http://www.snescentral.com/0/0/0/0001/SNS-FZ-0-v2-Front.jpg


But see now here's the weird part: Fzero and SMW both commercial offer save content and therefore share similar carts with Fzero being one revision newer...



So this makes me wonder on my idea of being able to modify the cart rom to display a different game. My main idea was to replace Super tennis and possibly F Zero to more popular first party games (perhaps super mario all stars/ + SMW) to have two more available positions for other games.


I would then also have to replace the little marquee's and side wrapping to something more popular... interesting though.

Why am I doing this? simple it'd be an amazing marketing tool if I can have it displa 7 games, 4 mario games, one kirby and f zero to keep things easy, as well as the chance of being able to differentiate games in an official SNES cabinet is cool and can be quite useful.

[kirbykirb]

Super tennis SNES size is 512kb.
Super Mario World is 512kb
FZero is 512kb.
(Amazing how much game can be stored in such small space)

Perfect so each eprom displayed there is 256kb each. They are eprom because I am 99% sure the sticker on there is covering the UV light window.

http://maws.mameworld.info/maws/pcbinfo/Gamelists%2526Bios/Bios/Nintendo-SuperSystem.txt

Heres an excellent web page that provided me some info, including identifying IC's and the corresponding eproms and other games that were available on the snes cabinet!

Seems to me there is a no limit if I assign the dip switches appropriately. Well, there is a limit but no commercial snes game would defeat it.

It's also interesting because it can support games that use specialized chips for graphics display like star ocean, and starfox. But I don't think I would have this displayed for numerous reasons, one being an RPG and that makes no sense in an arcade cabinet.

[kirbykirb]

Found another great site; this one with all the commercial releases of games and the eprom size. It is confirmed that super tennis, fzero and super mairo world use two 256kb roms (most likley to save cost from one single 512kb unit)

http://www.solvalou.com/subpage/arcade_roms/S/nss_smw

27C256 is the eprom chip; no idea about speed.

nss_actr
Act Raiser (Nintendo Super System)

nss_adam
The Addams Family (Nintendo Super System)

nss_aten
David Crane's Amazing Tennis (Nintendo Super System)

nss_con3
Contra 3: The Alien Wars (Nintendo Super System)

nss_lwep
Lethal Weapon (Nintendo Super System)

nss_ncaa
NCAA Basketball (Nintendo Super System)

nss_rob3
Robocop 3 (Nintendo Super System)

nss_skin
Skins Game (Nintendo Super System)

nss_ssoc
Super Soccer (Nintendo Super System)

nss_smw
Super Mario World (Nintendo Super System)

nss_fzer
F-Zero (Nintendo Super System)

nss_sten
Super Tennis (Nintendo Super System)

Are all the commercial released games for the NSS/Nintendo Supser system. The biggest ones use a 512kb eprom, and most smaller ones use 256 as stated above.

[kirbykirb]

Just added pics so you guys could know what I'm talking about:

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/647/nsss22.png

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8519/nsssmwcontroller.png

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5360/nsssmw.png

This is super mario world, instead of starting normally you just play out in zones.'


http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9291/nssf.jpg

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3460/ericandjeffscamera10110.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3378/nss.png
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6755/jammaboardandpcb.jpg

My goal is going to be simple; basically modify it to be a nintendo/mario cabinet. Yes I can use mame, or a pc hooked up and emulator but for $300 complete it saves a complete hassle and and basically its a super nintendo cabinet!

[InsaneDavid]

If you don't yet have an account over at KLOV (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/index.php), by all means create one and get a sound drubbing over there for wanting modify a unique dedicated cabinet.

Either way, you'll get much more info over there.

[kirbykirb]

thanks for the link :) I will check them out.

I'm still debating on purchasing it, but I think I will I see it as a great marketing tool, and I can also eventually retrofit it to run a PC/PS2/Xbox one

[old_skoolin_jim]

They have one of these cabs at the newly-opened Pinball Wizard in Pelham, NH! It's so quirky I couldn't help but play a circuit of F-Zero on it...
Feels weird playing an arcade cabinet with a D-pad, but overall it's pretty cool!

[Tighe]

My goal is going to be simple; basically modify it to be a nintendo/mario cabinet. Yes I can use mame, or a pc hooked up and emulator but for $300 complete it saves a complete hassle and and basically its a super nintendo cabinet!


If you don't yet have an account over at KLOV (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/index.php), by all means create one and get a sound drubbing over there for wanting modify a unique dedicated cabinet.

Either way, you'll get much more info over there.


thanks for the link :) I will check them out.

I'm still debating on purchasing it, but I think I will I see it as a great marketing tool, and I can also eventually retrofit it to run a PC/PS2/Xbox one



Yes please don't destroy this cabinet! There are plenty of collectors on KLOV that will give you 3 empty dynamo cabinets for that unique machine!

[FrizzleFried]

Please... don't buy that cabinet. There are PLENTY of Dynamo generic cabinets out there that you can hack the shit... leave the dedicated cabinets... well... dedicated.

Please.

[animesuperj]

Please do not hack this things up! I would love to add one of these to my collection, especially for only $300. You can easily get something else running in an already empty cabinet, like a dynamo.

[Flack]

How are the controllers on that one? I've passed on two of these now at auctions because the controllers were thrashed on both of them. I've always wondered if that was a common occurrence, or if it was just a coincidence.

[skaar]

Great idea, next to impossible to play properly on the thing.

I was going to buy a NOS conversion kit for this awhile back off ebay, tried the controls on one and - ouch.

Neat idea though.

[DreamTR]

Talk about 2 and a half months later on everyone's responses, LOL

[Rickstilwell1]

Just added pics so you guys could know what I'm talking about:

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/647/nsss22.png

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8519/nsssmwcontroller.png

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5360/nsssmw.png

This is super mario world, instead of starting normally you just play out in zones.'


http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9291/nssf.jpg

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3460/ericandjeffscamera10110.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3378/nss.png
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6755/jammaboardandpcb.jpg

My goal is going to be simple; basically modify it to be a nintendo/mario cabinet. Yes I can use mame, or a pc hooked up and emulator but for $300 complete it saves a complete hassle and and basically its a super nintendo cabinet!

This is the exact same cabinet I used to play on the ferry boat and at Funplex when I was a kid. I read somewhere that they were intended to be used only in Japan but it appears that it is more common in the USA than people imagine. A lot of us got to play on these things.

Too bad the versions of MAME that run on Xbox, Wii and the Ouya don't support this rom. These Nintendo Super System Roms were not added to the set until later, so these older console versions will say files are missing. I downloaded a full matching rom pack but these games were not even included.

I hope maybe someday I could save up for a house so I'd have room to collect cool things such as these. (and more games for what I actually do have)