E3 2011 - General Thread

[Enigmus]

E3 kicks off this week with Sony and Microsoft, with Nintendo the day after.

So, with that being said, overall speculation, anyone?
PS3 has no network, lolololol- oh, hi, Kupo.

[kupomogli]

What's wrong with this thread?

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154189

[Enigmus]

What's wrong with this thread?

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154189

Forgot about that. Me bad.

[Oobgarm]

One thing is for sure, the new Modern Warfare and Tomb Raider games look great based on what they've shown of the gameplay.

And if today's "leak" is solid, then we'll see Halo 4 before this media briefing is over.

[Oobgarm]

Ghost Recon's gun customization using Kinect looks incredible.

[kupomogli]

Halo 4. Booooo.

*edit*

Seriously though. The Microsoft conference, in my opinion, sucked again. Just like last years it based almost the last few years it was based mostly on multiplatform titles. I knew Modern Warfare 3 was going to show, just like last years Black Ops and the previous years Modern Warfare 2, etc.

Forza 4 looks great and if I didn't have to pay for XBL to play online then I'd be picking that up once I purchase a 360 Slim.

Also was just watching Skyrim(didn't see it on the Microsoft conference, not sure if it was on it.) Looks amazing.

[Oobgarm]

Positives:

Modern Warfare 3
Tomb Raider
Forza 4
Gears 3

Neutral:

Ryse
Halo 4
Fable Journeys

Negatives:

Too much Kinect gimmickry. It might be the "second wave", but it's hard to tell it apart from the first.

[The 1 2 P]

While I too thought that there was alittle too much Kinect casual games, that is Microsoft's new market and they will continue to expand on it. But the Halo 4 announcement was a nice surprise. I knew about Halo Anniversary but that is going to really conjest this holiday season. Between Halo: Anniversary, Modern Warfare 3, Battlefield 3 and Gears of War 3--the 360 will once again be the place to be for the best shooters. Unfortunantly, that also means that hardcore shooter fans like myself have to decide the best way to split our time.

I'm also pretty pumped about the live tv coming to XBL. My only concern is how much will it cost. And from the video they showed it looks like we'll be able to order future UFC pay per views directly from our 360 and then interact thru out the night during each fight with Kinect(probably a regular controller as well). They finally appeared to put some pretty practical uses for Kinect in more core games(Mass Effect 3, Ghost Recon, Forza 4, etc.).

I'm a bit dissappointed there was no mention of the new Alan Wake game or Gears of War kinect. I guess they are saving those two for another time or another show.

[RASK1904]

Ghost Recon's gun customization looks incredible.
This. Fixxed. Not to into the kidnex.

Also Skyrim has it's own showing Wed. @ 5pm! Can't f'n wait!

[kupomogli]

EA has spent over five minutes showing off FIFA 12. Now Madden 12. EA has the worst.

Nevermind. EA has redeemed themselves with the Battlefield 3 showing.

[substantial_snake]

I was underwhelmed by the Ghost Recon presentation. I don't see how the voice command weapon upgrade system is any improvement on a similar system with a UI interface, I applaud the innovation but in this instance it doesn't seem to add anything. (other then the look at what Kinect can do tag then can add to the box) Also if the move and sharpshooter have taught me anything playing a shooter in an standing crouched position gets old really fast.

[Dobie]

Microsoft seriously disappointed. 2 hours of Kinect, none of it will be anything I buy (except Sesame Street for my daughter). They spent longer on that stupid Disneyland game than they did on Halo Anniversary or Gears 3. Any new IP was Kinect-centric. MS has abandoned their core audience, much like Nintendo did. Like Nintendo did, MS will find they shift a LOT of Kinect units, they but won't sell squat for software.

Oh, and seriously... ANOTHER freaking dashboard redesign? THAT'S what they come to E3 with?

[Gamereviewgod]

I love how they've completely ignored the Live Arcade two years in a row now to ensure that we have to suffer through more, "simulated families." I mean, do they thing ANYONE buys this crap as legit? It's so phoned in and painful, probably because they actually can't find any of the general populace who squats in front of their TV yelling, "hut hut!" while playing a football game.

Yay for Halo 4 as a fan, COD looks like COD but impressively scaled, and I love Gears macho attitude. Anything using that camera though? Could care less.

Oh, and why is the Mass Effect 3 voice command a big deal with EndWar and Lifeline already did it?

[Enigmus]

So far, Ubisoft's bi-winning. Can't wait for Rayman. :)

[heybtbm]

Battlefield 3 and Skyrim both look amazing. I can see myself dedicating my entire gaming time to just those two titles for months. I love the guy from Bethesda saying that Skyrim will take more than 300 hours to do everything. Actually he said they stopped counting after 300 hours. Can't f'ing wait.

Halo 4...Master Chief back after 5 years...very exciting. Really interested in Nintendo's press conference tomorrow too.

[Oobgarm]

Uncharted 3 looks mind-blowingly amazing.

[Oobgarm]

Shadow of Colossus and ICO Collection in September. YES.

[The 1 2 P]

Watching a dude wearing 3D glasses while holding a pink ice cream cone is hilarious for all the wrong reasons.

I'm definitely going to be picking up that God of War Psp collection since I don't have a Psp and haven't played either game yet.

[mattimeo310]

I did not enjoy how they kicked off with the Uncharted 3 demo, I felt it was really bland and all the melee animations seemed to be ripped directly from Uncharted 2. Please stop pretending that people actually care about PS Move also. I can't believe that the first game they used to show it off was a generic sports title.

Anyone else notice that Star Trek looked exactly like Mass Effect?

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Holy CRAP the Mod Nation track creation tools on the Vita look amazingly intuitive.

And all the PS3 community created Mod Nation content will be available on Mod Nation for Vita on day one? Sweet.

[Oobgarm]

PlayStation Vita for $249.99? Day one sold.

[The 1 2 P]

$249 and $299. The Vita is going to give the 3DS some serious competition.

[kupomogli]

Uncharted 3 looked amazing. PS Vita and Uncharted on that loosk great. These will all be day one buys for me. Ruin for the PS Vita looked really good so I'll probably end up getting that as well.

There was also a really good looking game at the end of the PS Vita montage that looked really good too. A beat em up. I don't really like beat em ups much, but this looked fairly good. I could be mistaken what I was watching though since again it was a montage.

Seriously. Sony had the best E3. They had a few crappy parts like NBA 2k12, but other than that a really solid E3. I also liked how instead of giving a lot of third parties the entire time, they chose just a couple, and then for EA they just listed all the games because EA already shown their conference.

[Oobgarm]

But no Last Guardian, I am disappoint.

[The 1 2 P]

And no Syphon Filter, either a new PS3 version or an HD bundle of older titles. That dissappoints me. All in all I found it to be a pretty boring 2 hours. There was no big surprises or wow moments. Now onto Nintendo's conference tomorrow.

[Orion Pimpdaddy]

I was actually impressed with the Kinect games they showed, especially Star Wars. I like how the guy picked up the space ship by raising his hand, Yoda style.

[heybtbm]

Anyone else notice that Star Trek looked exactly like Mass Effect?

Bioware should be proud. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Star Trek has always been a "Me too!", 2nd-tier franchise. Why would the video games be any different?

[NayusDante]

Microsoft's keynote did not interest me, but that's how it goes every year. Shooters, sports, and kids games. Star Wars Kinect looks like it's for the younger generation. Not sure how I feel about the man who did Day of the Tentacle and Full Throttle handling Sesame Street... TV on 360 might be neat, but I'm bothered that they've redone their interface *again*. Once I finish Blue Dragon and Infinite Undiscovery, I don't think there's anything left for me to bother with on their platform.

Sony's keynote is, as always, what I expect from an E3 keynote. Still not great, but better. Dust 514 looks interesting, as does Starhawk, but I wouldn't pre-order either. Street Fighter X Tekken sounded neat before, but now that I see it, meh. Still looking forward to Ico collection, but I think my excitement for Sony's announcements ends there.


The 24" TV bundle at $499 strikes me as a ripoff. If I were going to buy a 3D display that small, I'd get a 3D computer monitor. If you're sitting at a desk, it sounds perfect, but I don't think it's going to sell very well outside of the college dorm demographic. For $499, you can get a pretty decent non-3D TV or a heck of a nice desktop monitor. If Sony can put out a 3D monitor aimed at PS3 owners for $299, it might make sense.

The Vita looks like a nice piece of hardware, and it's priced right. Nintendo has a lot of room for price drops on the 3DS, and I would be surprised if it's still over $180 this holiday season. If Nintendo doesn't get a killer app for the platform or give it a competitive price, the Vita wins this handheld generation. Or at least, the Vita wins what's left after tablets and alternative devices eat the market. It needs games, though, I haven't seen anything I'd be remotely interested in.

So far, Microsoft fails, Sony barely passes. It looks like Nintendo has to step in and win E3. Again.

[Press_Start]

Here's my Sony recap:

Uncharted 3, shooter, gray shooter, 3D TV!, shooter, shooter with move, brown shooter, shooter, shooter, vita!, shooters on vita!

Oh yeah I forgot NBA!

But Vita @ $250 tells me Sony serious want to go toe-to-toe with 3DS. Christmas '11 will an interesting time for handheld lovers. :D

[wingzrow]

EVERYTHING was a shooter, so underwhelmed right now. Hopefully NINTENDO pulls through and announced non shooting games.

[Gentlegamer]

My take away from the Microsoft conference:

With the power of Kinect, you can turn your Xbox into the OnRailsBox.

*FIST BUMP*

*facepalm*

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/Gentlegamer/futuramas02e08001kinecweyi.gif

[figure8Atej]

The only Kinect game I liked was Star Wars. Everything else seemed like it was made for kids.
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[Gentlegamer]

A concise summary of the Ubisoft conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5C5hCypT64

[Zama]

My take away from the Microsoft conference:

With the power of Kinect, you can turn your Xbox into the OnRailsBox.

*FIST BUMP*

*facepalm*

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d173/Gentlegamer/futuramas02e08001kinecweyi.gif

Sadly, I felt the same way :)

Anyway, I'm saving up my money for that juicy Playstation Vita xD

[Swamperon]

As previous peeps have said, that PSV price point is going to give the 3DS some serious competition. I'm guessing Nintendo are wishing they hadn't priced it intentionally so high. Still, the 3DS software and 6 month lead is bound to help.

It amuses me that the 5th playstation hardware release (counting different iterations of the same console as the same) has the acronym of PSV.

Just seen the Tomb Raider trailer. I never really cared for the series but damn that was a nice trailer! If the gameplay holds up I may just jump on board.

I'm loving that Rayman: Origins has a Tetris themed (at least partly) level! Think I may have to pick that up in the future.

[portnoyd]

A concise summary of the Ubisoft conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5C5hCypT64

Considerably better than anything shown at any press conference thus far, except for Uncharted 3.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Vita $250 MSRP - betterthanexpected.jpg
Nothing but FPS games - FUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuu!

Somebody better get their game shit straight, and soon. Otherwise, I'm pretty much completely out of current gaming for a while. 'The Cafe' better deliver.

[portnoyd]

If the Cafe delivers the same library as the Wii (first person titles, good, 99% of everything else, shit), then it may be the first Nintendo system I don't get at launch since the SNES.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Nothing terribly "thrilling" from either camp so far.

TV service on XBL seems like a good feature, but I'll need more info on what it offers above/beyond the massive cable package I already subscribe to + Netflix + my various web enabled set-top boxes (read: probably not much).

Where Kinect offerings are concerned - I'm still sadly prevented from even becoming a part of the Kinect ownership crowd based on the fact that my living room doesn't permit the appropriate/proper space for functionality.

So even if I WANTED to jump around with that, I'll have to stick with my Wiimotes and Move wands that don't require a 6-foot range and no giant coffee tables in the way of the gaming space.

As a Move owner I'm glad to see that Sony is continuing to support it and 3rd parties are involved in furthering the cause. It's excellent motion controller technology, so there's no need to cut the cord on it anytime soon.

Vita looks pretty fantastic all-around (though that home menu screen with the apps in bubbles may need to go at some point) and it has a great price point. I'm in day one for that. Standard Wi-Fi version is fine for me.

Looking forward to whatever Nintendo has to offer. They have plenty of room to upstage, so let us see where they go!

[BetaWolf47]

Vita looks good, BioShock Infinite looks awesome (love the art style and atmosphere), and the concept behind that TV is awesome. Two players on the same TV without splitting the screen in half? That's an amazing concept for a gaming TV.

Vita has the same launch price as the PSP did. They can get away with it this time thanks to Nintendo wanting $250 for the 3DS. So far, Vita looks better in every way bar not being 3D.

[NayusDante]

The problem with multiple-viewer full-screen 3D is that the framerate is going to be cut in half. It's also a step further away from standardization of 3D hardware...

[Oobgarm]

Wii U? The U stands for Underwhelming.

[rroden12]

Anyone else see them draw the Dreamcast logo on one of the Tekken character's faces?

[Enigmus]

All I have to say is, is that Nintendo just won over E3. I expected a lot of the things shown by MS and Sony, but N's conference today was like getting rear-ended by a semi at night in terms of surprise. Bravo, Ninty. :)

[BetaWolf47]

Wii U looks like a GamePark system.

http://img.engadget.com/common/images/9524208218786287.JPG?0.5964280223431971

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Dear lord that controller is huge.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Wii U? The U stands for Underwhelming.

Revolution becomes Wii - Cafe becomes Wii U. Just added a letter to an existing product... They are turning into Apple. O_O

Also, they're obviously serious about staying up on top. They're even willing to make a deal with EA, otherwise known as, the devil.

All that aside, I'm going to buy the damn thing. It's certain now.

[kupomogli]

When it comes to the ease of use, the Nintendo's "Wii U" controller is probably the worst "traditional" controller designs ever developed. You know how uncomfortable that's going to be controlling most games that utilize all buttons? Never going to buy an Armored Core on that system, that's for certain.

Other than that. It's a somewhat decent idea. As the console itself can be used as both a portable console as well as home console. You're going to a friends and want to play the Wii U? Take it with you. It's a hit against both consoles and portables as it's both, but the only draw is that it still has to be hooked up to a power outlet more than likely. I'll be buying one so I can use Wii U, Wii, and GC games on a single console. I really wonder how many people will purchase this after how overhyped and how much of a disappointment the Wii was.

[Bojay1997]

All I have to say is, is that Nintendo just won over E3. I expected a lot of the things shown by MS and Sony, but N's conference today was like getting rear-ended by a semi at night in terms of surprise. Bravo, Ninty. :)

How so? I want all the 3DS games and Zelda for the Wii, but where were the new Wii games? Where were the new DS games for that matter or even the new games for the WiiU? The best they could do was an announcement of a new Lego game? The WiiU looks like a bulky oversized piece of unecessary hardware. I'm also not exactly clear what the "console" actually is. Based on the fact that they only showed a Wii on its side and a longer bar above the TV, it appears that the remote is in fact the console and it basically streams video output to the TV in HD, essentially making it a glorified sling box. It also appears that only one can be used at a time with the other players having to use the Wii controllers, so why would one player get a screen and not the others? I'm sorry, but Nintendo really lost me with this one.

[NayusDante]

I need to see some decent videos of this thing, preferably a download-version of that bird and koi demo. If that's real-time rendering at 1080p, I'm impressed.

Wiimote compatibility is an excellent move. I'm guessing the WiiU controller is going to run $80+, but everyone's already got a few Wiimotes sitting around.

Again though, game lineup doesn't impress me (yet). What they showed looked pretty rough, not much visual polish. Tekken looks pretty undetailed.

I need to see hardware specs. The E3.Nintendo.com site is down for me.


Note that Iwata clarified what the controller is. There's no processing hardware in it, and it does not function independently from the console.

I know it echoes the Wii announcement, but I'm disappointed that we didn't see an actual console on display. The GameSpot feed was kinda blocky, but it looked like a Wii with the front end rounded off and a somewhat more open disc slot. Kind of looked like the Retro Duo...

[NayusDante]

Ah, here we go (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/06/the-is-the-first-picture-of-nintendos-new-console-the-wii-u/).

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/06/medium_new_nintendo_console_detail_01.jpg

[Bojay1997]

When it comes to the ease of use, the Nintendo's "Wii U" controller is probably the worst "traditional" controller designs ever developed. You know how uncomfortable that's going to be controlling most games that utilize all buttons? Never going to buy an Armored Core on that system, that's for certain.

Other than that. It's a somewhat decent idea. As the console itself can be used as both a portable console as well as home console. You're going to a friends and want to play the Wii U? Take it with you. It's a hit against both consoles and portables as it's both, but the only draw is that it still has to be hooked up to a power outlet more than likely. I'll be buying one so I can use Wii U, Wii, and GC games on a single console. I really wonder how many people will purchase this after how overhyped and how much of a disappointment the Wii was.

Actually, it's not that simple. It has to be in contact with some kind of base station at all times, so it's not portable at all other than within the range of your TV/base station. In theory, I suppose if they make it Wi-Fi compatible, if you had access to your home station through remote access, it could be pretty portable. Although, that would really just make it a lot more like a Slingbox.

[Oobgarm]

Only things Nintendo surprised me with and therefore sold me on is that there's going to be a new Smash Bros. game, and as strange as it sounds, Lego City Adventures could end up being a lot of fun.

So I guess they sold me on the new console there, but it was due to the strength of the software...it certainly wasn't due to all of the things they touted about the controller. It's not really bringing anything revolutionary to the table, as the Vita will be doing the big -> small screen stuff too. Most of us here likely have dedicated displays for our gaming.

I think it's the bastard child of a DSiXL and a VMU.

I knew I was going to get a 3DS when Mario and Kid Icarus dropped, but I knew they were coming, so those were anti-climactic for me.

And I think I'm the only person(besides VACRMH) who just doesn't care for Zelda post-SNES.

[WCP]

This has to be one of the least exciting e3's in recent memory. I was really hyped coming into this e3, knowing that Nintendo had new hardware, and thinking that maybe... just maybe, Microsoft would show a sneak peak at some new hardware, but man....


Normally, when you watch these e3 conferences, you'll see a trailer for a brand new megaton type game that nobody knew about. Something like a Half-Life 3 or a GTA V or something. I mean, sure... we know that those games are going to be made, but still, had they had Gabe Newell or the Houser brothers walk on stage for any one of these press conferences, then it would have been a huge deal. Or maybe if they had key members of Bungie walk on stage at the PS3 conference to show off their new multiplatform game. Or maybe have West and Zampella come out and show off Respawn Entertainments new game.

But no.... Nada....


The most exciting thing that I saw at all 3 press conferences was the fact that there is a new Sly Cooper game coming :)





Only thing Nintendo surprised me with and therefore sold me on is that there's going to be a Smash Bros. game.



Yeah, I was shocked when I got out of bed today and saw that the sun was shining. j/k

[heybtbm]

The U controller is the most ridiculous gaming device I've seen in years...possibly ever. Who the hell wants to hold on to that thing? Nintendo repeatedly mentioned how all Wii accessories would work with the Wii U...no kidding! No one will be using that monstrosity after an hour or so. God, what an embarrassment. Can't wait to see the Nintendo Mafia spin this one positive. Absolutely awful.

Hey everybody...I have a low-rez iPad that can't be used more than 15 feet away from my TV. It's the future! Lol.

[NayusDante]

I'm just worried about the 3DS. I really don't see what's going to carry it through the next few years. After seeing the Vita, the low resolution looks terrible in comparison. Worse than comparing DS to PSP.

[Baloo]

Other than that. It's a somewhat decent idea. As the console itself can be used as both a portable console as well as home console. You're going to a friends and want to play the Wii U? Take it with you. It's a hit against both consoles and portables as it's both, but the only draw is that it still has to be hooked up to a power outlet more than likely. I'll be buying one so I can use Wii U, Wii, and GC games on a single console. I really wonder how many people will purchase this after how overhyped and how much of a disappointment the Wii was.

No, you are mistaken. The Wii U tablet isn't portable, it merely functions with the console (Which they only showed a little bit of on E3.Nintendo.com right after the conference). You can't take it with you.

With that being said, why is everyone hating on the Wii U opening lineup? They announced Smash Bros, Ninja Gaiden 3, Darkstalkers 2, Lego City, New Super Mario Bros, I mean it's not awful.

Only thing about is wondering how much the Wii U is going to cost. Looks very impressive though.

3DS is going to rock though, I think that was definitely the thing I want to get the most from Nintendo. Super Mario, Smash Bros, Luigi's Mansion 2, Kid Icarus, Starfox, definitely going to be an exciting system!

[RCM]

They should call it "Wii-Ping" (as in, weeping) for all the dedicated Nintendo fans The Big N loves to stomp. All three main pressers didn't offer much to me, but Nintendo's direction is most troubling and unnecessary. Replacement controllers will probably be pretty expensive.

It seems like all three console makers, esp. Sony and Nintendo are operating in a vacuum. They just don't want to acknowledge that the traditional market is receding in the face of social games and app games.

[heybtbm]

I'm just worried about the 3DS. I really don't see what's going to carry it through the next few years. After seeing the Vita, the low resolution looks terrible in comparison. Worse than comparing DS to PSP.

The 3DS should be alright for two reasons IMO...

1.) Superior 1st party software
2.) Major price cut (if it happens)

[NayusDante]

So was Skyward Sword the only Wii game they mentioned? I suppose it's time for the abrupt end of the platform, Wii hardly knew thee.

I have a feeling that I'll be selling my Wii and 360 to buy a WiiU at launch, assuming the price isn't terrible. If it's backwards compatible, I doubt there will be any reason to keep a Wii. Worst case, it's not GCN compatible, and I finally have a reason to buy that darn component cable.

[Icarus Moonsight]

I'm not coming to the same conclusions. I'm actually not coming to many, because we haven't gotten anything substantial about the thing yet. Also, remember that they held back features of the Wii right up to a few months before launch. Who knows what they are holding back? What they did show was their software game showing potential for better form, that's the point I wanted to see most. Also, obviously for some games I'm sure you can use the Wii classic controller and skip the lap screen.

Best thing is, right as Sony and MS are busy playing catch-up to what's been done, they're moving on and bring their last emergent thing with for the ride. A+ on that account. All these things being standard while still being optional was important for the direction. It's ballsy, and I like it.

Now, they just have to stay the path and get more (3rds) on board... Bring some PS3/360 titles over, but resist the urge to go port mad. Just the key stuff, leave the rest.

[Enigmus]

Went into N's E3 press site (thanks /v/) and found out that Kirby Wii is still set in stone, along with Mario Party 9 for Wii. There's even ZIP files full of pictures, along with info sheets.

EDIT: There's also a Mystery Case Files and Rhythm Heaven for Wii.

EDIT 2: There's also a pack of info for Kirby: Mass Attack for DS (announced today).

[NayusDante]

The new Zapper might be the best thing to ever happen to the console shooter.

Think about games like Uncharted, where third-person platforming is combined with fine-control aiming on a held trigger. This removes the need for switching modes, you just switch your glance to the controller screen and aim naturally. Assuming that the platforming controls are comfortable and the motion sensing is better than the 3DS, this should be the best way to play a shooter on the couch.

[NayusDante]

The U controller is the most ridiculous gaming device I've seen in years...possibly ever. Who the hell wants to hold on to that thing?

Think about the size for a minute, I just realized it's smaller than you think it is.

Hold a PSP. That's a 5" screen. Add about an inch to the width and make it a little more ergonomic. That's what it's going to be like.

[kupomogli]

It has to be in contact with some kind of base station at all times, so it's not portable at all other than within the range of your TV/base station.


No, you are mistaken. The Wii U tablet isn't portable, it merely functions with the console

This is actually what I meant when I said it was portable, but you had to atleast hook it up to a power outlet. I personally don't ever play a portable unit unless it's either at my house, or someone elses house, or whatever. So regardless I'll be inside. What I meant is that if you were going over to someones house you could always bring the console itself with you as well as the controller. So if you wanted to play a portable at the time, then you could just hook it up and play it without the need of a television. Just the console and controller. So in a way. It's portable as much as I use them. But using it outside, on a bus, etc, etc. Yeah. Wouldn't really work.

I really dislike Wii, but with the Wii U being more of a console, even with a gimmick, I'll end up eventually getting one, atleast somewhat close to launch. I own a Gamecube so I guess I won't be that sad without GC bc, but it would have been much nicer if all three consoles were playable with just the Wii U.

Overall I think Nintendo had the best conference. We already knew about all the games coming out for the 3DS except Super Mario. I'll purchase a 3DS once we get the inevitable XL version. While I'm more interested in the PS Vita and the Uncharted games, Nintendo actually has shown a lot more games at their conference, and like everyone else mentioned, the conference wasn't just shooter after shooter and little else. Also, like I already mentioned, I'll be getting the Wii U. It was less interesting than the Vita and Uncharted 3, of course, but more interesting than pretty much everything else in this years show.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Reason to keep GC - GBA Player / PSO online play
Reason to keep Wii - softmod

You might as well keep it, is the extra $20 that hard to scratch up? Wii U is BC, the resale will plummet.


What I meant is that if you were going over to someones house you could always bring the console itself with you as well as the controller. So if you wanted to play a portable at the time, then you could just hook it up and play it without the need of a television. Just the console and controller.

First item on my want list after buying one of these is a travel case for just that reason.

I'm not certain, but from what they said, someone could play a game on the main TV screen and you could play a game on the tablet controller simultaneous. How that would work or what limitations that has, we'll see.

[Streetball 21]

You have to give Nintendo credit for trying something new, while Microsoft and Sony are still stuck on motion controls. Reggie said it right on G4 after the conference, "we are making our own path and the others are following, and it all started with motion control gaming".

[heybtbm]

Think about the size for a minute, I just realized it's smaller than you think it is.

Hold a PSP. That's a 5" screen. Add about an inch to the width and make it a little more ergonomic. That's what it's going to be like.

I think you need to look at more actual pictures of the device in people's hands. It's huge. Think "kindle" on its side and twice the thickness.

I'm excited by the console and praying the controller doesn't ruin the whole thing like the Wii-mote did before Nintendo got the hint and went the classic controller/gamecube controller route for most of their big games.

[Bojay1997]

I'm not coming to the same conclusions. I'm actually not coming to many, because we haven't gotten anything substantial about the thing yet. Also, remember that they held back features of the Wii right up to a few months before launch. Who knows what they are holding back? What they did show was their software game showing potential for better form, that's the point I wanted to see most. Also, obviously for some games I'm sure you can use the Wii classic controller and skip the lap screen.

Best thing is, right as Sony and MS are busy playing catch-up to what's been done, they're moving on and bring their last emergent thing with for the ride. A+ on that account. All these things being standard while still being optional was important for the direction. It's ballsy, and I like it.

Now, they just have to stay the path and get more (3rds) on board... Bring some PS3/360 titles over, but resist the urge to go port mad. Just the key stuff, leave the rest.

I don't know, I think if I was Sony and Microsoft, I would be feeling pretty good about things after Nintendo's press conference. Unlike the Wii where Nintendo saw a need and filled it in a new and exciting way, this new console appears to be an answer to a problem no gamer has ever felt they had. I've never once played a FPS and thought, gee, I wish I had a second screen on a plastic zapper frame so I could focus on two screens at once. I've also never had just one TV and been forced to continue playing a game on a tiny screen as a result of another family member demanding to watch baseball. Not a single one of the concepts they outlined for how the controller could be used appealed to me in any way. Do I really need a screen on the floor for a golf game so the kids can step on it or scratch it as they're running around and playing? I'm sorry, but just because Nintendo is ballsy and innovative doesn't mean that everything they do is brilliant or necessary.

[j_factor]

Meh. I don't see this tablet thing being that useful. Also it looks like a Ben Heck console.

I feel like I'm going to be very indifferent with gaming next gen.

[NayusDante]

The golf thing is definitely a crappy gimmick. I hope that's just a demo concept and not the basis for a full title.

I want to see Shogun 2 ported to this thing. Keep the conquest map on the controller screen, and put the battles on the main screen. Use the touchscreen to issue commands during battles.

[NayusDante]

Note: "Circle Pads" rather than analog sticks. Hmmm...

Kotaku has some video hot from the showroom floor (http://kotaku.com/5809519/).

[Press_Start]

Jeez! You guys are acting like a bunch of gossipy egotistical teenage girl snap-judging with ruthless shallowness like a blood-thirsty beartrap.

It's the same thing every year, you guys put too much weight on these press conferences but don't wait around for videos and trailers from the main floor...where the REAL meat is. So, how about we hold all "verdicts" for the weekend when we get a better picture for what's in store, huh?

As for the conference, Nintendo blew my mind with Wii U. Smart move to make not only backwards compatible with games but Wiimotes too. it's an interesting concept to say the least, but this E3 was just a tease and concretes my notion Nintendo's next console will be released after E3 next year, Summer 2012.

And as for the "haters", how is this any different than playing on GBA, PSP, a one-screen DS or playing Four-Swords on Gameboy Player?

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

*shrug*

Despite any criticisms of the controller design I may have (For the record, I HATE circle slider analogs), I'ma buy the thing.

[NayusDante]

Nintendo's video page (http://e3src.nintendo.com/videos/#/wii-u/) is finally up, but it's under heavy traffic.