Nintendo to release 20 year anniversery NES Systems in 2005!

[Anthony1]

Ha! Made you LOOK! Ok, I'm lying. I admit it. Sorry to get some of you so excited, but don't you think this would be a good idea if Nintendo did this?

There is obviously a market out there for the old NES machine, they get bought and sold on Ebay constantly. Nintendo could make say just ten thousand units, or twenty five thousand units or something like that.

They could release them in 2005 to celebrate the 20 year anniversery of the Original NES. By the way, did the NES first come out in late 1984 in Japan? Or was it a worldwide release in 1985?

If the NES originally came out in say November of 1984 in Japan, they could celebrate the 20 year anniversery then, with a special release of the classic NES.

I wonder if they did it, could they add TRUE stereo sound to it, or RGB output capability or anything to improve it.


The reason that I bring this topic up, is that I was looking into getting a old NES system, and I've heard that at this point, with them being like 15, 16, 17 years old, they are very unreliable, and that you have to clean them and jiggle them and do all kinds of things to get them to work. So I was thinking, "God, if only Nintendo could just remake it in limited quantities. Then you wouldn't have to worry about all the blinking and everything."

[Arqueologia_Digital]

Ha! Made you LOOK!
:/

[Anthony1]

yeah, I know.... Sorry for having to give folks false hope like that. But I just was thinking of what to make the Subject read to get people to look at this thread and ponder this topic.

[hezeuschrist]

All you need is a decent condition NES toaster and a new 72-pin connector. Works like new.

[MarioAllStar2600]

FIrst off, when I first read this i nearly soiled myself :P , then I read the content, ha made you look. I was ready to find out where you live and kill you. I just let it roll off my back though. lol
Second off, this would be a terrible idea. I'm 14 years old so I know that alot of younger people WOULDN'T buy this. Young people want sex, drugs, killing, and online play. It's as easy as that. Most kids in college who grew up with the system would rather just buy one from Funcoland or gamespot. It wouldn't make any money. I personally would love to see it. But hey with the sales of the gamecube if we want Nintendo to stick around. They better not do this or anything like it

Hey thats just my outlook on the situation :)

[dave2236]

:bad-words: :moon:

[RetroYoungen]

FIrst off, when I first read this i nearly soiled myself :P , then I read the content, ha made you look. I was ready to find out where you live and kill you. I just let it roll off my back though. lol
Second off, this would be a terrible idea. I'm 14 years old so I know that alot of younger people WOULDN'T buy this. Young people want sex, drugs, killing, and online play. It's as easy as that. Most kids in college who grew up with the system would rather just buy one from Funcoland or gamespot. It wouldn't make any money. I personally would love to see it. But hey with the sales of the gamecube if we want Nintendo to stick around. They better not do this or anything like it

Hey thats just my outlook on the situation :)

There I'd have to disagree with ya there, little dude. I'm 18 myself, and I know plenty of people who would be interested in such a rerelease. Maybe the kids as young as yourself or maybe just the people you know, but I think that with a limited release they couldn't go too far wrong. There's first the collection scene (as we are demonstrating right here right now) and the scene of people getting into reliving their childhood or reliving memories past. A small release would make them a good amount of money; mass production wouldn't.

[Kroogah]

I think everyone that wants an NES has one already.

Now if they started releasing new NES games...U.S. releases of Fire Emblem or the original Earthbound, anyone? ^_^

[Starcade]

Reading that made my heart skip a beat. :fist:

I would definately buy one if Nintendo ever did that, although if they ever did, it would be in very limited quantities.

[calthaer]

That was not at all funny.

I already have a Nintendo in awesome shape, but I would buy one of those top-loading ones if they re-released them.

[atomicthumbs]

First off... you bastard... :bad-words:

Second... That WAS pretty funny, so I forgive you... :roll:

Third... I think that it would be a bad idea for Nintendo, but I would LOVE it myself! Just think... You walk into a best buy and see a top loader packed with Metroid and Contra for $39.99! Or a GOLD colored front loader packed with The Legend of Zelda and Adventure of Link! That WOULD be a sight! :rocker:

[Dire 51]

I second Yashiro's idea... maybe we could finally get Gradius II and Crisis Force here.

[Anthony1]

Once again guys, I'm sorry for having that title, cause I know that if I came on the forums and saw that, I would have been jumping for joy, only to find out......what?.... It's just a joke.....damn bastard!

I would definitely have been pissed too. It's just I wanted to get people to actually look at this topic and consider it logically.

Personally, I don't think a small re-release of the NES would be anything bad at all for Nintendo. If they did it, it would be in celebration for the 20th anniversary of their original home video game unit. It wouldn't be about them making any big time money off of it. It would be more about them giving something back to all the super hardcore Nintendo loyalists. Also it would be giving the collectors and retro gamers a new version of this classic system, so that it would have brand new circuits and stuff like that, and then it would last much, much longer.

In regards to the 72 pin thing, from what I've heard, even if you do put in the new 72 pin, a lot of the old Nintendo's still have problems occasionally. Maybe the information that I've heard is incorrect.

But anyways, I think if Nintendo did make say 25,000 of these units, they would be snapped up very quickly. 25,000 units for a worldwide audience of gamers that have now grown up and would buy it for that nostalgic factor, or for showing their kids what video games used to be like, etc, etc. Plus all the collectors would be all over it like white on rice.

It would be interesting to see if actual retail stores like Target and Wal-Mart would have any, if this did happen. Or if Nintendo would have to sell them directly off of their website.

[maxlords]

I second Yashiro's idea... maybe we could finally get Gradius II and Crisis Force here.

And then there's those of us who found Crisis Force and a stack of other Famicom games in a pawn shop for $30 back in college.... :D Crisis Force is one of the few STUNNING NES shmups....I can't believe it never made it here.....it's SOOOOOO awesome!

[Anonymous]

In Japan, Nintendo just halted production of the Famicom about 3 months ago :o

[Dire 51]

And then there's those of us who found Crisis Force and a stack of other Famicom games in a pawn shop for $30 back in college.... :D Crisis Force is one of the few STUNNING NES shmups....I can't believe it never made it here.....it's SOOOOOO awesome!

You, sir, are a lucky bastard. :) I only got my copy a couple of months ago.

[Britboy]

>:(

+1

[Kid Fenris]

And then there's those of us who found Crisis Force and a stack of other Famicom games in a pawn shop for $30 back in college.... :D Crisis Force is one of the few STUNNING NES shmups....I can't believe it never made it here.....it's SOOOOOO awesome!

You, sir, are a lucky bastard. :) I only got my copy a couple of months ago.

You're BOTH lucky bastards. ;) I'm still looking for a copy.

Good one, Anthony. Now clean out your desk and leave the building by five today.

[Achika]

WORST. IDEA. EVER.


Ok, you want to release 10,000-25,000 units, sorry but that's a lot, considering how old of a system you are talking about. And what pratell, would people play on them? Surely you don't think Nintendo would relinquish funds to the "evil" Funcoland or eBay, so people could buy games off of there to play on the brand new NES? If anything, you'll be looking forward to the 20th year anniversary fun packs for Gamecube (or GBA...whatever)

As much as I love my NES, releasing a 20 year old system which many people just don't have an interest in is just plain stupid. I don't think any of these videogame companies have collectors in mind, nor the people that pop down $50 at Funco for the 5 minute nostoligia factor only to return the system a month later to get GRAND THEFT AUTO 16: FUN AT DIZNEY LAND

While it's a fun idea to toy around, you just aren't thinking logically.

[Kroogah]

WORST. IDEA. EVER.


Ok, you want to release 10,000-25,000 units, sorry but that's a lot, considering how old of a system you are talking about. And what pratell, would people play on them? Surely you don't think Nintendo would relinquish funds to the "evil" Funcoland or eBay, so people could buy games off of there to play on the brand new NES? If anything, you'll be looking forward to the 20th year anniversary fun packs for Gamecube (or GBA...whatever)

As much as I love my NES, releasing a 20 year old system which many people just don't have an interest in is just plain stupid. I don't think any of these videogame companies have collectors in mind, nor the people that pop down $50 at Funco for the 5 minute nostoligia factor only to return the system a month later to get GRAND THEFT AUTO 16: FUN AT DIZNEY LAND

While it's a fun idea to toy around, you just aren't thinking logically.

I think we have a winner, ladies and gentlemen. Let's go home. ^_^

[Lifebringeroftorv]

if they did release it, wonder if it would look like this.

click here (http://correiastudios.tripod.com/nintendo20th.jpg)

edit: damn tripod not linking graphics, click the link to look.

[kainemaxwell]

In Japan, Nintendo just halted production of the Famicom about 3 months ago :o

Wow! What was Nintedo still releasing for the Famicom after all this itme then?

[Nature Boy]

Why hasn't anybody mentioned games yet? How can they re-release something without also re-releasing games for it? You ignore part of your potential market (those without NESes currently that might pick one up for Nostalgia reasons should they see it in Walmart or whatever).

It's all about how you market it. Keep the production low so that they're not available just anywhere (maybe ignore the big chains and only sell to direct sellers like EB, Gamestop, Microplay, whatever). Market it using Nostalgia as your primary tool and release some 4 in 1s with it (like, say, all the Mario games in one cart, or keep games together like their "Action" series etc.)

I only see this working for the big selling consoles though: Atari 2600 and NES specifically say. Maybe Genesis or SNES, although neither dominated to the degree of the VCS or NES, so it might not work. It would never work for consoles like the SMS or 5200.

[Captain Wrong]

Achika hits the nail on the head. If Nintendo wanted to do anything, one of those "NES + Games in a controller" type deals might sell if anything. Or how 'bout a real NES comp for the GBA instead of the dippy "scan card 30 times" e-reader? That something I think people would actually buy.

Re-issuing a 20 year console that the average gamer has no interest in is a great idea if they want to lose money. Sure, the collector/NES fanboy would buy the thing in a heart beat, but thinking that your average Xbox fan is gonna plunk down for a old console and then buy games on top of that is wishful thinking.

Plus, really, aren't there more than enough NES decks to go around? One thing I've never heard someone say is "man, I'd really like a NES, but I just can't seem to find one."

[omnedon]

In regards to the 72 pin thing, from what I've heard, even if you do put in the new 72 pin, a lot of the old Nintendo's still have problems occasionally. Maybe the information that I've heard is incorrect.


Why, yes, it is incorrect. If you still get blink with a new connector, there are only three possibilities.

1) Cart is DIRTY and would blink in a brand new re-issued console too ( this is the issue 99% of the time)

2) Connector is installed improperly. How that could be done I have no idea. It goes on one way only, and is no harder than upgrading a computer's RAM (never happened to me)

3) New connector is a Dud. Try another one. ( I've seen this happen once, and I've pinned more than 50 NES's and counting)

Facts is facts :-D

[Bratwurst]

You know, it's nothing new when people clamour for the re-release of the Nintendo. Folks were pining for an adaptor for the SNES to play NES carts right when it came out. Compilations for the N64. That We Want NES Back (http://www.classicgaming.com/wwnbf/) site. It's getting pretty old when someone goes HEY WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF THEY BROUGHT IT BACK over and over again.

I don't want the Nintendo to become mainstream again, it's popular enough as it is now, and there's no shortage of anything (barring a few high demand titles that aren't worth playing to begin with).

Plus, it's just a matter of exerting a little effort to fix something (http://www.angelfire.com/apes/madmeat/toaster1.html) instead of dreaming about it wistfully.

[FABombjoy]

In Japan, Nintendo just halted production of the Famicom about 3 months ago :o

Do you have a source for this? The nintendo.co.jp site has no reference to this whatsoever, and the Nintendo shareholders report doesn't either.

[Kevin Listwan]

First off, there is a market for the system and the games, look to ebay.

Second, why not release “super carts” that include lets say the entire Super Mario series on one cart, same with Mega Man, or other common theme games. Or maybe make the newly released games work only with the newly released system.

Third, there are quite a few people who play emulated NES games on their comp. Many of them would much rather have a system with games.

Fourth, the cost to produce might not even be that bad, since the tech is old and can easily be updated keeping the production costs down.

Fifth- Just release the old games like was done with Super Mario All-Stars for the Game Cube. Very little cost to update the graphics and everything else is already done for the most part (story, art, sound).

Basically I think Nintendo could pull it off and still make money. My fifth idea would be the best and most profitable for Nintendo. Of course the question is, would it be profitable enough?

[Anonymous]

There was a news item taken from the Nihon Kizei Shinbum that came from a Press Release put out by NCL. No US announcement was made, hence no mention in the US. It was, however, picked up by Gamespot, and you can see the original report if you've got gamespot complete.

[Jorpho]

Yep. I think they said they were still making FDSs as well.
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[grayejectbutton]

Interesting idea but I agree with others who have said it's not a good one. To start with, there is no way that Nintendo would even break even over such a project. It's simple economics. You have to mass produce units and then sell through about 75% of them to start making a profit, but if you manufacture too few units then the systems cost more to make. This is because it's always cheaper to order components (like chips) in bulk from suppliers. A small production run of only 10,000 units (or even a slightly higher number) would cost Nintendo a fortune to make. Even if the chips have gone down in price (assuming they are even made anymore), the costs of plastic and metal have not. Factor in the costs for packaging and marketing, and you are on to a big loser. If they didn't market it then they wouldn't sell enough units, but if they did market it (e.g. TV commercials) then the cost of advertisting the NES would outstrip it's earning potential.

In terms of nostalgia, it would be great.... but Nintendo are a business and even the most nostalgic of companies aren't going to commit to a project that will lose them money.

[FABombjoy]

Well, after giving myself a headache trying to wade through the nintendo.co.jp website, it appears that there have been some strange stuff made for the Japanese market up until recently. For instance:

References to Super Famicom & Game Boy "Memory cassettes" (sound like reprogrammable multicarts) Located here (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nintendo.co.jp%2F.%2Fn09%2F.. %2Fn03%2F.%2Fmemori%2Findex.html)

Also, SFC games (created recently) named:
Metal Slader Glory Director's Cut
Super Family Computer wars
Derby star Lyon 98
and more

No direct references to Famicom stuff, but there is a page about the Disk system that doesn't make much sense (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nintendo.co.jp%2F.%2Fn09%2F.% 2Ffc_disk%2Findex.html). Something about not servicing them anymore, I think. It would help if I could read Japanese. It would also help if babelfish could too ;)

[The Manimal]

I don't know what to say about the NES really.

I haven't had a system fail yet, but I've always taken care of them. However, I wish I had not sold all my back-up units for profit.



I have a NES-001 that I received as a co-gift with a brother back in '89, so even though that's well taken care of, I doubt I can claim it as my own.

All my other units were purchased later, used.

I have 1 NES-001 console that I purchased used last year for $40. It's in VERY nice condition. That's why I bought it. I see NES systems on occasion, but they have stains on the plastic, scratches all over the body, and are very dirty. If you see a system with scratches all over it and dirt...honestly...it hasn't been taken care of. I've even seen rust on some NES A/V connections. I wasn't to hesitate when I saw the used unit last year....bought it with c.c. right away! So I only have 1 original style NES for myself...kinda scary considering I own nearly 300 games.

I also own a NES-N or whatever it is called (the top-loader, NES 2, etc). Picked it up used for $15. Works every time, but IMO it's inferior to the original by far. There's only an RF switch port and no A/V out....so the picture is worse off the bat. ALSO, the unit has this 'line' pattern across the screen on every game. From what I gather, all units are like this, and Nintendo mentions it as an interference problem. Over the years, I have bought an additional 3 or 4 top-loader NES's used for $15-20, and sold them all for around $80-110 each. Major profit, but I should have kept another one. Anyways, each and every top loader had the 'lines' problem.

[Jorpho]

References to Super Famicom & Game Boy "Memory cassettes" (sound like reprogrammable multicarts)

Not quite multicarts... If I'm not mistaken, those are the reprogrammable flash carts that can be used to download games from special vending machines.
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