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fishsandwich
06-08-2011, 11:59 AM
I have been slowly selling off my Saturn collection on eBay.

I put a bunch of fairly expensive Saturn games on eBay with a "Buy It Now" option.

A buyer I'll call RETROGAMERTIM bought "Crows The Battle Action" for $150.

The same day (and almost the same time) another buyer bought THREE games... Radiant Silvergun for $150, Hyper Duel for $150, and PSone Catstlevania Chronicles for $50.

I ship out the games and go about my business and pocket my earnings. Sweet!

RETROGAMERTIM leaves me excellent eBay feedback for “Crows The Battle Action”

About a MONTH later, I get a message from the buyer of the three games wanting to know where the games were. WHAT??? I checked PayPal and saw that all the games had been delivered. I had even bought signature confirmation so I knew who signed for them. This POS buyer was trying to rip me off and I had proof!

Oh wait… the post office says that the games were delivered to an address in Montana. The buyer with the three games was in California. The buyer of the single game (RETROGAMERTIM) was in Montana.

Oh shit!

All games were sold separately with free shipping and the payments were received separately so I had to cut and paste the confirmation number in PayPal so they would show as shipped. I thought I could have made a mistake and pasted the wrong number to the tracking site. I had sold a lot of games that week and I could not remember how I'd boxed them up.

I realized that there might be a chance that I had somehow sent one of the buyers the wrong set of games.

I found the phone number for RETROGAMERTIM and left a very friendly message on his answering machine inquiring if I had possibly sent him the wrong games. I also e-mailed him this message:


***(ME) “Greetings. I just got back from vacation and found a puzzling message from another eBay member regarding an item I sent out. Did I happen to include an additional game in your package? The USPS says you signed for it and I'm thinking I put the wrong item in your box. Please let me know. Many thanks.”***


I get this response from him the same day:


***(TIM) “Sorry it took a few days to get back to you. I just spoke with my nephew who opened the package you sent (one of his birthday presents) and he said there wasn't an extra game packed in there. Thanks again, he really likes it!” ***


So he didn’t get the games. Crap. Wait… he bought his nephew a copy of the very obscure and pretty shitty game “Crows The Battle Action” for $150 and didn’t open the box I mailed him to make sure everything was OK? That is very odd.

I decide to check his eBay account. I see that he is quite the Saturn collector. Lots of imports.

I go to PayPal and check the parcel that I sent RETROGAMERJIM. I had paid $10 for the medium flat rate box. Who sends one game in a medium box? And who gets a big box like that and doesn’t open it but instead wraps it up and gives it as a gift? Then I remembered… I HAD boxed up all four games and sent them to the wrong buyer!

This is certainly one of the stupidest things I have done lately. Now, I’ve done A LOT of stupid things in my life but nothing this grand in recent memory. Maybe I was excited about my overseas trip to India the next week. Maybe I was confused by all the games priced at $150 that sold so close to each other. Maybe I was confused when I looked at PapPal and all the games with the same prices in a row. Perhaps I went into some sort of fit when I saw all the pretty colors on the computer screen. Whatever the case, I boxed all the games up together and shipped them to RETROGAMERTIM and then stuck my head back in the sand.

I am a simpleton who needs to have a full-time babysitter.

But what could I do? RETROGAMERTIM had clearly stated that he did not get the games. I believe that he is allowed by law to keep whatever I sent him. Even if I could sue him, I’m not going to sue anyone (who lives across the country) over $350 or fly to Montana to confront someone.

I decided to do a little research on the dude. After all, I had his name, address, and phone number. A casual search revealed that he is 38 years old and that he seems to live with his parents, both of whom are in their 70’s. I type in his eBay ID on Google (far superior to BING, I might add) and WHAMMO… I get a photobucket page with pictures of him and his video game collection. He appears to be a serious geek. He also looks a bit like me. Dammit! Thankfully, I have never worn an ill-fitting and appallingly ugly demon/wizard outfit, taken a picture of myself in a bathroom mirror, and posted it online. Awful. I included his picture below. Then I spotted a recently-added picture of “Crows The Battle Action”. The one he supposedly gave to a nephew.

I decide to contact him again. What have I got to lose?

I call him again and leave a firm (but not threatening) message where I say that I mistakenly sent him three extra games and that I need them back, please. I tell him I will pay for shipping them back. I also leave him my name and phone number and ask him to call me.

I also e-mailed him this message:


*** (ME) “No, Tim, that is incorrect. I mistakenly sent you someone else's games. I packed them in a medium flat rate box and you signed for them. I need those games back, please. I will pay to have them shipped back to me. You signed for the games at your address on --- ---- ----. Please call me at --- --- ---- so I can arrange the return. Thank you. ***


I’m hoping the guy will fess up. Maybe ask for a “reward” to send them back. Or at least tell me the truth and tell to go f__k myself. It was MY ridiculous mistake, after all. He might even be legally entitled to keep them. It would serve me right for making such an asinine mistake.

The next day I wake up to this e-mail…


*** (TIM) “I heard your message. I’m headed to my sister's this weekend and I can take a look at my nephew's games. I can have my sister look tonight (or as soon as you respond).”***


Well, this is promising. It seems he has decided to continue to run with the “nephew” story. I’ll go along with it. What else can I do?

Two days later, I get this e-mail…


***(TIM) “Holy crap! Two of those...well you know. I called my sister and she has Radiant Silvergun and Hyper Duel in her hands. She WILL find Castlevania and meet me on Friday. I'll cover the return priority mail and tracking since Crow Battle Action had a great price. Please send me your address. Sorry for the trouble.”***


SCORE! He fessed up! Kind of, anyway. He blamed it on the nephew but I’ll take what I can get.

He sent me a tracking number for the package the next day. It arrived two days later. All three of the games are in fine shape.


I am one lucky stupid asshole.





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portnoyd
06-08-2011, 12:11 PM
Before I give the CSB, I will say you lucked the fuck out. Excellent google-fu, btw. Also:

http://forum.ntreev.net/grandchase/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/10/7457.brool_5F00_story_5F00_co_2E00_.jpg

VACRMH
06-08-2011, 12:32 PM
Thankfully, I have never worn an ill-fitting and appallingly ugly demon/wizard outfit, taken a picture of myself in a bathroom mirror, and posted it online.

Best description of a Juggalo I've heard in a long time ;)

Aussie2B
06-08-2011, 12:52 PM
I guess if you REALLY wanted to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, being nearly 40, he could have a nephew around 20 that's gotten into Saturn collecting just like his "Uncle Tim" and took of photo of Crows for his uncle to put up as a recent game purchase. But, yeah, fat chance, haha.

But that's awesome that it managed to turn out well. I once had to return a game-related item that was supposed to go to someone else (and that person got mine), and it eventually was straightened out. I also once forgot to ship a piece when some jackass sold me a broken Virtual Boy and made me pay for the return shipping, and in my frustration, I left out the plug, forcing me to ship a second package for more money yet. That's about the extent of my shipping fumbles experiences (unless you count all the morons who can't pack decently), and thankfully I haven't had them with high-value items.

MrNelson
06-08-2011, 12:54 PM
http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/demotivational-posters-juggalos.jpg
Anyone that thinks being a Juggalo is cool is in serious need of a mental evaluation. On a side note, what is your ebay ID, as I'm in the market for some Saturn games.

Icarus Moonsight
06-08-2011, 01:22 PM
The most ridiculous thing is not your shipping blunder, but how a Juggalo could hold up and save $150+ without blowing it all on meth and Faygo. I guess this one figured out magnets.

old_skoolin_jim
06-08-2011, 01:43 PM
I would like to clarify that I am in no way, shape, or form involved in this story, particularly in reference to "RETROGAMERJIM".

But to OP, you are one lucky/resourceful d00d. Super sleuthin'!

TonyTheTiger
06-08-2011, 02:04 PM
You know, you could perhaps give the guy a little respect for being a decent enough person instead of posting his picture to make him a clown.

If he were more lacking in the morality category he could have easily made this far more difficult for you. Stop counting yourself lucky and instead count him a decent person who chose not to screw you over like he easily could have.

The Shawn
06-08-2011, 02:06 PM
I would of gotten away with it to if it wasn't for those pesky kids.

portnoyd
06-08-2011, 02:13 PM
You know, you could perhaps give the guy a little respect for being a decent enough person instead of posting his picture to make him a clown.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4JOLLUZy9Hb1oEwi7jDkYdd_1v0PRR-rsw7GmKlzv-Vo8mwGe

fishsandwich
06-08-2011, 02:18 PM
You know, you could perhaps give the guy a little respect for being a decent enough person instead of posting his picture to make him a clown.

If he were more lacking in the morality category he could have easily made this far more difficult for you. Stop counting yourself lucky and instead count him a decent person who chose not to screw you over like he easily could have.

I blocked out his face. I left out his address. I changed his name and eBay ID. I could have done far worse that write a story for the entertainment of others.

You whine too much.




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Icarus Moonsight
06-08-2011, 02:23 PM
He only gave the stuff back because the Juggalo religion would bar him from the Wicked Carnival in the Sky. The Great Milenko sees all, lying in this case would not be MCL at all.

TonyTheTiger
06-08-2011, 02:30 PM
I blocked out his face. I left out his address. I changed his name and eBay ID. I could have done far worse that write a story for the entertainment of others.

You whine too much.




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And you could have lost $350 due to a pretty obvious error. I mean, shit, if I had somebody send me back something like that I'd be relieved more than anything.

The Shawn
06-08-2011, 02:34 PM
and you could have lost $350 due to a pretty obvious error. I mean, shit, if i had somebody send me back something like that i'd be relieved more than anything.


retrogamertim?

Also, if the guy had been a "decent enough person" he would have notified him as soon as all 4 games came and told him. Not when the sender told him he had his signature for all 4 parcels and he got scared without thinking. Their is no such thing as half honesty. Guess he simply forgot to put on his wizard hat...

TonyTheTiger
06-08-2011, 02:35 PM
retrogamertim?

Haha, I wish. I could use $350 worth of Saturn games. :(

Enigmus
06-08-2011, 02:39 PM
I would of gotten away with it to if it wasn't for those pesky kids.

And their meddling mutt.

pseudonym
06-08-2011, 02:52 PM
Agreeing with Tony, here. He didn't have to send the games back and there's probably nothing you could have done about it.

The Shawn
06-08-2011, 02:54 PM
Also, if the guy had been a "decent enough person" he would have notified him as soon as all 4 games came and told him. Not when the sender told him he had his signature for all 4 parcels and he got scared without thinking. Their is no such thing as being half honest. Guess he simply forgot to put on his wizard hat...


Self quoting, yes very lame.

APE992
06-08-2011, 02:59 PM
Agreeing with Tony, here. He didn't have to send the games back and there's probably nothing you could have done about it.

Not sure honestly. We aren't talking here about $12 in cheap jewelery but a tidy sum of cash. Probably would have to talk to a lawyer realistically and since it crossed state lines it'd be a felony if there was any wrong doing on his part.

fishsandwich
06-08-2011, 03:26 PM
This is certainly one of the stupidest things I have done lately. Now, I’ve done A LOT of stupid things in my life but nothing this grand in recent memory.



I am a simpleton who needs to have a full-time babysitter.




I believe that he is allowed by law to keep whatever I sent him.




I’m hoping the guy will fess up. Maybe ask for a “reward” to send them back. Or at least tell me the truth and tell to go f__k myself. It was MY ridiculous mistake, after all. He might even be legally entitled to keep them. It would serve me right for making such an asinine mistake.




I am one lucky stupid asshole.




I am one lucky stupid asshole.




I am one lucky stupid asshole.




I am one lucky stupid asshole.




I am one lucky stupid asshole.



I have to agree with fishsandwich on this one.



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Orion Pimpdaddy
06-08-2011, 03:34 PM
Glad it worked out for you fish sandwich. On another note, I just learned what a "brool story" is and what a "juggalo" is.

TonyTheTiger
06-08-2011, 03:35 PM
Not sure honestly. We aren't talking here about $12 in cheap jewelery but a tidy sum of cash. Probably would have to talk to a lawyer realistically and since it crossed state lines it'd be a felony if there was any wrong doing on his part.

It's true that he would technically be guilty of larceny or a variant of it if he intentionally withheld the property from it's rightful owner. A shipping mistake is not an automatic "here, this is a gift."

But, really, something being technically the case doesn't mean anything can actually be done about it barring some miracle. Yeah, there would be legal recourse but it wouldn't be extremely likely to produce results. Which is why I'd probably be kissing the ass of anybody who returned something I mailed them by accident.

fishsandwich
06-08-2011, 03:47 PM
Glad it worked out for you fish sandwich. On another note, I just learned what a "brool story" is and what a "juggalo" is.


Yeah, I didn't know what a "brool story" was either until portnoyd schooled me. I didn't think my story was THAT boring.

I knew what a "juhhalo" was. They threw a bunch of turds at Tia Tequila.


http://gawker.com/5612993/was-tila-tequila-attacked-with-poo-by-juggalos



Gross!

Damaramu
06-08-2011, 03:50 PM
Ha! Speak of the devil, I was just talking about Juggalos elsewhere. I came across this pic...

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7558/juggalos.jpg

bend
06-08-2011, 04:37 PM
Had he decided to not send you back the games, there isn't much you can do about it. Legally, he would have to return them, but you would never be able to prove what was in the box when you sent it. There wasn't a strong enough paper trail to determine what went where. You lucked out.

This kind of stuff happens at banks all the time. Sometimes the bank will put money in your account that isn't yours. It usually takes the bank a couple days before they correct the error, but there's people out there who think it's free money and spend it. The difference between video games and the bank is the bank has a perfect paper trail of their money and will demand the money back. You will have to pay back every penny because you don't have a legal leg to stand on. An error doesn't entitle you to freebies.

Same thing with a work paycheck. Knowingly accepting or not returning money in error when confronted could, and perfectly legally, get you fired.

Rickstilwell1
06-08-2011, 05:02 PM
Yeah and the thing is, what if he had already sold the spare games for more money than you did. He would have still gotten something out of it and just had to pay you back.

Enigmus
06-08-2011, 05:35 PM
I once saw a juggalo IRL. He looked fat enough to crush a golf cart and he was dumber than a McDonalds employee, not to mention how he stomped around with a bottle of grape Faygo.

Also, true fact: there is a list Maddox (the Best Page one) made in 1998 of the bands he hated, and guess who's on the list? Insane Clown Posse. They sucked, even over a decade ago, and they still do.

mobiusclimber
06-08-2011, 06:16 PM
I've had shipping screw-ups before and have always offered either shipping reimbursement or a freebie game (most take the game). In this case, I'd grab a decent Saturn import and ship it off to his address as a thank you (with a thank you note inside). Whether he intentionally tried to keep those games or, as he said, he was unaware they were shipped to his cousin, he went thru the trouble of sending them back when he could have just denied their existance and kept them.

retrocollectorguy
06-08-2011, 06:40 PM
Ive never done this myself but ive received extra games several times. Best occasion was after buying a GBA system off ebay for $10 bucks shipped "buy it now" I got a second package from the seller a month later with a brief note saying they found all the games and decided to send them to me. Well there were about 30 games that were worth around $200 total according to ebay prices. This happened right before Christmas too!

Zing
06-08-2011, 06:44 PM
I have twice sent packages to the wrong person.

First time, I mix up the destination for a CD drive and a SCSI card. The guy who received the drive was nice enough to return it, but the other guy kept my SCSI card. Jerk.

Second time, I mixed up the destination for Mario Kart 64 and Mario 64. Both people returned the games to me.

I can't imagine this happening these days. Most of the time I use Paypal shipping labels, and I always verify the package contents, along with writing a hint on the outside of the box.

pixelsnpolygons
06-08-2011, 07:02 PM
That was a well written story - loved your self-deprecating comments, too. Glad it worked out well for you as well. And I loved how the thread became an excuse to hate on Juggalos. I'm not really sure why but I just can't stand those guys.

The Shawn
06-08-2011, 07:45 PM
he was dumber than a McDonalds employee


Your a real classy dude. You really need to go and let the adults speak. I've never had to work at MickyD's but I know fellow CHEF'S motherfucker that have had to in the last 5 years due to the economy, you wouldn't know that living at the folks house though.

Meh. End of rant.

portnoyd
06-08-2011, 09:04 PM
Your a real classy dude. You really need to go and let the adults speak. I've never had to work at MickyD's but I know fellow CHEF'S motherfucker that have had to in the last 5 years due to the economy, you wouldn't know that living at the folks house though.

Meh. End of rant.

TheShawn is poor, lol.

Icarus Moonsight
06-08-2011, 09:18 PM
I once saw a juggalo IRL. He looked fat enough to crush a McDonalds heavy user with but a single ass cheek...

Fixed. Desired comedic effect achieved.

I grew up around Juggalos. Probably the only high hazard condition present in rural Minnesota 15 years ago (sheltered as fuck). I assumed they were a total parody joke act about the silliness of rap in general, and I also thought some of their early stuff was funny... I seriously thought it was all satire, shock and show. Then they got more popular, got on TV wrestling, and they professed seriousness in this nonsense they spouted. Break all ties and associations... Now, Juggalo is a religion. OMGWTFICP... Bronies make more sense.

/hijack

The Shawn
06-08-2011, 09:24 PM
TheShawn is poor, lol.

Wtf are you on about now?

You really have zero concept of shit. FYI I know of a few moderators on these forums who have had to work at Mcdonalds. Along with people I've known and have worked side by side with for years in established restaraunts with full grown kids,AND degrees from CIA , thank God I never Had to, but there is nothing wrong with taking a job you don't want to if you HAVE to, to take care of yourself and family. And if I needed to I would. I really don't see where your tangent leads you in this.

Who knows?/Who cares? I really don't.

Remember kids, you can post/say anything you want if your portnoyd.

Maybe you should stop your penis from fluttering every time I post? Yes?

heybtbm
06-08-2011, 10:44 PM
Did someone say Juggalos?

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5573/tumblrlekhw8n4hv1qfbarr.jpg

Bonus: some Chris-chan (http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page) magical rhymes for the uninitiated...

http://youtu.be/A83TC27Lrqg

TonyTheTiger
06-08-2011, 11:14 PM
http://arch.413chan.net/MLP_Why_would_you_post_that-%28n1297178032856%29.jpg

MrNelson
06-08-2011, 11:55 PM
did someone say juggalos?

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5573/tumblrlekhw8n4hv1qfbarr.jpg




http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm34/Ragnor144/Simpsons-KillItWithFire.gif

I've seen some bad tattoos, but the word "chicken"?
Is that some kind of Juggalo in-joke, or is he just professing his deep love for flightless fowl?

mobiusclimber
06-09-2011, 03:08 AM
Fixed. Desired comedic effect achieved.

I grew up around Juggalos. Probably the only high hazard condition present in rural Minnesota 15 years ago (sheltered as fuck). I assumed they were a total parody joke act about the silliness of rap in general, and I also thought some of their early stuff was funny... I seriously thought it was all satire, shock and show. Then they got more popular, got on TV wrestling, and they professed seriousness in this nonsense they spouted. Break all ties and associations... Now, Juggalo is a religion. OMGWTFICP... Bronies make more sense.

/hijack

I dunno... every interview I've ever seen or read of the dudes in ICP basically has them admitting that they suck and it's really all for a laugh, that you shouldn't take them seriously at all. The main guy (forget his name) is one of the most humble "rich rock dudes" and has exactly zero pretensions about his music. That doesn't make the music any better (or their fans any smarter) but at least you can say they don't have any egos about it.

portnoyd
06-09-2011, 07:33 AM
Wtf are you on about now?

You really have zero concept of shit. FYI I know of a few moderators on these forums who have had to work at Mcdonalds. Along with people I've known and have worked side by side with for years in established restaraunts with full grown kids,AND degrees from CIA , thank God I never Had to, but there is nothing wrong with taking a job you don't want to if you HAVE to, to take care of yourself and family. And if I needed to I would. I really don't see where your tangent leads you in this.

Who knows?/Who cares? I really don't.

Remember kids, you can post/say anything you want if your portnoyd.

Maybe you should stop your penis from fluttering every time I post? Yes?

MISSION REPORT:

TheShawn: Successfully trolled.

Zing
06-09-2011, 08:10 AM
McDonald's pioneered the business of employing people with low skill and intelligence. The use of machines and the assembly line method of constructing food were specifically chosen to allow the hiring of people with minimal training and experience. There is nothing wrong with that.

Icarus Moonsight
06-09-2011, 09:35 AM
I've seen some bad tattoos, but the word "chicken"?
Is that some kind of Juggalo in-joke, or is he just professing his deep love for flightless fowl?

Chicken Neck - From what I gather, it's Juggaloese for Redneck, which is a term they also use interchangeably. Chicken neck might have a subtle difference to it, toward the better or worse than, IDK.

mobiusclimber:
Yeah, they might be what I initially thought, but they still are intolerable to listen to. The last album they had that I could laugh at was Milenko and that was over 10 years ago. Since then, the single "Slim Anus" knocking Eminem and their whole WTF Magnets? thing is all they've been able to get done. The latter wasn't even intentional, just internet wildfire.

I'll say this again, take your typical KISS Army type, subtract a chromosome, have their make-up applied by Michael J Fox and you have a Juggalo.

TonyTheTiger
06-09-2011, 09:51 AM
McDonald's pioneered the business of employing people with low skill and intelligence. The use of machines and the assembly line method of constructing food were specifically chosen to allow the hiring of people with minimal training and experience. There is nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, but perhaps more importantly, it's for consistency. If you want a restaurant in Los Angeles and a restaurant in New York to be indistinguishable from each other in terms of product then you have to make the process as basic as possible so hundreds of employees who've never met each other are still doing the work exactly the same.

Icarus Moonsight
06-09-2011, 10:02 AM
McDonald's pioneered the business of employing people with low skill and intelligence. The use of machines and the assembly line method of constructing food were specifically chosen to allow the hiring of people with minimal training and experience.

http://files.sharenator.com/wtf_am_i_reading_Funny_Pics-s600x600-181829.jpg

mobiusclimber
06-09-2011, 01:09 PM
mobiusclimber:
Yeah, they might be what I initially thought, but they still are intolerable to listen to. The last album they had that I could laugh at was Milenko and that was over 10 years ago. Since then, the single "Slim Anus" knocking Eminem and their whole WTF Magnets? thing is all they've been able to get done. The latter wasn't even intentional, just internet wildfire.

I haven't even listened to much of their stuff since Milenko besides those two songs you mentioned (yeah, if you know anyone who has heard anything besides those two songs, or who claims to "like" ICP without being a juggalo, it's because they own Milenko). I think it's kind of hilarious that they successfully trolled their own audience by claiming to be Christian tho. Probably the best thing they've done since Milenko, imo.