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QuickSciFi
05-23-2011, 08:08 AM
According to google translate, Vanillaware (makers of Odin Sphere, Muramasa: The Demon Blade and Grim Grimoire) is hiring a C++ Programmer at 18 to 25 million yen or more PER MONTH!
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dvanillaware%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4GGHP _enUS430US430%26prmd%3Divns&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&twu=1&u=http://vanillaware.co.jp/recruit.htm&usg=ALkJrhgRQW7pbwVPcxaMTg2eh4T-lfxl6Q
That's $231,450 US dollars in the current exchange.
Icarus Moonsight
05-23-2011, 08:46 AM
18m Yen is at 220,399.20 USD and 25m Yen is now 306,111 USD. I'm guessing the "million" or "month" part is mistranslated?
portnoyd
05-23-2011, 08:48 AM
Don't doubt it, keep in mind that it's probably a fairly rigorous position to be in, tight timelines and long hours.
Icarus Moonsight
05-23-2011, 08:51 AM
Shit, for 200k a month I'll be a freaking coding hamster. They can keep me in a cage with a bottle and wheel, whole nine yards!
Flack
05-23-2011, 10:15 AM
Don't doubt it, keep in mind that it's probably a fairly rigorous position to be in, tight timelines and long hours.
Plus, if you fall behind on production, I'm pretty sure you're required to kill yourself.
jonebone
05-23-2011, 10:21 AM
I'm sure that's 80 hour work weeks, bare minimum. Very attractive salary indeed, but I'm glad to have a much more realistic salary and leave my work at work, for 40 hours a week every week.
I believe it is ¥18K - ¥25K per month, not a million, based on my limited knowledge of Japanese. So about $2200/month, or $26K a year. Not bad for a full-time fresh-from-university graduate, I suppose. But figuring JP costs are about about 2x that of US costs, just imagine that it's like living on $13K per year. :|
QuickSciFi
05-24-2011, 03:55 AM
I'm sure that's 80 hour work weeks, bare minimum. Very attractive salary indeed, but I'm glad to have a much more realistic salary and leave my work at work, for 40 hours a week every week.
It does say it's a regular 9-5 (actually, 10 to 6 ;)). It also gives you vacations. But hey, if you're going to pay me crazie moneys, I'll be like Icarus over here and work my ass off. I'll make sure they'll get what they paid for.
I believe it is ¥18K - ¥25K per month, not a million, based on my limited knowledge of Japanese. So about $2200/month, or $26K a year. Not bad for a full-time fresh-from-university graduate, I suppose. But figuring JP costs are about about 2x that of US costs, just imagine that it's like living on $13K per year. :|
I figure it's gotta be less than the purported >$2.5 million a year, but $26K is a bit on the other side of the spectrum, don't you think? Coders like these will get an easy $48K-$60K a year here in the states.
portnoyd
05-24-2011, 07:57 AM
It does say it's a regular 9-5 (actually, 10 to 6 ;)).
Every company says that whether it's true or not. The reality is no company is dumb enough to say "80 hour weeks are the norm".
Rob2600
05-24-2011, 01:33 PM
Don't doubt it, keep in mind that it's probably a fairly rigorous position to be in, tight timelines and long hours.
I doubt it very much. A programmer is extremely fortunate to make $230k a year (most make less than $100k a year). $230k a month is flat-out impossible unless you're Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, or Steve Wozniak.
Kitsune Sniper
05-24-2011, 01:54 PM
I believe it is ¥18K - ¥25K per month, not a million, based on my limited knowledge of Japanese. So about $2200/month, or $26K a year. Not bad for a full-time fresh-from-university graduate, I suppose. But figuring JP costs are about about 2x that of US costs, just imagine that it's like living on $13K per year. :|
I think this salary doesn't include overtime pay and other worker benefits. But I dunno.
j_factor
05-24-2011, 02:43 PM
Every company says that whether it's true or not. The reality is no company is dumb enough to say "80 hour weeks are the norm".
Maybe in Japan, but I see that in job listings all the time here. If a job has a lot of overtime, the company would be wasting their time not to state that up front and therefore hire someone actually willing to work long hours. Turnover is not a good thing.