Metal Gear Solid, Zone of the Enders, and Silent Hill HD Remakes coming [Archive]

Oobgarm

06-03-2011, 06:32 AM

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/02/konami-reveals-metal-gear-solid-zone-of-the-enders-silent-hill/

I know it was mentioned in the other thread, but this news is big enough that it warrants its own thread, as to not clutter up the other one.

This is simply great news. I'm ashamed to say that I never played MGS3, despite now owning 3 copies of the damn game is each of its releases. I held off on Peace Walker since I hadn't played 3 yet, considering the stories are close to each other. I really enjoyed 4, even if I missed out on some of the story that 3 provided.

I haven't played a Silent Hill game since the first one, and actually went out and grabbed 2 and 3 with the intent on playing them this year. Perhaps I'll wait now.

And I absolutely love the ZOE games. The Second Runner is one of the best PS2 games I've played, and the series as a whole is tremendously overlooked.

I'm surprised they threw this out before the show, as this is a pretty big announcement.

open your mouth

heybtbm

06-03-2011, 07:47 AM

I was surprised these are coming out for the 360. I'm hoping they end up being disc releases seeing as Microsoft has an annoying fetish for no-disc games (i.e. upcoming Halo HD re-release).

gepeto

06-03-2011, 08:05 AM

nice :)

Kitsune Sniper

06-03-2011, 08:56 AM

... Where the hell are Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid?

Please don't let this be a case of "we can't use the same voices again due to stupid rights issues".

Bojay1997

06-03-2011, 11:01 AM

Meh...While I think it's nice that the industry is starting to recognize that some of their great games have some of the same lasting appeal as classic films, I really feel disappointed that companies like Konami with great IP are putting resources into remakes of games only one generation old when they could be producing great new games. I personally have zero interest in replaying any of these games as there are just too many other great games coming out on a regular basis.

Edmond Dantes

06-03-2011, 11:05 AM

MrNelson

06-03-2011, 12:09 PM

Oooh, Metal Gear Solid HD... I might be interested if MGS2 restores the stuff that had to be nixed due to the timing of the release (such as the Big Shell levelling a part of Manhattan). Other than that I don't see much reason not to just stick with the PS2 releases, as HD isn't really that spectacular to me.

As hopeful as I am for a "Director's Cut" Version of MGS2, it would not surprise me if it's just an improved version of Substance. Regardless, I'm still going to snap this up day one, despite already owning MGS2, MGS3, and Peace Walker.

hbkprm

06-03-2011, 01:20 PM

im so looking forward to mgs and zone of the enders hd collections

Frankie_Says_Relax

06-03-2011, 02:51 PM

A wild Mega64 appears with related trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flK748GogoA&feature=youtu.be

Kitsune Sniper

06-03-2011, 03:36 PM

Even better, a Japanese version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uWxISpfzCw

Emperor Megas

06-03-2011, 04:30 PM

I'll definitely grab those HD Silent Hill re-releases.

Kellhus

06-03-2011, 08:26 PM

I will get the Metal Gear Solid Collection because I'm a huge fan, and possibly the Silent Hill Collection because I think it would look very good in HD. I think it's funny Silent Hill 4 isn't in the collection.

wingzrow

06-03-2011, 09:10 PM

I wonder if I should throw my copies online now. I wish we had more info, if "born from a wish" from silent hill 2 isn't included ile keep my copy of 2.

NayusDante

06-03-2011, 10:48 PM

The screenshots show that the actual models aren't being enhanced, but I'm still really interested in this. To me, it's worth it for 16:9 presentation and digital surround sound.

substantial_snake

06-04-2011, 01:34 AM

Kitsune Sniper

06-04-2011, 02:00 AM

I will definitely be picking up both the ZOE and Metal Gear collections. I at one point owned all of these titles but traded them in for more games due to being a teenager with no cash. ;)

Although I doubt it I hope that the MGS collections are the substance and subsistence versions of both games. I had never played the MSX versions of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake but I heard it was included in the "special" edition of Snake Eater. It would be icing on the cake if they were included with the remastered MGS 3.

Uh, considering they rereleased them in the MGS collection a while back, they'll definitely go with the special editions of all games.

I doubt they'll include the old MGS games. Knowing Konami they'll probably include them with the original. I hope. Or sell them separately just to milk a bit more money from the fans.

duffmanth

06-04-2011, 10:03 AM

Oobgarm

06-04-2011, 11:08 AM

I was thrilled when I read this yesterday! I'm all over the MGS and Silent Hill remakes, could care a less about ZOE. Why Konami wouldn't remake the original MGS is beyond me? Maybe cuz they remade it on the Cube?

Something is likely planned for that separately since next year is the 25th anniversary of the franchise as a whole.

LiquidPolicenaut

06-04-2011, 11:40 AM

Yeah, I'll probably wind up getting the MGS and ZOE HD packages. Even though I wanted it, I still knew they weren't gonna include MGS1 since these arent full remakes just upgrades, kind of like the God of War Collection on the PS3, and the graphics are upped in resolution and some 2D art is enhanced.

One question though if anyone can answer: When they announced the PSP Remaster series for the PS3, they said you would be able to use your PSP save data on the new PS3 release so, for example, if I already beat God of War Ghost of Sparta on my PSP, I could transfer that save over and start with all my maxed out stats on the PS3. Now, with this announcement for the MGS port, will I still be able to use my Peace Walker PSP save on the PS3 game....or have I just misread the original news release?

Kitsune Sniper

06-04-2011, 11:51 AM

Nope, that means you can take your save game and keep going with it on the other system. When you're done with that one, you transfer it back to your other system.

It's pretty much explained in the Mega64 trailer.

kupomogli

06-04-2011, 11:59 AM

Transfarring. Stupid name added to take credit from something that's already going to be possible between the released games and the other devices.

I hope with the Zone of Enders HD Collection we get a Zone of Enders 3. And hopefully it doesn't suck.

Oobgarm

06-04-2011, 01:14 PM

A wild Mega64 appears with related trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flK748GogoA&feature=youtu.be

This was incredible. LOL

eskobar

06-04-2011, 01:48 PM

It will be a pleasure to play Silent Hill 2 in HD .... and with trophy support =D

substantial_snake

06-05-2011, 06:47 AM

I doubt they'll include the old MGS games. Knowing Konami they'll probably include them with the original. I hope. Or sell them separately just to milk a bit more money from the fans.

I wouldn't consider it milking if it was a full remake of Metal Gear Solid. I would rather see the original game rebuilt then to get an upscaled version of the Twin Snakes..wasn't a fan of the cutscenes in that version or the inclusion of FPS mode.

One thing that did nag at me a bit was the exclusion of Portable Ops in this collection. I know that Peace Walker was more or less PO 2.0 but the game was still an enjoyable experience.

Nebagram

06-05-2011, 06:54 AM

Yeah, I'm going to be all over all of these, even though I own pretty much every post-1997 MG & SH titles (even the portable ones).

substantial_snake

08-13-2011, 11:07 PM

So it was confirmed recently that the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection will be based off the Subsistence and Substance versions of 3 and 2 and that Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake will be included with the package.

On the same note in the Japanese release they are going to get a download voucher for MGS1 and instead of that here we are getting an upscale version of Peace Walker hopefully with online capabilities...which I really don't think is a bad trade.

http://www.geek.com/articles/games/metal-gear-solid-hd-collection-includes-original-metal-gear-solid-in-japan-only-20110813/

Kitsune Sniper

08-14-2011, 12:46 AM

Okay. THAT. Is awesome.

MGS1 can be purchased off PSN pretty cheaply anyway, and I doubt there'll be trophies for it. I can live with Peace Walker instead of MGS1. Now what about Portable Ops / Acid?

substantial_snake

08-14-2011, 03:12 AM

I personally couldn't care less about the inclusion of MGS1 in this package if this is the way they are going to do it (isan't it a 10 dollar download now anyways?), loved peace walker and its cool to see that more people are going to get to play it. Trophies aren't mentioned for MGS1 in Kojima's twitter feed so I doubt it as well, however support is confirmed for MGS2 and 3 for all the trophy/achievement whores out there. :p

Its too bad that Portable Ops isan't in this package since its a canon and fun entry in the series. Hopefully, if this sells well, this will lead to a "Metal Gear Solid GEMS Collection" with Portalbe Ops, Ac!d 1, 2, and Metal Gear Ghost Babel.

Leo_A

08-14-2011, 04:12 AM

Trophies aren't mentioned for MGS1 in Kojima's twitter feed so I doubt it as well

Japan is just getting a download voucher to get the PSN download of MGS1, so trophy support was never in the cards.

Patney

08-14-2011, 09:49 AM

I hope for Japans sake that they get Peace Walker too, I don't get why they wouldn't. PW is the reason I'm excited for this at all, I never could bother with playing it on a cramped PSP.

heybtbm

08-14-2011, 10:18 AM

My interest dropped a bit when I saw these are all going for $50. Typical Konami greed. Even Sony and Ubisoft have the sense to release their HD re-releases at $30-40.

Kitsune Sniper

08-14-2011, 12:17 PM

My interest dropped a bit when I saw these are all going for $50. Typical Konami greed. Even Sony and Ubisoft have the sense to release their HD re-releases at $30-40.

... What?

You're getting five games. Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, MGS2 Substance, MGS3 Subsistence, and Peace Walker.

The other rereleases have two to three games.

TL;DR... stop complaining. This is still a hell of a deal.

Edit: I realize my comment was a bit condescending, and apologize. It's still a decent price for all those games.

Bojay1997

08-14-2011, 12:51 PM

... What?

You're getting five games. Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, MGS2 Substance, MGS3 Subsistence, and Peace Walker.

The other rereleases have two to three games.

TL;DR... stop complaining. This is still a hell of a deal.

Edit: I realize my comment was a bit condescending, and apologize. It's still a decent price for all those games.

I don't agree. These are all relatively dated games with the exception of Peace Walker and unlike most $50-$60 releases, the bulk of the development costs have long since been covered and they use a very small team to do the upgrades needed to the graphics engine. This should have been a $30-$40 package.

Leo_A

08-14-2011, 06:39 PM

... What?

You're getting five games. Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, MGS2 Substance, MGS3 Subsistence, and Peace Walker.

Two of those games are MSX releases from the 1980's. While my interest in this primarily stems from wanting to play those two games, that isn't the case for most people. To most people, that's just bonus content that they'll maybe look at for 2 minutes someday.

For the vast majority of individuals that purchase this release, this is a three game collection. It should be released at a budget price just like these other HD upgrades have been.

The 1 2 P

08-14-2011, 06:52 PM

I'm surprised that the MGS collection is coming to 360 but I also don't care. The one I wanted was the Silent Hill collection. I know I can just get it for my PS3 but I'd rather have a 360 version with achievements. I'm picking up the second GOW collection for my PS3 and the Halo remake for my 360 but I prefer my third party games on the 360. Hopefully Konami comes to their senses.

GameNinja

08-15-2011, 04:45 PM

Super happy about ZoE coming, I too loved the original (never got the play the second, but it is on my list!) and ironically ZoE was the first PS2 game I ever played, and I played it for hours in a Circuit City while my parents were buying a TV. It was kind of a magical night...

DP ServBot

08-16-2011, 12:20 PM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2011/08/zone816.jpg (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/16/hideo-kojima-tweets-zoe-3ds-logo/) Prolific Twitter user and occasional game designer Hideo Kojima posted the above picture last night on his Twitter account, saying only, "Found this at Omori-kun's desk. What's this?" Yes, the Jehuty figure is pretty breathtaking, but something even more interesting can be found behind it: a "Z.O.E. 3DS" logo, with the "3DS" a subtle alteration of the mirrored ZOE logo. Part of another logo can be seen to the left, revealing "...bis: 2" That is perhaps a reference to Anubis, the Japanese name for Zone of the Enders 2.

This ZOE logo could be anything: a ported Zone of the Enders game for 3DS (like Metal Gear Solid 3D: Snake Eater (http://joystiq.com/game/metal-gear-solid-3d-snake-eater)); a new sequel (as in "Zone of the Enders 3" in the west and "Anubis: 2" in Japan); or a canceled project that never made it past the "really cool logo" stage. Furthermore, Kojima could just be messing with his followers.http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif (http://www.joystiq.com)Hideo Kojima tweets 'ZOE 3DS' logo (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/08/16/hideo-kojima-tweets-zoe-3ds-logo/) originally appeared on Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com) on Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:15:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds (http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/).

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wingzrow

08-17-2011, 08:06 PM

Patney

08-17-2011, 08:26 PM

All of them sounds so soulless - the kind of voices PSX jrpgs with a low budget had. I will always remember Mary with her innocent and sort of frail voice, this sounds too generic. I don't get why they are doing this... Perhaps it was impossible to reuse the original voices in 5.1 for some reason?

Either way, :bawling:

heybtbm

08-17-2011, 08:27 PM

Looks like i'm not getting the HD collection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX1GFlbICWw

Holy shitballs. Thank god I didn't sell my greatest hits version of 2, that sounded HORRIBLE.

The original dubb of james had a very relatable voice that you could connect with, the new voices all try too hard to be dramatic. I wanted to play silent hill2 & 3 in hD...but now...fuck it

Konami did the same thing with Castlevania: SOTN in Dracula X Chronicles. They erased from history THE most iconic video game voice track of all time. No respect for the past. It's a George Lucas move.

In other news: Silent Hill HD is now on 360 and $40. My interest is rising. Still is a joke that they're unable to put Silent Hill 1 or MGS on either compilation. Kind of like how The Orange Box felt incomplete without the original Half-Life.

Patney

08-17-2011, 08:32 PM

Silent Hill in HD would only be silly, but yeah, it could at least include a download voucher for the PSN release. I still don't get why they won't include Silent Hill 4 though, are they ashamed of it? It was the worst of the four but still managed to be incredible in some ways, they really had some original ideas!

Emperor Megas

08-17-2011, 08:42 PM

Wow, I hope that they have an option for the original voices as well. I know that they won't though. The thing is, these types of compilations are for the fans; no one else who hasn't played these games by now cares, but the fans aren't going to appreciate things like changing the voices. :|

This is definitely a disappointment. I'm probably the biggest Silent Hill fan (the original three) you'll ever meet, and I'll still purchase these, but I really wish that they left the original voice overs alone, or at least used the same voice actors.

Silent Hill in HD would only be silly, but yeah, it could at least include a download voucher for the PSN release. I still don't get why they won't include Silent Hill 4 though, are they ashamed of it? It was the worst of the four but still managed to be incredible in some ways, they really had some original ideas!They should be ashamed. It was awful that they actually put the Silent Hill name on that game. I may have actually given it more of a chance if they just kept it whatever game it was originally going to be. It just wasn't Silent Hill.

Patney

08-17-2011, 08:54 PM

I agree, it wasn't Silent Hill and should've just been named "The Room" or whatever. Still, I'm not one to completely disregard a game just because of the title.

The 1 2 P

08-17-2011, 09:07 PM

I have Silent Hill 4 but haven't played it. I did play a demo of it back in the day but didn't leave with a very high opinion of that experience.

In other news: Silent Hill HD is now on 360 and $40. My interest is rising.

Finally some good news. I'm not sure why they wouldn't release it for the 360 in the first place. I know that the majority of the HD remake packages have been coming out for the PS3 and I really don't mind since I have most of those games anyway. But every now and then they are bound to release something that should come out for both systems.

Emperor Megas

08-18-2011, 01:56 AM

I agree, it wasn't Silent Hill and should've just been named "The Room" or whatever. Still, I'm not one to completely disregard a game just because of the title.It wasn't just the title of the game though. They tried to tie the game to Silent Hill and pass it off as a canon installment to the series. That ruined it for me. There are certain things about Silent Hill which are series mainstays. Unlimited item management, the other world, the white noise when enemies are close, etc..

Take the whole limited items deal in The Room. The reason that you can carry unlimited items in previous Silent Hill games is probably because in reality, you aren't actually carrying them at all. Most of the things that happen in Silent Hill are happening in the protagonist's mind, or are a distortion from what's actually going on in the real world. It's hard for me to accept that it's the same ominous force that traps Henry in his room in part 4 that also lures sinners like James to Silent Hill in other installments.

Slapping the Silent Hill name on a game that's clearly NOT a Silent Hill game was just a sloppy thing to do. It creates and fails to meet certain expectations by calling itself a Silent Hill game, and really sent the series into a nose dive.

substantial_snake

08-18-2011, 03:13 AM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2011/08/zone816.jpg

*sigh*

I am such a dirty dirty whore for Kojima...

I know that now with my fresh 3DS, which I did not expect I would be buying at all, I am going to be compelled to buy both the ZOE and MGS collections along with their 3DS counterparts...I feel dirty. No matter weather its a remake, remix, or new title I want to buy them, these both been some of my favorite franchises.

Kitsune Sniper

08-18-2011, 08:50 AM

Didn't Capcom have some rights problems with VOICE ACTING with some of their PS1 games, so they can't rerelease them?

Wonder if that's what's going on here.

hbkprm

08-18-2011, 02:11 PM

http://www.facebook.com/media/albums/?id=285152375985#!/media/set/?set=a.10150261507900986.330979.285152375985&type=1

Patney

08-18-2011, 03:39 PM

It's impossible to differentiate those screenshots from the regular PS2 version due to facebook standards...

jaekwon15

08-19-2011, 09:54 AM

I was able to get a pre order in for the Ultimate HD Collection: Metal Gear Solid. In case you are not familiar with the item, it is a ps3 collection and world exclusive to Zavvi (a store in the UK.) It comes with a voucher for MGS and a disc version of MGS4. The tin case it comes in is numbered as there are only 4k copies available world wide. As a bonus, the game comes with 5 art cards.

It sold out on Zavvi dot com in a matter of hours. With only 4k copies being made, I believe this will be a good collectible in the future.