Anyone play 3DS yet? [Archive] - Retrogaming Roundtable

stalepie

03-12-2011, 02:54 PM

Judging from the demo videos a while ago, the graphics looked similar to GameCube quality (and therefore much better than the DS). Is this actually true?

They look like Gamecube quality to me too, except it's a much lower resolution unfortunately (not much better than DS') and a kind of crap system design in my opinion (the top screen is asymmetrical to the bottom and the d-pad's new placement looks uncomfortable). But they gotta display TWICE as much picture data at once to do the 3D effect (which I suspect is quite phenomenal) so if a programmer made a game that didn't have the 3D effect he'd have twice as much processing power?

I don't know, but I think the initial lineup looks bland (with the possible exception of Kid Icarus)... and I think later games will be good if the development costs aren't too high.

Hope the development costs don't kill it.

Would like to see a Space Harrier / Night Striker hybrid pack.

kupomogli

03-12-2011, 03:30 PM

Judging from the demo videos a while ago, the graphics looked similar to GameCube quality (and therefore much better than the DS). Is this actually true?

Resident Evil Mercenaries 3D original gameplay trailer is pretty bs as they looked much better than Gamecube quality, but yeah, after watching actual gameplay footage I'd say it's similar to Gamecube quality but not quite. The PS2 version looks graphically better if you ask me. There are a few gameplay videos over at IGN.

It's a new system though, so I'm sure we'll see other games that take advantage of the hardware's technical capabilities in the future and may look better than PS2 and Gamecube titles.

Rev. Link

03-12-2011, 10:50 PM

In terms of raw power, isn't the 3DS supposed to be more powerful than the Wii? I thought I read/heard that somewhere.

Leo_A

03-12-2011, 10:52 PM

In terms of raw power, isn't the 3DS supposed to be more powerful than the Wii? I thought I read/heard that somewhere.

Never seen any factual evidence of such a claim, just people looking at tiny little screenshots of things like Kid Icarus and Resident Evil and then making such a statement. The closest I've seen to a comparison was the Madden developer stating how similar it was to the Wii which was allowing them to reuse much of their work. And that doesn't tell us which is more powerful.

And even if it is, it might not even translate to superior visuals. Remember that it has to be capable of rendering two independent and different views during gameplay to create the 3D effect. That isn't free and is going to take up a lot of resources compared to having to render just one image.

RCM

03-13-2011, 09:21 PM

I believe a lego game on 3DS is a straight port of the Wii build. I don't think it's as powerful as Wii, but close. I really don't care how powerful it is (or isn't), I just want to play great original content. I don't see much in terms of originality in the early lineup, but I'm hopeful that'll change by the time I buy the 3DSi-XL-SP2 in a few years.

Lady Jaye

03-14-2011, 09:13 AM

I've played a few minutes at PAX East. Tried the archery game (for which the 3D effect actually worked for me), Pilotwings (it's ok, but not great), a mini-game where you take a pic of yourself; your picture turns into balloons that you must pop, and Lego Star Wars III (def. nicer looking than the Lego games on DS, but it's not a 3D-centric game as far as I could tell).

Did not have the chance to try out Ocarina of Time 3D, as that's the game that everyone wanted to try out.

All in all, it's ok, but it'll depend on the game catalog, as with any console. You have to disactivate the 3D if you're commuting, since you need to hold the 3DS quite level so that the image doesn't double.

I don't intend on being an early adopter of the console.

Swamperon

03-14-2011, 09:17 AM

And even if it is, it might not even translate to superior visuals. Remember that it has to be capable of rendering two independent and different views during gameplay to create the 3D effect. That isn't free and is going to take up a lot of resources compared to having to render just one image.

And unfortunately just about every developer is going to be obsessed with shoving 3D into all of their titles, regardless of whether it's warranted.

dgdgagdae

03-14-2011, 11:39 AM

And unfortunately just about every developer is going to be obsessed with shoving 3D into all of their titles, regardless of whether it's warranted.

You mean like every movie that comes out now?

stalepie

03-14-2011, 12:32 PM

I'd love to see developers go overboard with the 3D. Really go crazy with it. Like can you imagine what Jeff Minter could do with this thing? I'm afraid most of it will just be "tasteful" stuff though which will make people wonder why they even bought the machine

mattimeo310

03-14-2011, 01:21 PM

I actually played one at best buy yesterday. I was really not considering getting one because I just figured that it was going to be a DS with just 3D effects. I was happy to find the graphics are quite updated and the 3D was pretty nice. A thing to note is that you have to be at the correct angle with the 3D turned on or else everything looks doubled, like a 3D movie looks without the glasses. The station was about 4 feet off the ground and I had to awkwardly crouch in order to get the 3D effects to work appropriately.

Rob2600

03-14-2011, 01:35 PM

In terms of raw power, isn't the 3DS supposed to be more powerful than the Wii? I thought I read/heard that somewhere.

even if it is, it might not even translate to superior visuals. Remember that it has to be capable of rendering two independent and different views during gameplay to create the 3D effect. That isn't free and is going to take up a lot of resources compared to having to render just one image.

Yes, but keep in mind the 3DS's top screen is 800x240 total (400x240 per eye) and bottom screen is 320x240. While this is higher than the DS, it's still lower than the GameCube and Wii's 640x480 and therefore requires less processing power to achieve equivalent graphics.

GameCube and Wii:
640x480 = 307,200 pixels

3DS:
(800x240 = 192,000 pixels) + (320x240 = 76,800 pixels) = 268,800 pixels

The 3DS doesn't have to push as many pixels as either home console, so it could produce equivalent graphics with hardware that's roughly 15% less powerful. The question is how similar is the 3DS hardware to the GameCube or Wii hardware, in terms of processing power?

And just for comparison's sake, the DS pushes (256x192 = 49,152) x 2 = 98,304 pixels total

Robocop2

03-15-2011, 06:03 PM

I checked it out at Best Buy this afternoon and it was pretty cool. The effect isn't nearly as obvious and intrusive as I was expecting but that may just be Pilotwings. I could see it being headache inducing if you spent too much time with it though. I will say that viewing angle is extremely important as if you move out of the correct angle everything turns into double vision pretty quickly. At first I was playing it hunched over but shortly I figured out that the 3DS is held on the stand by some pretty strong magnets and with a little pulling it comes right off so you can actually hold it instead.

They had the aqua blue one there and to me that color is um, different. Kind of want to see a black one just to see the difference but I think I'll wait for different colors to come out. Called the wife and told her about it since she pretty much exclusively plays her DS and when I told her how much they are and that they don't have it in pink she pretty much said she didn't want one....yet

Overall though I thought it was a pretty nifty experience. I kind of want to see what else they can do with the 3D before I spring the 250 on one though. Just isn't anything in the launch lineup that is a killer app to me.

dgdgagdae

03-16-2011, 08:07 AM

lookfun78

03-17-2011, 03:07 PM

I read in game informer you can take games you downloaded from ds shop and add it to the 3ds. Any one know how this will be done?

The 1 2 P

03-17-2011, 10:15 PM

I played this at Best Buy today. I think the game was Pilotwings since I was flying an airplane. The 3D affect was a little annoying because you had to hold the console at the same height position to keep it from getting blurry and I tend to move around a bit when playing my games. But I do like how they incorporated the 3D without any annoying glasses and it works well when it's actually working.

stalepie

03-18-2011, 05:49 PM

Thought this was interesting:

"If the 3D was turned all the down I am actually at a disadvantage, since the ability to perceive depth offers some clues about where I am in relation to other objects in the game world. Twitchy things like landing with the rocket belt become much easier."

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/03/3ds-hardware-arrives-why-the-3d-slider-is-the-best-thing-ever.ars

Maybe the 3D will actually impact gameplay a little.

Dr. Dib

03-18-2011, 08:46 PM

I tried it out at Best Buy today. I was hoping to try a game that wasn't Pilotwings, but that's all they had. I couldn't really see the 3D effect that well, but I did notice when it wasn't on. I'm going to another Best Buy tomorrow so hopefully I can get a better play test of it.

SpaceHarrier

03-18-2011, 10:06 PM

I checked it out at Best Buy this afternoon and it was pretty cool. At first I was playing it hunched over but shortly I figured out that the 3DS is held on the stand by some pretty strong magnets and with a little pulling it comes right off so you can actually hold it instead.

So today I played the Pilotwings demo at Best Buy.. following the above quote I tried to lift the 3DS off its magnet base. Unfortunately my local Best Buy had also attached it with thick adhesive tape.

I tore that sucker right off LOL

Then my fingers got all sticky from the adhesive goo.

I found playing with the 3D turned about 5/6 of the way up worked best, and relaxing my eyes made viewing more comfortable. By relaxing my eyes, I mean kinda like viewing a Magic Eye book, but maybe not quite that relaxed.

Fun stuff, I want one! (not aqua blue though)

Leo_A

03-18-2011, 10:08 PM

I read in game informer you can take games you downloaded from ds shop and add it to the 3ds. Any one know how this will be done?

When it was first announced, the wording made it sound like not every download necessarily was going to be transferable.

The feature is being added in Japan through a firmware update in the coming weeks. It wasn't present at launch.

I believe that's pretty much all that has been said about it so far.

And my guess is you will download some utility from the shop to both your 3DS and your DSi/DSiXL and start it up on both and the license transfer will be done through communicating via wifi between each to transfer the rights to your 3DS.

Dr. Dib

03-19-2011, 10:12 AM

I just wanted to add that a store locator is now up on Nintendo's website: http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/events/locator/

From my search it looks like they only have the kiosks at Best Buys right now, but they don't have them at every Best Buy.

Icarus Moonsight

03-19-2011, 11:09 AM

LMAO Tough luck kid reporting.

The search utility basically told me to jump in a lake. It brought up one result and put the pin dead center in John Gamer Pond. LOL

joshnickerson

03-19-2011, 04:32 PM

Tried out Pilotwings this afternoon at my local Best Buy. The 3D works pretty much as I expected it to (kinda like one of those lenticular baseball cards), but it was still impressive to see it in motion. I was a bit upset that the Home button was locked out in this demo unit, since I wanted to check out the GUI, but realizing that I was in a college town, that was probably done to prevent drunken frat boys from sticking the 3DS down their pants and taking a picture of their junk.

Overbite

03-19-2011, 05:23 PM

I played the archery game at PAX East and it was pretty cool. I got one on preorder but I'm not gonna get any launch games with it.

CrazyGamesDude

03-19-2011, 10:49 PM

I played the 3DS today at a local Best Buy. It was pretty much all that I thought it would be, and I mean that in a good way. I thought the 3D was good, and I liked the design of the system. I especially liked the circle pad, and it is MUCH better than the PSP joystick. Like a lot of other people are saying, I found the 3D slider to be best towards the top, but not all the way to the top. Also, I thought Pilotwings Resort was better than I thought it would be. I also think the 3D effect will be better/worse than Pilotwings depending on what game you are playing, but I guess we will just have to wait and see. I am definitely getting one though, and I've already had it pre-ordered for a while. Also, I don't know why a lot of people don't like the blue 3DS, I thought it looked pretty good.

goatdan

03-19-2011, 11:23 PM

I got to see one at a Best Buy earlier this week. I can't see 3D real well (injured my left eye about a year and a half ago and my vision is severely impacted) but I had been seriously contemplating buying one of these because I thought the screen rending the 3D might make it much better than the stereoscopic glasses things that really don't work.

The screen looked worse to me than the 3D glasses do.

Glad I didn't preorder, and I now know I'll never own one. But I saw the new PSP thing, and that looks pretty cool.

Rev. Link

03-20-2011, 12:34 AM

Icarus Moonsight

03-20-2011, 12:59 AM

Rev. Link

03-20-2011, 01:07 AM

Might as well wait for a price drop at least, if you are not going to use it's main feature at all. For someone with eye problems, that's just how it is for them. Not really harsh, it's an easy position to understand. Why pay the early adopter premium for the new tech you're not going to or can't use?

No no, I understand the vision issue and why anyone would want to wait for a price drop. But to say you'll never own one just because the 3D doesn't work for you, when the 3D can be turned off completely and the system can still be used like any other handheld, that's just jumping the gun.

I'm hoping that we'll see a number of games that make little to no use of the 3D, just like the Wii needs to have games that don't really use the motion controls.

Leo_A

03-20-2011, 02:04 AM

I thought it's main feature was to play 3DS games?

I want one and I won't be able to view it's 3D effect. Doesn't mean I won't be able to fully enjoy new handheld releases on Nintendo's latest handheld.

Would be like skipping a SuperNes because your deaf in one ear and wouldn't be able to experience it's new stereo audio...

Sonicwolf

03-20-2011, 02:16 AM

I played the archery game at PAX East and it was pretty cool. I got one on preorder but I'm not gonna get any launch games with it.

Im in the same boat. I pre-ordered but am not planning on buying any launch titles. None of them really catch my interest.

Nz17

03-20-2011, 11:56 AM

I might be in a minority here, but I'm pre-ordering the 3DS for "Mega Man Legends 3" - a game which won't be released in North America for *two more years*. Yes, I've been waiting for a sequel to that series for enough time and wishing to see to see it greatly enough that once I knew that we were finally getting a sequel and which console/handheld it was for, it was time to buy.

Will The Big N release a lighter, more efficient version of the 3DS by then? Probably. But I want to be prepared, and I don't want to be out of luck if a situation forms like with past console sell-outs like the Wii where demand can't be met for years after launch. If they do release a better version before "Mega Man Legends 3" launches then I'll upgrade and sell the original 3DS.

I'm buying "Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition" for a launch game to play because I bought the original release on PC, and I like the new content in the updated releases. CAPCOM's video commercials for this game are really well produced so you might want to check out them.

c0ldb33r

03-20-2011, 12:48 PM

goatdan

03-20-2011, 01:15 PM

That's a little harsh, writing it off like that just because you weren't thrilled with the 3D. You can turn the 3D off, you know. I'm sure there'll be plenty of decent games for it eventually that you'll want to play.

It wasn't that I "wasn't thrilled with the 3D." It was that I cannot see it correctly at all, and it looked horrible to me. Yeah, I can turn off the 3D -- but to me, that would be like saying, "I'll but an Xbox 360, but I'll only use it to play Xbox Live games." The main point is the 3D, and since I can't see it and have no hope of ever seeing it, I have no interest in the console. I'm sure I'm in the minority there, but I'm also certain the next gen PSP will also have plenty of decent games that I'll want to play, and you can only devote so much time to gaming, anyway.

maxlords

03-20-2011, 01:21 PM

I'd say the main point is the games....I have little use for 3D but I'm buying one for Professor Layton and Layton Vs. Phoenix Wright. I'm not buying any launch titles either.

NayusDante

03-20-2011, 04:19 PM

Closest demo in my area looks like it's in some dude's backyard shed. Not kidding.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_iPijsj5fRhs/TYZhB7aQcOI/AAAAAAAAASA/FQbjdP1pnL4/s640/3ds.PNG

At any rate, I'm likely skipping at least the first revision. Maybe if/when Mega Man Legends 3 sees a release, I'll pick one up.

kupomogli

03-20-2011, 04:24 PM

Closest demo in my area looks like it's in some dude's backyard shed. Not kidding.

You should show up at their house and be like. I'd like to try out the 3DS please. If they say they don't know what you're talking about you should be like, "Don't fu**ing lie to me. I have proof that you have a demo unit right here." Have some one recording it and put it on Youtube.

Rev. Link

03-20-2011, 05:53 PM

I'd say the main point is the games....I have little use for 3D but I'm buying one for Professor Layton and Layton Vs. Phoenix Wright. I'm not buying any launch titles either.

The main point is absolutely the games. The 3D is really just a gimmick. A neat gimmick, but a gimmick none the less. Just like there are plenty of DS games that make little to no use of the touch screen, I'm sure there will be plenty of 3DS games that'll be great without the 3D.

heybtbm

03-20-2011, 07:28 PM

The main point is absolutely the games. The 3D is really just a gimmick. A neat gimmick, but a gimmick none the less. Just like there are plenty of DS games that make little to no use of the touch screen, I'm sure there will be plenty of 3DS games that'll be great without the 3D.

Agreed. The 3D is an interesting diversion...but not the primary draw for me. This is Nintendo's next-generation of handheld, not a DS with 3D capabilities. I understand the "DS" name has huge market value and that's why they used it...but in reality it was probably the worst name they could've chose.

-dustburn-

03-20-2011, 10:16 PM

That's actually pointing out your zip code and relative location. If there are any locations near you, they would be NUMBERED. :)

Closest demo in my area looks like it's in some dude's backyard shed. Not kidding.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_iPijsj5fRhs/TYZhB7aQcOI/AAAAAAAAASA/FQbjdP1pnL4/s640/3ds.PNG

At any rate, I'm likely skipping at least the first revision. Maybe if/when Mega Man Legends 3 sees a release, I'll pick one up.

Kyle15

03-21-2011, 12:19 AM

I just tried it out today myself. The 3D was just what I thought, and while still technically a "gimmick", it is a lot more enjoyable than the stuff in theaters. Nothing surprised me that much save for the "analog" disc. It is absolutely beautiful! None of the launch titles "hit the spot" sadly, so it looks like I'll just buy 999 instead.

Streetball 21

03-21-2011, 01:26 AM

Only a week left!

I still don't know what I'm going to buy at launch. I think it'll be Street Fighter and Pilotwings.

I haven't seen cases or anything released yet. I always keep my portable systems in a case, so I'm getting a little nervous that they won't be available for a little while. I'll be nervous until I get a screen protector on the bottom screen and a case around the whole DS.

I hear you I am the same way. Just like the Wii launch, I did confirm with Gamestop that there will be no extra games or systems available, you would pretty much have to preorder everything. Not sure if this goes for case protectors. We'll see...

03-21-2011, 11:57 AM

Only a week left!

I still don't know what I'm going to buy at launch. I think it'll be Street Fighter and Pilotwings.

I haven't seen cases or anything released yet. I always keep my portable systems in a case, so I'm getting a little nervous that they won't be available for a little while. I'll be nervous until I get a screen protector on the bottom screen and a case around the whole DS.

Gamestop has cases for $ 20

I picked one up last week

Frankie_Says_Relax

03-29-2011, 10:07 PM

Picked mine up today with Street Fighter.

The hardware is nice, exactly what I expected from Nintendo. Setup was relatively easy, and poking around the on-board options and software (Mii Maker, Friend Code, Internet Setup etc.) was generally painless.

Super Street Fighter IV is really nice ... a great portable version of the game. While I don't love using either the d-pad or the analog (neither feel optimal/right) I don't have any real problems pulling off moves, so it'll just take a bit of getting used to.

My two biggest gripes about the system are ONE that a lot of on-board software isn't there for launch!

NO WEB BROWSER!
NO SHOP CHANNEL!
NO OPTION TO TRANSFER DSi SOFTWARE!

... YET (for all of the above).

I felt like I had read up on everything I somehow missed that the Shop Channel wouldn't be available until MAY!

And TWO the on-board speakers are SO SOOOO soft, even at maximum setting they're really really quiet. The DSi has much better/louder speakers IMO.

I noticed a tiny bit of eye strain after a few hours of playing around with the 3D games, but nothing migraine inducing.

Otherwise, everything seems cool. Looking forward to a whole new generation of Nintendo portable software.

c0ldb33r

03-29-2011, 10:11 PM

Agreed on the quiet speakers. I don't get it either.

Frankie_Says_Relax

03-30-2011, 12:27 AM

Sweet, it actually plays MP3 format audio files!

I hated the needless hastle of converting tracks to AAC format for the DSi.

WanganRunner

03-30-2011, 09:33 AM

Gripes: (all tiny ones)

-3DS Sound Editor could have had ridimentary music-making functionality

-eShop should have been up and running from day 1, with downloadable demos

-Headphone jack should be on one side, not in the center, so I can put the 3DS in my pocket, jack-side up, and have the cord poke out. As it is, it's tough to put this in a hip pocket for music listening.

-Camera resolution should be much higher. It is on even the cheapest cell phones.

-Launch units should have shipped with extra goodies on them, to motivate people to buy at launch. This could include:
-8 or 10 Nintendo MP3 tracks, pre-loaded. Retro soundtrack stuff.
-3D video excerpts from Miyamoto/Iwata interviews on Nintendo website

-DS screen resizing options are subpar, but not so bad as to be unplayable. I've put 4 hours on Pokemon White on the 3DS and it's fine. Not perfect, but fine.

But yeah, really nitpicking here. I wish they did more "fan service" sorts of things in general, but those aren't gripes, just "wish list" sorts of things.

portnoyd

03-30-2011, 09:57 AM

Ugh, I was not enjoying the 3D last night at all. Have to keep the slider right above off just to make it not hurt my head.

Deadman

03-30-2011, 10:23 AM

No gripes so far. Lots of hours put on the machine on a few different games with only a little eye strain after hours of play. But then again, I could have had that on the older stuff, just didn't notice.

Can't wait for the next wave of games and for the inevitable price drops on the first wave! Looking forward to picking up Bust A Move, Super Monkey Ball and a few others on the cheap in a month or so.

acem77

03-30-2011, 10:50 AM

I got my blue 3DS at Wal-Mart late Sunday afternoon just an impulse buy, went for milk and shout out stain remover....
Then bought a 3DS, pilot wings and steel diver(loved this when it was just a tech demo when DS launched).
I forgot it was the launch day.. think it's my 1st launch day portable purchase.

I love 3d. So I could not resist.

The 3d is ok but the screen is not as good as the Fuji w3.
Its good but the Fuji's is almost perfect.
There is some ghosting on the 3DS and not just from extreme parallax settings.
That cannot be correct(even with the slider almost down all the way), the Fuji w3 has zero ghosting.

The 3d camera in the 3DS has nothing on the Fuji w3 that was almost a given.

At least they share the same picture format .mpo and can be displayed on each other.
Sony has a free program on the ps3 to view those file on a 3d tv.

I love the built in mini games the augmented reality game are cool and fun.

I have converted some 3d movies to play on the fuji w3 I hope I can do the same for the 3DS this will better since it has support for headphones,
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1281622
can't wait to test this out.
The same methods should work as long as they have a fw update that includes a 3d movie player :)

I look forward to the updates to enable the web browser and some type of market place.

It was nice to have the 2GB SD card included and the docking charge station.
The big ass multi language manual seemed like a waste. I think it�s the biggest manual of any system released.

The little red boot up screen is cool, in memory of the vr boy:)
Now they could port vr boy,3d master system and 3d famicom games to run on this and add some cool updates.

They should have included some video game mp3s,a movie player with some demo videos, and had the web browser and store complete in the launch firmware.

I liked the sound on the 3ds for only 2 speakers it does a good job on creating the surround effect.

I played around with the AR cards with scans on my pc, it detects them with very basic color patterns.
I edited the card to be just the blue cube, black back ground and white trim. Put a pink blob in the middle it Kirby, some green and yellow blobs its link...

The angle detected by how the perspective of the rectangle changes to the cameras point of view. Took 2 pieces of white paper to change the angel of the left and right edge to mess with the depth, make the back look wider than the front.

portnoyd

03-30-2011, 11:13 AM

Why are you comparing the 3DS to a digital camera?

acem77

03-30-2011, 11:33 AM

Why are you comparing the 3DS to a digital camera?

Really why not?
They share the same tech for the screen.
The 3DS screen is the heart of the system if there is room for improvement it should be noted.
Do you have better ideas to compare it to.
They also share the same picture format and maybe the same video format.

What do you have to add to this topic?

I posted a lot of feedback, move on.....

portnoyd

03-30-2011, 11:35 AM

Really why not? They share the same tech for the screen.
The 3DS screen is the heart of the system if there is room for improvement it should be noted. Do you have better ideas to compare it to.
They also share the same picture format and maybe the same video format.

So how do the 3DS games play on that camera?

What do you have to add to this topic?

Ugh, I was not enjoying the 3D last night at all. Have to keep the slider right above off just to make it not hurt my head.

Robocop2

03-30-2011, 11:36 AM

So how is Steel Diver?

portnoyd

03-30-2011, 11:39 AM

I'll tell you when it arrives today.

Oobgarm

03-30-2011, 11:52 AM

I'll tell you when it arrives today.

Yeah, maybe then you can finally add to this topic, troll

WanganRunner

03-30-2011, 12:38 PM

So how do the 3DS games play on that camera?

I LOL'd.

But srsly guise, I'd never heard of that camera. It looks super cool, I'm going to have to go out and try it at Best Buy or something.

I could use a decent little point/shoot, my DSLR is too heavy/large sometimes.

acem77

03-30-2011, 12:52 PM

So how is Steel Diver?

1st, I love water games so count me in.

If not you may not like the game so much..

The 3d is less intense but nice and clean.
The gfx reminds me of In the Hunt another one of my fav games.
The sound is over all pleasant.
I look forward to more 2.5d 3d games.
Maybe a firmware upgrade will enable 2d-3d conversion on older DS games.

It can take a while to get use to using all the controls on the touch screen.

It�s a bit slower paced from what I have played. Needs to be with all the controls on the screen.
If you take damage you have to tap the leaks on the screen to fix them.
Also surfacing replenishes air and health.

The periscope part seems to be a mini type game not part of the main campaign.
It is still cool. the 1 to 1 tracking as you move the 3DS to turn the scope is neat.

acem77

03-30-2011, 01:02 PM

I LOL'd.

But srsly guise, I'd never heard of that camera. It looks super cool, I'm going to have to go out and try it at Best Buy or something.

I could use a decent little point/shoot, my DSLR is too heavy/large sometimes.

Off topic a bit,
I have a hard time going back to my other cameras after using the fuji W3
everything is so much more lifelike and details look crisp and pop out.

Nature pics of waterfalls, caves, rock formations, plants, reflections off the water are awesome.
Pics of friends and family are priceless. It's like having a piece of reality paused and stored for the future.

Frankie_Says_Relax

03-30-2011, 01:09 PM

Maybe a firmware upgrade will enable 2d-3d conversion on older DS games.

More likely that Nintendo will hit us with a "3DS Edition" of popular 1st party DS titles at retail.

I can see the potential of Mario Kart DS 3DS edition and New Super Mario 3DS edition being stop-gap million-sellers until actual current-gen versions of those games are available.

PapaStu

03-30-2011, 03:53 PM

More likely that Nintendo will hit us with a "3DS Edition" of popular 1st party DS titles at retail.

I can see the potential of Mario Kart DS 3DS edition and New Super Mario 3DS edition being stop-gap million-sellers until actual current-gen versions of those games are available.

I think Nintendo stole your idea

Mario Kart 3D
http://www.gamestop.com/nintendo-3ds/games/mario-kart-3ds/89891

Paper Mario 3D
http://www.gamestop.com/nintendo-3ds/games/paper-mario-3ds/89905

Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
http://www.gamestop.com/nintendo-3ds/games/legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3ds/89884

Frankie_Says_Relax

03-30-2011, 04:22 PM

I think Nintendo stole your idea

Mario Kart 3D
http://www.gamestop.com/nintendo-3ds/games/mario-kart-3ds/89891

Paper Mario 3D
http://www.gamestop.com/nintendo-3ds/games/paper-mario-3ds/89905

Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
http://www.gamestop.com/nintendo-3ds/games/legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3ds/89884

Those bastards!

I'm suing.

Seriously though, predictable Nintendo is predictable.

Robocop2

03-30-2011, 05:14 PM

1st, I love water games so count me in.

If not you may not like the game so much..

The 3d is less intense but nice and clean.
The gfx reminds me of In the Hunt another one of my fav games.
The sound is over all pleasant.
I look forward to more 2.5d 3d games.
Maybe a firmware upgrade will enable 2d-3d conversion on older DS games.

It can take a while to get use to using all the controls on the touch screen.

It�s a bit slower paced from what I have played. Needs to be with all the controls on the screen.
If you take damage you have to tap the leaks on the screen to fix them.
Also surfacing replenishes air and health.

The periscope part seems to be a mini type game not part of the main campaign.
It is still cool. the 1 to 1 tracking as you move the 3DS to turn the scope is neat.

Thanks for the input, I still haven't settled on picking one of these up but this is really the only game that I have a remote intrest in which is whats holding me back partially. Well that and the way DS games are displayed.

Leo_A

03-30-2011, 06:16 PM

Paper Mario and Mario Kart are new original titles.

They're not just 3D versions of Paper Mario for the N64 and Mario Kart DS.

Icarus Moonsight

03-31-2011, 08:11 AM

How predictable of them, delivering new games for long established and loved franchises... Oh wait, that's what their customers want and proved it so by buying all the sequels and ports in the past! Almost got me there. LOL

Saw a youtube video of playing a 3DS yesterday. With the 3D effect on, it just looks a little blurry on camera. The parallax effect is more subtle than I initially thought it would be. I'm going to try and see if I can demo a unit today. Not going to buy one yet, already decided that. But I am curious about it.

Frankie_Says_Relax

03-31-2011, 09:55 AM

How predictable of them, delivering new games for long established and loved franchises... Oh wait, that's what their customers want and proved it so by buying all the sequels and ports in the past! Almost got me there. LOL

Okay, so, predictable Nintendo customers are predictable.

Also, while I'm not even legitimately criticizing it (since I'm one of millions that typically triple and quadruple dips on each subsequent iteration of Nintendo's re-packaging of classics) it doesn't change the fact that it's still predictable behavior.

Anybody care to take bets on whether or not Nintendo will be re-packaging past versions of popular titles with tacked-on 3DS hardware related features for the 3DS?

RCM

03-31-2011, 10:52 AM

Well, isn't that happening already with Pac-man and Galaga? Hell, from what I've played of Rayman 3D it's little more than a 3D enhanced Rayman 2 (which isn't a bad thing).

Frankie_Says_Relax

03-31-2011, 11:01 AM

Well, isn't that happening already with Pac-man and Galaga? Hell, from what I've played of Rayman 3D it's little more than a 3D enhanced Rayman 2 (which isn't a bad thing).

Right.

We've all see this in hardware generation after hardware generation, especially in the early gen releases a quick port of existing software with hardware-specific-tweaks is pretty much par for the course.

And as much as I enjoy seeing new/different game concepts, characters, etc. I don't think there's anything wrong with hitting the well for some sure-fire hits/sellers per se.