New game I got for SNES: Super R-Type

[Granado_jake]

Just came in the mail today, box got crushed pretty badly :/ but its is ok I just wanna play the game.

So far it is pretty sweet, a little different from the Turbografx-16 version i have been playing recently. By different i mean TG-16 has flicker, and SNES has alot of slowdown. I have only beaten the first level, but now i gotta go to class.

How is super r-type 3 compared with these two? Worth getting if i like the tg-16 alot, and so far I am enjoying Super r-type?

Jake G

[klausien]

R-Type III on the SNES is incredible. Just stay away from the GBA version.

[Granado_jake]

is it that good? i may have to start looking for it

[Steven]

reminds me of the super r-type thread I posted over 5 years ago :p

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78671

[klausien]

The short answer is yes. It is a wholly original R-Type designed for the SNES. It is absolutely one of the best games in the genre on the system, and is a must play if you are an R-Type fan.

[Edmond Dantes]

Super R-Type is actually just an inferior port of R-Type 2. You can actually find better versions either for the Gameboy Color (as part of R-Type DX) or the Playstation (as part of R-Types. This version is arcade-accurate).

[Granado_jake]

Got a new game in...about 12 hours ago...it is now 4:18 ish in the A.M...and I am bored, thought i would show you guys my stuff

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If you can't read the white sticker on the back, it says "Used- Very Good"

Not sure if that is bad labeling or bad shipping...


http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/granado_jake/IMG-20110708-00179.jpg

Jake G

[Granado_jake]

Yeah there might be better versions out there, but i like my SNES alot, so that's the version i want to play, The playstation version I am quite interested in though, thank you

Didn't know they had that on there Edmond that's badass, How many games come on the disc?

Jake

[DigitalSpace]

The SNES version of R-Type III is a must-own for any shmup fan.

[j1e]

How much did you pay for it?

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Updated your thread title for you, please be more specific in the future.

[Drixxel]

This may have been a nice addition to the thread you started yesterday about this particular copy of Super R-Type arriving in the mail. The game has some wicked box art.

[Bratwurst]

This is the single greatest contemporary thread on Digital Press as of this posting.

The horizontal tear across the face of the label: Careless removal of a rental security strip prior to resale, or the work of sexually repressed leprechauns?

How many times do you think the box has been sat on? I am guessing two.

Do you think someone read the instruction manual while making doo doo on the toilet in between play sessions?

Discuss.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Damn, didn't notice the redundant/duplicative threads.

THREAD MERGE POWERS ACTIVATE!

[Granado_jake]

Updated your thread title for you, please be more specific in the future.

Thanks frankie, I typed it and realized i couldn't change it to something better after i posted it

[Granado_jake]

This is the single greatest contemporary thread on Digital Press as of this posting.

The horizontal tear across the face of the label: Careless removal of a rental security strip prior to resale, or the work of sexually repressed leprechauns?

How many times do you think the box has been sat on? I am guessing two.

Do you think someone read the instruction manual while making doo doo on the toilet in between play sessions?

Discuss.

My guess is leprechauns...the box has been sat on way more than twice..

and yeah man, that's good reading material when dropping that deuce

and i paid $6.34

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Thanks frankie, I typed it and realized i couldn't change it to something better after i posted it

You can.

Click edit, then click "go advanced".

http://th5.photobucket.com/albums/y157/brian_d/th_2uid5zo.gif

[Granado_jake]

Really? damn, must have missed it... and no luck on finding R-type 3 today, instead i bagged these

http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/granado_jake/IMG-20110708-00181.jpg

Fuzzy but they are Super Castlevania IV, and Williams arcade's
greatest hits

http://i627.photobucket.com/albums/tt359/granado_jake/IMG-20110708-00182.jpg

and Gradius 3

I had arcade classics on genesis, but now SNEs, and I have only played SCIV once, on an emulator :D, Gradius... never played but i tested it in the store and went ahead with it, not too bad of prices, thought castlevania was a little high? (23 bucks) but i really wanted it

[Edmond Dantes]

Yeah there might be better versions out there, but i like my SNES alot, so that's the version i want to play, The playstation version I am quite interested in though, thank you

Didn't know they had that on there Edmond that's badass, How many games come on the disc?

Jake

Just the first two, sadly.

Doesn't matter much as you can usually find R-Types for $10 or less (and you'll probably never beat the games anyway), but it would be nice if they would release a comprehensive collection of all the arcade games. Come on Irem, Konami gave us nearly the entire Gradius series on the PSP, why can't you give us a bone too?

[Granado_jake]

Yeah i would buy it in a heartbeat, I did look for R-type 3 AND the playstation version but I couldn't find either of them. I found two shooters (i think) on the ps1...RayCrisis and RayStorm? are those any good? I was never really into the ps1, so not sure.

[klausien]

Btw, R-Type III is not going to be easy to find. You'll probably have to resort to forum sales or eBay.

Not to direct you away from DP in any way, but start here: http://www.shmups.com/

Taito's Ray series is excellent. If you have a 360, go for Raystorm HD. Darius is also a truly classic series from Taito. Shmups are probably my favorite genre, even though I'm only mediocre at them. I recommend you read up, explore, and eventually find a way to play DoDonPachi.

[Granado_jake]

Which DoDonPachi version do you recommend? and yeah i gots me a 360, is it an arcade game? and i can find R-type 3 on amazon...but i dunno why i dont wannt buy it there just yet, that is like last resort

I will check out that site, just to see what's around.

I was never a giant fan of Shumps (eh word) but i got my first TG-16 in January and it got me hooedk on them, so I am looking for more on SNES one of my "older" consoles, had this one since launch almost?

I am stuck on my SNES of late, just cause of the tremendous backlog of games i either missed or just didn't play, I have ALOT of catching up to do.

[Bloodreign]

This could turn into a good shmups thread. :)

But seriously, as a man who owns both SNES R-Type games, R-Type DX, and R-Types on PSX, the PSX has the better version of R-Type 2. The SNES Super R-Type (ala R-Type II) has horrible slowdown, and no checkpoints (die at a boss, sure, start the entire stage over), as for R-Type 3, it's bliss on the SNES, no issues at all with it (as someone said, avoid the GBA port, it makes even Bob Barker cry due to how horrible it is). But R-Types on PSX, hot damn is that a couple fine ports of the first two R-Type games, screen res isn't 100% arcade accurate, but it's pretty damned close, it might even run a few MHz faster on the PSX version than the original arcade. For R-Type 3 I had to do ebay for it, though I have seen it once in the wild, after I long had the game.

I see talk in here of Raystorm and Raycrisis, none are nearly as good as Rayforce, which had a Saturn port as Rayforce/Galactic Attack, still nice games and happen to own all 3, two (Force and Crisis) are the import versions. I also see Gradius 3 mentioned in here, like it very much, hate the slowdown, prefer the arcade version on Gradius 3 & 4 PS 2, I can take the slowdown away on that. Not to mention it's one of the hardest shmups ever made.

[Granado_jake]

What are your thoughts on Phalanx? Eveything I read is average, but i really enjoy the game..the music from first two levels always plays in my head after i play it,

[Leo_A]

Come on Irem, Konami gave us nearly the entire Gradius series on the PSP, why can't you give us a bone too?

Irem appears to be imploding at the moment, so don't hold your breath.

Plus, aren't there several R-Type/R-Type II bundles out there? Seems like that was what R-Types was on the PSOne (Available on PSN as well, I believe) and I'm pretty sure XBLA saw a similar package. You'd only miss out on R-Type Leo.

[Edmond Dantes]

Actually I discovered this (http://www.pcgamersworld.com/2010/12/dotemu-launches-irem-arcade-collection/) just yesterday. Seems R-Type Leo is finally coming home... as DLC.

Hopefully this means it could get a physical media release at some point. Here's hoping its for a system I actually have or want.

By the way, wasn't there somebody in this thread who was looking for R-Types? I think I saw a copy in the wild. I might pick it up to replace my current copy (a former rental with stickers on the disc and no manual), in which case I'll be letting go of my old one (the game works and plays fine, I'm just a clean freak)

[Leo_A]

That's a computer collection, not for consoles or handhelds.

[Drixxel]

What are your thoughts on Phalanx? Eveything I read is average, but i really enjoy the game..the music from first two levels always plays in my head after i play it,

I've dug Phalanx ever since I played the hidden Tiny Phalanx in Zero Divide for PSX. Prior to that, the infamous box art had always turned me away from renting it back in the day. The only legimitate concern I have with the game is the colour of the typical enemy bullet, that deep red doesn't exactly stand out against darker backgroundss clearly enough.

[Granado_jake]

Yeah those red bullets can be a bitch to see, but i bought the game because of the cover! lol long time ago

[A Black Falcon]

Super R-Type is actually just an inferior port of R-Type 2. You can actually find better versions either for the Gameboy Color (as part of R-Type DX) or the Playstation (as part of R-Types. This version is arcade-accurate).

R-Type DX R-Type 2 better than Super R-Type? I'm not sure, each has some advantages and disadvantages versus the other. Super R-Type is harder because it has no saving, is longer (six levels versus five), and has no checkpoints so if you die in a level you start the whole thing over. Those things are true and the last one particularly is frustrating. However, I liked the game anyway; it's not just a weird port of R-Type 2, it's a somewhat different game with some different levels. Super R-Type has the same number of total levels as the arcade version, but drops a couple in favor of a few new ones. Also some of the ones that do stay were changed. So, I'd say that you should play both Super R-Type and one of the more accurate ports.

Oh, and Super R-Type has nice, big graphics too. It does have lots of slowdown, but it's an early SNES game so you expect that. I think it plays decently well even so. It's tough but beatable, in part thanks to slowdown (in that way it's like Gradius III, which is a great game in my opinion and is probably my favorite 4th gen shmup despite having constant, significant slowdown).

As for the GBC version, obviously the visuals are much smaller and shrunken to fit the small screen. Also, as I said, the color version has saving and lets you continue from the last level you reached. It's also based on the arcade version, so you'll see a level that wasn't in Super R-Type, and versions of the others more like the originals. However, it does have one level cut out, as I said above, so there are only five levels instead of six. R-Type 1 in R-Type DX (or Game Boy, for the original B&W releases) is even worse off, with two of the original eight levels cut. It's really too bad that the GBC version didn't put the missing three levels back in; they redid some of the graphics in both games, for the colorized versions, but sadly they didn't put in the missing levels. I wish they had.

Overall, I do think both compliment the other... but if I had to choose one, I might choose the SNES one first because it does have one more level than the GB/GBC ones. The GBC version is a lot easier though and saves. At least the SNES one has infinite continues, though; TG16 R-Type 1 was really hard in part because it's got limited continues. You can just keep trying Super R-Type until you get each one of the levels right. Overall Super R-Type isn't one of the SNES's best shmups, but it is a good game.


As for Phalanx, eh, it's okay, but of the US SNES shmup library I'd call it mid-tier. I like stuff like the two R-Type games, Gradius III, U.N. Squadron, BlaZeon, Space Megaforce, Raiden Trad, and Aero Fighters more. It's okay though.

[Granado_jake]

I have phalanx, Super R-type, Raiden Trad, Gradius and...I got one today called Imperium, Overall not bad, haven't got to play it much.

I still love me some Turbografx-16 (I like typing that) R-type, in my eyes it is one of the best ones. I just recently heard about the SNES on and went out and promptly bought it.

[Edmond Dantes]

Playstation will always be the one for me, but as soon as my Turbo gets fixed I'd like to pick up Raiden. I know The Raiden Project is more arcade-accurate but the TG16 one is nostalgic, and I like its remix of the first level theme better than the other versions.

.... You guys have turned me into a Shmupper. You know that, right?

[Drixxel]

As for Phalanx, eh, it's okay, but of the US SNES shmup library I'd call it mid-tier. I like stuff like the two R-Type games, Gradius III, U.N. Squadron, BlaZeon, Space Megaforce, Raiden Trad, and Aero Fighters more. It's okay though.

BlaZeon's kind of cool, but I find the speed of the scrolling to be agonizing. The majority of the time, the stages crawl by at a snail's pace and there's not even a whole lot that's demanding your attention as far as danger is concerned. R-Type tends to take it pretty slow but BlaZeon has syrup in the gears.

[Edmond Dantes]

Hey, since this is the official shmups thread now, I gotta ask: What are some good shmups for the GB/GBC/GBA? The only one I own is R-Type DX and the only ones I know about besides that are the Gradius/Nemesis games and Iridion 3D. Any other sources of on-the-go shooting I should look at?

[Edmond Dantes]

For some reason my last post didn't bump this topic, so I'm trying again.

[kedawa]

There's a port of R-Type III on GBA, I beleive.
GBC got 1943, iirc.
GB was never very good for shmups because of the ghosting and blur on the LCD.

[A Black Falcon]

I have phalanx, Super R-type, Raiden Trad, Gradius and...I got one today called Imperium, Overall not bad, haven't got to play it much.
I haven't found a cart copy of Imperium, I only have played it emulated... it's okay.


I still love me some Turbografx-16 (I like typing that) R-type, in my eyes it is one of the best ones. I just recently heard about the SNES on and went out and promptly bought it.
Yeah, TG16 R-Type is pretty awesome. It is really hard thanks to the credit limit, though; even with that code that gives you 16 credits or so, it's still really hard to finish. I haven't managed to beat that version yet... great game though!



Playstation will always be the one for me, but as soon as my Turbo gets fixed I'd like to pick up Raiden. I know The Raiden Project is more arcade-accurate but the TG16 one is nostalgic, and I like its remix of the first level theme better than the other versions.

.... You guys have turned me into a Shmupper. You know that, right?
There is one thing that the TG16 version of R-Type does that I don't think any other version does -- it zooms in. That is, it's not fullscreen vertically -- R-Type TG16 is actually zoomed in a bit beyond that, so there's a slight vertical scroll as you move up and down. It's not enough to cut off anything important at any time, but it is enough to make the sprites bigger than in other versions of the game, or series. I think the resulting look is pretty cool, I like those huge sprites. :)


BlaZeon's kind of cool, but I find the speed of the scrolling to be agonizing. The majority of the time, the stages crawl by at a snail's pace and there's not even a whole lot that's demanding your attention as far as danger is concerned. R-Type tends to take it pretty slow but BlaZeon has syrup in the gears.
I know most people don't seem to consider BlaZeon anything above mediocre, but I love the game, I really do. I agree it's slow, but I don't mind; the music is just incredible, particularly in some of the stages (the junkyard stage music... wow... it's hypnotic and brilliant!), for one. The level designs are pretty good, too; yes, they're very spread out, but still, they are well designed. I like the "stealing enemy ships" concept too, and it's executed well. I also love how the game has location-based damage for many enemies, and your ship too, so where you (or they) get hit will determine which guns get knocked out. Pretty cool.

Also, it may not be one of the hardest shmups, but it's not super easy either. It gets tougher near the end -- indeed, the last level is quite tricky and has some pretty hard parts. That is frustrating of course, because then if you die three times and have to continue you start that whole, huge, really long stage all the way from the beginning again, but hey, the game needs some challenge somewhere.

But yeah, there are some stretches where you might spend as long as 15 seconds just flying along without any enemies attacking you. I just don't mind that. It's a great game.


Hey, since this is the official shmups thread now, I gotta ask: What are some good shmups for the GB/GBC/GBA? The only one I own is R-Type DX and the only ones I know about besides that are the Gradius/Nemesis games and Iridion 3D. Any other sources of on-the-go shooting I should look at?

quote=kedawa]There's a port of R-Type III on GBA, I beleive.
GBC got 1943, iirc.
GB was never very good for shmups because of the ghosting and blur on the LCD. [/quote]
R-Type III GBA is awful! Don't buy it! That was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it's quite true. The problem is that the team that ported the game wasn't given any source code or anything; they had to simply replicate the game by looking at it. That's pretty hard. They did an okay job considering, but it's nowhere near as good as the SNES original.

As for the latter point, I'd say that handhelds in general are usually weak on the shmup front. Handhelds never have shmup libraries that match the major consoles. That's still true now, in fact... so yeah, the GB doesn't have the deepest shmup library, but that's mostly just because the genre is generally thin on handhelds.

The GB does have some good shmups, though. My favorite is Gradius: The Interstellar Assualt, which is a somewhat easy but just brilliant Gradius game. Amazing, amazing game, great in gameplay, graphics, design, music, and plot (for a Gradius game)! After that, next best would be the R-Type ports, best played in R-Type DX, which has both the B&W originals of I and II and colorized versions.

Beyond those two, for US releases there are some others (you can find the whole list at shmups.com of course), some of note. For B&W, Mercenary Force is an interesting game. I like AeroStar as well, it's got some unique mechanics and is pretty good. Nemesis (Gradius) is good as well. Some people like Solar Striker, but while it isn't bad, I think it's just a bit too bland. I haven't played Sagaia for GB, but I think I've heard it's decent. For imports, Chikyuu Kaihou Gun ZAS is pretty good. There are also Vattle Giuce, Parodius (also was released in Europe) and Pop'n Twinbee, and some others.

As for Game Boy Color, R-Type DX is the top one for sure (and of course, the cart includes both the B&W and color versions). GBC also has Project S-11, which is a decent game. It's not great, but it is good. GBC also has an okay version of 1942 (color only). There's also Space Marauder, a colorized version of the GB shmup Burai Fighter, a European version of SWIV, and a Japanese release of Magical Chase GB, a port of the TG16 game.

I'm sure I'm missing some more good ones for both platforms as well.

[Edmond Dantes]

I'm sure I mentioned that I already have R-Type DX...

[Drixxel]

As far as solid shmups for Game Boy, there's a smattering of goodness to be found in the genre but it's definitely not the best one represented on the handheld. I second the previous recommendations for the GB Gradius releases, they're able approximations of the real thing. I'd rather play Parodius or Twinbee Da!, though - they seem somehow better suited for the Game Boy. Mercenary Force is fairly unique, you control a squad (or "force", if you will) made up of units with different attacks that you assemble before each stage and it's all about switching between an assortment of battle formations on-the-go. I'd recommend Burai Fighter Deluxe and Battle Unit Zeoth, as well, for additional portable shmup-ing.

EDIT: corrections.

[Granado_jake]

Hell I had never heard of Imperium, I just wanted another shooter, found the cart cheap and tested it, turned out to be a shmup so i got it lol. Haven't got around to it much as of late.

Hell the only shooter i ever had for the GBA was Iridion 3d, from what i remember it was alright, never got too deep in that game, i was busy playing Advance Wars, Tactics Advance, Golden Sun (Love em') and such

[Emperor Megas]

Yeah those red bullets can be a bitch to see, but i bought the game because of the cover! lol long time agoSame here. :)

[Edmond Dantes]

There is one thing that the TG16 version of R-Type does that I don't think any other version does -- it zooms in. That is, it's not fullscreen vertically -- R-Type TG16 is actually zoomed in a bit beyond that, so there's a slight vertical scroll as you move up and down.

R-Types for the Playstation has something like that too, but its an option you can enable. On my TV, you pretty much have to or its possible for the R9 fighter to go right off the top of the screen, but I've heard there are televisions where you can leave it on no-scrolling mode and still see everything.

In other news, I just scored R-Type Delta from somebody. Once it arrives in the mail, all I'll need is R-Type III and R-Type Final and I'll have at least one version of every R-Type that was ever ported to a home console (I'm just ignoring R-Type Leo until it gets put on physical media of some sort).

Speaking of arcade games: I just got both the Capcom Classics Collections for the PS2, and I was wondering: Is 1942's original music supposed to sound that bad? I had to turn on the remixed music just to make it listenable. Sadly, the 194x series is nowhere near as good as I remembered from the days of my youth.

Right now, my favorite shmups are the Gradius, R-Type and Thunder Force series, at least the installments of each that I've played.

[kedawa]

1942 has terrible sounding music in the arcade.

[A Black Falcon]

I'm sure I mentioned that I already have R-Type DX...

Yeah, and that may be the best GBC shmup, but as I tried to show in that list it's not the only one.


As far as solid shmups for Game Boy, there's a smattering of goodness to be found in the genre but it's definitely not the best one represented on the handheld. I second the previous recommendations for the GB Gradius releases, they're able approximations of the real thing. I'd rather play Parodius or Twinbee Da!, though - they seem somehow better suited for the Game Boy. Mercenary Force is fairly unique, you control a squad (or "force", if you will) made up of units with different attacks that you assemble before each stage and it's all about switching between an assortment of battle formations on-the-go. I'd recommend Burai Fighter Deluxe and Battle Unit Zeoth, as well, for additional portable shmup-ing.

EDIT: corrections.
I don't agree, Interstellar Assault is an amazing game, and different from the console games in some important ways, such as how it has the little cutscenes and such. Mercenary Force is interesting though, yeah. It's not the equal of Konami or Irem shmups, but it's worth playing.


Hell I had never heard of Imperium, I just wanted another shooter, found the cart cheap and tested it, turned out to be a shmup so i got it lol. Haven't got around to it much as of late.

Hell the only shooter i ever had for the GBA was Iridion 3d, from what i remember it was alright, never got too deep in that game, i was busy playing Advance Wars, Tactics Advance, Golden Sun (Love em') and such
Iridion 3D's a rail shooter, not a shmup. Iridion II is their shmup for the GB. (Rail shooters are similar to shmups, but aren't quite the same.) Iridion 3D's not the greatest rail shooter, either... though it is probably better than Star-X, that game has nice polygon graphics for the system but terrible controls and mediocre gameplay. Hitting the enemies is tough.

Anyway though, for GBA shmups the ones to look for are Gradius Galaxies, and Iridion II, I'd say, for exclusives. Darius R is okay, but flawed and not as good as those. Sigma Star Saga is a somewhat interesting try at a shmup/RPG; it kind of works, but the shmup aspect's on the bland side. It's worth a try for cheap, perhaps, though. The GBA ports of Steel Empire and Phalanx are solid as well. R-Type III GBA is to be avoided, though; it's a bad port. As I think I said the developers had to make it without any original code, and weren't able to quite get it right. Those are the major ones I think. Yeah, like with most handhelds the GBA's shmup library is thin...


R-Types for the Playstation has something like that too, but its an option you can enable. On my TV, you pretty much have to or its possible for the R9 fighter to go right off the top of the screen, but I've heard there are televisions where you can leave it on no-scrolling mode and still see everything.

In other news, I just scored R-Type Delta from somebody. Once it arrives in the mail, all I'll need is R-Type III and R-Type Final and I'll have at least one version of every R-Type that was ever ported to a home console (I'm just ignoring R-Type Leo until it gets put on physical media of some sort).

Speaking of arcade games: I just got both the Capcom Classics Collections for the PS2, and I was wondering: Is 1942's original music supposed to sound that bad? I had to turn on the remixed music just to make it listenable. Sadly, the 194x series is nowhere near as good as I remembered from the days of my youth.

Right now, my favorite shmups are the Gradius, R-Type and Thunder Force series, at least the installments of each that I've played.
Huh, that's cool that the PSX version has a similar feature as well. Is the zoom similar to the degree of zoom in TG16 R-Type, or is it more or less?

Also, having it be optional is cool. Nice way to do it.

As for my favorite shmups, the Gradius series is my favorite.

[Edmond Dantes]

Huh, that's cool that the PSX version has a similar feature as well. Is the zoom similar to the degree of zoom in TG16 R-Type, or is it more or less?

I wouldn't know. Never played TG16 R-Type.

[thegamezmaster]

Congrats on a great game! Shoot anything that moves! Gotta love it. It's even great on my portable snes!:)

[Edmond Dantes]

So who else finds fighting the Cyst in R-Type DX actually harder than in R-Types?

(Cyst being that heart-thing that the worm keeps coming out of in the second level)